The league runs through Joe Cronin. Made the trade that sparked the new CBA so small markets like Portland have a better chance. Trades with Boston to put them over the top for a championship, trades Lillard to potentially NBA Cup winner. And it all started with a little Blevins 10-day contract.
DA would actually be a good candidate for the Pelicans and the Hawks. We're not getting picks back, but we could get expiring money and/or good players back. And I think that's worth it
I'm not sure Portland gets a lot of trades done. The players contracts probably outweigh their value unless the asking price makes it worth it. I think they hold onto their guys until the contracts are closer to expiring.
Another one for the algorithm - the contracts of DA and Ant are actually very tradable. Ending in next season. A lot of teams would love a $30M~ written off their books next summer, so I don't think it will be that much of an issue to find buyers. The question is - what do you get in return? The likely answer - not much, and you probably have to take some longer contracts, otherwise the other team wouldn't want to pull the trigger.
They waited to long, waited for value to plummet on vets and for CBA to change. Thats their MO so far wait for value to decrease then wait a little linger then pull trigger.
at least the other bottom teams can get better yall are just cursed with bad owners' bad management bad players that don't want to be there can you blame them free Deni Clingen and walker they deserve better than yall. they should have refused to go there.
It seems to me, it wouldn't be terrible to just let Ayton run out his contract with the Blazers. I believe he is in is second to last year. In the meantime, the Blazers are obviously going nowhere remotely close to a challenging for any championship, yet they need a roster with at least a few veterans.
i am all in on the tank. I am not impressed at all with the lack of discipline the Blazers play with. They sometimes look like a Y ball team with turnovers, lazy passes, Terrible inbound plays. Those reflect the coach mostly. Not sure CB is the best coach for a young squad. I like CB just not seeing much coaching evolution, then again this team is so young. I still really enjoy watching the kids grow and I hope CB can get an assistant like Bill Musselman. CB needs help. I hope to see some trades soon. I feel ANT/Ayton/ need to go and we need to let Clingan and Scoot figure it out. Sadly I think Grant and Timelord will be what gets traded. Not sure where Ant fits in and dont see us getting much back. JG was born in Portland. I refuse to eat our young :)
I would like to see us trade timelord and tisse for brook lopez. Get an expiring stretch 5 that can defend and teach clingan and give more depth for the bucks in the short term
He is VERY hesitant to adopt the "addition by subtraction" philosophy. Sometimes, getting rid of a player wins you the trade without much coming back in return.
incentives are so distorted nowadays in the NBA. teams trying to lose, the all-star is an insult to audiences, the trading has become a more interesting game than what actually happens on court. the NBA needs some serious reforming. how about making the all-star mean something by having the winning conference get home court advantage in the NBA final? how about turning the CBA into a lower league, like they have in Europe, where the last team in the NBA goes down to the CBA, and the winner of the CBA moves up to the NBA? would teams still try to tank then?
No, that's dumb: the all-star game is and always has been a meaningless exhibition. And promotion/relegation is a non-starter because the existing teams would not want to lose tons of money.
What do you think about ayton and grant for zion and either moving ingram to somewhere else or trade/keep him after. Not sure what else would be moved alongside it
I totally see this happening, the worst part is Zion would be amazing for a short time, the city would get excited about the future, then he would have a career ending injury, and we would continue the “curse”
Deni walk in tomorrow tell them to kick rocks that there is zero chance you will resign and will hold out for trade and go home until they free you, you overpaid for him it's just karma for ruining Deni's career by treading for him that was just cruel.
you should talk on the podcast more about how duop reath is being held back by chauncey (commenting for algorithm purposes)
The league runs through Joe Cronin. Made the trade that sparked the new CBA so small markets like Portland have a better chance. Trades with Boston to put them over the top for a championship, trades Lillard to potentially NBA Cup winner. And it all started with a little Blevins 10-day contract.
Great episode sir!
Blazers coach and team deserve respect.
I always liked Norman Powell's game.
Was underrated since his days in Toronto, and usually played in teams that had a stacked backcourt.
I always thought dame and norm was the combo to keep. Norm reminded me of Wes.
Tankathon race heating up. Wizards doing it the best.
