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Thank you for making the show possible. 🙂 Today we begin our discussion on the work of Friedrich Nietzsche.
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Why do I have eyeballs? Why?!?
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i literally cackled when he said that
YOU FOOL! WHY DO WE KEEP THE MOISTURE
Why is this called a podcast? Why?!?
I first came across Nietzsche in college when i was a prescription drug addict but also very much into philosophy and I instantly fell in love with his ideas in such a romantic way... his works have truly abetted the growth and development of my psychological state in such a therapeutic way.. since then I have overcome my addiction which has scorned me years. I really owe a lot to this man and he will always be a father figure for me. I have such an affinity for him and his ideas that I even try to criticize them as often as i could simply for the sake of being certain that I genuinely do agree with him rather than just blindly accepting his ideas because I know thats quintessential to his philosophy.
Good on you beating your addiction!
@@royeaston6067 I think you are the one with a problem.
A good guru does not make a disciple out you. He gives a taste of what freedom is.A disciple does not hold a guru in captivity by not using the freedom to be, and instead hovering around for another dose of insight. Insight comes maybe ones to even that guru and disciples corrupt the guru for insisting that there is more from where that first insight came from. Grow your seed now and aim to be a one time guru to another suffering human being. Build psychologically if possible to the highest ever known but don’t be tied down by physical growth. That can be destroyed in seconds even though it may have take for ever to bring about. Look at Russia and Ukraine. The psychological strngth in those communities is what must keep them intrested in living.
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What were your fave books of his that helped you out of your addiction?
When Nietzsche is talking about the "death of God" he is talking about the death of humanity's pursuit for objective morality.
Exactly. I don't think Nietzsche was ever anti-God or even an atheist, but rather a strong critic of Christianity at the time.
Maybe he really believed in God.
thanks
I interpreted the declaration of the death of God as the demise of the absolute will, but this is good too.
No, he talked about the decline of Christianity
I think if we contemplate the entire quote, it is easier to see what he was saying, it's so powerful..."God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Yet his shadow still looms. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives; who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves?" I think he is saying we have killed God and Goodness...without this core, unifying presence, we are lost.
2:25 What is the meaning of life/nihilism
3:38 Why people aren't nihilistic (true world theories)
4:03 #1 True world theory. World of forms - Plato (reality is an imperfect representation of these ideal forms)
6:42 #2 True world theory. Christianity (temporary earthly world & eternal heaven)
8:03 #3 True world theory. Hinduism/Buddhism. The individual self is an illusion, everything in the universe is one.
9:34 The similarities between all true world theories (we don't like this world, so we create a more ideal one)
9:56 True world theories are human inventions. People use them to satisfy the unfortunate reality (since god cannot be proven nor disproven, they cling to these ideal human invented realities)
13:00 God is dead (not celebratory, but tragic). Scientific advancements have made these world theories more obsolete and unreasonable to believe in and to satisfy people from the painful reality. These world theories are not the best sign of progress (we forget about this life and focus on the afterlife)
16:55 Christianity and its "slave morality", a herd mentality eliminating individuality, claiming it to be virtuous
18:05 Envy is not a bad thing. It is used for self overcoming
19:35 Christianity is good at rejecting urges and make them evil, a weak character trait, a good Christian
21:48 Nietzsche on alcohol. An escape from reality. A culture in which you are the outcast if you don't drink. "There have been two great narcotics in history: Christianity and alcohol"
24:57 Negative emotions are opportunities for growth
26:30 Our culture manufactures excuses for drinking, to be "happy": get a promotion or get fired, get married or get divorced...
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Never give up, Steven, I love this show!
Omg an alterego of me! Cheers!
This show is fantastic. The intellectual honesty, consistency, and lack of trying to force your own virtues makes for such an objective and engaging session. Definitely will be contributing on patreon, please continue these.
Joe Rogan brought me here. This is terrific looks like I'm going to be binge listening. I hope to get the wife interested in it too
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Incredible. Your precise articulation of Nietzche's thoughts have allowed me to answer questions I've had about the role of religion in society for years. Thank you Stephen, much love.
