Dead of Winter - Shut Up & Sit Down Review

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    First published on September 12, 2014.

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  • @ethan5354
    @ethan5354 7 лет назад +644

    the last time I played Dead of Winter, the dog got night vision goggles, a 1911 pistol, and a rifle and basically carried the colony to survival.

    • @starbucksmocha88
      @starbucksmocha88 5 лет назад +29

      Hahaha that's awesome! Sparky brings a lot of humour to the game scenarios it seems.

    • @RedSpade83
      @RedSpade83 4 года назад +19

      That is a good dog

    • @venomenoide
      @venomenoide 4 года назад +27

      LoL This comment made me decide to buy this game

    • @christianhernandez199
      @christianhernandez199 3 года назад

      YESS, hail to the Dog leader

    • @nicepetr9740
      @nicepetr9740 2 года назад

      But I thought that you can have only one weapon on your character?

  • @natelabine4308
    @natelabine4308 4 года назад +167

    Lol.
    After all this time, I only realize now that reference pear must’ve had the “burn it down” betrayer goal, where you’ve gotta build barricades and horde fuel.
    You bastards are all about the detail, and it shows.
    10/10.

  • @lautaroaguirre5474
    @lautaroaguirre5474 4 года назад +58

    My first game I got Sparky.
    Sparky used some gasoline to drive to a location without meeting zombies, but in the way he saw an abandoned church and reflected on religion and what we had become. He decided not to risk taking the consecrated wine because there was a zombie priest that was potentially dangerous.
    Later he found the lighter, and came back to the safe house infested with zombies. He lit the lighter and asked "do you know why they call me Sparky?".
    That game was so stupidly funny that I wouldn't have it any other way. The dog taking tough decisions is the best thing that I could ask from a theme that has been overused to exhaustion and I can't take seriously anymore.

  • @MaxLSilver
    @MaxLSilver 3 года назад +18

    My favorite game of Dead of Winter, the betrayer won...with just the stunt dog (with a gun) as his character. The betrayal story was that he was taking over the camp for his friends, so the idea that the survivors got ran out of camp by a bunch of dogs was especially brilliant.

  • @danaendelmanis4612
    @danaendelmanis4612 5 лет назад +60

    This makes me want a Shut Up & Sit Down review of 'This War of Mine' even more

  • @ZaxploitationFilms
    @ZaxploitationFilms 8 лет назад +213

    A screen writer once said that if your film has no laughs in it, it isn't true to life. It could be argued that the elements of the absurd actually make the game more realist.

    • @BaconHer0
      @BaconHer0 6 лет назад +37

      Yup, especially when Sparky the Dog hops into a truck and drives the zombies away

    • @samsmith6370
      @samsmith6370 4 года назад +8

      Just like 2020, the unbelievable stuff is what makes it realistic

    • @takeagalbythehand
      @takeagalbythehand 2 года назад

      @@samsmith6370 your comment is underrated 😂

  • @Jimorian
    @Jimorian 5 лет назад +13

    When Paul talks about the idea that "somebody has to clean up the mess" the shot starts with dirty dishes in the sink in the background... :P
    "I thought it was *your* turn to do the dishes before shooting this week!"

  • @BlueFalcon1357
    @BlueFalcon1357 8 лет назад +182

    At the time I posted, 1 dislike had been put into the crisis. Obviously, we know it can't be ME who put that there, or I wouldn't be mentioning it. But I'm watching all of you other commenters._>
    I know...

  • @Rivaldi530
    @Rivaldi530 6 лет назад +55

    I love how the Chinese on your door says"saftey for the whole family" for the intro on a post-apocolyptic themed video.

  • @phillipmele8533
    @phillipmele8533 5 лет назад +27

    I would argue that the goofy stuff is there because otherwise this would be a horrifying soul-crushing slog. There has to be *some* emotional relief or you’ll break and just stop caring.

