Two details i'd add, Miyabi M2 gives the ability to generate fallen frost (The stacks for her strongest attack) to be generated by a full basic attack chain. Usually you have to proc some sort of anomaly or disorder to gain stacks of fallen frost but with M2 you can just unload with basic attacks and generate them really fast. and also for PC players, if you're family are annoyed of hearing your constant infernal clicking on this game, Lighter actually plays by holding down the button instead of spam clicking. He's much quieter. And surprisingly his punches are very AoE. Far more than you think they would be.
Another great video! Love how well you explain everything without preaching! You say what you like about a character and how they work. So many videos go down a patronizing 'DO THIS OR ELSE' route. Keep it up :)
I want Ellen w-engine, but if she's sharing banner with Astra, I'll be missing that w-engine again. At 8:05 you mention that caesar is the first to introduce a parry mechanic, but that's not true. She might be the first S-Rank to get the parry mechanic, but Ben Bigger was first. Ben mains rise up!!
@@freak39cauze I looked into it because I didn't remember actually receiving damage with Ben during a parry. Turns out while Ben is activating his Block, he's completely invulnerable, negating all damage with it.
i only heard of zzz when jane doe edits popped up and i really loved her character design and how the game looked but i was too invested in playing genshin at the moment so i didnt download it but then i saw burnices trailer and watched jane does and other trailers and thought "well that is super awesome, now i really want to try it". the game kept me hooked from the start and i really wanted to get burnice but lost my 50/50. i did not like yanagis office outfit but her playstyle looked fun so im glad i pulled her. i did not want lighter when i saw the leaks at first but his story and the event where you could yadayadayadayada with him made me change my mind. the ep was only the cherry on top, i pulled him for the coolness and for my s11 and i dont regret it. i was scared that i wouldnt get miyabi, the character i looked most forward to but i grinded a lot and got her. now i hope i will get lucky for astra aswell as she is looking really dope!! i also still want jane and burnice, my most beloved characters aside from miyabi. this game is just packed with so many cool characters that i love and everything from gameplay, animation to story is so awesome. i cant find a single thing i dont enjoy in this game and it makes me want to quit genshin for making me skip dialogue again and again when i can just play something that i fully enjoy instead and use my remaining time otherwise
I am a new player and I started playing during the last week of Burnice's banner. The rerun I am looking forward to most is Caesar King. I have saved up 96 Encrypted tapes to ensure unlocking her is a certainty..
I still think it's crazy that your m6 Ellen is only JUUUST better than m0 Miyabi But I mostly just came here to comment about how amazing Burnice is! Every time she comes back for a rerun, I will continue my quest to get her at m6
Tempted to pull copies and take each banner from A0 to A2 on re-runs, just to unlock some QOL as I enjoy using them all, but considering that new banners will just keep streaming in I might just continue only focusing on new ones. Also need to consider whether to bother with collecting skins, which I kinda don't see the point of. Skins are an MMO element that lets you flex on people that don't own them so unless they unlock some sort of ability outside of just extra particle effects, I'll likely just meh and move on. An interesting idea on making skins useful without being too OP is perhaps allowing the equipped agent to drop any team synergy requirements so they can play in any team?
I pulled for Yanagi and accidentally got Miyabi later on. I think I am set for now. On what I might pull is Astra as she looks so fun, Janes Signature and maybe Ceasar as she will buff my Corin
Tbh I don't really see a way they could massively powercreep Caesar without just stealing her kit and buffing it lol Caesar's EX basically has infinite up-time and can be reapplied easily while also giving some of the best buffs in the current game state (even if you include Astra). She will probably hold her value for a while, like Zhongli and Adventurine. Also her kit revolves around parrying, which IMO is the most fun gimmick out of all the agents. I have M1, and deffff planning to try and get her M3 so I can get her banner 🙏
We will be able to pull on the rerun banners ONLY if they make them cheaper than a usual banner character or give them when you pull on the main event banner or something. Otherwise it wont be happening. And lets say they make it that wasy, you still need ton of materials and dennies to build them. I guess it's probably a good idea to start gathering materials and polychromes for 2.0 patch and onwards, because most of 1.x characters will become obsolete anyways except maybe a few.
Going from their previous title any discount for a rerun banner will Not be happening. In time most characters will be phased out but Genshin and HSR still has alot of the OG units that are usable to this day, so i'm hopeful most of the 1.x lot will have many years ahead of em'
@@HakoCity In ZZZ it is not just being powercrept in the same sense as other Hoyo gacha games, but having to need the perfect gear + world chamion perfect skills and execution to make the character works and/or having some of the mindscapes on top of that. Deadly Assault s a perfect example of that if you dont have the S ranks that makes it a nobrainer. Also the game does extremely poorly in teaching you all of the important stuff/mechanics so you can at least try to perform.
I'm going to wait with reruns and mindscapes/w-engines. I don't want to make a big mistake LOL. Let's see where the path leads first. I was tempted to go for Jane M1, but people here are already saying their M6 Ellen can't keep up. So where does it lead... idk. Let's see. I hope not the HSR route.
