I live for listening to these podcasts while eating lunch every day. Steak and eggs just taste so much better while digging into the minutiae of human physiology with Paul.
Another thoroughly enjoyable and informative discussion. The link between insulin resistance and inflammation was really interesting as was the sodium/potassium ratio. Great job. 5 stars!
Protein does age people. I’ve been following a carnivore diet for about half a year thanks for all the information provided by Dr. Saladino. I noticed that when my daily protein intake was around 1g/pound, my period came in 22-23 days, which was much faster than my prior carnivore years. Then later I controlled my protein intake around 0.7g/kg of lean body mass, which for me was about 30g per day, then my period came every 30+ days. I am now carnivore+OMAD with satisfactory period intervals.
I was puzzled why my period shortened to 24 days from regular 28 days. My protein intake has been 120 g a day, which is 1 g per pound of lean weight. I will be reducing it to see, if that is the reason for a shorter period. Thanks so much, Yati Li.
Nduder During adulthood, you want to grow as slow as possible for longevity concern. 22 days is too fast and not healthy taking into account I also water fast 6-8 days every month, too much nutrient, too much mTOR activation, therefore increased cancer risk. Dr. Ron Rosedale explained this point very well.
My 68 year old father went carnivore-ish and "inappropriately cured his type 2 diabetes" 😜 thanks in large part to RUclipsrs such as yourself ❤️💕. I was able to reassure my parents that this was a legitimate option and pass on shows and information. His doctor told him he is no longer diabetic 😒 (fortunately my father realizes type 2 is a lifestyle disease), but now is trying to put him on statins. I would love to hear more about the type 2 healing process as he still has quite a belly and wakes with blood glucose of just over 100. I will have to listen to this one again so I can send him notes 💚
I believe it was Gabrielle Lyon, in an interview with Mike Mutzel, who said she likes her clients to get about 30 grams of protein per meal (based on 3 meals a day, if I recall), in order to maximize the absorption of the nutrients you guys are talking about, around minute 35.
Re: coffee, i agree with Tommy when it comes to taste as i can taste the paper in coffee filters and tea bags too, so i go stainless steel and loose leaf, i would be interested to know about the acrylamide levels as i once heard that the darker roasts burn it off more, please Paul do a Coffee episode!
Tommy is spot on regarding metabolic flexibility. Fully fat adapted for long periods can be fixed in a couple days if a person wants to consume carbs for whatever reason. This is verbatim the position Benjamin Bikman writes about in his book. Maybe some of the dunderheads bashing low carb eating will eventually learn we don't need to cycle on and off low carb to be metabolically flexible.
I don't see the point of cycling (unless it means biking)..I just adjust the fat to protein ratio. Have a bit more protein when the self torture with weight training is heavy. Consuming even just a little carbs for me would mean EAT ALL DAY. No thanks.
@@krisztinaschneider2561 I can relate to "consuming a little carbs means eat all day"! That's crazy! The trouble is when you're socialising, it's very hard to find carnivore friendly meals when eating out.
I must be too tired as this is my first off-topic comment. Well not this... Love Paul's video podcasts, but the following... I am mesmerized by the optic phenomenon starting 00:18:00 and extending to 01:10:00 at the wall behind Tommy
Do anyone have a link to "1:06:44 The bagel study" or a way to get acces to it, I dont mind buying it from publisher if required, or just the real name of the study/research paper ?
CSO-Chief Snake Officer. That’s a good one! Thanks for the in-depth discussion of glucose sparing insulin resistance in low carb eaters. I’ve been on keto, trending carnivore, since 2017 and have wondered what is happening with my glucose tolerance. I may start a honey experiment of my own, but would love to do a full Kraft Test beforehand.
hahahahahahahaha..... LOVE “COFFEE” I drink only about 8 cups a day now but have drank up to 2 pots a day since 16 years old so thats like 50 years now! I feel great and pass my annual physical with no issues now that I have gone Carnivore.
UC-sufferer here, and coffee is definitely is a bad idea for me. Triggers the auto-immunity and causes delayed flare ups. Funny thing is, the longer Im carnivore, the more sensitive I get.
So what they’re talking about around 40mins - if you add fat to a high carb diet you will store the fat whereas to that point on just a high carb diet you burn off the carbs - what sort of carbs and what sort of fat are we talking about here?
I honestly find it difficult to put on a lot of muscle on carnivore, but I'm way more ripped and lean. When I had a high carb garbage diet and drank sugary protein shakes and protein bars I put on muscle easily, but I also put on fat. They say you can pick just two of three: Big, lean, natural. I'd rather have a 6 pack and look dyel in a tshirt than have a beer belly and look swole in a tshirt.
