8:16 - Sacred Treasure ｢The Mirror that Reflects Absurdness｣ 10:23 - Sacred Treasure ｢The Sword that Severes the Dificulty Badly｣ 11:41 - Divine Grandson ｢Ladder Built Between Possible ---【Really?】｣ 12:47 - Transmigration ｢I'm Done｣ 13:53 - ｢The Vanishing Cloud that will Never Let You Sleep Ever Again｣
You guys do know there is a normal extra stage right? This is just a beefed ex version for crazy people. There's been plenty "wow this is crappy and disappointing" comments as if this was the actual extra.
@@technicolormischief-maker5683 you realize that you have to 1cc unreal to even unlock it right? 95% of players won't ever know it exists in the first place, so what's your point?
Maybe the reason the patterns are so...ridiculous might be because the protagonist is DRUNK. Perhaps there really are safe ways to get through these spellcards but because we see things as they do, the cards end up being more unnatural than they would be otherwise.
It looks really impressive, but mega rotating laser and the amazing spam before are just ridiculous. Oh and that fast rainbow laser and the crazy end of the survival. I guess Jynx was....a jinx.
10th spell is the most impossible looking to me. Thats got to be hard even for a TAS, without safespot I mean. Actually, it would be interesting to see a TAS run of this. Anyway this fight was pretty cool and hilarious to watch. I like the music too.
My reaction over the whole Time: "I can't see shit!!!!" But im very intresting, if a perfect Absurdley Extra TAS-Run is possible. Whoever can made that i really want to see that.
Something or other Wow, old comment. Anyways, you missed the point. It is a joke mode, but regardless it's there as juxtaposition to the rest of Jynx's mediocre design. Including a mode that is hilariously broken is a common thing amongst new and/or poor designers to hide insecurities: "if people see this thing that's _definitely_ bad, they won't think the stuff I actually put effort into is that bad in comparison", even if that isn't explicitly intended. Additionally, the _way_ this mode is broken is also illustrative of Jynx not really getting what makes bad design. Again, it's common among people who aren't that good to go straight to the impossible bullshit. It means you don't have to think about what you're doing, and the player dies, so mission accomplished right? There are definitely such things as good joke modes, even good "unfair" joke modes, but you still need a good design sense in order to know how to go about it properly.
+Vulcapyro That's a seriously cringe-worthy armchair psychologist strawman argument you've got going on there. The ``argument" you made can be also used for Inbachi or any other boss that's too ridiculous to be anything other than pure resource management, and boils down to nothing more than self-righteous rambling about what you consider to be good or bad design, or hell, even a good _joke_.
Funny how the guy who throws out the $10 words sounds like said $10 words. No, CAVE games aren't perfect, but they have literally decades of proof of great work that's almost always pretty fair. Stuff like Inbachi is thrown in there to test players, like every TLB ever has. You'll notice that Inbachi is the second potential bullshit design in a CAVE game after PinkSweets, and players still haven't fully figured Inbachi out yet. Len'en can't hide behind that. Not for Tasouken (which is reasonable in comparison), not for Saragimaru, not for Tenkai and Sese, and definitely not for BPoHC's hell gauntlet. The problem with Len'en is that it doesn't really work on Easy, let alone Unreal or Absurdly Extra. EE is the only really playable game, because it's almost bullshit-free; it's got problems, it's not god-tier, but it's pretty darn playable. EMS is still somewhat playable but flash bombs start to skirt the bullshit line, and then you have this ABEX here. RMI's entire team system is totally busted and it has an even dumber ABEX somehow. Then you have BPoHC, the total nightmare in every conceivable way that even some Len'en fans are afraid to back up. JynX is a pretty cool dude and he could probably make great patterns *if he just took the time to do so*. He doesn't! His entire policy is to see how much he can do within a given timeframe; he mentions in BPoHC (and probably elsewhere) that nearly all of his songs are done within a day (which is fucking phenomenal). I'm actually okay with that, but it seems like a waste of a great concept, and a project like this will always be a hallmark of terrible design. ZUN got like that too, ever since MoF; he now has an explicit policy of never patching his games unless the game outright crashes miserably. I still don't know how he made tEoSD/PCB/IN, three miracles. MoF/SA/UFO are okay as are DS and FW (second series), but TD/DDC/ISC/LoLK (third series) are all shady for various reasons. Absurdly Extra doesn't need to be a joke difficulty at all. EE is proof of this. JynX simply doesn't care about good design, and as long as you recognize that, things are fine. But if you don't, you're knowingly ignorant and foolish.
I'm a bit surprised you didn't abuse more of that little graze bomb you get, or is it actually counter-productive to spam that everytime it is available?
