BMW i5 M60 range test
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8:50 exactly my thought. For the i4, this battery size is okay but i5 should at least have an option for a 95-100 kWh battery. But maybe a battery this big just would not fit in the ICE based plattform.
I think i5 eDrive40 would cost and have similar range as i4. No point having M60 with huge wheels hippo
And i7 should have 120 kWh for ultra luxury sedan with 5,40 meters length
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05:40 Around 1980, a German magazine published the advice of a rally driver to mark the center of the steering wheel. This should help to keep track of which position the steering wheel is in when drifting. I always did this with my first 2 cars until 1988. Yellow though.
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6:25 one of few cars that don't try to kill you if you have a seizure while driving.
Will be interesting to see who actually ends up buying them.
This would have been a great entry-level battery as I agree some people will just want the BMW badge and excellent comfort, but a 100 kWh pack should have been offered as an option.
Problem is it already weighs 2500kg, how much heavier with a bigger battery?
kWh per hour is the most powerful unit.
Yeah and
kwh^2/h^2 is more time consuming 😂
When you get out and in the i5 you feel like in a SUV. The car is much higher than the i4, so air resistance is naturally higher. Therefore I am very happy choosing a i4 M50 and not the i5 M60. As well the trunk is not bigger but accessibility is worse.
The i5 is very low compared to the i7. Our i7 xDrive60 returns around 2.9mi/kWh at 75-80mph. Oddly enough it’s more efficient at highway speed than in city driving.
Do you have to take the car in order to get the B&W!
It’s definitely insane the i4 had a slightly higher energy capacity than the i5. I don’t know what bmw is thinking putting such a tiny battery pack in a car this expensive. Mercedes just increased the size of the EQE RWD models to around 96kWh. That’s what size the i5 should have too. The i7 should also have about 10-15kWh more capacity as Mercedes just upped the usable capacity of the EQS/EQS SUV to around 117kWh. I was hoping when the i5 Touring launched it would bring a more energy dense pack and we would see an improved pack one year into production on the sedan, but it didn’t happen. Maybe when the LCI launches they’ll go up size, but for such an expensive car to have basically the same size battery pack as a Kia EV6 is really disappointing. Especially when it doesn’t have charging speeds nearly as fast as the much less expensive Korean e-GMP models.
As far as BMWs are concerned, the test of the i5 edrive40 and the i4 edrive35 is missing.
I’m here waiting for the ads to end.
140.000€ and not even 300km at 120? That is crazy… i don’t see this selling very well
Remember that it’s winter
@@hermanstaavi7077also there it's bad
Unusable.
168 miles range and then you charge at 10% and stop at 80% giving a usable range of 117!
Then stop at uk service station with a 22kw charger 😂
But its German Premium 😮
Wtf 140k? I4 is 70k. Think you confused with i7. Also this is Winter and wet road. Heating up the cabine was included and it was only a short route.
Seems like Merc's EQE AMG is coming on top. Bigger battery and better fuel consumption even with wider tyres (own experience- own it since July and driven 37k km).
Also the suspension on the EQE is unreal (don't know about the i5).
In the current auto motor sport they testet the i5 eDrive40 against the EQE 350 with range of eco/test range 443km/328km (BMW) vs 486km/354km (Merc). But the battery of the Merc is ~8 kWh larger along with a slightly higher average consumption of 28,2 kWh/100km (vs. BMW 27,7).
A shame it looks how it looks.. and BMW will sell more than Mercedes
@Twin.motors it looks " different ". Normal version is not exactly a looker, but actual AMG improves the stance on the road a lot. i5 is having difficulty with the overhangs and hiding the mass (my opinion). Don't thing it will sell well, full of compromises , not ground up EV platform. What will sell will be petrol and diesel.
In 2025 the EQE will receive a major update (MoPf). There is then a new drive unit (eATS 2.0, with 800V, 2-speed gearbox, SiC inverter, etc.).
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I4 xdrive40 18” wheels video please
Thank you :)
Bjørn - why don't you test the i5 40 (in Denmark it's NOK 750.000 cheaper than the M60) and therefor in my oppinion more relevant for a lager number of people. .
M60 is a nonsense, eDrive40 will give you the same comfort, descent performance and great range
Probably because we love AWD in Norway. Just look at this winter we have had and you will understand haha
I do not see any problem with this car except for the price.
eDrive40 cost properly. M60 makes no sense, 20" wheels also make no sense for EV
Which is a big problem!
Packaging is atrocious, someone could chop half a meter off it, make the boot twice as big and add 20 cm to rear passenger leg room without any issues if they had designed it properly.
As an iX M60 driver my first thought on this car was the battery size. I’ve had mine for 18 months and it’s definitely more efficient charging to 80%, and you’re going to lose anything up to 30% in winter. I can expect to get 250 miles in winter, 350 in summer. But I couldn’t live with this, going to struggle to give you 200 miles of range for 100k. I don’t get why BMW have electrified the 5 series at all.