Every evening for the last year, episodes on Kant, Nietzsche and Spinoza are my favourites. Thanks for putting these rather abstract concepts into such a relatable perspective!
Love these several-part series on particular figures in philosophical history.. short and easy to consume, great stuff
Rogan and Russell, their conversational subjects, are so mentally stimulating! Addicting! Thanks for bringing me here. I think?!?...
This was pure gold! Loved every bit of it. I'm so glad to have found this channel. Thank you so much for your amazing work. Warmth 🧡
Never. Stop. This. Podcast.
Wow. Stephen. You rock! Thank you. You „enlightened“, enriched and widened my horizon - especially on the topic of „envy“ ... It‘s the first time, I heard it like this... Envy as a tool/a hint that can unveil some more about you... like, what you really want (and don‘t have ... Envy, as a possibility to show you, what is important to you... Envy, as a reflection if your needs, cravings, yearnings... Envy, as a mirror - tool of your thoughts, your “illusions”, your visions, your likes... Envy as a possibility to help you, dis-illusion yourself about what you imagined to be like (but are not or are very differently than you display it to others or even make yourself want to believe...). Well, you see how you inspire me to dive in deeper ... and sorry for my very restricted capacity to put my word down in English (German is my mothertongue).
Thanks again, Stephen. You are awesome.
Joe Rogan mentioned this podcast so I thought I’d check it out
Same
gunna have to start from episode 1 mate
What episode he mention it in
I love the way you teach! You help to explain Nietzsche with a spark of spirit that motivates me to learn more! There are so many dull professors out there who are boring in their presentations! But you do an outstanding analysis! I love Nietzsche!
Jre and Bryan Callen brought me here. You the oasis that my 💓 heart was looking for. I had this thurst that could not be quenched. Thank you
Listening to your Spotify podcasts at my bedtime everyday. It really fells ecstatic to go through every philosophy and hand pick the good that suit my daily moods.
i have been searching for a good philosphy podcast for a while. this episode was great mate. good luck
Your videos are absolutely fantastic, thank you for making them
I love your podcast! I love it so much that I would like to translate all your podcasts to Spanish to share the knowledge to my culture.
This is absolutely incredible!!😮 I'm genuinely thankful for your brilliant videos. Please don't ever stop!
Amazing video! Keep up the good work 👌 this is my favourite podcast at the moment
Hey Stephen, I'm a long time listener and a real fan of the show. I happen to be reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra now and really enjoy your thoughts. Thank you sincerely from Tallahassee, FL.
Allow me to express your excellence at this: I've consumed more philosophy online than porn itself, and you're great at this.
This was brilliant ! Freakin love this guy
you should do a duel episode on the allegory of the cave and the simulated reality hypothesis, just a thought love the content.
what a great suggestion, I second this...
awsome!
So you mean Plato and Descartes?
Fantastic episode Stephen! Looking forward to the future parts! Oh and btw I bought one of your shirts ;)
This channel is phenomenal
I love these episodes, I subscribed and noticed these started around episode #072 or so. Where are the rest of the episodes! I noticed in part 4 on Nietzsche you said something about posting a video 3 years ago was it on this channel or another?
Ty steven west this is amazing
Fantastic, precise, concise, condense and informative. That's what we need and that's what this generation of TikTok crap and other social media needs, instead of wasting their time with a very stupid unhealthy stuff.
It fits for social media perfectly...
A very comprehensive explanation on some of Nietzsche’s core points!
Never understood philosophy so clearly.. ☺loved it..
As someone who abstains from alcohol having never tried it before, I really felt that last example hit home.
This guy is amazing
Have you considered doing a podcast on Carl Jung? I was obsessed with Nietzsche and wondered if anybody sought out to build off some of his philosophy/psychology. I soon came to understand that Jung tried to do just that. He dedicated most of his life to addressing the problems that Nietzsche laid out in his works.
That never seeing a perfect triangle in nature was very interesting
Never give up. We support you.
This is WOW!God bless!