As an M6 Ellen enjoyer i can tell you that she still trivializes every content in the game, recent Shiyu she got done in 40 sec and we got 5mins to clear both sides. M1 Miyabi is slightly stronger than her tho D: But Miyabi also eats and poops out every piece of content even at M0 And honestly with Janes current level i cannot fathom that she'd be too weak to S-rank any content in the coming 2-3 years.
Caesar was one of my favourite characters from the launch video but by the time she came out other characters I wanted more were being annouced/leaked so I skipped her. Qingyi would also be awesome to get but i like her design less. So yh Caesar is my main rerun priority. I have Zhu Yuan, Jane, Lighter and Miyabi and im probably going for Evelyn? So its just a matter of making sure to save pulls for the inevitable rerun
I started when Caesar was the banner so I was unable to get her but got burnice instead. I’d probably try and get Jane or Zhu Xhuan if they got rerun, I found zhu yuan to be a lot of fun when the game let you do trial usage. I also really enjoy Nicole’s gameplay so I imagine they’d be fun together
I'm pulling Astra, skipping Evelyn, and getting Qingyi on Rerun depending on if the next agents don't impress me much. I wanted Jane but she doesn't really agree with my parry and swap heavy playstyle. I also think pulling Ellen even if you have Miyabi is worth it, as a lot of enemies in the game are Ethereal units which have ice vulnerability. The current Deadly Assault cycle features two bosses weak to Ice (Bringer and Marrionettes) and having two solid Ice teams is great if you don't have ZY.
w-engies are most temtpint to pull. Zhu Yuan's w-engine the most since I love her and the weapon would be a real boost to keep her competative with other teams. And Ceasar because, let's be totally honest, none of the defense engines really work for her. And I don't relish the thought of slapping a stunner engine on her. But I love playing her for her active parry mostly.
I just hope I dislike the new characters when Yanagi and Jane Doe rerun. As a low spender, I can’t get everything and I usually don’t get weapons or cinemas past C0. Those two are the characters I want the most right now. I love both of them for many many reasons. I just started right before 1.4 at the end of 1.3. I thought I wanted Burnice when I started playing. Now that I’ve played all characters I know I 100% need Yanagi. She is by far my favorite character. Her combat feels and looks so good and the disorder she throws on enemies is crazy. I’ve also changed my mind about Yanagi’s design. Maybe it’s the jiggle physics, but something changed for me. I think Yanagi looks soooo good. I’d probably skip characters I really want for Yanagi. I also have Miyabi, and she pairs well with other anomaly characters.
I agree with this sentiment - reruns can be tricky, if the one you have been waiting for to come back also comes out with someone brand new and shiny that you might want! The dilemma!!! I have my heart set on getting Burnice to m6 but as I am free to play, I only have her at m1 so far with her engine, so I still have a long way to go
It's possible that ZZZ might focus more on ether damage in the future, so I was thinking of snatching a copy of Zhu Yuan on her rerun, but because of the way Mihoyo typically does power creep, it might be best to wait for the next ether attacker/anomaly unit. 🤔 Definitely going for C1 for Qingyi, Jane and Caesar though. rip polychromes 😆
Yah i defo think that Ether anomaly might be on the table in the near future! By the time Zhu comes around we should have some info what 1.6 has in store!
I'm probably not getting any reruns because I already have all the limited characters I actually wanted. Jane might be really strong, but I don't really care for her. Maybe by the time Lighter comes back I might roll for him, if and only if his rerun happens far away from newer characters I really want. I agree that Ellen still remains one of the most unique and fun units to play. Mine is M0 and I do have Miyabi as well, yet I still brought my Ellen in my latest Deadly Assault clear. My advice to anyone who wants to build her or someone like Soldier 11: do not cut corners on levelling up and building your support and stun units, because they make a huge difference in how an attack agent will perform. It's absolutely night and day. Qingyi, as long as you learn how to properly use her, is imo by far the most fun stun character to use, because she has a lot of tools in her move set to deal with really aggressive enemies. The fact that she also stuns fast and amplifies damage during the stun window makes her that much more valuable. You said everything about Caesar and I agree with every word. Same for Burnice. Yanagi is probably my favourite unit in the game to play on field. Knowing when to keep attacking, when to switch stances, and when to dodge makes the experience of on-fielding her against difficult bosses extremely rewarding and satisfying. And if Yanagi is my favourite on-fielder, Miyabi is my favourite quickswap partner for Yanagi, though most people will see it the other way around lol. You're right when you say she's a powerhouse, but what I like most about her is just how much you can leverage the copious amount of i-frames in her move set. Harumasa is stronger than people give him credit for, but playing him at his full potential requires highly technical play and quite frankly I understand why most people won't put that much effort into learning him.
currently at 40 pity and i have 130 wishes rn, after getting miyabi and doing some research im planning to pull astra yao, and burnice over yanagi, why because burnice is way more fun to me, miyabi is so strong at m0w1 that i rather have fun with burnice and lucy team, wish me luck on both 50/50s! if i have wishes left ill toss them all to yanagi but astra and burnice are a must for me!