According to an interview, JynX said that designing Absurdly Extra patterns was his favourite part in designing patterns. ... sigh, why would that be fun if most patterns aren't even meant to be captured? What did he enjoy about it? "mmmmmmm modifying variables to see the gates of hell open is fun" is relatable to me but that's not what I mean. I don't know, complicated thoughts. I'm not mad about ABEX existing, I'm mad that JynX enjoyed making it, which might encourage him to do more xdd
so, quick rundown nons 1, 2, 3, 4: safespot spell 4, 9: probably doable if you manage to pray to RNGesus 12 times a second. sometimes impossible. spell 6, 7, 11, 13: lasers + fast random bullshit for big lulz. completely impossible long-term. nons 5, 6: doable but very bullshit spell 8: when I make a typo in Danmakufu. how is this a thing, obviously impossible. non 7: doable spell 10: Jynx really just said "yeah move in a perfect circular motion and tightdodge 48 lines a second". obviously impossible. non 8: wtf and why, impossible unless you go GODGAMER mode. and even then you can get agregious RNG spell 12: what? this is doabl- wtf is that second phase, Jynx said "hey let's make you dodge Yuuka's final except 12 times harder" overal verdict: the claim "The 10th spellcard is completely impossible" is correct but the claim "clearing this stage would not be possible if that safespot was not there." is wrong. But, it would require absolute perfection, god RNG, and running this game for 4 years straight. lol
My replay gets glitched everytime @ 3:10 :( i cleared this Extra 2 times already but it always gets glitched there (It shows how i die even if i didn´t) i tried renaming the replay in my second run but same problem.. Can you help please? btw. does the safespot in her 10th Spellcard work in normal Extra? (Not in easy)
You know, some of these patterns look like they could be pretty cool... You know, if they were a bit less bullet saturated. Five of those patterns look outright impossible!
Ya really like sparing that flashbomb don't you? Anyways amazing run, the tenth spellcard would be entirely and literally impossible without the safespot, who could even guess that it's there...?!
Friendly reminder to commentors that ABEX is in fact the real Extra, just like how Unreal and Lunatic are the true forms of any given Touhou or Len'en main game. If ABEX fails, everything below it must fail. If Unreal or Lunatic fails, everything below it must fail.
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8:16 - Sacred Treasure ｢The Mirror that Reflects Absurdness｣
10:23 - Sacred Treasure ｢The Sword that Severes the Dificulty Badly｣
11:41 - Divine Grandson ｢Ladder Built Between Possible ---【Really?】｣
12:47 - Transmigration ｢I'm Done｣
13:53 - ｢The Vanishing Cloud that will Never Let You Sleep Ever Again｣
Correct!
gonna do something like this in rmi absurdly extranrq
I'll never complain about ZUN's danmakus again..!
You guys do know there is a normal extra stage right? This is just a beefed ex version for crazy people. There's been plenty "wow this is crappy and disappointing" comments as if this was the actual extra.
Nobody cares that it’s a joke mode because Jynx themself is the punchline. It should not exist on principle.
@@technicolormischief-maker5683 you realize that you have to 1cc unreal to even unlock it right?
95% of players won't ever know it exists in the first place, so what's your point?
"it should not exist on principle"
Neither does your comment but here we are
JynX used Confusion!
It's super effective!
Well, that sure was a thing. Those safespots are pretty funny though.
Maybe the reason the patterns are so...ridiculous might be because the protagonist is DRUNK. Perhaps there really are safe ways to get through these spellcards but because we see things as they do, the cards end up being more unnatural than they would be otherwise.
Touhoupachi Daifukkatsu: Crack Label.
Seriously JynX, no. Unreasonable != Challenging. -_-
Great job on pushing through, Jaimers
It looks really impressive, but mega rotating laser and the amazing spam before are just ridiculous. Oh and that fast rainbow laser and the crazy end of the survival. I guess Jynx was....a jinx.
Man, some of these attacks are pretty damn absurd, nice to look at though
I really hope the people here knew this was a joke difficulty and not the actual Extra lmao.
This is really absurdly.
But for real though, I'm surprised anyone actually managed to clear this stage.
Adagumo no Saragimaru - from easiest bullets ever to most impossible denmaku ever made.
and suddenly RMI, the wierdest shot type ever made (though i can still handle it)
Well, you did ask for something absurdly extra when you chose this extra stage difficulty, so there you go.
Amazing as always, I look foward to more runs :3! Hahaha, this is stupidly amazing, honestly...
Len'en 1: Silly
Len'en 2: Impossible
Len'en 3: Absurdly Stupid Impossible
I bet that Len'en 4 will be the definition of impossible x2 XD
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@@metabunny7693 Len'en 4: Random RNG bullshit that can somehow be beaten by doing absolutely nothing.