Once again, I seem to be picking confusion here? ketogenic doesn't necessarily mean going with a high animal fat intake as I understand it. It is simply a low carb diet with a high good-fat component. You can have a plant-based keto diet (refer Dr David Jockers) with MCT, avocados or olive oil for example. Given that is the case, I can see an overlap with Dr Michael Gregor's studies. I'm not Vegan by the way lol
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_E#Recommendations "The U.S. Institute of Medicine (renamed National Academy of Medicine in 2015) updated Estimated Average Requirements (EARs) and Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) for vitamin E in 2000.[2] The EAR for vitamin E for women and men ages 14 and up is 12 mg/day. The RDA is 15 mg/day." www.whiteoakpastures.com/Images/nutritional-facts-about-grass-fed-beef.pdf "The current recommended intake of vitamin E is 22 IU (natural source) or 33 IU (synthetic source) for men and women (National Institute of Health Clinical Center, 2002) is necessary for biological activity. The amount of natural alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) found in beef raised on a concentrate-based diet is 3.7 μg/gram of tissue, where as the amount of vitamin E in beef raised on a grass-based diet is 9.3 μg/gram, there is a approximately a three fold increase over conventional beef. A 100 gram serving (approximately 3.5 oz.) would yield 930 μg of vitamin E, about 7% of the daily dietary requirement for this nutrient. Resource: www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/health-benefits/ben-vita-e.html" 3.5 oz x 9.143 = 32 oz or 2 lbs of beef, so 930 μg Vitamin E/100 g beef x 9.143 = 8503 μg or 8.5 mg in 2 lbs of beef. We'll go back to this. ___ naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/41808/PDF page 6: Vitamin E in one pastured egg yolk is 1.1-1.3 IU depending on the pasture plant ___ ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminE-HealthProfessional/#h2 "To convert from mg to IU: 1 mg of alpha-tocopherol is equivalent to 1.49 IU of the natural form or 2.22 IU of the synthetic form. To convert from IU to mg: 1 IU of the natural form is equivalent to 0.67 mg of alpha-tocopherol. 1 IU of the synthetic form is equivalent to 0.45 mg of alpha-tocopherol." ___ So 1.1-1.3 IU is 0.737-0.871 mg in each pastured egg yolk. That's 2.9-3.5 mg or 4.4-5.2 IU in four yolks. Back to the Vitamin E in beef: 8.5 mg per 2 lbs of grass fed beef x 1.49 IU/mg = 12.67 IU in 2 lbs of grass fed beef, 6.34 IU or 4.25 mg in 1 lb. Remember "the Estimated Average Requirement for vitamin E for women and men ages 14 and up is 12 mg/day. The RDA is 15 mg/day." And the National Institute of Health Clinical Center's "recommended intake of vitamin E is 22 IU (natural source) or 33 IU (synthetic source) for men and women." The RDA of 15 mg is equal to 22.35 IU. Compare that to one avocado containing 4.16 milligrams of alpha-tocopherol according to the USDA. (fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/171705/nutrients) ___ Vitamin E is often found in high amounts in plants that have lots of unsaturated fats, like avocado. Vitamin E protects lipids from peroxidation. I think the plants use it for that too. Avocado is a fruit, and going by the logic of what plants want you to eat of them, it could be an ok addition to a carnivore diet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_peroxidation "Lipid peroxidation is the oxidative degradation of lipids. It is the process in which free radicals "steal" electrons from the lipids in cell membranes, resulting in cell damage. This process proceeds by a free radical chain reaction mechanism. It most often affects polyunsaturated fatty acids, because they contain multiple double bonds in between which lie methylene bridges (-CH2-) that possess especially reactive hydrogen atoms...The chemical products of this oxidation are known as lipid peroxides or lipid oxidation products (LOPs)." www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.atv.15.3.325 "Vitamin E is a potent lipid-soluble antioxidant that has been shown to be the major oxidation chain reaction-breaking compound in membranes [30] and an important factor in the protection of polyunsaturated fatty acids in LDL against lipid peroxidation." ___ So 4 avocados would give 1 mg more than the RDA, 16 pastured egg yolks would give 1 mg less than the RDA, 2 lbs of grass fed beef gives 2 or 3 mg less than the RDA. Assuming the RDA is accurate, 2 lbs of grass fed beef and a few egg yolks would be enough. There's also the possibility that maybe the combination of a relatively low ratio of unsaturated:saturated fats in a carnivore diet compared to a diet with more vegetable fats like what the RDA needs might have been calculated in context of, and/or other things about a carnivore diet that can decrease lipid peroxidation in a person would make for less Vitamin E needed. Judging the adequacy of Vitamin E in a carnivore diet based on the RDA for Vitamin E might be a similar situation to judging the adequacy of Vitamin C on a carnivore diet based on the RDA that was calculated in context of metabolisms affected by mixed diets. Amber O'Hearn's writing about Vitamin C needs in metabolic context of a carnivore diet: www.empiri.ca/2017/02/c-is-for-carnivore.html nutrita.app/article/vitamin-c-on-keto ___ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_E#Recommendations "The U.S. Institute of Medicine (renamed National Academy of Medicine in 2015) updated Estimated Average Requirements (EARs) and Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) for vitamin E in 2000.