ANSWERED: Who's Better, NVIDIA or AMD For GPUs?
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ANSWERED: Who's Better, NVIDIA or AMD For GPUs?
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Experience : When you connect a direct Nvidia Card TO A NVIDIA MONITOR , sOMETHING HAPPENS - NO FLICKERING. Let that thought sink in.
Trick question, it’s “who is the least terrible”
For me I went with the 7900xtx. I just don't want to take a chance on the problematic new 12v power connector that all the newer nvidia cards have. No regrets. I love my 7900xtx.
I will give it to you tho, Nvidia is better.....at melting. :(
There was a report the other day of a 4090 cable melting at both ends on 75% power draw.
I went with a 7700xt for my 6 year old and 7900GRE for myself. There is no need to waste a single dime on team green when my family plays steam games and games on xbox pass. None of us have heavy work loads. It is what it is. This will all be a meme in 3 years anyways and my 7900GRE will still do what I need it to do for a 1/4 th the cost while holding its value.
@@BlackJesus8463That's interesting, I have a 4080 and have no problems. I will sometimes peak at 300w there must be something else going on. I wonder if cards being flexed at the PCIE slot has anything to do with it. Or maybe the connectors are being flexed at the part near the gpu.
I do content creation also so AMD just isn't a choice for me right now.
coming from AMD , I had not been on Nvidia since he GTX 970 which I loved to death, but Nvidia has been miilking their user basse snce the 1080 which was their last competitive product at a fair price, then the price gouging and scalping diditn help and they actively encouraged it by atificially rstricting supply. AMD has put up a brave fight, and If they keep at it like they have done with their cpus they can gain marktshare. Ill happyly wait till I can get a 4080-4090 performnce for $500 ,like I did with my 3080ti, coming from a 6700xt to a 3080 ti really not that much diferent if you turn off fps counter and manag settings in most games. Sure I could have gotten a 4090 for 1300$, but I rather keep that in the bank for whatever is around corner , ill wait till they manage to squeeze more performance whithout blowing watts out the wazoo. Lets see what 5070 ti - 9000xt series brings to table and if price is right. Also 1500$ gpus shoud como with a 5 year warranty
@@Dexion845 Oh yeah? How much performance would you be missing with AMD?
No one is contending is Nvidia is better. Is paying double the price worth it? No. A Ferrari is better than a Honda. That is relative though. A Honda is reliable, affordable and will last longer. So what are you asking? Is it worth more to pay an absurd amount for a gpu that can do things you WILL NEVER USE it for or is it worth more to pay 1/3 the price to play your crappy steam game because in reality that is all you do?
It is your money, spend it your way. If you have a small pecker? and feel bad about yourself but need a 4070Ti super to play helldivers 2 at a major penalty, then do it. I play it on overkill with my 7700xt that cost me £350. I do not know what is in your pc and I do not give a single shit. Neither does anyone else. If you need the debt or have the ability to buy a GPU that is obsolete 4 months after you buy it for a flex, that just speaks volumes about how insecure the buyer is. Streamers and content creators are not spending money on their 4080 and 4090s, they get them free to tell idiots they need to buy them to play fps capped games that do not support dlss/rt. It is what it is.
Both cards have a place. AMD is for gamers, Nvidia is for content creators that stream with heavy work loads and the Nvidia camp is not even a single percent of a percent of gamers.
As for the sales and figures, the diy market is not where these companies make their money. AMD was forced out of MSI aib and lost contracts for mega important laptop contracts. I do appreciate propaganda. Nvidia has had a very strong arm in telling companies should they work with amd they will not do business with them or make sure they are paid years late. The big picture is much more complex than the bullocks relayed in short videos with extremely neutered information. AMD dropped once they lost 2 major laptop gpu deals. The apu will be the future and Nvidia will fail at every corner on the apu. Nvidia will happily just stick to AI and move away from the diy market.
Nvidia is worth it for people that use it for what it is made more. It is not better for the masses. End of.
I went for a 6950 XT a year ago and have no regrets. I considered going for a 4070 @ $720, but decided to go for 6950 XT @ $600. I only play multiplayer games so Frame gen and Ray Tracing isn't something i would ever use. DLSS would be a nice to have, but there is so much competition now that i believe that the other upscalers like FSR, XeSS, TSR and Microsoft's upscaler will catch up to the quality level of DLSS.
I bought a new RX 580 just because it was less than $100… that thing was surprisingly good. Way better than a GTX 1660 Super or RTX 3050. Their lower end GPUs are way better than what Nvidia has to offer.
