I was inspired by this when I first saw it back in 2017. Have thought about it a lot. I have a 80ft eucalyptus all rigged up to dismantle in a similar way tomorrow. In all honesty not strictly necessary as we could just lower it all quite simply - but it's a good opportunity to practice this method. Fairly gear intensive since the Offya isn't on the market, but I reckon there's a good chance it'll be quicker than a controlled speedline. I have never filmed any work properly before but I will see if I can upload a snippet of action! Thank you so much for the inspiration!
I have been in the business for 35yrs I m 50 now and you gentlemen did a excellent job couldn’t have done ✅ better myself! That gentlemen I must tell you is a top notch compliment for I put not many better than me in climbing 🧗♀️ and rigging than myself!! Boasting no but I know what I can do an you guys did a wonderful job! Job well done 👍
Wow, thank you Timothy, as someone only in the industry for 14 years I regard a compliment from somebody with another 21 years on that very very highly, thank you very much for your kind words, much appreciated, all the best
Arborist treeworkvideos no problem, job well done is that a excellent job my young friend and brother as a fellow Tree expert arborist. Always best regards and do be safe
Arborist treeworkvideos look 👀 yes I have many more ways that the job could have been done but the thing is you did the job with awareness and safety the way it should be done. That is what matters plus did it in a good time it looks .. good job again
That was the most epic use of speed line I've ever seen!!! Thanks for taking the time and creating a video about it to share with others!!! I would love to see a picture of your chainsaw powered tool also lifting device... I use a chainsaw powered capson winch, also a Lewis winch on a daily basis....A couple of the handiest tools I have purchased since starting tree work 11 years ago.. keep up the videos this was a pleasure to watch!!!
Hey bro, excellent video and I love the approach you take to complex rigging like this. Super stoked to see the blue/trolley block you are working on as it seems to be a great addition to a rigging kit. Keep the videos coming as I always look forward to watching your work.
Great video, deserves more views and likes. Can't wait to get my hands on a job which has the requirement for a 3D line. Looking forward to seeing more. All tree needs
Hi August, thanks for the comment, glad you liked the video. It's not quite up to the high standard of your video editing skills, i'm always impressed by the quality of the filming and edits on your channel... I have been using an older version of Adobe Premiere Elements (9 from memory), although a computer and software upgrade is on the cards. All the best
I watched this video and without seeing the title just purely from the climber style i could tell it was the same people that did part one. My fav arb vid hands down. Come and work for me !!!!!!
You constantly produce some of the only tree content I can watch again and again and again. As a matter of interest, why not use SRT considering there was a lot of up and downs, or did you get a tow most of the time? Also is the top line static in the tree and the bottom orange one used to manipulate the position and lift with the green climbing line as a retrieval/ braking line? Also did I spot the first tree stabilized in the opposite direction to the speedline?
Hi there, firstly thank you for your kind comment, secondly I use SRT a lot but like to switch between the two depending on the job. For felling sometimes I prefer just to walk around the tree in spikes so the difference in SRT and DRT are quite small for doing this... but if I can get a tow then I will always get a tow as i did on this job :) thirdly the top line is static, bottom line lifts and lowers, and green line is braking and haul back line so you spotted right. Fourthly due to the tall spindly nature of the trees and characteristics of the wood there were tensioned guy lines either end of the static line anchors. Fifthly thanks again and glad you enjoyed the video
to be honest didn't expect a response, thanks for all the answers to the pedantic questions. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the next one whenever that does come around
Just recently uploaded some stuff onto fb and thought you might be interested in this photo in particular seeing as you were asking about the setup before. It is an annotated photo showing the setup in first part of video: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154814852920286&l=b53b032235
Hi John, love this video and the new equipment. What was the Ofya attached to on the top end? The tree you were in or were you lucky to have another tree behind? And was that just through an impact block? Thanks
Looks very cool indeed! However, who is controlling what lines? Is the guy at the recieving end controlling the "up and down" line? Is the arborist or another guy controlling the "back and forth" line?