[2] The EAR for vitamin E for women and men ages 14 and up is 12 mg/day. The RDA is 15 mg/day. RDAs are higher than EARs so as to identify amounts that will cover people with higher than average requirements. For infants up to 12 months the Adequate Intake (AI) is 4-5 mg/day... The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) refers to the collective set of information as Dietary Reference Values, with Population Reference Intake (PRI) instead of RDA, and Average Requirement instead of EAR. AI and UL are defined the same as in United States. For women and men ages 10 and older the PRIs are set at 11 and 13 mg/day, respectively. PRI for pregnancy is 11 mg/day, for lactation 11 mg/day. For children ages 1-9 years the PRIs increase with age from 6 to 9 mg/day. These PRIs are lower than the U.S. RDAs.[28]... The Japan National Institute of Health and Nutrition set lower AIs than the U.S. RDAs or EU PRIs, and intermediate ULs: 6.5 mg/day (females) and 7.0 mg/day (males) for adult AIs[29]... India recommends an intake of 8-10 mg/day..." So without researching it more, I don't know how the recommended amounts were decided on. If it was in context of a mixed diet then maybe that made more Vitamin E needed. ___ If you do want to get more than the RDA of Vitamin E while eating a mostly carnivore diet, red palm oil has a lot of Vitamin E and costs about $10 a pound. Like avocado, it's made from fruit - palm fruit - so maybe the plants aren't attacking us for eating it. apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/APJCN/12/3/355.pdf Red palm oil has 500-800 mg/kg or 227-363 mg/lb total alpha-tocopherol, alpha-tocotrienol, gamma-tocotrienol and delta-tocotrienol. One tablespoon is 1/2 an ounce, so in two tablespoons would be about 14-22 mg or 21-32 IU Vitamin E. The fatty acid composition is 0.8% 14:0 myristic acid, 42% 16:0 palmitic, 5.1% 18:0 stearic, 42% 18:1 oleic, 10% 18:2 linoleic. The 0s in the ratios mean unsaturated, the 1 in oleic means monounsatured. (www.aocs.org/stay-informed/inform-magazine/featured-articles/red-palm-oil-february-2017?SSO=True) www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3065441/ "As the most bioavailable of all natural vitamin E isomers and with a well-characterized and selective transport mechanism in mammals, the vast majority of vitamin E research conducted to date has focused on α-tocopherol (αTOC). It is estimated that only 1% of all vitamin E literature and research during the last 30 years addresses tocotrienols [11]. Consequently, a striking asymmetry exists in characterizing the biological significance of non-αTOC family members to the degree that αTOC and vitamin E are often used synonymously. Recent evidence supports unique biological functions of the lesser-characterized natural vitamin E homologues in mammalian tissue... Members of the tocotrienol family, known to be enriched in palm oil, also possess biological functions that are not shared by αTOC. Micromolar amounts of tocotrienol suppress the activity of 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG-CoA) reductase, the hepatic enzyme responsible for cholesterol synthesis [31,32]. HMG-CoA reductase is the same enzyme targeted by the statin class of drugs, one of the most widely prescribed group of drugs in the United States today [33]. Furthermore, tocotrienols, but not tocopherols, have been shown to suppress growth of human breast cancer cells [34]. Finally, dietary supplementation of the α-tocotrienol (αTCT) isoform uniquely protects against acute ischemic stroke injury in vivo [35]. At a nanomolar concentration range achievable by dietary supplementation, αTCT derived from palm oil prevents inducible neurodegeneration by regulating specific mediators of cell death [35-40]. To date, the observed neuroprotective properties of palm oil-derived αTCT are the most potent function of any natural form of vitamin E on a concentration basis." The part about "micromolar amounts of tocotrienol suppress the activity of 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG-CoA) reductase, the hepatic enzyme responsible for cholesterol synthesis" might not be good. And maybe the neuroprotective and cancer-preventative effects could be had other ways. Or maybe, going by the logic that a fruit will be the best part of a plant to eat, the tocotrienols in it are overall worthwhile and maybe the suppression of cholesterol synthesis thing is to an insignificant extent and doesn't affect cholesterol in the larger context the same way as statins because of mediating effects of other things in the palm fruit and I'm oversimplifying it by saying it might not be good. It might still be good to consider that the need for Vitamin E is less in context of a carnivore diet metabolism.