At 19:10, when Nietzsche speaks of envy, isn't he looking at the idealistic form of envy like Plato's "tree of treeness"? In the end we can't get away from ideals, perhaps because there is something lurking out there?
love this
Good thing I have ears. I wouldn’t have heard that buffalo sneaking up behind me.
Perfect definition
Great Episode! When is part 2??
Why must i blink? 🤣🤣🤣
10.20 - Well nietzche wud say 'Yeah' !! HAHAHA
Well, sitting down to start this series with a couple beers and a glass of whiskey was a bummer. Thanks for killing the buzz Nietzsche 😜
Love the podcast
I like Nietzsche
And i love your video
Thanks :)
Joe Rogan brought me here. Loving this podcast.
Marxism recognizes that no world is utopian and that even in communism there will be contradictions for society to resolve to create an even better society so that we may drive history. This by Marx's words is called negation-negation theory.
***** Likewise appreciate the reply.
...okay...nobody mentioned Marxism, but whatever.
@@Mark_H101 9:22 pay attention!
Lol wrong in the first sentence. Keep coping idiot. Tell me that lysenkoism is true next and how race doesn’t exist and it’s all MUH CLASS.
i dont know if you still read these comments but you are the by far the greatest philosphy youtube /podcast Ever ........thank you
Was perhaps Nietzsche the most interesting of all philosophers?
but have you met Socrates?
Yes. He stands tall above all others. Hume was pretty based as well tho
From what I think nietzsche was saying, he saw that we created this ideal world and then an ethics reflective of this ideal world to essentially escape the actual world we live in.
He called this ideal ethics a slave ethics, because it stifled individuals from running towards their personal ethics that would drive them to Knowledge and escaping from that mental slavery imposed upon the masses.
Christian thought was a slave thought, because it required individuals to erase their Being and assume the Being that Christianity saw to exist. He felt masses were subject to privilege the ethic and reality Christianity saw as truth.
When he spoke about the rich, the knowledgeable, he spoke on behalf of the german elites who were constantly scrutinized for not adhering to the german nationalist, parochial interests and ideas. He wanted to speak on behalf of germans who were advanced enough to resist the religious and social authoritarianism of his time.
The idea of liberation from the late 19th century authoritarian thinking led him to write ethical, social, Political, religious Analyses that would undermine the forced and coercive regimes that mentally disabled masses from achieving their personal existence. It was like nietzsche felt people had to exist as if they were part of a group but individually non-existent themselves.
Welllll the envy part im not so sure is self taught. I think the media and all other “cultural engineers” have taken envy into consideration as well as our pack mentality, and used that to keep us on the hamster wheel of wanting to have things this person does or looks like the other. Although I do agree envy can be used or should be used in a way to turn your self around but I think we first need to figure out if that’s actually something we desire or just the image we think we should achieve.
hmmm a damning critique of alcohol! Makes you rethink all those beers
Bookmark form me: the envy part from 18:00 to the end
Stopped drinking aby alcohol at all at 17 because of this exact reason.
In regard of Nietzsche relation with alcohol, cant avoid feeling his childhood catholic influence being part of it. I mean, it is clearly a moral judgement, and moreover, a prejudice to say that alcohol consumption antagonices with philosophy or with being concious about your life. I mean, clearly if you are wasted theres little more than a toilet in your mind, but that doesnt mean that alcohol cannot have creative edges, or even just "fun" edges. And i dont think Nietzsche could have been against creative exploration or fun: thus, i cannot imagine him being a big drinker so to actually be aware of alcohol efects.
I dig this. Holler Rogan
Where is episode #001 and further episodes?
Hello! This is super random but I just finished the show Evangelion and am wondering if by chance you had seen it, if so any comments on the philosophy in it?
Predatory buffalo. Characters in Steven's allegories makes me smile 😁
Finally, we did it boys. 90 episodes deep and we've reached Nietzsche!
"why are my eyeballs wet?" Have you ever met a 4 year old!???
Guy liner streams down my pasty white face....that's rad
Now I’m thinking about eyeballs.