Sorry Pheonix i should've touched upon that, Engines will have their own banners just like how it was for the characters initial banner. And the rates will be the same :)
As you guessed, as reruns are concerned the one I look forward to most is Jane. Outside of her looks, I like her personality and her gameplay. That will be a great pull for my enjoyment. Burnice also looks amazing, and I’d like Zhu Yuan and Qingyi but I don’t know if my polychromes will survive.
I started in 1.4 and got miyabi. I want Ellen, Qingyi and Lighter. I got Rina from standart so i thought i would make a team for harumasa in future (because im building a miyabi team now) but from what you said, i don't wanna make a harumasa team now. I don't want to keep swapping between characters and after miyabi, i don't want to try hard characters and keep up their combos. Maybe i build him eventually but Ellen and Lighter peeks my interest more. I wanted Qingyi for an electric team that i wanna make with rina but im not sure now.
I dont go for Any Reruns. Maybe Yanagi depending on how important she is at that Time for Miyabi. Looking at Hoyos Past Games they dont have a really good Trackrecord when it comes to relevance for 1.x Units once 2.0 Launched. Even though ZZZ did a good Job in Terms of Balancing so far but i Stick to Barney Stinson : " New is always better"
I think for people who are new, thinking about comfortability/meta you should pull for caesar, then you can go for lighter. I picked these two since i think theyre the ones who will still be relevant even in later patches without being powercrept so much. tho at the end pull for who you want guys, i pull every waifu so ye i skipped lighter.
so its really confirmed were getting reruns starting with Ellen and Zhu Yuan oh boy my 176 pulls might not be enough there's just so many characters what am i gonna need 500 pulls or some crap lol I still want Zhu Yuan, Evelyn, and Astra Im still trying to decide if I should skip Astra or not and I have a 50/50 unless I pull on Miyabi's banner again and lose 50/50 then I would have guaranteed but I'd still be using pulls
For me its Qingyi and Lighter. Both are really cool and nice to play, And I could also really use Qingi for my Haru/Zhu teams, And Lighter just because well... He's Lighter not much to say lol. And I just think its a good idea to have any dazer you want rdy whenever you want too even tho the meta currently favors anomaly characters every team can use them and I learned that having flexibility and comfortableness by far outweigh anything which dazers provide except if u play Anby she a ho! xD I genuinely think getting every dazer would be a good idea in the long run but only time will tell. if I can sqeuueze in another character I would probably pick Ceaser, I already proved to myself I can beat anything with Anby im tired let me rest with Ceaser xD
There's really only a few agents that I'm interested in when their rerun comes. 1. Jane Doe- She's the reason I started playing the damn game. Unfortunately, I started 2 days before her banner ended. I failed to get enough pulls to get Jane. When she comes back, I am going deep and hard for her and her wengine. 2. Caesar's engine- Got 1 copy of her after failing to get Jane. She's been the backbone of my Piper team and the core member of my Premium team. I think she deserves the best and I am getting that engine of hers for that reason. The others that I 'might' roll for are Burnice and Lighter. I like them but I'm fine without them. And maybe another copy of Miyabi coz why the hell not. But this depends on who they are paired with. If the main highlight is someone I want, then these 3 will have to take the back seat. The rest are skips.
Jane Doe is a must at least for M2 as what I want to do but the other agents from 1.1 or 1.2 I need them like (Zhu Yuan and Qingyi). Overall good luck with pulls in future 😅🙌
I want Ellen but I can't justify pulling on a character that will never get play because of power creep. Very sad to see such a cool character become irrelevant prior to the rerun.
One thing I have learned about zzz is : "anomaly units are mandatory, attack units are weaker in every single aspect and will be outdone by every new anomaly that gets released" So If any new player asked me for advice, the most honest advice I would say is : - skip attackers because they'r underwhelming and WILL be outdone by their anomaly counterparts - skip stunners because they'r only needed for attackers - get the supports/shielders that go with your team - get EVERY anomaly unit. It's not a choice, it's an obligation. I am a person that pulled for Ellen and have seen her fall into irrelevecy becasue of Miyabi, I am a person that skipped Burnice and have been PUNISHED by the game for it by suffering throu the pompey boss in deadly assault. This advice is what I wish I could have told my past self when I started the game.
It remains to be seen if Anomaly will indeed be obligatory in the future. HoYo has previously hard countered units in Genshin before, it wouldn't suprise me if in the future we get enemies where Anomaly units are straight up useless against. Also, it really depends on the stunner, Lighter is an amazing unit in Miyabi and Burnice teams, despite not triggering Miyabi's Additional Ability, it can actually out damage Yanagi comps thanks to his buffs
I agree, but stunners will inevitably become pseudo supports, so I wouldn't skip on all of them. Some folks say Anomaly units won't always dominate, but I don't see how Attacker units can succeed when we have DPS units like Miyabi that can do both anomaly and Burst attack. But my advice for new players, invest in supports, unique dps (not normal burst dps) like anomaly or better yet hybrids.