  • @johnlong8952
    @johnlong8952 6 лет назад +11

    For insane craziness anytime it was a player's turn each other player would draw a Crossroad card. So there was a chance that we could have 4 Crossroad cards go off in someone's turn. It was the only way we be able to see everything in the game and we've play maybe 20 to 30 different games.

  • @greysky1252
    @greysky1252 5 лет назад +28

    Almost every game I've seen you review, I've put on my wishlist. You guys can sell me my own pants.

  • @StonerCloud
    @StonerCloud 7 лет назад +86

    sparky the stunt doge is best character get him a sniper gg

  • @CaptainCarthex
    @CaptainCarthex 6 лет назад +10

    What they talk about at 5:30 happened to me. My first time playing, my first move, I rolled the bite thing. I was really upset. Luckily, I was playing as the dog (...Sparky?) who treats it as a wound instead. It was crazy. That said, I think I enjoy this game, especially if you play some thematic music, but we've never beaten it. We've played maybe about 8 times or so but have always lost. Maybe there is a small rule we are missing that makes it easier or maybe it is just that difficult.
    Also, after watching a bit more of the video they talk about Sparky and say he doesn't have any special abilities, and while I did get incredibly lucky, I am willing to admit, yes, he doesn't really have an ability. The others are much more useful. The nice thing about Sparky though is that he only requires a 2 on both searching AND attacking. So he's very good at both actions.

    • @JackingtonKensington
      @JackingtonKensington 6 лет назад +2

      Some of the objectives are absolutely brutal (stockpile), others are really easy, there's one where you just need to kill zombies... So whether you win or lose just depends on which objective you're doing, if you choose it randomly... God luck...

    • @CaptainCarthex
      @CaptainCarthex 6 лет назад

      I remember we tried the one where you just kill zombies (for research?) and we still lost, but that may have been one of our first games.

  • @juniorlopes3476
    @juniorlopes3476 6 лет назад +15

    3:42 Max Clifford DIED
    Now we're down to 2 more people.

  • @hyperkubus
    @hyperkubus 8 лет назад +19

    Oh those memories!
    This is the first video that I seen with them.

  • @Three-Headed-Monkey
    @Three-Headed-Monkey 8 лет назад +17

    A very helpful pair, indeed! Great review. This is a fun game and I wish I played more of it.

    • @Reapus
      @Reapus 7 лет назад +1

      Justin O. wut

  • @nicholasteller6574
    @nicholasteller6574 Год назад +1

    Paul + Quinn. The all time second best SU&SD lineup behind Tom by himself.

  • @Transplanar
    @Transplanar 7 лет назад +40

    Is there a reason why you recommend the player elimination variant over the alternative? I feel like player elimination, especially for long games, can be pretty annoying. Why does it make sense for this one?

  • @haruruben
    @haruruben 4 года назад +2

    omg is that a golden retriever wearing a super hero cape???? I'M SOLD

  • @ZobRombie13
    @ZobRombie13 5 лет назад +5

    "You know, kinda like...London...." LMAO

  • @viktorfalk1988
    @viktorfalk1988 6 лет назад +9

    The time I played this, the dog led a group and wielded a sniper rifle

  • @timeenoughatlast3368
    @timeenoughatlast3368 5 лет назад +3

    Last time i played Black beard started the Church of our lord Sparky who became the defacto leader and brutal Despot of the colony known for exicuting those who would not walk him with his rifle.

  • @MrLeviathoth
    @MrLeviathoth 7 лет назад +4

    Just found your site and you guys are awesome. Subscribed! Bell Ringing symbol, activated!

  • @SmellyJelly4MyBelly
    @SmellyJelly4MyBelly 6 лет назад +3

    3:48 Wow, guess it all worked out with Max Clifford in the end.

  • @shuuritaahai7183
    @shuuritaahai7183 6 лет назад +8

    I have played this game 5 times with friends. We've never won. Mostly cuz the same friend ends up betrayer and stupidly and effectively sabotages us, but forgets his secret agenda.