Hi Dr. Saladino, I do eat meat regularly, and I was close to ordering your book when I happened to notice that it has got hundreds of mostly positive reviewes (and some are verified purchase - dated February 2020), but on all Amazon sites the book is only sold as of August 4,2020. Could someone explain that to me?
@@nate8415 I watched another one and I've quit my 50+ year coffee habit. Did just hot water for quite a while but nowi drink dandelion root tea...so delicious!
I built all my muscle on carnivore zero carbs I would constantly run out of muscle glycogen despite eat a shit ton of protein and taking creatine had to add in gummy bears n sweet tarts for glucose I then realized I was making things harder for myself
In a nutshell, pasture raised animal products are best due to a more natural diet and healthy life. Beef may be best (most nutritionally complete) based on the health improvements of many N of 1 stories of autoimmunities/inflammatory diseases (Amber O'hearn, Michaela Peterson, Jordan Peterson, Kelly Hogan,Laura Spath, Mark and Chris Bell, Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, Caitlin Weeks & Sally Norton). l recently saw Dr Saladino's video on why monogastrics, like chicken and pork, may be less healthful due to their feed diet of soy and grains affecting the omega fat ratios in their flesh/fat. Ruminate animals seem to be the best choice nutritionally and ethically ( if that matters to you 😊). Check out Dr Saladino's interviews on regenerative agriculture which show how this will heal people and the environment. Good luck on your health quest!!!
Is it eating carbs and fats together that increase fat storage, or can one separate the too, to reduce fat storage? eat carbs for breakfast and lunch, and then fats and protein for dinner
..and really, why stress about fasted blood glucose if I am fat adapted? I would rather test my insulin levels at the same time. That's being said: if it is high, can be fixed WITHOUT any pharmaceuticals: FASTING! Cheep! I don't see the point of checking blood glucose around the clock. I do not consume any carbs. Fat and animal protein, mostly in 2:1 ratio. Simple.
I have an insatiable appetite. Even with carnivore I have to be mindful to not overeat. I'm currently eating about 3.25 lbs of meat per day and maintaining a fantastic physique but I can easily put down 4 lbs plus if I don't keep track. Keto is my next best option but carnivore works better for me. Without either keto or carnivore I'm totally off the rails and easily get fat.
I can relate to that..the only way I could finally understand what satiety meant was, I had to completely exclude all plants from my diet. Also, what I seem to benefit from even more, I calculated a 2:1 fat to protein ratio. I have a little more of protein on hard gym days. I actually used Dr. Mercola's "Cronometer". This ratio gives me enough energy without large amount of food, and with good protein intake. Sometimes, I can't even finish the meal, I wait till I can. I do mostly OMAD. Cheers!:-)
It takes industrial processing to extract fatty acids from seeds in large amounts. I'm sure coffee bean oil could be made, but you aren't getting much linoleic acid from drip coffee.
I live for listening to these podcasts while eating lunch every day. Steak and eggs just taste so much better while digging into the minutiae of human physiology with Paul.
One of the best ones. Don't miss this one guys. Special Thanks to Dr Paul & Dr. Tommy for the time spent.
Another thoroughly enjoyable and informative discussion. The link between insulin resistance and inflammation was really interesting as was the sodium/potassium ratio. Great job. 5 stars!
Protein does age people. I’ve been following a carnivore diet for about half a year thanks for all the information provided by Dr. Saladino. I noticed that when my daily protein intake was around 1g/pound, my period came in 22-23 days, which was much faster than my prior carnivore years. Then later I controlled my protein intake around 0.7g/kg of lean body mass, which for me was about 30g per day, then my period came every 30+ days. I am now carnivore+OMAD with satisfactory period intervals.
Men have greater need for protein though, or better ability to utilize it ..
I was puzzled why my period shortened to 24 days from regular 28 days. My protein intake has been 120 g a day, which is 1 g per pound of lean weight. I will be reducing it to see, if that is the reason for a shorter period. Thanks so much, Yati Li.
Why do you think it makes you age faster? One could argue that an increased fertility rate is a sign of improved health.
Nduder During adulthood, you want to grow as slow as possible for longevity concern. 22 days is too fast and not healthy taking into account I also water fast 6-8 days every month, too much nutrient, too much mTOR activation, therefore increased cancer risk. Dr. Ron Rosedale explained this point very well.
@@yatili7334 Thank you for your reply. I will check out dr. Rosendale's work.
Great to see Tommy back on the show! I have been waiting for this one.
Thank you for adding timestamps, awesome!