The things you said about anomaly is also true for DoT or the destruction class in Honkai star rail, and look what happend to them now. Idk why people surprised that anomaly is better now since they’ve been only releasing anomaly character recently, and the buffs for deadly assault and Shitu defense heavily favors Anomaly, except for the ones with Lighter. The meta in these games can change easily, and they are in control of that.
guys if im being honest this is NOT the mindset to have. feeling like your obligated to pull a unit u dont even like will make the game unfun. give zzz a break, the game just came out a few months ago and its roster is still growing. i doubt theyll leave attackers in the dust and theyll eventually buff them. anomaly just feels super strong right now because theyre the newest agents and the endgame modes buff them. especially miyabi, but shes rightfully strong because shes a void hunter. ellen isnt unusable right now, yall are stressing too much about powercreep. now this would be different for HSR because they have a genuine powercreep problem, but its mostly because of the gameplay style. zzz allows more flexibility because your able to dodge and tech stuff. in conclusion, PULL FOR WHO U FIND FUN. accept that you cant get every new shiny character in the game and just have fun.
@capupccino Exactly this. Prioritize getting characters you enjoy rather than whatever dictates the meta, especially if you already have a stable account with good characters
i really like ellen, but OH MY GOD miyabi outclasses her so hard its not funny. miyabi is gonna stay one of the best units in the game, probably for the games entire runtime, unless they nerf her, which mihoyo doesnt really do.
Just keep in mind, never ever pull on a rerun banner unless it's a support. So look out for ceaser and burnice reruns. Every other character is likely to be replaced soon after or are already replaced. Like with any hoyo game I would not even recommend pulling for a re-run banner of a hyper-carry either. If miyabi is on a re-run, her replacement is close by. That's how these games get ya. You only get 1 chance to pull copies of a hyper carry and that is at their launch at least from a pattern recognition standpoint.
@@ahahaha580 We have yet to see how difficulty spikes will be implemented but considering how HI3, and HSR implements their power creep I would still be cautious until all of the complexity rears itself in full.
Two details i'd add,
Miyabi M2 gives the ability to generate fallen frost (The stacks for her strongest attack) to be generated by a full basic attack chain. Usually you have to proc some sort of anomaly or disorder to gain stacks of fallen frost but with M2 you can just unload with basic attacks and generate them really fast.
and also for PC players, if you're family are annoyed of hearing your constant infernal clicking on this game,
Lighter actually plays by holding down the button instead of spam clicking. He's much quieter.
And surprisingly his punches are very AoE. Far more than you think they would be.
Another great video! Love how well you explain everything without preaching! You say what you like about a character and how they work. So many videos go down a patronizing 'DO THIS OR ELSE' route. Keep it up :)
PEOPLE ALWAYS HYPED YANAGI CUZ SHE WILL BE A GOOD TEAM MATE FOR MIYABI, BUT THE REAL TRUTH IS BURNICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN "THE ONE"
Killed bringer 60k with miyabi burince and nicole super team!
I love Burnice cause brainrot, but Yanagi is total milf. I'm sad I returned after her banner ended. 😭
Im using Yanagi in mono electro team without problems too
No,u don’t know why Hype yanagi 😂
Miyabi, Burnice and Lucy team is isane.
Bro, just met your channel and i already love it. Please, keep up this unique style of yours. 👊
Yindigo! I appreciate the hell outta ya
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The difference between ellen m6 artwork and m6 miyabi artwork is staggering.
Especially considering the first one is underage and the second one is an adult.
@@ahlemlora1452 wdym
I want Ellen w-engine, but if she's sharing banner with Astra, I'll be missing that w-engine again.
At 8:05 you mention that caesar is the first to introduce a parry mechanic, but that's not true. She might be the first S-Rank to get the parry mechanic, but Ben Bigger was first. Ben mains rise up!!
Technically he's right. Usually parries negate all damage, while Ben reduces incoming damage. It varies per game, but it's generally like this
@@freak39cauze I looked into it because I didn't remember actually receiving damage with Ben during a parry. Turns out while Ben is activating his Block, he's completely invulnerable, negating all damage with it.