    • @JeremyHoffman
      @JeremyHoffman Год назад

      I've had this happen so often. It's frustrating when it sort of ruins the game for everyone.
      TIP FOR INEXPERIENCED BETRAYERS: Focus on selfishly achieving your personal objective. The colony will usually lose morale on its own without your direct sabotage.

  • @theindex4008
    @theindex4008 Год назад

    i miss paul. i remember when you guys were in an assassination game and you told the story of paul staving off an ambush. i remember Quinn saying it was the manliest thing he had ever done. so funny.

  • @Tanks.With.Teeth.Malloy
    @Tanks.With.Teeth.Malloy 5 лет назад +3

    Is...is that Auska on a poster @6:16? Oh man, didn't expect to see NGE here lol.

  • @Roflmaolinde
    @Roflmaolinde 5 лет назад +6

    As I recall, you only keep one of the items when you use noise, so I don’t think your example is correct.
    My favorite game!!

  • @fabianekmartin
    @fabianekmartin Год назад

    Nice prep ideas for this years winter 😃

  • @theoutlook55
    @theoutlook55 3 года назад +1

    I just played that one a few weeks ago with some friends of mine. It was a delightful 5 player game.

  • @giantlobsterboy644
    @giantlobsterboy644 5 лет назад +2

    Card SPOILER - SPOILER - SPOILER
    *Ahem*
    The first card I read for this game (randomly...) was about finding a cache of motorized wheelchairs. It gave the players the choice of having indoor races until the batteries went dead for some kind of boost but creating noise...or not doing anything with them.

  • @HowDoesFrankyEven
    @HowDoesFrankyEven 4 года назад +2

    If anyone knowingly chooses Rod Miller, truck driver. Know that they are the betrayer. Every time

    • @mitchlondon4870
      @mitchlondon4870 4 года назад

      Rod Miller is OP lmao!

    • @GamerBoy870
      @GamerBoy870 3 года назад

      @@mitchlondon4870 I just ordered this boardgame for $40 is Rod Miller that op

  • @philidips
    @philidips Год назад

    "It'll be eating us in a week"
    Classic SUSD was top notch

  • @homie2all
    @homie2all 6 лет назад +2

    Love the evangelion banner on the wall in the background

  • @juegosen30segundos53
    @juegosen30segundos53 8 лет назад +2

    Loved the video. I've been following this game for quite a long time now but haven't made the decision whether to get it yet. After watching this I am closer to getting it yet I am not entirely convinced... any piece of advice? thx.

  • @maremaarten
    @maremaarten 6 лет назад +5

    God I want this game...

  • @nathanglover8938
    @nathanglover8938 3 года назад +4

    "there are cards in the deck about players eating well" - that doesn't sound so bad! What's dark and gloomy about that? ;)

  • @KeiBrightwing
    @KeiBrightwing 6 лет назад +6

    Didn't like this board game. Way too much randomness. One time my party lost during the second turn due to bad luck in rolls and card pickups.

    • @anvil067
      @anvil067 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah, it happens. Reset and start again! :-)

  • @timhorton8085
    @timhorton8085 Год назад +1

    The opening of this review makes me wonder....
    Has SUSD ever considered price fixing a board game by buying up big stock of a fun but unknown game and giving it a bombastic, glowing review?

  • @AndrewRichesson
    @AndrewRichesson 5 лет назад +1

    Settlers of Catan 1:25

  • @lucash8234
    @lucash8234 5 лет назад +1

    Guy in the scarf looks like Edward Snowden

  • @Echodonut
    @Echodonut 2 года назад

    I love how they faked thowring away the pear because who would throw away a good pear.

  • @RERESE2
    @RERESE2 7 лет назад +1

    why i dont have sparky in my dead of winter the long night????

    • @jerrylazzara7925
      @jerrylazzara7925 6 лет назад +4

      The characters in the original game are completely different than those in the Long Night. You need to get the original if you want Sparky.

  • @lopezmt5
    @lopezmt5 5 лет назад +3

    "3 People must die: Max Clifford, Rupert Murdoch...". Well, you were able to get rid of Max...