High carb with fat and a caloric surplus and the fat gets stored, a.k.a. the Randle cycle. One of Bart Kay's favorite subjects.
My 68 year old father went carnivore-ish and "inappropriately cured his type 2 diabetes" 😜 thanks in large part to RUclipsrs such as yourself ❤️💕. I was able to reassure my parents that this was a legitimate option and pass on shows and information. His doctor told him he is no longer diabetic 😒 (fortunately my father realizes type 2 is a lifestyle disease), but now is trying to put him on statins. I would love to hear more about the type 2 healing process as he still has quite a belly and wakes with blood glucose of just over 100. I will have to listen to this one again so I can send him notes 💚
If he eats high fat,
@@univ3rsal do you have any links? Did high fat cure you of have a waking glucose of 100?
I believe it was Gabrielle Lyon, in an interview with Mike Mutzel, who said she likes her clients to get about 30 grams of protein per meal (based on 3 meals a day, if I recall), in order to maximize the absorption of the nutrients you guys are talking about, around minute 35.
Re: coffee, i agree with Tommy when it comes to taste as i can taste the paper in coffee filters and tea bags too, so i go stainless steel and loose leaf, i would be interested to know about the acrylamide levels as i once heard that the darker roasts burn it off more, please Paul do a Coffee episode!
37:50 insulin resistance starts.
Lots of great new information here - thank you guys!
Tommy is spot on regarding metabolic flexibility. Fully fat adapted for long periods can be fixed in a couple days if a person wants to consume carbs for whatever reason. This is verbatim the position Benjamin Bikman writes about in his book. Maybe some of the dunderheads bashing low carb eating will eventually learn we don't need to cycle on and off low carb to be metabolically flexible.
I don't see the point of cycling (unless it means biking)..I just adjust the fat to protein ratio. Have a bit more protein when the self torture with weight training is heavy. Consuming even just a little carbs for me would mean EAT ALL DAY. No thanks.
@@krisztinaschneider2561 I can relate to "consuming a little carbs means eat all day"! That's crazy!
The trouble is when you're socialising, it's very hard to find carnivore friendly meals when eating out.
Thanks for talking about type one diabetes and keto-insulin resistant! I'm a t1d keto 16months and now 1month carnivore
I must be too tired as this is my first off-topic comment. Well not this... Love Paul's video podcasts, but the following... I am mesmerized by the optic phenomenon starting 00:18:00 and extending to 01:10:00 at the wall behind Tommy
Do anyone have a link to "1:06:44 The bagel study" or a way to get acces to it, I dont mind buying it from publisher if required, or just the real name of the study/research paper ?
CSO-Chief Snake Officer. That’s a good one!
Thanks for the in-depth discussion of glucose sparing insulin resistance in low carb eaters. I’ve been on keto, trending carnivore, since 2017 and have wondered what is happening with my glucose tolerance. I may start a honey experiment of my own, but would love to do a full Kraft Test beforehand.
The smoke detector on the wall looks perplexed
hahahahahahahaha..... LOVE “COFFEE” I drink only about 8 cups a day now but have drank up to 2 pots a day since 16 years old so thats like 50 years now! I feel great and pass my annual physical with no issues now that I have gone Carnivore.
UC-sufferer here, and coffee is definitely is a bad idea for me. Triggers the auto-immunity and causes delayed flare ups. Funny thing is, the longer Im carnivore, the more sensitive I get.
I still drink some caffeine but I'm no longer able to handle coffee.
So what they’re talking about around 40mins - if you add fat to a high carb diet you will store the fat whereas to that point on just a high carb diet you burn off the carbs - what sort of carbs and what sort of fat are we talking about here?
I honestly find it difficult to put on a lot of muscle on carnivore, but I'm way more ripped and lean. When I had a high carb garbage diet and drank sugary protein shakes and protein bars I put on muscle easily, but I also put on fat. They say you can pick just two of three: Big, lean, natural. I'd rather have a 6 pack and look dyel in a tshirt than have a beer belly and look swole in a tshirt.
Interesting, insulin as being anti-catabolic rather than anabolic. That makes sense to me, anecdotally.
Wonder what low carb is to Paul, 150g or less, or 50g or less
What about if a person renders their own tallow and lard from a animal? I render all our fat so ......
Great interview. Learned a ton. Thanks doc.
Does anyone have the link to the next podcast in this series?
Once again, I seem to be picking confusion here? ketogenic doesn't necessarily mean going with a high animal fat intake as I understand it. It is simply a low carb diet with a high good-fat component. You can have a plant-based keto diet (refer Dr David Jockers) with MCT, avocados or olive oil for example. Given that is the case, I can see an overlap with Dr Michael Gregor's studies. I'm not Vegan by the way lol
Paul, what is the source of vitamin E on the carnivore diet? Thank you.