Shiiit how could i do our boy Ben like that, i'm sorry Ben q.q
Ben mains the illest.
umm no? if you time it right ben takes 0 dmg even to his sheild @@freak39cauze
i only heard of zzz when jane doe edits popped up and i really loved her character design and how the game looked but i was too invested in playing genshin at the moment so i didnt download it but then i saw burnices trailer and watched jane does and other trailers and thought "well that is super awesome, now i really want to try it". the game kept me hooked from the start and i really wanted to get burnice but lost my 50/50. i did not like yanagis office outfit but her playstyle looked fun so im glad i pulled her. i did not want lighter when i saw the leaks at first but his story and the event where you could yadayadayadayada with him made me change my mind. the ep was only the cherry on top, i pulled him for the coolness and for my s11 and i dont regret it. i was scared that i wouldnt get miyabi, the character i looked most forward to but i grinded a lot and got her. now i hope i will get lucky for astra aswell as she is looking really dope!! i also still want jane and burnice, my most beloved characters aside from miyabi. this game is just packed with so many cool characters that i love and everything from gameplay, animation to story is so awesome. i cant find a single thing i dont enjoy in this game and it makes me want to quit genshin for making me skip dialogue again and again when i can just play something that i fully enjoy instead and use my remaining time otherwise
“Aim for m2 aim for m4” bro talks like we sit on gold bars
I don't believe i even once said that anybody should aim for M2 or M4 of a character?
He didn’t say aim for them he said if you get them to that level however you don’t necessarily HAVE to get them to m2 or m4
He buffs Ice and Fire becacuse its a reference to K' and Kula Diamond from KoF
Godsend channel, even tho i've played the game since launce so i know all this already, but very helpful and good information, bell and subbed
Thank you for the kind words friend, appreciate it!
I am a new player and I started playing during the last week of Burnice's banner.
The rerun I am looking forward to most is Caesar King.
I have saved up 96 Encrypted tapes to ensure unlocking her is a certainty..
Bro the fact that we both started playing at the he exact same time and want the same characters is crazy
Did u skip miyabi
@@MuniC-z8c nah I got miyabi M1 even
I love that! Welcome to the gang Z! Any questions you throw them our way
Maybe I'll go for Zhu Yuan's M1 when the time comes, but far from certain. It'll depend on what new agents are on the banner with her.
I still think it's crazy that your m6 Ellen is only JUUUST better than m0 Miyabi
But I mostly just came here to comment about how amazing Burnice is! Every time she comes back for a rerun, I will continue my quest to get her at m6
Tempted to pull copies and take each banner from A0 to A2 on re-runs, just to unlock some QOL as I enjoy using them all, but considering that new banners will just keep streaming in I might just continue only focusing on new ones. Also need to consider whether to bother with collecting skins, which I kinda don't see the point of.
Skins are an MMO element that lets you flex on people that don't own them so unless they unlock some sort of ability outside of just extra particle effects, I'll likely just meh and move on. An interesting idea on making skins useful without being too OP is perhaps allowing the equipped agent to drop any team synergy requirements so they can play in any team?
Can't wait to pull for Zhu Yuan
I pulled for Yanagi and accidentally got Miyabi later on. I think I am set for now.
On what I might pull is Astra as she looks so fun, Janes Signature and maybe Ceasar as she will buff my Corin
You had me at ”Buff my Corin”
Corin enjoyers rise up!
I can’t wait to M6 Caesar when she reruns.
She is Such a Blast! Best of luck
Tbh I don't really see a way they could massively powercreep Caesar without just stealing her kit and buffing it lol Caesar's EX basically has infinite up-time and can be reapplied easily while also giving some of the best buffs in the current game state (even if you include Astra). She will probably hold her value for a while, like Zhongli and Adventurine. Also her kit revolves around parrying, which IMO is the most fun gimmick out of all the agents. I have M1, and deffff planning to try and get her M3 so I can get her banner 🙏
Depending on the new characters their paired with, I’d like to grab Yanagi’s & Burnice’s W-Engines
Honestly Yanagis w-engine is something I’d also consider, didn’t get it the first time around
We will be able to pull on the rerun banners ONLY if they make them cheaper than a usual banner character or give them when you pull on the main event banner or something. Otherwise it wont be happening. And lets say they make it that wasy, you still need ton of materials and dennies to build them. I guess it's probably a good idea to start gathering materials and polychromes for 2.0 patch and onwards, because most of 1.x characters will become obsolete anyways except maybe a few.
Going from their previous title any discount for a rerun banner will Not be happening. In time most characters will be phased out but Genshin and HSR still has alot of the OG units that are usable to this day, so i'm hopeful most of the 1.x lot will have many years ahead of em'
@@HakoCity In ZZZ it is not just being powercrept in the same sense as other Hoyo gacha games, but having to need the perfect gear + world chamion perfect skills and execution to make the character works and/or having some of the mindscapes on top of that. Deadly Assault s a perfect example of that if you dont have the S ranks that makes it a nobrainer. Also the game does extremely poorly in teaching you all of the important stuff/mechanics so you can at least try to perform.
@@dreamk33per56 you got this. Don't give up. Get good
Awesome heavy accent!
I’m saving for Astra and Yanagi rerun ❤
Astra coming next update tho?
I'm going to wait with reruns and mindscapes/w-engines. I don't want to make a big mistake LOL. Let's see where the path leads first. I was tempted to go for Jane M1, but people here are already saying their M6 Ellen can't keep up. So where does it lead... idk. Let's see. I hope not the HSR route.