Hi Kristoffer, there was only three of us on site so I (the climber) am controlling the horizontal movement of the trolley from the tree and hauling back while one of the two guys on the other side of the river is controlling the up and down through the powered rigging bollard. The other one is receiving and unclipping the load and chipping to keep landing clear for next bit. Hope this all makes sense. Here is an annotated photo showing the initial setup of the ropes as seen in the first part of the video: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154814852920286&l=b53b032235 Hope this helps :)
were you controlling the trolley? I couldnt see to well in the video what was stopping the trolley and pulling it back up to you if you were doing it or your groundy
hi Masonaterx, I was controlling the longitudinal movement of the trolley most of the time from within the tree. There were only three of us running the job so two people needed to remain the other side of the river to operate the rigging winch and process the debris. Hope this helps to clarify. Many thanks
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wow good job..whats the name of that set up, the blue block ? ? great video! one of the best on youtube..also what are you using to winch on the grcs with the saw head?
Hi Arbor Borealis, thank you for your kind comment. Well spotted, In this video we are using a stihl 362 with Atom Drill attachment which works on the rigging device used but not with the GRCS unfortunately as the Harken winch fitted to GRCS is low gear anticlockwise and the atom drill turns clockwise only. The blue block has no name at the moment but if you are in Germany next week and interested to find out more it will be at Deutsche Baumpflegetage Augsburg 2017 in a demonstration. Thanks again.
Awesome work! Epic film! Where you guys at with that trolley system? You think it will ever make it to our market? I do quite a bit of controlled speed line and that seemed to simplify it a lot.
Hi Charles, glad you liked the vid, This is where we are at with it dmmprofessional.com/documents/offya-and-deviant.pdf This was showcased at big European show two weeks ago in Germany and it will be at TCIAn Expo in Columbus this week:)
@arboristtreeworkvideos Sorry to bother you again. What sort of distances were you dealing with and what diameter/length ropes did you use? Looking to use this kind of set up for a demo day at our new training centre. Cheers
Hi Tam! not sure if I sent you this before or not but here is an annotated photo of the initial setup: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154814852920286&l=b53b032235 As you can see 5 ropes were used. Two as tensioned guy lines, one main line, one lifting line and one haul back/control line. Mainline was Teufelberger 16mm sirius (75 meter), lifting line Teufelberger arborWINCH 12mm (dyneema core) (200 meter). Haul back/ control line yale limelight 11.7mm 45m (an old climbing line ). I think the guy ropes were yale double esterleron 16mm but I can't remember, it was just what rope I had. The most important rope was the arborwinch as it is super strong and super light so the weight of the swivel hook and impact block was heavier than the horizontal parts of the lifting line, this meant the hook would always lower down even when not carrying a branch. The longer the span of the setup the more weight will be needed on hook block to counteract the weight of the horizontal rope. The setup was about 35meters long from memory and about 30m high at the island end. The lifting line needs to be long as the reeve uses a lot of rope. Maximum rope length needed will occur at the highest point of the mainline (at island tree anchor) with the hook block at ground level. So if tree was 30 meteres to the mainline you would need 30mx2=60m (rope from block to trolley and back again) plus span (+35m) = 95m, plus distance of pulley in tail spar tree to rigging device (+20m) = 115m plus contingency of 10m to allow for knots and so groundy has rope to hold onto and can stand back from rigging device = 125m. This is the approximate worst case scenario of how much rope needed in the lifting line for a 35m setup at 30m - 20m heights. Ideally I would use dyneema for the mainline too but didn't have it available to me at the time. Where are you based? Hope this all makes sense :)
Arborist treeworkvideos we're in Adelaide, South Australia. But myself and the other trainer are both from the UK. Yeah that's helped loads and made sense. I didn't think about the weight of the block etc, I'm glad I asked now. It'll be interesting to find out what kind of distances you can cover with this set up and whether using cable would be a more suitable option. I wanted to use the Reeve set up for a job I did last year where we were zip lining bags of bamboo cutting off the edge of a 35m waterfall down to the carpark 85m away but I wasn't sure on the dynamics so didn't want to risk it. Cheers for taking the time to explain all that, really appreciate it. I'll be sure you tag you in any videos we do to see what your help created and whether you have any input. Thanks a whole heap
Hi Tam, always happy to help. That waterfall job sounded awesome, The trolley has many different configurations and really is a building block, the reeve I used in this job is just one configuration. One of my favorite configurations is a very simple two rope one for pulling stuff uphill. It is fast and simple and quick to set up. Regarding steel cable, during the prototyping I made a steel cable version for a particular job. I'll send you some photos via fb
@arboristtreeworkvideos it'd be sick of you could do a video showing the set up from different angles and explaining how it's all set up and used. just an idea. sick video again though
thanks Tam, I still owe people an explanation video for some of the rigging in birdland 1 so I will have to add explanation for Birdland 2 onto the to do list as well :)
@arboristtreeworkvideos what distances were you working with? also what length and diameter of ropes did you have to use? any news on when the trolley will be available for sale?