Probably egg yolks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_E#Recommendations
"The U.S. Institute of Medicine (renamed National Academy of Medicine in 2015) updated Estimated Average Requirements (EARs) and Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) for vitamin E in 2000.[2] The EAR for vitamin E for women and men ages 14 and up is 12 mg/day. The RDA is 15 mg/day."
www.whiteoakpastures.com/Images/nutritional-facts-about-grass-fed-beef.pdf
"The current recommended intake of vitamin E is 22 IU (natural source) or 33 IU (synthetic source) for men and women (National Institute of Health Clinical Center, 2002) is necessary for biological activity.
The amount of natural alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) found in beef raised on a concentrate-based diet is 3.7 μg/gram of tissue, where as the amount of vitamin E in beef raised on a grass-based diet is 9.3 μg/gram, there is a approximately a three fold increase over conventional beef. A 100 gram serving (approximately 3.5 oz.) would yield 930 μg of vitamin E, about 7% of the daily dietary requirement for this nutrient.
Resource:
www.csuchico.edu/agr/grsfdbef/health-benefits/ben-vita-e.html"
3.5 oz x 9.143 = 32 oz or 2 lbs of beef, so 930 μg Vitamin E/100 g beef x 9.143 = 8503 μg or 8.5 mg in 2 lbs of beef. We'll go back to this.
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naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/41808/PDF
page 6:
Vitamin E in one pastured egg yolk is 1.1-1.3 IU depending on the pasture plant
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ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminE-HealthProfessional/#h2
"To convert from mg to IU:
1 mg of alpha-tocopherol is equivalent to 1.49 IU of the natural form or 2.22 IU of the synthetic form.
To convert from IU to mg:
1 IU of the natural form is equivalent to 0.67 mg of alpha-tocopherol.
1 IU of the synthetic form is equivalent to 0.45 mg of alpha-tocopherol."
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So 1.1-1.3 IU is 0.737-0.871 mg in each pastured egg yolk. That's 2.9-3.5 mg or 4.4-5.2 IU in four yolks.
Back to the Vitamin E in beef: 8.5 mg per 2 lbs of grass fed beef x 1.49 IU/mg = 12.67 IU in 2 lbs of grass fed beef, 6.34 IU or 4.25 mg in 1 lb.
Remember "the Estimated Average Requirement for vitamin E for women and men ages 14 and up is 12 mg/day. The RDA is 15 mg/day." And the National Institute of Health Clinical Center's "recommended intake of vitamin E is 22 IU (natural source) or 33 IU (synthetic source) for men and women." The RDA of 15 mg is equal to 22.35 IU.
Compare that to one avocado containing 4.16 milligrams of alpha-tocopherol according to the USDA. (fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/171705/nutrients)
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Vitamin E is often found in high amounts in plants that have lots of unsaturated fats, like avocado. Vitamin E protects lipids from peroxidation. I think the plants use it for that too. Avocado is a fruit, and going by the logic of what plants want you to eat of them, it could be an ok addition to a carnivore diet.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_peroxidation
"Lipid peroxidation is the oxidative degradation of lipids. It is the process in which free radicals "steal" electrons from the lipids in cell membranes, resulting in cell damage. This process proceeds by a free radical chain reaction mechanism. It most often affects polyunsaturated fatty acids, because they contain multiple double bonds in between which lie methylene bridges (-CH2-) that possess especially reactive hydrogen atoms...The chemical products of this oxidation are known as lipid peroxides or lipid oxidation products (LOPs)."
www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.atv.15.3.325
"Vitamin E is a potent lipid-soluble antioxidant that has been shown to be the major oxidation chain reaction-breaking compound in membranes [30] and an important factor in the protection of polyunsaturated fatty acids in LDL against lipid peroxidation."
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So 4 avocados would give 1 mg more than the RDA, 16 pastured egg yolks would give 1 mg less than the RDA, 2 lbs of grass fed beef gives 2 or 3 mg less than the RDA. Assuming the RDA is accurate, 2 lbs of grass fed beef and a few egg yolks would be enough. There's also the possibility that maybe the combination of a relatively low ratio of unsaturated:saturated fats in a carnivore diet compared to a diet with more vegetable fats like what the RDA needs might have been calculated in context of, and/or other things about a carnivore diet that can decrease lipid peroxidation in a person would make for less Vitamin E needed. Judging the adequacy of Vitamin E in a carnivore diet based on the RDA for Vitamin E might be a similar situation to judging the adequacy of Vitamin C on a carnivore diet based on the RDA that was calculated in context of metabolisms affected by mixed diets.