As an M6 Ellen enjoyer i can tell you that she still trivializes every content in the game, recent Shiyu she got done in 40 sec and we got 5mins to clear both sides. M1 Miyabi is slightly stronger than her tho D: But Miyabi also eats and poops out every piece of content even at M0 And honestly with Janes current level i cannot fathom that she'd be too weak to S-rank any content in the coming 2-3 years.
I wasnt able to pull Zhu Yuan so im going to try for her again, outside of her I absolutely love Caesar and Burnice so I aim to M6 them.
Caesar was one of my favourite characters from the launch video but by the time she came out other characters I wanted more were being annouced/leaked so I skipped her. Qingyi would also be awesome to get but i like her design less. So yh Caesar is my main rerun priority. I have Zhu Yuan, Jane, Lighter and Miyabi and im probably going for Evelyn? So its just a matter of making sure to save pulls for the inevitable rerun
I started when Caesar was the banner so I was unable to get her but got burnice instead. I’d probably try and get Jane or Zhu Xhuan if they got rerun, I found zhu yuan to be a lot of fun when the game let you do trial usage. I also really enjoy Nicole’s gameplay so I imagine they’d be fun together
Pretty much what I’m doing aswell I need thick booty zhu xhuan 😂
I'm pulling Astra, skipping Evelyn, and getting Qingyi on Rerun depending on if the next agents don't impress me much. I wanted Jane but she doesn't really agree with my parry and swap heavy playstyle.
I also think pulling Ellen even if you have Miyabi is worth it, as a lot of enemies in the game are Ethereal units which have ice vulnerability. The current Deadly Assault cycle features two bosses weak to Ice (Bringer and Marrionettes) and having two solid Ice teams is great if you don't have ZY.
w-engies are most temtpint to pull. Zhu Yuan's w-engine the most since I love her and the weapon would be a real boost to keep her competative with other teams. And Ceasar because, let's be totally honest, none of the defense engines really work for her. And I don't relish the thought of slapping a stunner engine on her. But I love playing her for her active parry mostly.
I would like to know where to purchase a Rabbit horn please sir
You take a left at... Arpeggio Fault >:D
Rabbit! I am still laughing!!
Swedish rabbits are just built different
I just hope I dislike the new characters when Yanagi and Jane Doe rerun. As a low spender, I can’t get everything and I usually don’t get weapons or cinemas past C0.
Those two are the characters I want the most right now. I love both of them for many many reasons.
I just started right before 1.4 at the end of 1.3. I thought I wanted Burnice when I started playing. Now that I’ve played all characters I know I 100% need Yanagi. She is by far my favorite character. Her combat feels and looks so good and the disorder she throws on enemies is crazy.
I’ve also changed my mind about Yanagi’s design. Maybe it’s the jiggle physics, but something changed for me. I think Yanagi looks soooo good. I’d probably skip characters I really want for Yanagi. I also have Miyabi, and she pairs well with other anomaly characters.
I agree with this sentiment - reruns can be tricky, if the one you have been waiting for to come back also comes out with someone brand new and shiny that you might want! The dilemma!!!
I have my heart set on getting Burnice to m6 but as I am free to play, I only have her at m1 so far with her engine, so I still have a long way to go
@ personally I don’t think I’d ever do that for any character, but if you really like her then you really like her…
It's possible that ZZZ might focus more on ether damage in the future, so I was thinking of snatching a copy of Zhu Yuan on her rerun, but because of the way Mihoyo typically does power creep, it might be best to wait for the next ether attacker/anomaly unit. 🤔 Definitely going for C1 for Qingyi, Jane and Caesar though. rip polychromes 😆
Then you might want to check out for ver. 1.6 since its highly likely idol faction got 1 ether anomaly character on that patch
Yah i defo think that Ether anomaly might be on the table in the near future! By the time Zhu comes around we should have some info what 1.6 has in store!
zzz is the only game where i want all of the characters
Literally. In most gachas I have no problem skipping banners, but chars in this are too good for that q.q
I'm probably not getting any reruns because I already have all the limited characters I actually wanted. Jane might be really strong, but I don't really care for her. Maybe by the time Lighter comes back I might roll for him, if and only if his rerun happens far away from newer characters I really want.
I agree that Ellen still remains one of the most unique and fun units to play. Mine is M0 and I do have Miyabi as well, yet I still brought my Ellen in my latest Deadly Assault clear. My advice to anyone who wants to build her or someone like Soldier 11: do not cut corners on levelling up and building your support and stun units, because they make a huge difference in how an attack agent will perform. It's absolutely night and day.
Qingyi, as long as you learn how to properly use her, is imo by far the most fun stun character to use, because she has a lot of tools in her move set to deal with really aggressive enemies. The fact that she also stuns fast and amplifies damage during the stun window makes her that much more valuable.
You said everything about Caesar and I agree with every word. Same for Burnice.
Yanagi is probably my favourite unit in the game to play on field. Knowing when to keep attacking, when to switch stances, and when to dodge makes the experience of on-fielding her against difficult bosses extremely rewarding and satisfying.