10th spell is the most impossible looking to me. Thats got to be hard even for a TAS, without safespot I mean. Actually, it would be interesting to see a TAS run of this.
Anyway this fight was pretty cool and hilarious to watch. I like the music too.
Hahaha that survival card was actually pretty cool until the last ten seconds.
There's a difference between being hard and being flat out unfair and cheap.
Well, it surely isn't an "Absurdly Extra" difficulty for nothing...
My reaction over the whole Time: "I can't see shit!!!!"
But im very intresting, if a perfect Absurdley Extra TAS-Run is possible.
Whoever can made that i really want to see that.
You have to be an Absurdley Touhou player to do that
Wow, what are those patterns.
Absurdly Extra. In a joking sense.
Jesus Crust Jaimers I applaud you for doing such a crazy thing.
None of those spellcards look remotely doable. At all.
arcengal considering all chara, 9/13 spells are possible
well the three midboss spells are doable enough
spell 2 and 3 are definitely doable. spell 1 maybe, but I doubt it. spell 9 probably but you can't really see shit
I like the uniqueness of the difficulty design.
"hi guys i don't know how to good patterns so here is impossible shit because it's funny lolol!"
absurdly extra is a joke difficulty
Something or other Wow, old comment. Anyways, you missed the point. It is a joke mode, but regardless it's there as juxtaposition to the rest of Jynx's mediocre design. Including a mode that is hilariously broken is a common thing amongst new and/or poor designers to hide insecurities: "if people see this thing that's _definitely_ bad, they won't think the stuff I actually put effort into is that bad in comparison", even if that isn't explicitly intended.
Additionally, the _way_ this mode is broken is also illustrative of Jynx not really getting what makes bad design. Again, it's common among people who aren't that good to go straight to the impossible bullshit. It means you don't have to think about what you're doing, and the player dies, so mission accomplished right?
There are definitely such things as good joke modes, even good "unfair" joke modes, but you still need a good design sense in order to know how to go about it properly.
+Vulcapyro That's a seriously cringe-worthy armchair psychologist strawman argument you've got going on there. The ``argument" you made can be also used for Inbachi or any other boss that's too ridiculous to be anything other than pure resource management, and boils down to nothing more than self-righteous rambling about what you consider to be good or bad design, or hell, even a good _joke_.
Funny how the guy who throws out the $10 words sounds like said $10 words. No, CAVE games aren't perfect, but they have literally decades of proof of great work that's almost always pretty fair. Stuff like Inbachi is thrown in there to test players, like every TLB ever has. You'll notice that Inbachi is the second potential bullshit design in a CAVE game after PinkSweets, and players still haven't fully figured Inbachi out yet.
Len'en can't hide behind that. Not for Tasouken (which is reasonable in comparison), not for Saragimaru, not for Tenkai and Sese, and definitely not for BPoHC's hell gauntlet.
The problem with Len'en is that it doesn't really work on Easy, let alone Unreal or Absurdly Extra. EE is the only really playable game, because it's almost bullshit-free; it's got problems, it's not god-tier, but it's pretty darn playable. EMS is still somewhat playable but flash bombs start to skirt the bullshit line, and then you have this ABEX here. RMI's entire team system is totally busted and it has an even dumber ABEX somehow. Then you have BPoHC, the total nightmare in every conceivable way that even some Len'en fans are afraid to back up.
JynX is a pretty cool dude and he could probably make great patterns *if he just took the time to do so*. He doesn't! His entire policy is to see how much he can do within a given timeframe; he mentions in BPoHC (and probably elsewhere) that nearly all of his songs are done within a day (which is fucking phenomenal). I'm actually okay with that, but it seems like a waste of a great concept, and a project like this will always be a hallmark of terrible design.
ZUN got like that too, ever since MoF; he now has an explicit policy of never patching his games unless the game outright crashes miserably. I still don't know how he made tEoSD/PCB/IN, three miracles. MoF/SA/UFO are okay as are DS and FW (second series), but TD/DDC/ISC/LoLK (third series) are all shady for various reasons.
Absurdly Extra doesn't need to be a joke difficulty at all. EE is proof of this. JynX simply doesn't care about good design, and as long as you recognize that, things are fine. But if you don't, you're knowingly ignorant and foolish.
Vulcapyro You want good patterns, try the normal Extra. This is Absurdly Extra.
I'm a bit surprised you didn't abuse more of that little graze bomb you get, or is it actually counter-productive to spam that everytime it is available?
Drunken Light Youkai Giant Beam!
According to an interview, JynX said that designing Absurdly Extra patterns was his favourite part in designing patterns.