I've been doing tree work 31 years...... YOU GUYS ARE MY HERO'S ....!!!!!
you guys are incredible
I was inspired by this when I first saw it back in 2017. Have thought about it a lot. I have a 80ft eucalyptus all rigged up to dismantle in a similar way tomorrow. In all honesty not strictly necessary as we could just lower it all quite simply - but it's a good opportunity to practice this method. Fairly gear intensive since the Offya isn't on the market, but I reckon there's a good chance it'll be quicker than a controlled speedline. I have never filmed any work properly before but I will see if I can upload a snippet of action!
Thank you so much for the inspiration!
I have been in the business for 35yrs I m 50 now and you gentlemen did a excellent job couldn’t have done ✅ better myself! That gentlemen I must tell you is a top notch compliment for I put not many better than me in climbing 🧗♀️ and rigging than myself!! Boasting no but I know what I can do an you guys did a wonderful job! Job well done 👍
Wow, thank you Timothy, as someone only in the industry for 14 years I regard a compliment from somebody with another 21 years on that very very highly, thank you very much for your kind words, much appreciated, all the best
Arborist treeworkvideos no problem, job well done is that a excellent job my young friend and brother as a fellow Tree expert arborist. Always best regards and do be safe
Arborist treeworkvideos look 👀 yes I have many more ways that the job could have been done but the thing is you did the job with awareness and safety the way it should be done. That is what matters plus did it in a good time it looks .. good job again
That was the most epic use of speed line I've ever seen!!! Thanks for taking the time and creating a video about it to share with others!!! I would love to see a picture of your chainsaw powered tool also lifting device... I use a chainsaw powered capson winch, also a Lewis winch on a daily basis....A couple of the handiest tools I have purchased since starting tree work 11 years ago.. keep up the videos this was a pleasure to watch!!!
How has this not gotten more views than this?! Top work video
Whoa!! That was cool stuff right there!! That block for the controlled speed line was a cool bit of trick!! That just blew my mind!!!💣
Amazing work and editing tree brother. Please keep making these great videos. Very much enjoy watching them.
Hey bro, excellent video and I love the approach you take to complex rigging like this. Super stoked to see the blue/trolley block you are working on as it seems to be a great addition to a rigging kit. Keep the videos coming as I always look forward to watching your work.
One of the finest rigging jobs iv seen
Great video, deserves more views and likes. Can't wait to get my hands on a job which has the requirement for a 3D line. Looking forward to seeing more. All tree needs
This is amazing. A great deal of planning went into this operation. Kudos.
Amazing work!
Well done sir! Well done!
Great video. Cool project. Looks like a Sony Vegas edit.
Hi August, thanks for the comment, glad you liked the video. It's not quite up to the high standard of your video editing skills, i'm always impressed by the quality of the filming and edits on your channel... I have been using an older version of Adobe Premiere Elements (9 from memory), although a computer and software upgrade is on the cards. All the best
Arborist treeworkvideos cool, ya, the way you did the picture in picture looked exactly like the way I do it in Sony Vegas.
Um, these edits can be done in a handful of softwares and the result could look exactly like this.