And if Yanagi is my favourite on-fielder, Miyabi is my favourite quickswap partner for Yanagi, though most people will see it the other way around lol. You're right when you say she's a powerhouse, but what I like most about her is just how much you can leverage the copious amount of i-frames in her move set.
Harumasa is stronger than people give him credit for, but playing him at his full potential requires highly technical play and quite frankly I understand why most people won't put that much effort into learning him.
Cant wait for jane caesar and burnice
currently at 40 pity and i have 130 wishes rn, after getting miyabi and doing some research im planning to pull astra yao, and burnice over yanagi, why because burnice is way more fun to me, miyabi is so strong at m0w1 that i rather have fun with burnice and lucy team, wish me luck on both 50/50s! if i have wishes left ill toss them all to yanagi but astra and burnice are a must for me!
Regretted skipping Caesar, plan on getting her & possibly Lighter if i get Evelyn in 1.5
Hope Qingyi doesn't rerun as the same time as a new husbando, I need her for Harumasa
Why is no one mentioning about w-engines rerun? Are going to be purchased directly or need to be pulled. I am lost ...
Sorry Pheonix i should've touched upon that, Engines will have their own banners just like how it was for the characters initial banner. And the rates will be the same :)
Started on Lighter's Banner and skiped him. Picked up Miyabi and only want Ceasar and maybe Jane Doe.
As you guessed, as reruns are concerned the one I look forward to most is Jane. Outside of her looks, I like her personality and her gameplay. That will be a great pull for my enjoyment. Burnice also looks amazing, and I’d like Zhu Yuan and Qingyi but I don’t know if my polychromes will survive.
I started in 1.4 and got miyabi. I want Ellen, Qingyi and Lighter. I got Rina from standart so i thought i would make a team for harumasa in future (because im building a miyabi team now) but from what you said, i don't wanna make a harumasa team now. I don't want to keep swapping between characters and after miyabi, i don't want to try hard characters and keep up their combos. Maybe i build him eventually but Ellen and Lighter peeks my interest more. I wanted Qingyi for an electric team that i wanna make with rina but im not sure now.
I got m6 harumasu and he’s so much fun , once you get m4 it turns into him zooming around the map and effortless 28 dash combos
@@tropicalpromised is the m things copies of the characters? im f2p and wont spend any money so it would be impossible for me
Probably Jane and Qingyi wengine
+get Caesar since i was short on poly for her
My goal is to get every character and there signature weapon!!!! The only character I M6W1 is Miyabi
I really need Yanagi 🥰
I dont go for Any Reruns. Maybe Yanagi depending on how important she is at that Time for Miyabi.
Looking at Hoyos Past Games they dont have a really good Trackrecord when it comes to relevance for 1.x Units once 2.0 Launched. Even though ZZZ did a good Job in Terms of Balancing so far but i Stick to Barney Stinson : " New is always better"
I think for people who are new, thinking about comfortability/meta you should pull for caesar, then you can go for lighter. I picked these two since i think theyre the ones who will still be relevant even in later patches without being powercrept so much. tho at the end pull for who you want guys, i pull every waifu so ye i skipped lighter.
probably going for jane's engine and burnice + engine. i kinda want zhu yuan but ill just wait for the next ether dps
Does Jane need her engine?
I like the character but don't have much to pull the engine.
Is there good enough alternative?
Not at all. She has great F2P options, I just want to get that last little bit out of her
so its really confirmed were getting reruns starting with Ellen and Zhu Yuan oh boy my 176 pulls might not be enough there's just so many characters what am i gonna need 500 pulls or some crap lol I still want Zhu Yuan, Evelyn, and Astra Im still trying to decide if I should skip Astra or not and I have a 50/50 unless I pull on Miyabi's banner again and lose 50/50 then I would have guaranteed but I'd still be using pulls
Don't skip astra.
I really want M2 Ellen, Astra and their signature. Please be good to me RNG Jesus 🙏
For me its Qingyi and Lighter. Both are really cool and nice to play, And I could also really use Qingi for my Haru/Zhu teams, And Lighter just because well... He's Lighter not much to say lol.
And I just think its a good idea to have any dazer you want rdy whenever you want too even tho the meta currently favors anomaly characters every team can use them and I learned that having flexibility and comfortableness by far outweigh anything which dazers provide except if u play Anby she a ho! xD I genuinely think getting every dazer would be a good idea in the long run but only time will tell. if I can sqeuueze in another character I would probably pick Ceaser, I already proved to myself I can beat anything with Anby im tired let me rest with Ceaser xD
Astra looks meh as I’m looking forward to getting Ellen instead since I didn’t get her last time and Evelyn also
There's really only a few agents that I'm interested in when their rerun comes.
1. Jane Doe- She's the reason I started playing the damn game. Unfortunately, I started 2 days before her banner ended. I failed to get enough pulls to get Jane. When she comes back, I am going deep and hard for her and her wengine.