3:32 it’s not even an advantage over Nvidia as all their tech is open source if I want FSR 3 and all the jazz from AMD I can just enable it from my nvidia card
Im looking to buy the 4070ti super
If you need the Nivdia Features then yes that whould be my go to card.
Otherwise if care about rasterzation only then the 7900XT is a better deal and is cheaper.
I bought a Galax 4070ti super and it overclocks to insane levels(exceed 4080 stock rendering levels) and beat my friends 7900xt in alot games, but it also cost me about $100 more than my friends card. I couldn't be happier, but however you pay for that NV goodness and its not for everyone. If you purely want just raster performance then AMD is better value and I will never argue against that. If you want rt and any upscaling tech and have the cash to spend NV is the way to go.
@@MrBlackdragon1230 iv been liking to rt games
My first video card was a nvidia Riva 128. Crashed all the time, so next went 3dfx great card but they went out of business. Went to an ATI all in wonder for video capture and editing, then back to Nvidea 6200 which was terrible. My first AMD card was a 260x, it was still running Tomb Raider and Assassins Creed games pretty well when I upgraded to a 580, which is now my daughter's (playing Hogwarts and Baldur's Gate). Now I have a 6600xt that I will never have to upgrade until I get a better monitor. AMD has never given me reason to leave them. And I have never spent more than $250 for a video card.
I've never had a problem with AMD gpu but I've always enjoyed them. Just playing GTA on cheap graphics is the best entertainment you can get for the money.
Why would I buy PC products made by a console company? I buy PC products made by a PC graphics company.
I keep thinking when the AI craze will slow down or when there will be more competition to stop Nivdia form being greedy.
Most people aren't looking for 1k GPUs. They are only sought after as new gen release cycle, when supplies are limited and scalpers are clamoring after them. They are trying to stagnate as much ass possible, but people won't upgrade for marginal price/performance. Amd totally missed the boat on ai with their GPUs. The chiplet design is more power hungry? They probably could have had more performance with a monolithic design. Amd GPUs aren't competing, lack on the software side as well and are just taking leftover buyers. Objectively, Amd GPUs are inferior and these high prices is an illusion. Amd last gen GPU are still better value over the 7000 series. I really hope amd can give us a better offering next gen, just hope the manufacturers aren't jumping ship.
For rasterization: AMD. For Ray tracing: NVIDIA
Lolwut? This isn't a comparison, you don't have any graphics without rasterization.
@@x8jason8x He means AMD value on a budget. You can't really get excited for raytracing until the $800 mark and that's too bad.
@@BlackJesus8463 Man, you're really giving it a lot of credit. I haven't tested a 4080 yet that was anything but a joke at full RT.
There is more than raytracing. DLSS, DLDSR(underrated feature), driver stability, frequent driver updates, NVENC, CUDA etc.
@@Extreme96PL AMD has alternatives for all of that or maybe all but one of those things. FSR isn't as good as DLSS but XeSS is already pretty close and I'm running it on my 6800
4090 is on fire
One day a home 2 😢
And the family kids cats 😢
After hearing about the power connector melting in 4090 I just went with AMD. It's crazy having to worry all the time about your PC potentially burning down.
forealz
Incorrect, you don't need to worry about your GPU melting.
You're an idiot.
If the connector is fully secured, and you're not some dough head bending the connector then it will, and is 100% fine.
Me, and friends have had a 4090 since release. Not a single issue of any kind. Along with the 99%+ of other people who own one.
And anything under a 4090 you certainly don't need to care. They are too low power.
Only people who buy AMD, are poor people looking to get an extra frame or two for a cheap price.
You buy a cheap card you get cheap performance. You didn't make a good choice, you made it poor choice.
For casual gaming, AMD. Heck my RX 580 still plays all the FTP games just fine.
Just installed a 4080 super suprim x. It’s unbelievable in being quiet. It’s a beautiful chonk GPU
I had a 6800 xt previously. It still a great card, and had no complaints.
The 6800xt was my first AMD card
And the 4080 super is my first nvida card
both great cards. Both horribly mispriced. The 6800xt will have more staying power and be remembered in 5 years. Nvidia will notoriously fuck up the 50 series and release a 60 series that shits all over the 40 series. they cant help themselves and the budget market will still pay £350 for the 6800xt in 2028
@@fuzzylumpkins6034 Yeah I think the 6800xt was the best card out of the 6000 series for AMD, and basically 7800xt is the same product, it did everything I asked out of it. I did buy it at the shortage so I paid a premium, and wish I hadn’t but oh well.
I haven’t had much time messing with the 4080 super, but with all the rumors swirling around the 5000 series my gut is like something is off. A 60% increase from a 4090 in a years time… sounds like good marketing..