Simple answer, at least for the German market: Many companies are on a transition to an all electric car fleet. The BMW 5 series sells (in Germany) mostly to businesses and only a little bit to private owners. So BMW needs a car to compete with Mercedes EQE in this segment to sell / leasing as company car.
I will get my new i5 edrive 40 in March 😀(company car)
@@janopitz2610 still, why not add 20 kwh to the battery, it would cost like 2k extra
Gonna need a bigger battery!
Better efficiency would be more preferable
Question about the woofer. Is in the back of this BMW or in the center and makes such it a difference in the experience of the acoustic.
surely it is either in the right wall of the trunk or under the seats like in a typical bmw fashion
Thanks! But why 10/10 ?
10/10 is the Sound System
So you click and comment about it… They have to play the RUclips game
Weight?
0,19 EUR at Inonity, lol. Its 0,65 EUR in my country, what a shame. :-)
Comfort is king, most people will only use it within it's range.
All people will spend more time charging this thing compared to better range cars. Thats less comfortable
@@ARPost-kn2jl looks like you don't know what the word "comfort" means, try google.
@@R3dL4x google "flop"
@@ARPost-kn2jlthe people who buy this car will know what distances they usually drive in one day and when to use the plane instead. For them the comfort is defined in perfect auto pilot system such as handsfree driving at 130 km/h. But yes 100 kWh battery would have been appropriate.
I own the car and it’s great. I live is the south east and have taken it on a few road trips,not this winter but it does great for me. I’m retired and don’t have the daily commute. I choose comfort.
Björn - if you don’t drive with the assistant on - drive in „adaptive“, not B or with high regen. Will give you better range. At least in my i4 it’s like that.
I don't like adaptive regen.
How would regen change anything in a test run at constant velocity?
@@TschingisTubeas I wrote. If you don’t have the assistants on. And I bet the autopilot is not on the whole time.
@@bjornnylandI also don’t like the dentist but sometimes I have to go and see him :-)
@@Beamer_i4_M50 From what i see, Bjorn is always driving with cruise control if the car has any. Who would drive 90 km/h over a long periode without cruise control?
Color. Brooklyn gray?
How can it have the same consumption as the iX, I don’t get it. Newer, smaller car, sedan vs SUV and yet still even worse consumption while doing 90km/h
Ix ground up ev, i5 converted fosil car might have something to do with it.
@@danielstefanovic2604 I have done a lot of kilometers in the iX xDrive50 and I love the car. You can see that it also doesnt look like 100% ev only platform. My theory is that it was supposed to be a hybrid before they thought about the XM. It has a huge bonet under which you could easily put a V8 and something that looks like a spot for exhaust tips in the back. But thats not important, the main thing is that the i5 sucks, unfortunately. i4 M50 is much better and cheaper at the same time…
20 inch wheels and useless high power
03:07 - The Reset procedure is tailored to suit BMW drivers and it complements the lane changing signalling: no shiieeet given.
I don’t know why, your voice in this video sounds like it was 6-7 years ago
So 10/10 but the car limits the fast charging after a road trip ?
I supercharged multiple times per day for a week while on a EU road trip and it never slowed down. BMW has some work to do...
10/10 that you didn't watch the video.
@@bjornnyland I did. There's another 20 people that said the same thing and you keep giving this childish reply 😂
@@Twin.motors 10/10 for the sound system.
@@Twin.motors How to say you didn't watch the video without saying you didn't watch the video....
Seems like theres no reason to get the i5 instead of the i4? I4 looks better in and out aswell IMO. Same range at lower price
As long as you not have kids or passengers. Ever. i4 is amazing, but its a car for two persons.
@@mjaoooooooo100% agree, and I love the look of the i5, but yes they should have given him a 100 kWh battery.
I own i4, 2 adults sit perfectly on the rear sit for long distance. 3rd is impossible. I think i5 makes sense only in eDrive40 version. Price & close will be close to i4, but it's slightly more spacious.
i4 has very big trunk, I travelled >1000km with 3 adults and kid. Everyone was comfortable. I have 8k km on odo, and 6k out of those are roadtrips around Europe with my kid, wife, amd sometimes my mom. i4 is perfect for a family of 4.
@@kirilldrozdov6550there's people that do 3000km road trips in Dacia Springs, people these days are too spoiled to say silly things like "i4 is too small "
Manufacturers need to focus on E F F I C I E N C Y
The BMW i5 is a drivers car, the Tesla Model S is an appliance, at best.
0:35 first issue already. ”I have to start the car”.
Wouldnt be surprised if BMW BEV comes with clutch, fuel cap and transmission tunnel for the driveshaft😂
Also isn’t energy effifiency somwhere near the levels of Optimus Prime?
10/15
Its a shower, not a go-er :)
The problem is drag coefficient?
Drag coefficient is 0.22-0.23. That's quite low.
www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/i5
DeBMW eigenaar die wel range wil moet kiezen voor de i5 m40 zonder sportpakket en de standaard bumper en 19 inch wielen.