2. Caesar's engine- Got 1 copy of her after failing to get Jane. She's been the backbone of my Piper team and the core member of my Premium team. I think she deserves the best and I am getting that engine of hers for that reason.
The others that I 'might' roll for are Burnice and Lighter. I like them but I'm fine without them. And maybe another copy of Miyabi coz why the hell not.
But this depends on who they are paired with. If the main highlight is someone I want, then these 3 will have to take the back seat.
The rest are skips.
YOOOO I CAN FINALLY M6 MY M5 MIYABI AND GET CAESARRRR
I ran out of grindable polys as f2p lmfao
@@AngeloSison-k1s Same, on Miyabi M4, just want M5 & M6 then Ceasar and her W-engine as ceasat makes using A rank attackers much much easier.
All I care about is Jane Doe
Jane Doe is a must at least for M2 as what I want to do but the other agents from 1.1 or 1.2 I need them like (Zhu Yuan and Qingyi).
Overall good luck with pulls in future 😅🙌
@Freej3 honestly man, I feel that. I'm definitely gonna be going for M2, been working on saving after I gor Miyabi haha, gl to you too!
I want Ellen but I can't justify pulling on a character that will never get play because of power creep. Very sad to see such a cool character become irrelevant prior to the rerun.
One thing I have learned about zzz is : "anomaly units are mandatory, attack units are weaker in every single aspect and will be outdone by every new anomaly that gets released"
So If any new player asked me for advice, the most honest advice I would say is :
- skip attackers because they'r underwhelming and WILL be outdone by their anomaly counterparts
- skip stunners because they'r only needed for attackers
- get the supports/shielders that go with your team
- get EVERY anomaly unit. It's not a choice, it's an obligation.
I am a person that pulled for Ellen and have seen her fall into irrelevecy becasue of Miyabi, I am a person that skipped Burnice and have been PUNISHED by the game for it by suffering throu the pompey boss in deadly assault. This advice is what I wish I could have told my past self when I started the game.
It remains to be seen if Anomaly will indeed be obligatory in the future. HoYo has previously hard countered units in Genshin before, it wouldn't suprise me if in the future we get enemies where Anomaly units are straight up useless against.
Also, it really depends on the stunner, Lighter is an amazing unit in Miyabi and Burnice teams, despite not triggering Miyabi's Additional Ability, it can actually out damage Yanagi comps thanks to his buffs
I agree, but stunners will inevitably become pseudo supports, so I wouldn't skip on all of them. Some folks say Anomaly units won't always dominate, but I don't see how Attacker units can succeed when we have DPS units like Miyabi that can do both anomaly and Burst attack. But my advice for new players, invest in supports, unique dps (not normal burst dps) like anomaly or better yet hybrids.
The things you said about anomaly is also true for DoT or the destruction class in Honkai star rail, and look what happend to them now. Idk why people surprised that anomaly is better now since they’ve been only releasing anomaly character recently, and the buffs for deadly assault and Shitu defense heavily favors Anomaly, except for the ones with Lighter. The meta in these games can change easily, and they are in control of that.
guys if im being honest this is NOT the mindset to have. feeling like your obligated to pull a unit u dont even like will make the game unfun. give zzz a break, the game just came out a few months ago and its roster is still growing. i doubt theyll leave attackers in the dust and theyll eventually buff them. anomaly just feels super strong right now because theyre the newest agents and the endgame modes buff them. especially miyabi, but shes rightfully strong because shes a void hunter. ellen isnt unusable right now, yall are stressing too much about powercreep. now this would be different for HSR because they have a genuine powercreep problem, but its mostly because of the gameplay style. zzz allows more flexibility because your able to dodge and tech stuff. in conclusion, PULL FOR WHO U FIND FUN. accept that you cant get every new shiny character in the game and just have fun.
@capupccino Exactly this. Prioritize getting characters you enjoy rather than whatever dictates the meta, especially if you already have a stable account with good characters
i really like ellen, but OH MY GOD miyabi outclasses her so hard its not funny. miyabi is gonna stay one of the best units in the game, probably for the games entire runtime, unless they nerf her, which mihoyo doesnt really do.
Just keep in mind, never ever pull on a rerun banner unless it's a support. So look out for ceaser and burnice reruns. Every other character is likely to be replaced soon after or are already replaced. Like with any hoyo game I would not even recommend pulling for a re-run banner of a hyper-carry either. If miyabi is on a re-run, her replacement is close by. That's how these games get ya.
You only get 1 chance to pull copies of a hyper carry and that is at their launch at least from a pattern recognition standpoint.
@@MarkFin9423 just pull who you like , this game isn't gonna block you from clearing story or end game content if you didn't have meta character
I will be skipping Astra and spending all of my polychrome on Zhu and there is nothing you can do to stop me
@@ahahaha580 We have yet to see how difficulty spikes will be implemented but considering how HI3, and HSR implements their power creep I would still be cautious until all of the complexity rears itself in full.
@@DrZaiusDrZaius-xp5fw Hands up, that's illegal. x D
Boobs and ass over meta man