... sigh, why would that be fun if most patterns aren't even meant to be captured? What did he enjoy about it? "mmmmmmm modifying variables to see the gates of hell open is fun" is relatable to me but that's not what I mean. I don't know, complicated thoughts.
I'm not mad about ABEX existing, I'm mad that JynX enjoyed making it, which might encourage him to do more xdd
13:55
Spell card: Reversed Illusionary Dominance ftw
so, quick rundown
nons 1, 2, 3, 4: safespot
spell 4, 9: probably doable if you manage to pray to RNGesus 12 times a second. sometimes impossible.
spell 6, 7, 11, 13: lasers + fast random bullshit for big lulz. completely impossible long-term.
nons 5, 6: doable but very bullshit
spell 8: when I make a typo in Danmakufu. how is this a thing, obviously impossible.
non 7: doable
spell 10: Jynx really just said "yeah move in a perfect circular motion and tightdodge 48 lines a second". obviously impossible.
non 8: wtf and why, impossible unless you go GODGAMER mode. and even then you can get agregious RNG
spell 12: what? this is doabl- wtf is that second phase, Jynx said "hey let's make you dodge Yuuka's final except 12 times harder"
overal verdict: the claim "The 10th spellcard is completely impossible" is correct but the claim "clearing this stage would not be possible if that safespot was not there." is wrong. But, it would require absolute perfection, god RNG, and running this game for 4 years straight. lol
Fun as this is to watch, who was Jynx's target audience that he'd think this could actually be done!? (nice work by the way)
8915razer Definitely not casuals
It's a joke difficulty. There ARE these things called "normal extra mode" and "easy extra mode".
Are we sure this isn't supposed to be played with Impossible Spellcard Seija?
Wow, those first four non-spells... You could try a bit harder at aiming there, Salami.
Dood, are you even human? Simply insane
My replay gets glitched everytime @ 3:10 :( i cleared this Extra 2 times already but it always gets glitched there (It shows how i die even if i didn´t) i tried renaming the replay in my second run but same problem..
Can you help please? btw. does the safespot in her 10th Spellcard work in normal Extra? (Not in easy)
5:15 well that escalated quickly...
Get ready for teh NSW ABEX for Len'en 04, Huehuehue
I'd love to see you beat Battletoads.
You know, some of these patterns look like they could be pretty cool... You know, if they were a bit less bullet saturated. Five of those patterns look outright impossible!
There's a mode called Normal Extra you know?
Now perfect it.
Midboss: Monochrome Flandre, Koishi's messing a bit, and Super Marisa.
8:20 Absurd Lesua
And is the boss Absurdly extra Youmu or something?
They are a swordfighter, as is the normal final boss of this game (they're siblings). But they use very different pattern concepts than Youmu.
Has this even been tested?
I assume Jynx has tested this before.
And then, Jynx satisfied. This is crazy enough : P.
Sri skydash I know that Jynx dodges bullets very badly so maybe he used the invincibility mode.
+Sri skydash iirc the beta testers demands a absurdly op extra for them that even jynx cant beat it himself LOL
Ya really like sparing that flashbomb don't you? Anyways amazing run, the tenth spellcard would be entirely and literally impossible without the safespot, who could even guess that it's there...?!
I mean, it's not "would be" because it's still fucking impossible lol
wait why the stage bonus of ex isnt 700k?
so this is the absurdly extra mode boss right? so why are the first few non spells "stand still to survive" attacks?
Because Yabusame thinks at first that spells like this will kill us easily...than she starts *Full Nonsense Undodgable Pattern Mode*.
because it doesn't matter + it's funny as shit
What if you time out the final spell? Does the laser spam expand downward?
He did time out the spell.
I mean, what happen if he time out the final spell without shooting at the boss?
Are the nonspells broken?
mother of bloody pearl............................
do i know you
................
umm no
I know right? Absoulute madness.
8:16無理ゲーすぎる！！
Tfw jynx patched the game and made this even harder to beat
How so? Lumen's 3rd attack is a lot more forgiving, and the rest of the attacks have less health, and the lasers in the final attack descend slower.
Sebastian Lucas density of final spell is completely idiot in 1.20v
7:11
11:41
Friendly reminder to commentors that ABEX is in fact the real Extra, just like how Unreal and Lunatic are the true forms of any given Touhou or Len'en main game. If ABEX fails, everything below it must fail. If Unreal or Lunatic fails, everything below it must fail.
...What are you even going on about? ABEX is a joke mode. The “form” here is Normal EX.
What?
WTF? Is this a joke mode, or did nobody bother to playtest it?
This was actually intended to be a joke difficulty, don't worry.
Wut da...?
Капец чо так долго
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