DA would actually be a good candidate for the Pelicans and the Hawks. We're not getting picks back, but we could get expiring money and/or good players back. And I think that's worth it
I'm not sure Portland gets a lot of trades done. The players contracts probably outweigh their value unless the asking price makes it worth it. I think they hold onto their guys until the contracts are closer to expiring.
Another one for the algorithm - the contracts of DA and Ant are actually very tradable.
Ending in next season. A lot of teams would love a $30M~ written off their books next summer, so I don't think it will be that much of an issue to find buyers.
The question is - what do you get in return?
The likely answer - not much, and you probably have to take some longer contracts, otherwise the other team wouldn't want to pull the trigger.
Neither Simons nor Grant are having their finest seasons which kind of sucks for their trade value.
Stormin Normin!
Cronin first year was genuinely one of the worst gm performances I’ve ever witnessed. Add the Josh Knicks trade in there too I had no hope
The Hart trade was pretty good. A first round pick for a pending free agent is solid business.
@ then you go and pick Kris Murray? Gimme Josh hart back
For sure. But that’s not the trade. That’s a mistake several months later.
They waited to long, waited for value to plummet on vets and for CBA to change. Thats their MO so far wait for value to decrease then wait a little linger then pull trigger.
at least the other bottom teams can get better yall are just cursed with bad owners' bad management bad players that don't want to be there can you blame them free Deni Clingen and walker they deserve better than yall. they should have refused to go there.
It seems to me, it wouldn't be terrible to just let Ayton run out his contract with the Blazers. I believe he is in is second to last year. In the meantime, the Blazers are obviously going nowhere remotely close to a challenging for any championship, yet they need a roster with at least a few veterans.
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Shouldn't Balmer/Clips get some of the heat?
If I did not know better, I might have guessed that this was a Locked on Nets segment.
Norm!!!!
i am all in on the tank. I am not impressed at all with the lack of discipline the Blazers play with. They sometimes look like a Y ball team with turnovers, lazy passes, Terrible inbound plays. Those reflect the coach mostly. Not sure CB is the best coach for a young squad. I like CB just not seeing much coaching evolution, then again this team is so young. I still really enjoy watching the kids grow and I hope CB can get an assistant like Bill Musselman. CB needs help. I hope to see some trades soon. I feel ANT/Ayton/ need to go and we need to let Clingan and Scoot figure it out. Sadly I think Grant and Timelord will be what gets traded. Not sure where Ant fits in and dont see us getting much back. JG was born in Portland. I refuse to eat our young :)
I would like to see us trade timelord and tisse for brook lopez. Get an expiring stretch 5 that can defend and teach clingan and give more depth for the bucks in the short term
Id rather keep timelord he is a better player now when on the court.
Bucks really need Brook for their offense to function. A floor spacing big is excellent with Giannis.
I unfortunately do not expect the Blazers to make any moves. Think Cronin is really overvaluing some of our guys. Their contracts are negatives
He is VERY hesitant to adopt the "addition by subtraction" philosophy. Sometimes, getting rid of a player wins you the trade without much coming back in return.
incentives are so distorted nowadays in the NBA. teams trying to lose, the all-star is an insult to audiences, the trading has become a more interesting game than what actually happens on court. the NBA needs some serious reforming.
how about making the all-star mean something by having the winning conference get home court advantage in the NBA final? how about turning the CBA into a lower league, like they have in Europe, where the last team in the NBA goes down to the CBA, and the winner of the CBA moves up to the NBA? would teams still try to tank then?
No, that's dumb: the all-star game is and always has been a meaningless exhibition.
And promotion/relegation is a non-starter because the existing teams would not want to lose tons of money.
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What do you think about ayton and grant for zion and either moving ingram to somewhere else or trade/keep him after. Not sure what else would be moved alongside it
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That trade was genuinely horrible I thought Joe Cronin was special
Ant and DA for Zion. Make it happen.
Just so we could waive him?
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So he could sit on the bench 1/2 the season injured?
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That's what DA does... At least Zion is good when he plays.
I totally see this happening, the worst part is Zion would be amazing for a short time, the city would get excited about the future, then he would have a career ending injury, and we would continue the “curse”
@@modax040 million in expiring? I mean, that's not necessarily a bad thing in this CBA.
Deni walk in tomorrow tell them to kick rocks that there is zero chance you will resign and will hold out for trade and go home until they free you, you overpaid for him it's just karma for ruining Deni's career by treading for him that was just cruel.
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