Amber O'Hearn's writing about Vitamin C needs in metabolic context of a carnivore diet:
www.empiri.ca/2017/02/c-is-for-carnivore.html
nutrita.app/article/vitamin-c-on-keto
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_E#Recommendations
"The U.S. Institute of Medicine (renamed National Academy of Medicine in 2015) updated Estimated Average Requirements (EARs) and Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) for vitamin E in 2000.[2] The EAR for vitamin E for women and men ages 14 and up is 12 mg/day. The RDA is 15 mg/day. RDAs are higher than EARs so as to identify amounts that will cover people with higher than average requirements. For infants up to 12 months the Adequate Intake (AI) is 4-5 mg/day...
The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) refers to the collective set of information as Dietary Reference Values, with Population Reference Intake (PRI) instead of RDA, and Average Requirement instead of EAR. AI and UL are defined the same as in United States. For women and men ages 10 and older the PRIs are set at 11 and 13 mg/day, respectively. PRI for pregnancy is 11 mg/day, for lactation 11 mg/day. For children ages 1-9 years the PRIs increase with age from 6 to 9 mg/day. These PRIs are lower than the U.S. RDAs.[28]...
The Japan National Institute of Health and Nutrition set lower AIs than the U.S. RDAs or EU PRIs, and intermediate ULs: 6.5 mg/day (females) and 7.0 mg/day (males) for adult AIs[29]... India recommends an intake of 8-10 mg/day..."
So without researching it more, I don't know how the recommended amounts were decided on. If it was in context of a mixed diet then maybe that made more Vitamin E needed.
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If you do want to get more than the RDA of Vitamin E while eating a mostly carnivore diet, red palm oil has a lot of Vitamin E and costs about $10 a pound. Like avocado, it's made from fruit - palm fruit - so maybe the plants aren't attacking us for eating it.
apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/APJCN/12/3/355.pdf
Red palm oil has 500-800 mg/kg or 227-363 mg/lb total alpha-tocopherol, alpha-tocotrienol, gamma-tocotrienol and delta-tocotrienol. One tablespoon is 1/2 an ounce, so in two tablespoons would be about 14-22 mg or 21-32 IU Vitamin E. The fatty acid composition is 0.8% 14:0 myristic acid, 42% 16:0 palmitic, 5.1% 18:0 stearic, 42% 18:1 oleic, 10% 18:2 linoleic. The 0s in the ratios mean unsaturated, the 1 in oleic means monounsatured. (www.aocs.org/stay-informed/inform-magazine/featured-articles/red-palm-oil-february-2017?SSO=True)
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3065441/
"As the most bioavailable of all natural vitamin E isomers and with a well-characterized and selective transport mechanism in mammals, the vast majority of vitamin E research conducted to date has focused on α-tocopherol (αTOC). It is estimated that only 1% of all vitamin E literature and research during the last 30 years addresses tocotrienols [11]. Consequently, a striking asymmetry exists in characterizing the biological significance of non-αTOC family members to the degree that αTOC and vitamin E are often used synonymously. Recent evidence supports unique biological functions of the lesser-characterized natural vitamin E homologues in mammalian tissue...
Members of the tocotrienol family, known to be enriched in palm oil, also possess biological functions that are not shared by αTOC. Micromolar amounts of tocotrienol suppress the activity of 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG-CoA) reductase, the hepatic enzyme responsible for cholesterol synthesis [31,32]. HMG-CoA reductase is the same enzyme targeted by the statin class of drugs, one of the most widely prescribed group of drugs in the United States today [33]. Furthermore, tocotrienols, but not tocopherols, have been shown to suppress growth of human breast cancer cells [34]. Finally, dietary supplementation of the α-tocotrienol (αTCT) isoform uniquely protects against acute ischemic stroke injury in vivo [35]. At a nanomolar concentration range achievable by dietary supplementation, αTCT derived from palm oil prevents inducible neurodegeneration by regulating specific mediators of cell death [35-40]. To date, the observed neuroprotective properties of palm oil-derived αTCT are the most potent function of any natural form of vitamin E on a concentration basis."
The part about "micromolar amounts of tocotrienol suppress the activity of 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG-CoA) reductase, the hepatic enzyme responsible for cholesterol synthesis" might not be good. And maybe the neuroprotective and cancer-preventative effects could be had other ways. Or maybe, going by the logic that a fruit will be the best part of a plant to eat, the tocotrienols in it are overall worthwhile and maybe the suppression of cholesterol synthesis thing is to an insignificant extent and doesn't affect cholesterol in the larger context the same way as statins because of mediating effects of other things in the palm fruit and I'm oversimplifying it by saying it might not be good. It might still be good to consider that the need for Vitamin E is less in context of a carnivore diet metabolism.
