if Sam Strano says It Rocks, then It Rocks! cause when it comes to suspension, Sam Strano is the MAN! ...hes won so flippin many trophies, numerous awards, & has built, designed, & drove more 4th gen f-bodies than anybody else i, & probaly u, know. hes probably forgotten more about f-body suspensions than the rest of us will ever know or learn. & he has his own "mom & pops" (& i say that as a compliment, because as a small buisnessman, i always try to support small buisnesses whenever possible) suspension buisness. & hes a great guy to do buisness with. i discovered him thru the LS1Tech forums & hes a super cool dude & is always willing to help a fellow gearhead! sounds like a great partnership with 2 powerhouses... & on that note, a sincere thanx to sam & umi for all the parts, advice, & help with building my 98 formula!
Everything is rusted to crap on my 4th gen Camaro. I would really like to know how much this whole set costs and if I can do it without modifying cutting the original components that are left behind. Also, does someone have an instructional video on how to install the aetup?
I have your panhard bar,lca's, sfc's and your adjustable torque arm on my 95 Z28 Camaro! It handles much better than stock. Going to get your sway bar kit next. 👍💪💪💪
I just installed panhard bar, LCA and sway bars. Haven't driven it due to work and can't wait too. So I haven't compare before and after yet. Just need SFC and torque arm
im satisfied my 1995 z28 convertible 6speed, which i bought for 8k with 63000 miles, and 5000 into parts LE2 heads and cam and suspension upgrade - so 13k....will keep up with and even out run most cars that can be bought now for 2-3x as much as i have into my camaro....cheaper car maybe....leaves more room in the budget to work up the LT1. only thing out of my reach at 400~hp are the top tier new camaros and mopars. everything else in the line up is fair game. so...i guess it depends on your outlook. pay 35000 for a newer camaro...or 15000 to eat new camaro :)
It’s just shy of 4k, not a bad price at all. You could dump just 8-10k into a 4th gen and make it perform better than a modern day diva muscle car. Then turn around and sell it for 30+K depending on many other factors. But as far as “worth” is considered, you’d make money instead of lose it. Plus, there’s a video of a TA with a setup like this totally dusting a top of line 100+k Porsche in a road race. 😉
Unfortunately, the stock size clamshell motor mounts are resting on the k member gusset on my build. I even got new mounts to avoid the possibility of something like this. Real shame, its a nice piece otherwise. I now have to convince the shop that is helping me with the install that this is something that requires attention. They weren't willing to take my suggestion that we take everything back out and grind something to make these clear, but we have to do something, not real interested in proceeding with this build with metal on metal contact in the motor mounts.
Have you guys considered making new uprights with dual tie rod holes for more steering ackerman / drift capable? Could even incorperate C7 Vette Caliper spacing for 18" and up wheel sizes as an option as well as the stronger Corvette hubs. Ive gone through a few sets of Timken hubs on my 1LE.
@ Thanks for the reply. I never would have thought they would come apart like that. I got adapter plates to mount C5/6 SKF hubs. I did hear about the hoosiers as well as the coleman ones. I dont think the hoosierPE ones are available right now.
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@Camaro Rick...Brad here again I was thinking about you the other day, did my first track day weekend over memorial weekend, before it was over both of the HPE hubs broke, and you are correct they seem to be out of business, just installed the SKF and adaptor setup you spoke of, God I hope this cures this problem, 2,600 bucks into two sets of wheel bearings plus going through two or three sets a year for the last 26 years, tens of thousands of dollars, shit I better stop thinking about this, I'm just glad you didn't get the Hoosiers, good luck, lets hope for the best
@ Sounds like your gonna put them through their paces. Good luck man! Yea I try not to think about that either. If your not breaking stuff your not having enough fun with it! What size tires are you running on the front?
I was just looking on the website and the Corner Max Kit does not list the rear suspension parts as part of its kit. Did you guys change the kit layout?
Hi Michael. Thanks for the question. We don't have a full kit with a single part number but we are happy to build a kit for you. Just hit us at support@umiperformance.com with your request. Include p/n's, color choice, name address phone, etc. and we can hit it pretty close. Also, let us know how you plan to use your car. Thanks!