  • @someguy4262
    @someguy4262 2 года назад

    I own Dead of Winter. It hasn't hit the table since the second night we played it, wherein the rules of the game made it logically impossible to win.

  • @yatudlabiereicit
    @yatudlabiereicit 4 года назад +9

    im suprised ... i got the game. Played with hardcore gamers.. found out that you dont really have choices to make... either you draw good cards or youre doomed to starve or have no moral.

    • @martinshillitoe4735
      @martinshillitoe4735 4 года назад +1

      yatudlabiereicit disagree entirely. I think the choices are multiple and impactful. Genuinely couldn’t disagree more .

    • @granthamlin8126
      @granthamlin8126 4 года назад +2

      Then you're playing wrong.

  • @abubakr4401
    @abubakr4401 4 года назад

    Ive played this game so many times with my friends but we can't seem to win even one game

  • @Moronguhl
    @Moronguhl 7 лет назад +2

    Pear for pear-sident.

  • @JonatasAdoM
    @JonatasAdoM 3 года назад

    People eating.... well.
    Oh my, people eating well during a zombie Apocalypse!!

  • @kitarrikangelanejuzz
    @kitarrikangelanejuzz 5 лет назад

    Hey guys, I am planning on buying a co-op survival game. But it’s kinda hard to decide which one I should buy. “This War of Mine” or “Dead of Winter”
    Which one would you guys recommend?
    Most probably the biggest game changer for us is the speed of the game. One big thing that we hate is that when we have to wait for 30 minutes before next person can make his/her move, just because there are so many things to do. So keeping that in mind which game would you recommend? And when not keeping that in mind, which game would you then recommend?
    Oh and PS best board game channel!!!
    You are funny and you are very interesting to watch! Keep up the good work.
    Greetings from Estonia😉

    • @Ggggggmmmm324
      @Ggggggmmmm324 5 лет назад

      Don't know if you bought a game yet, but for cooperation definitely get Dead of winter. This war of mine is good, but more of a single player game where players alternate playing the same characters.

    • @kitarrikangelanejuzz
      @kitarrikangelanejuzz 5 лет назад

      @@Ggggggmmmm324 Thank you, Dead of Winter it is then :)

  • @culturia3555
    @culturia3555 2 года назад

    I laughed hard when I saw the Ninja card.

  • @HowDoesFrankyEven
    @HowDoesFrankyEven 3 года назад

    8:20 the boys talk about the 2 best characters in the freaking game! Play to find out why lol

  • @Razsteroid
    @Razsteroid Год назад

    Asuka wallscroll I am complete

  • @EruditeChap
    @EruditeChap 6 лет назад

    We thought it was all just for fun, but now Max Clifford IS dead...

  • @JosephPage
    @JosephPage 6 лет назад

    15:28 What on earth is Chris up to in the comments

  • @Wolfvonhinslik
    @Wolfvonhinslik 6 лет назад +3

    Whos Asuka Soryu wall scroll is that?!?! Asuka is best girl!

  • @muuubiee
    @muuubiee 6 лет назад +2

    The game is pretty broken.
    It's very difficult to just not lose by morale. Completing your secret objective and not losing from morale requires and absurd amount of luck. Even if everyone spends all their resources to not lose by morale there's something like a 50/50 chance you'll manage.
    The best thing is to be exiled, as I remember it, the exiled objectives are much easier to complete, and gives you a shot at winning.

  • @overlord606
    @overlord606 4 года назад

    Thats the future kids i already got the skills thanks to that game.Time to go frozen.

  • @martind349
    @martind349 4 года назад

    Polytopia is my poison.

  • @stevemathers3432
    @stevemathers3432 6 лет назад

    one down, two to go...

  • @timeenoughatlast3368
    @timeenoughatlast3368 6 лет назад +5

    my group was lead by sparky the dog and his right hand man/ crazy apossel black beard the homeless. i established a cult snd lured people in with sparkys silver tounge until wwe had to cut the game short. so i had my followers kill each other while sparky watched im delight

  • @RATZGobbler
    @RATZGobbler 7 лет назад

    Pair of what, though?