Daar kom je verder mee en vlot genoeg!
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Dutch.
@@bjornnyland The BMW driver who wants range goes for the I5 m40 without sport package and sport bumper ( looks bether ). standard with 19 inch wheels.
Fast enough.
That will take you much further!
Hmmm driving 90 km/h I get 300 km out of my Ioniq 38kw at this time of year, so 350 on such an expensive car is not impressive.
I agree it should have bigger battery.
*38 kWh
per hour 😁@@bjornnyland
tbh I'm nearly getting 300km at a constant 90km/h out of my i3 :) You can buy 3 of those for an i5, and the trunk fits a baby stoller nicely.
Does anybody have a reason for the speedo being 3km/h off? Which makes the distance traveled inaccurate as well? Especially over a long time (8 years) this can have a big impact on the overall mileage/distance traveled
Common across car industry.
@@bjornnylandas far as I know Tesla has the real GPS speed displayed on the screen
@@Twin.motors No it doesn't. And it's not allowed either.
Yes, because whatever the speedo displays must never be lower than the actual speed, independent of wheel size, tyre age & pressure etc. So manufacturers opt to display a bit more than actually measured. Also this does NOT apply to the odometer which is usually way more precise.
@@jadziadax8658 i mean I literally tested this against a Dragy specialized GPS tool and it's 100% accurate, maybe something changed recently ? It makes no logical sense for accuracy to be "illegal" but being off by a few kmh to be legal
Why costs so much more than i4? How do they justify it and same battery? Surely as larger, more room for 90-100kwh battery…
Is bmw not really wanting to sell many? 🤔🤔
The i5 starts at 70k Euro. So not much difference to i4
@@coolfreund7455 but this one is 130k€ and i4 M50 is around 60-70k€…. So a bit different.
I don't like this consumption test where you take the consumption from the BC. It's just not accurate. I've had the experience that my tesla underreports, especially when calculating over a long period. Renault Zoe is the opposite, when I leave the car and come back later and the car dropped a few %, the consumption increased 😅
Not everyone is cheating like Tesla.
Incorrect. Common misconception that Tesla is misreporting. I have measured 999 times that Tesla is showing correct consumption. The problem is that Tesla is so efficient so people need to make up false claims that Tesla underreports.
@@bjornnyland well this time your statement is incorrect. Look at B.E.N. i4 test, comparing i4 and model 3 consumption on BC and what was taken by the charging station. The difference charging station vs BC was much bigger for the model 3. Also I have made my own experience with model 3 SR+. When I drove very less and always short routes, the consumption on BC just did not match to the drop of SOC. I even had difference with factor 3.
The BC will typically not include charging losses and other energy used during charging. That's for my Ioniq 5 around 10 % difference.
@@RacingDuck but all that counts too
Common buying an EV different than Tesla now days does not really make sense... My tesla model S Plaid is giving 17-18 kw/100km at the same condition you have tested that bmw with 29/100km .... this is crazy...
*170-180 Wh/km
140t€, who cares, lovely car
my BMW 520d gets over 1000km range
battery too small
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Going on a vacation for 1000 km and having to fully charge 3 times? It looks like -1 day of vacation to sleepover.
How much time do you save with your EV in winter?
really? I though the target sales audience of such cars would rather fly in a business class and rent another ev toy at the destination airport
This charge would take 20 minutes, so around 1 hr of charging time
Just using the electric car as a company car saves me around 1 full working days per year that I would otherwise spend refueling - always leaving the company with a full battery.
If I'm on a 1000km holiday trip, I like to take a short coffee break every 2 to 3 hours of travel time - I then arrive at the holiday destination relaxed and don't have to queue at a crowded petrol station, but can always start from the apartment/hotel with a full battery .
But yes, if you want to spend 1000km continuously behind the wheel, go ahead.
Prefer a Kia ev9 to this, half the price twice the car
A great car in terms of size and value for money, but does not seem comparable in terms of interior quality. Bjorn's video shows a lot of cheap plastic in it including the ridiculous load hooks that wouldn't be out of place in a $10k car. I will have to go and test drive one soon to get a better idea
So Harry's Garrage rates this car badly as he very rarely does yet you do 10/10 :D I wonder who is lying?....
I recommend to actually watch the video. The answer to your questions is obvious…
I don't get the 10/10 either since it did quite bad in the 1000km test even compared to cars 3x cheaper
10/10 for the audio system. Harry didn't test the audio system. Harry mostly tests drive quality over small roads, not range tests on the highway.
burmester go home lmao
Range doesn’t look like 10/10 at all. I would say 7/10 for such price
It doesn't look like you watched the video.
I did. Is this video about range or overall impression about the car? 😉 In title I see ”range topic“ and 10/10 picture. Of course I assume that this score will be related about the range…
@@Kalvarijathe sound system
I find this car unappealing at every level
eDrive40 should make more sense for people
Another Legacy price gouge which under delivers
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