Umi and BMR k members have a flaw in there design. The middle mounting points are a small tube and the factory hole in the unibody is a big square. There’s no holding force there and the holes line up crooked anyway. Idk why no one mentions this. Try suspension engineering. Much better design. It uses flat stock to mate to the body
@josels1292 I ordered the entire kit and now they are on the car. Had a idiot auto mechanic screw up the installation though! Put my rear swaybar on upside down and didn't tighten one of the front sway bar end links so it fell off somewhere. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
I wish they had a demo video comparing lap times and slalom maneuvering as well as a g force test.
if Sam Strano says It Rocks, then It Rocks! cause when it comes to suspension, Sam Strano is the MAN! ...hes won so flippin many trophies, numerous awards, & has built, designed, & drove more 4th gen f-bodies than anybody else i, & probaly u, know. hes probably forgotten more about f-body suspensions than the rest of us will ever know or learn. & he has his own "mom & pops" (& i say that as a compliment, because as a small buisnessman, i always try to support small buisnesses whenever possible) suspension buisness. & hes a great guy to do buisness with. i discovered him thru the LS1Tech forums & hes a super cool dude & is always willing to help a fellow gearhead! sounds like a great partnership with 2 powerhouses... & on that note, a sincere thanx to sam & umi for all the parts, advice, & help with building my 98 formula!
I absolutely love their products! I cannot wait to get my new torque arm.
Everything is rusted to crap on my 4th gen Camaro. I would really like to know how much this whole set costs and if I can do it without modifying cutting the original components that are left behind.
Also, does someone have an instructional video on how to install the aetup?
Me to
Sams here, but I just looked up f body (insert suspension part) installed and it's pretty straight forward
I have your panhard bar,lca's, sfc's and your adjustable torque arm on my 95 Z28 Camaro! It handles much better than stock. Going to get your sway bar kit next. 👍💪💪💪
I just installed panhard bar, LCA and sway bars. Haven't driven it due to work and can't wait too. So I haven't compare before and after yet. Just need SFC and torque arm
How did it drive?
Hello! Very nice you Camaro! what size tires do you use and what brand are your wheels?
I can only imagine this kit probably costs more than these cars are worth
im satisfied my 1995 z28 convertible 6speed, which i bought for 8k with 63000 miles, and 5000 into parts LE2 heads and cam and suspension upgrade - so 13k....will keep up with and even out run most cars that can be bought now for 2-3x as much as i have into my camaro....cheaper car maybe....leaves more room in the budget to work up the LT1. only thing out of my reach at 400~hp are the top tier new camaros and mopars. everything else in the line up is fair game. so...i guess it depends on your outlook. pay 35000 for a newer camaro...or 15000 to eat new camaro :)
It’s just shy of 4k, not a bad price at all. You could dump just 8-10k into a 4th gen and make it perform better than a modern day diva muscle car. Then turn around and sell it for 30+K depending on many other factors. But as far as “worth” is considered, you’d make money instead of lose it. Plus, there’s a video of a TA with a setup like this totally dusting a top of line 100+k Porsche in a road race. 😉
4th gens go for about 10k now so more like spending 15k and selling it for 15k@@bpebler
Ok
How about sending us this kit for our Lemons/champcar race car? We'll plaster Umi on every inch of the car!
I wish I worked for UMI. I have so many ideas
Stupid ideas
you have install vids
What's the wheel and tire setup on the 4th gen behind you? It looks perfect 👌
Sorry for the delay. 315/30-18 tires on 18x11 wheels. +35mm offset.
Unfortunately, the stock size clamshell motor mounts are resting on the k member gusset on my build. I even got new mounts to avoid the possibility of something like this. Real shame, its a nice piece otherwise. I now have to convince the shop that is helping me with the install that this is something that requires attention. They weren't willing to take my suggestion that we take everything back out and grind something to make these clear, but we have to do something, not real interested in proceeding with this build with metal on metal contact in the motor mounts.
Have you guys considered making new uprights with dual tie rod holes for more steering ackerman / drift capable? Could even incorperate C7 Vette Caliper spacing for 18" and up wheel sizes as an option as well as the stronger Corvette hubs. Ive gone through a few sets of Timken hubs on my 1LE.