Woodpecker Vision yeah I suppose so. . .something about it looked Sony Vegas-ish to me. But nope.
Superb control from start to finish!!!
OH MY GOD YES
I've been waiting for you to come out with this.
I watched this video and without seeing the title just purely from the climber style i could tell it was the same people that did part one. My fav arb vid hands down. Come and work for me !!!!!!
Good job. Greetings from Poland
Birdland - The gift that keeps on giving.
....until the trees run out
+Arborist treeworkvideos no, because I can still watch these legendary videos.
Great job as always man . looking forward to checking out that setup.
I love your work and your videos easily my favorite iv watched them many times, soo epic keep it up!
Good show!
yeah that blue trolley block was a freaking awesome idea would love to see that some more.
great video.. cool and intersting
You constantly produce some of the only tree content I can watch again and again and again.
As a matter of interest, why not use SRT considering there was a lot of up and downs, or did you get a tow most of the time?
Also is the top line static in the tree and the bottom orange one used to manipulate the position and lift with the green climbing line as a retrieval/ braking line?
Also did I spot the first tree stabilized in the opposite direction to the speedline?
Hi there, firstly thank you for your kind comment, secondly I use SRT a lot but like to switch between the two depending on the job. For felling sometimes I prefer just to walk around the tree in spikes so the difference in SRT and DRT are quite small for doing this... but if I can get a tow then I will always get a tow as i did on this job :) thirdly the top line is static, bottom line lifts and lowers, and green line is braking and haul back line so you spotted right. Fourthly due to the tall spindly nature of the trees and characteristics of the wood there were tensioned guy lines either end of the static line anchors. Fifthly thanks again and glad you enjoyed the video
to be honest didn't expect a response, thanks for all the answers to the pedantic questions. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the next one whenever that does come around
Just recently uploaded some stuff onto fb and thought you might be interested in this photo in particular seeing as you were asking about the setup before. It is an annotated photo showing the setup in first part of video: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154814852920286&l=b53b032235
Hi John, love this video and the new equipment. What was the Ofya attached to on the top end? The tree you were in or were you lucky to have another tree behind? And was that just through an impact block? Thanks
Hi Jo, thanks for your kind comment. I have sent details to you over fb. All the best
Pure wizardry! Nice!
Nice controlled job :)
Amazing
Looks very cool indeed!
However, who is controlling what lines? Is the guy at the recieving end controlling the "up and down" line?
Is the arborist or another guy controlling the "back and forth" line?
Hi Kristoffer, there was only three of us on site so I (the climber) am controlling the horizontal movement of the trolley from the tree and hauling back while one of the two guys on the other side of the river is controlling the up and down through the powered rigging bollard. The other one is receiving and unclipping the load and chipping to keep landing clear for next bit. Hope this all makes sense. Here is an annotated photo showing the initial setup of the ropes as seen in the first part of the video: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154814852920286&l=b53b032235 Hope this helps :)
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Yes i see, that does make sense, also a good idea with the guy lines :) thank you!
Excellent work. Is there an equipment list?
were you controlling the trolley? I couldnt see to well in the video what was stopping the trolley and pulling it back up to you if you were doing it or your groundy
hi Masonaterx, I was controlling the longitudinal movement of the trolley most of the time from within the tree. There were only three of us running the job so two people needed to remain the other side of the river to operate the rigging winch and process the debris. Hope this helps to clarify. Many thanks
wow good job..whats the name of that set up, the blue block ? ? great video! one of the best on youtube..also what are you using to winch on the grcs with the saw head?
Hi Arbor Borealis, thank you for your kind comment. Well spotted, In this video we are using a stihl 362 with Atom Drill attachment which works on the rigging device used but not with the GRCS unfortunately as the Harken winch fitted to GRCS is low gear anticlockwise and the atom drill turns clockwise only. The blue block has no name at the moment but if you are in Germany next week and interested to find out more it will be at Deutsche Baumpflegetage Augsburg 2017 in a demonstration. Thanks again.