  • @SacredDaturaa
    @SacredDaturaa 5 лет назад

    "You can't vote for yourself... that's not how democracy works. That's onanism."

  • @cslewis47
    @cslewis47 4 года назад

    quinn really grew up

  • @Underdrummer
    @Underdrummer 7 лет назад +1

    I want pepperomi now. Yes, p-e-p-p-e-r-o-M-i.

  • @arkansful
    @arkansful 6 лет назад +4

    I'll have to assume that the experience is different when playing with your friends. I've played about 5 games on Tabletop Simulator, all of them boring, some of them massively so. I only stayed because I don't like just leaving in the middle of a co-op game.

    • @jerrylazzara7925
      @jerrylazzara7925 6 лет назад +14

      Yes. Dead of Winter is a social experience. Playing online with a bunch of quiet strangers is practically pointless. You have to play with your friends.

  • @hunterthorne4671
    @hunterthorne4671 4 года назад +2

    I did not like this game... It's another one of those "you work cooperatively to complete a goal, but you're all competing against eachother" so your goal never gets completed...
    there's really no incentive even to cooperate with the other players, it's easier to just let the colony die and get an alternate win condition... Would not recommend

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster 4 года назад

      The only way to get an alternative win condition is to be exiled and only one non betrayer character can be exiled.

  • @draconianlife
    @draconianlife 8 лет назад +6

    Oh, how I miss Paul. :-(

  • @gemmahaste8321
    @gemmahaste8321 4 года назад

    Do warhammer 40k

  • @espositogregory
    @espositogregory 5 лет назад

    ownerism, eh?

  • @Arthas30000
    @Arthas30000 3 года назад

    So, as someone who played DoW to death, I can provide some negative criticism I don't think SUSD provided in this case.
    1) I wish the crossroads cards were active more often. Usually, you will go rounds not playing any, because they rely on very, VERY specific things to occur. Sometimes depending on certain characters being in play. That's kind of...boring. Maybe when they do activate you'll feel glad they did, but otherwise, it's kind of meh.
    2) The betrayers are hard to play as because you can always track down where items come from. Thus, the game is a little unfair towards them. Minor nitpick frankly.
    3) The rules aren't super clear. It took until our 3rd game to realize that if you have a survivor in a location rather than the colony, they don't need food. We also never realized that you play food cards to generate food tokens. We kind of just played them all at the very end of a round to feed ourselves.
    4) The game is easily "broken" if everyone plays for themselves. Generate a ton of characters and then you can singlehandedly win any scenario while dominating everyone else.
    5) That die is broken as all hell. I played two games where on the first roll a friend of mine had their character die. It's unfair, unfun, and not particularly thematic.
    Overall, if you like the game, more power to you :) but, I wish it was balanced a bit better and made more like a story telling machine rather than the cold brutal game that it is.

  • @valerieashinn
    @valerieashinn 6 лет назад

    You can definitely vote for yourself in a democracy

  • @Ziabatsu
    @Ziabatsu 7 лет назад +2

    14:46 ; If you're going to eat food, might wanna do some dishes 1st. Also; the guy with glasses looks like Stephen Merchant.

  • @jedrzejszymanski542
    @jedrzejszymanski542 5 лет назад

    This game is rng fiesta.

  • @wanderingbandit8823
    @wanderingbandit8823 7 лет назад +6

    The 8 people who disliked this video are just salty because the other 593 exiled them from the colony

    • @wanderingbandit8823
      @wanderingbandit8823 7 лет назад

      In many ways, it's just like Australia's attitude to the British Empire

  • @scottjoewill
    @scottjoewill 2 года назад

    Your kitchen makes me sad.

  • @ra-dro
    @ra-dro 5 лет назад

    2199 dog

  • @theassening4563
    @theassening4563 3 года назад

    this is not a comment

  • @chain-wallet
    @chain-wallet 6 лет назад

    man you people are weird. i guess thats why you spend all your time playing boardgames