@ Thanks for the reply. I never would have thought they would come apart like that. I got adapter plates to mount C5/6 SKF hubs. I did hear about the hoosiers as well as the coleman ones. I dont think the hoosierPE ones are available right now.
@Camaro Rick...Brad here again I was thinking about you the other day, did my first track day weekend over memorial weekend, before it was over both of the HPE hubs broke, and you are correct they seem to be out of business, just installed the SKF and adaptor setup you spoke of, God I hope this cures this problem, 2,600 bucks into two sets of wheel bearings plus going through two or three sets a year for the last 26 years, tens of thousands of dollars, shit I better stop thinking about this, I'm just glad you didn't get the Hoosiers, good luck, lets hope for the best
@ Sounds like your gonna put them through their paces. Good luck man! Yea I try not to think about that either. If your not breaking stuff your not having enough fun with it! What size tires are you running on the front?
Cost more than the cars worth
I think that's kind of the point. why bang up an expensive car drifting when there's thousands of f bodies@@mikecastleberry9671
What size tires are you running on the camaro, and what did you have to do to the front end for the wide tires
The car can fit a 315 In the front with no mods.
...315's?!?!? ...square?!? ...ok...im officially drooling!!!
Website says 98 to 02, does the kit fit 93 to 97 as well ?
Not so good at following instructions are you.
Is the roll cage necessary? Is it possible to substitute it with just a roll bar?
Will the kit work in a drag racing daily driving application
Okay I got a '94 Z28 that I'm using a BMRK member my question is can I use my stock A arms on that tubular BMRK member?
I’m assuming most if not all parts here apply to a 2002 z28 Camaro
I'm looking for a street racing and no-prep setup. 99 f body firebird
Hi MetalWorks. Sorry for the delay. Hit me at ramey at umiperformance dot com and I can work with you on a no prep quote.
Is the box control arm stronger than the tubular design?
I was just looking on the website and the Corner Max Kit does not list the rear suspension parts as part of its kit. Did you guys change the kit layout?
Donate some of them parts and I’ll put a big UMI decal on my WS.6
Right??
Anything for a 3rd gen Camaro?
Looks like a sweet setup!!
Went to your site.....looks like it has to be pieced together....do you have a kit ?
Install videos please.
Is there a such thing as a after market angle kit for f body’s ?
Hi Austin. For drifting you mean? If so, maybe but we don't make one yet.
Is their a kit for the 3rd camaro?
Hi Michael. Thanks for the question. We don't have a full kit with a single part number but we are happy to build a kit for you. Just hit us at support@umiperformance.com with your request. Include p/n's, color choice, name address phone, etc. and we can hit it pretty close. Also, let us know how you plan to use your car. Thanks!
Umi and BMR k members have a flaw in there design. The middle mounting points are a small tube and the factory hole in the unibody is a big square. There’s no holding force there and the holes line up crooked anyway. Idk why no one mentions this. Try suspension engineering. Much better design. It uses flat stock to mate to the body
What rims were those in the video?
Forgestar F14 18 x 11. Not sure of backspace. We buy them from stranoparts dot com
How much for the full kit
Hi Sawyer. Email sales@umiperformance.com for a quote and links.
I ordered your front sway bar kit for my 95 Z28 Camaro from Summit Racing. I heard you were way behind on your orders. 😐
Did you get them or still waiting?
@josels1292 I ordered the entire kit and now they are on the car. Had a idiot auto mechanic screw up the installation though! Put my rear swaybar on upside down and didn't tighten one of the front sway bar end links so it fell off somewhere. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Will it work on a 94 convertible?
Yessir. Give us a shout at support@umiperformance.com to order or get tech info.
G numbers??
We've seen 1.5 on telemetry but haven't really published numbers as there are so many variables.
Over $3,000 for this system wow
This kit is over $3000 ?
Most of these cars arent worth 3000 with a built motor. Just get the 150 dollar rear control arms and panhard bar like me haha.
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Great video! I'm seriously looking into this kit for my fbody! Subscribed! Check me out!
Drop the music in the background. Annoying. Good info on suspension.
Would like to hear you talk not music noise.
We are working on improving future videos. Thanks for the feedback.
nice set up.to bad you ruined that SS without modern dogshit wheels and headlights housings
Lose the music, it's annoying AF.