Awesome work! Epic film! Where you guys at with that trolley system? You think it will ever make it to our market? I do quite a bit of controlled speed line and that seemed to simplify it a lot.
Hi Charles, glad you liked the vid, This is where we are at with it dmmprofessional.com/documents/offya-and-deviant.pdf This was showcased at big European show two weeks ago in Germany and it will be at TCIAn Expo in Columbus this week:)
@arboristtreeworkvideos
Sorry to bother you again. What sort of distances were you dealing with and what diameter/length ropes did you use?
Looking to use this kind of set up for a demo day at our new training centre.
Cheers
Hi Tam! not sure if I sent you this before or not but here is an annotated photo of the initial setup: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154814852920286&l=b53b032235
As you can see 5 ropes were used. Two as tensioned guy lines, one main line, one lifting line and one haul back/control line. Mainline was Teufelberger 16mm sirius (75 meter), lifting line Teufelberger arborWINCH 12mm (dyneema core) (200 meter). Haul back/ control line yale limelight 11.7mm 45m (an old climbing line ). I think the guy ropes were yale double esterleron 16mm but I can't remember, it was just what rope I had. The most important rope was the arborwinch as it is super strong and super light so the weight of the swivel hook and impact block was heavier than the horizontal parts of the lifting line, this meant the hook would always lower down even when not carrying a branch. The longer the span of the setup the more weight will be needed on hook block to counteract the weight of the horizontal rope. The setup was about 35meters long from memory and about 30m high at the island end. The lifting line needs to be long as the reeve uses a lot of rope. Maximum rope length needed will occur at the highest point of the mainline (at island tree anchor) with the hook block at ground level. So if tree was 30 meteres to the mainline you would need 30mx2=60m (rope from block to trolley and back again) plus span (+35m) = 95m, plus distance of pulley in tail spar tree to rigging device (+20m) = 115m plus contingency of 10m to allow for knots and so groundy has rope to hold onto and can stand back from rigging device = 125m. This is the approximate worst case scenario of how much rope needed in the lifting line for a 35m setup at 30m - 20m heights. Ideally I would use dyneema for the mainline too but didn't have it available to me at the time. Where are you based? Hope this all makes sense :)
Arborist treeworkvideos we're in Adelaide, South Australia. But myself and the other trainer are both from the UK.
Yeah that's helped loads and made sense. I didn't think about the weight of the block etc, I'm glad I asked now.
It'll be interesting to find out what kind of distances you can cover with this set up and whether using cable would be a more suitable option.
I wanted to use the Reeve set up for a job I did last year where we were zip lining bags of bamboo cutting off the edge of a 35m waterfall down to the carpark 85m away but I wasn't sure on the dynamics so didn't want to risk it.
Cheers for taking the time to explain all that, really appreciate it. I'll be sure you tag you in any videos we do to see what your help created and whether you have any input.
Thanks a whole heap
Hi Tam, always happy to help. That waterfall job sounded awesome, The trolley has many different configurations and really is a building block, the reeve I used in this job is just one configuration. One of my favorite configurations is a very simple two rope one for pulling stuff uphill. It is fast and simple and quick to set up. Regarding steel cable, during the prototyping I made a steel cable version for a particular job. I'll send you some photos via fb
@arboristtreeworkvideos it'd be sick of you could do a video showing the set up from different angles and explaining how it's all set up and used. just an idea. sick video again though
thanks Tam, I still owe people an explanation video for some of the rigging in birdland 1 so I will have to add explanation for Birdland 2 onto the to do list as well :)
@arboristtreeworkvideos what distances were you working with? also what length and diameter of ropes did you have to use? any news on when the trolley will be available for sale?
Hi Tam, here is some information on the latest production version :) dmmprofessional.com/documents/offya-and-deviant.pdf
what size is you orange rope?
Thanks for posting this, such a fucking cool setup, kind of like a skyline in big commercial logging. Is the blue block a new design?
Hi there, thanks for the comment, it is a prototype that has been developed in a close cooperation between myself, Treemagineers and DMM.
video link seems broken :(
Lot of climbers out there, but only a few a that smart!
nice!