Hi Dr. Saladino, I do eat meat regularly, and I was close to ordering your book when I happened to notice that it has got hundreds of mostly positive reviewes (and some are verified purchase - dated February 2020), but on all Amazon sites the book is only sold as of August 4,2020. Could someone explain that to me?
He just put out version #2
@@kdalecreations1597 Thank you so much. That of course makes sense. So I will think about buying the book.
Holy ads on this one lol. Great info again.
I'm interested in how this relates to decaf coffee...little caffeine.
I believe chlorogenic acid is a good antioxidant, yet I think the guest panned it as bad?
What the meaning of drinking coffee if you don't get the caffeine?
@@swedensufal always cracks me up when people ask this question!
@@lynnecobb9399 watch his video coffe doesn’t love you back bet you’ll stop drinking it
@@nate8415 I watched another one and I've quit my 50+ year coffee habit. Did just hot water for quite a while but nowi drink dandelion root tea...so delicious!
What about polyphenols in Angostura bitters? I enjoy a splash in my Topo Chico Mineral Water.
I built all my muscle on carnivore zero carbs I would constantly run out of muscle glycogen despite eat a shit ton of protein and taking creatine had to add in gummy bears n sweet tarts for glucose I then realized I was making things harder for myself
Paul’s hair looks nice 😀
I am 30 minutes into this and so far it’s been nothing but commercials and talk about coffee nothing about insulin resistance
What kinds of meat should I eat and why?
In a nutshell, pasture raised animal products are best due to a more natural diet and healthy life. Beef may be best (most nutritionally complete) based on the health improvements of many N of 1 stories of autoimmunities/inflammatory diseases (Amber O'hearn, Michaela Peterson, Jordan Peterson, Kelly Hogan,Laura Spath, Mark and Chris Bell, Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, Caitlin Weeks & Sally Norton). l recently saw Dr Saladino's video on why monogastrics, like chicken and pork, may be less healthful due to their feed diet of soy and grains affecting the omega fat ratios in their flesh/fat. Ruminate animals seem to be the best choice nutritionally and ethically ( if that matters to you 😊). Check out Dr Saladino's interviews on regenerative agriculture which show how this will heal people and the environment. Good luck on your health quest!!!
Is it eating carbs and fats together that increase fat storage, or can one separate the too, to reduce fat storage? eat carbs for breakfast and lunch, and then fats and protein for dinner
Carbs are only bad in really high amounts or if you combine fat with it. Definitely separate the two macros and keep the carbs relatively low.
@@Mr.MacMan what if one eats 5g/kg/day but split into first 4 meals a day instead of all at once. 5ft meal would be fats and proteins
@Danny B. the butterfly effect that posing a question can have had the question not been asked
It don’t honestly matter in my opinion, just don’t eat in a surplus.
I don’t think it really matters what macro nutrient you’re eating
Looks like we are going to have to eat cows raw, since cooking is processing and thus bad. Who's up for that?
Just looked at the cost of a CGM - sorry - not at that price!
..and really, why stress about fasted blood glucose if I am fat adapted? I would rather test my insulin levels at the same time. That's being said: if it is high, can be fixed WITHOUT any pharmaceuticals: FASTING! Cheep! I don't see the point of checking blood glucose around the clock. I do not consume any carbs. Fat and animal protein, mostly in 2:1 ratio. Simple.
@@krisztinaschneider2561 for me it's more about curiosity when falling off the wagon with the odd cheat meal.
ATP > ADP > AMP > A (Adenosine) > Nighty night ^^
I have an insatiable appetite. Even with carnivore I have to be mindful to not overeat. I'm currently eating about 3.25 lbs of meat per day and maintaining a fantastic physique but I can easily put down 4 lbs plus if I don't keep track. Keto is my next best option but carnivore works better for me. Without either keto or carnivore I'm totally off the rails and easily get fat.
I can relate to that..the only way I could finally understand what satiety meant was, I had to completely exclude all plants from my diet. Also, what I seem to benefit from even more, I calculated a 2:1 fat to protein ratio. I have a little more of protein on hard gym days. I actually used Dr. Mercola's "Cronometer". This ratio gives me enough energy without large amount of food, and with good protein intake. Sometimes, I can't even finish the meal, I wait till I can. I do mostly OMAD. Cheers!:-)
Would coffee be a SEED OIL?
....around 45% Linoleic Acid.
It takes industrial processing to extract fatty acids from seeds in large amounts. I'm sure coffee bean oil could be made, but you aren't getting much linoleic acid from drip coffee.
First of all, thank you for the lovely content. Secondly, Tommy needs to tell me a bedtime story with that voice. Oh my. 😉
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You guys described me to a T.
Thanks for doing these.
DANG that's interesting :)
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I cant stand Wood voice, is too grave too posh