True world manufacturing vs noble lie? Great content
What is the nature of subjectivity according to Stephen West?
12:57
Very therapeutic at night
This is great but when I drink (which is relatively rare) my good times stretch WAAAAAY longer than 2-4 hours.
i subbed
I am now severely dissatisfied with the nature of my existence, having never heard predatory buffalo sneaking up behind me. Are my ears defective? Are the buffalo really good hiders??? What is the meaning of all this?!?!?
Rogan gets the credit for my being here also, as the next comment below states. I'm happy to find this knowing however I'll find problems with assumptions as I'm already doing. For one, a pretty quick patter of assumptions as the cliches' of provinciality is raced over but then I hear some criticism which I am carrying pass by and the irony follows leaving me with a bag of bricks to carry, I try and work this out and lose the thread of what I was looking into originally. As to proving God, can you prove there is no elephant in the room, you can prove one cannot be found and within reason even the absence using any modern method but ultimately with our knowledge of quantum findings of some unique findings you may not be able to prove anything forever in any one realm, thus there is no solid acceptance of our elephant not existing, no?
I always wondered why am I am human and not some insect...or some bacteria. Well some would argue I am
I read part of his book got bored and stopped. He was droning on and on about the drama
Yes, the human conditions are alike and it's not surprising that they would have reached the same conclusions because the experiences are the same.
Prakhar ke Pravachan brought me here.... ❤️
If all standards are self defined; including Christianity, an imagined value structure of a true world, then every “best” version is equal. The issue for Nietzsche, imo, is two fold: 1) He fails to realize this of his own value structure, and 2) it offers no “why” reason other than living to live, which is, both in principle and fact, doomed; rearranging chairs on a sinking ship as fast as you can before you succumb to the depths.
Joe Rogan and Russel Brand brought me here
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"God is DEAD !" (Nietzsche) "Nietzsche is dead !" (God) "How could God be dead ? God has NEVER lived ! Nietzsche, on the other hand, did !" (freely after Osho)
I can't help but notice that it is not Nietzsche himself that gives the "God is dead. And we have killed him." speech. Nietzsche puts those words in the mouth of a CLOWN, who is laughed at by the crowd because they, like me, don't see any problem. Speaking for myself, the problem _I_ see is that we are STILL cleaning up the mess left over from having involved gods where they don't belong, eg morality.
Hello everyone. I just wanted to point out that the narrators first example is incorrect. The narrator says that humans don't sit there and think about stuff like their eyes and how they're made and how they function and all that stuff, because we have concrete evidence as to how our eyes work.
Does the narrator not realize that it takes experimentation in order to figure things out like the human body?
Hehe! You said “tree-nis”
A thing just happened, let’s drink
You will never find deep fulfilment through envy of another's person or property.. Ironically the only 'ones' to be envied or rather copied are those who transcend ego.. Alcohol, cars, houses, attractive women and men are all open to shallow profit chasing advertising-all soulless and empty.. Nietzsche went nuts lets not forget..
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I was on board until you got to the bit on alcohol. 4 hours is legend status? That’s called pre-gaming in some circles. But cool uploads anyway.
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Tldl: Nietzsche didn’t like copes.
Can I say I read someone talk about evolution and that to evolve such a delicate eye as the human eye, does not make sense from an evolutionary standpoint especially when of all the organs our eyes by far use the most energy to work. So I have spent many a night wondering about it.
Good new dude you can just look at the genome now. Races are considerably different. Cope however you want about that.
@@GhGh-gq8oo I'm very interested in crispr and the mapping of the human genome, which does not prove anything about evolution in fact it raises the most important questions as key sequences look like they've been removed or tampered with suggesting we were created and not evolved at all.
Interesting. I didn’t realise that Nietzsche was not into booze.
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God is a masculine word in german, there’s no way to say “god is dead, we killed it” without making god a him
HEy i was wondering. I've started listening to the podcast but the first two episode the music is str8 cringy. When does it stop ? I'm in between downloading all the podcast and taking time to delete the music.
I think the content is that great actually. I'm ready to spend some hours deleting all the music to enjoy it free of it