Depends who can offer better value and right now, neither. It could come down to battlemage if/when it arrives
Who offers the most rasterization for the least money should really be the winner... but as long as we have people out here saying nVidia is better, that won't happen.
@@x8jason8x "best" is not the same as "best value". I'm sure Classic Technology agrees with you that AMD gives the most rasterization value. That doesn't make them the best GPU maker. This shouldn't be hard to understand.
@@BearfootBob You clearly don't understand the point of a *_Graphics Processing Unit._*
Good day sir.
@@x8jason8x I like how you highlight your total lack of an argument with italics and bold.
@@BearfootBob I like how you have no response. Go edit it. 🤣
It depends on where you buy it, In the UK the AMD cards are competing in price with the lower tier from Nvidia. 7900XTX = 4070TISuper (800£) while the 7900XT = 4070 Super (around 600£), this is tax/VAT included. AMD wins here
*always buy a Nvidia graphics card*
I tried the 7800 XT, the 7900 XT, and the 7900 GRE.
All of them suffer from an endless list of issues. Do not buy into someone saying "I've never had a single issue!"
First of all they are lying.
Second of all even if they weren't, it likely means they only play one or three games that happen to have no issues.
The AMD cards produced issues with emulation of games, audio cutting in and out which is a common issue you can simply Google and see that it exists.
Driver timeouts and crashes in games like world of Warcraft and other titles that AMD just doesn't give a shit to fix.
They are absolutely terrible at streaming, and even worse at any form of production. Vastly inferior upscaling, fsr looks horrid.
And worse frame generations support, and technology. Along with essentially null ray tracing.
They also draw a lot more power.
Do not make the mistake of getting a piece of junk AMD card.
If you're in the market for a GPU do yourself a favor and make the right choice the first time. Get yourself an Nvidia card and never worry about it again it's as simple as that.
I have had all of them, I'm not an Nvidia fanboy or an AMD one.
I am someone who has actually had all of them and experienced them all including the 490 and 7900 XTX.
The Nvidia card simply always works. No matter what you're doing. Even if you have to sacrifice some VRAM, and 5 or 10 frames. Trust me just do it. None of that means anything at your game doesn't run
after seeing some of my friends play some recent games like helldivers 2, they crash a lot, and then the new patch that give a fix to AMD gpu crashing the game after 1 month it launch, nah, I stick with nvidia
I’m Team Nvidia
Green Team 😎💪🏻
I was going to go 7900XTX when I built my PC last year, but I went with a 4080 for DLSS, Raytracing, and most important to me: VR performance.
nerd
Well you got what you needed. Yeah unfortunately Nivdia does lead in VR but AMD getting there.
All I play is cod so got amd
You talking about AMD and Nvidia GPUs from A whales stand point, 1k Dollars GPUs US Market is A thing not everyone can buy!
And here in Sweden same GPUs will have more like 1600 Dollars Price cuz of tax here!
So big No! AMDs GPU is still good to buy for the Average Gamer 6000 series and forward.
Neither, deep link tech and Arc gpus are the way to go.
thirdth
😁
@@ClassicalTechnology lol
Quite frankly, I was seriously considering moving back to Team Red because of Team Green’s business practices during lockdown, and I actually did for 24 hours, but I returned it because for what I needed it just didn’t work.
If AMD were more competitive in raytracing and for GPU acceleration for things like encoding in DaVinci Resolve and Blender, it’d be “Nvidia Outside,” but sadly they’re not, so NVidia’s the devil you know in this case. And that’s not even mentioning their Linux drivers are even more abysmal than NVidia…
What's weird is how almost none of that is true. RT is a joke, "what you needed" is vague, and not a single person that ever used a linux rig with both nVidia and AMD cards *_ever_* said "AMD is the worst", since nVidia notoriously is closed source and hates linux users.
Why do people do this myth creation nonsense?
Path Tracing & NVENC for content creation.... So Nvidia currently has my money. AMD currently has no answer but here's hoping RDNA5 can close the gap.
Nvenc is overrated as someone that has both a 4070 ti super and a 7900 xtx.
I just don't see how any of that is true considering RDNA4 has AV1, which is far more universal than HEVC, but ngl, I love a properly encoded HEVC file size.
Nobody will argue that the 4090 isn't faster at rendering, but to say AV1 is "no answer" is flatly false. You just prefer nvenc. 😅
@@x8jason8x and Path Tracing
@@Dexion845 For what? Full RT/PT cripples even the 4090. Unless you're doing work as a Blender artist, you have factually paid to see a few streaks of light and some reflections at sub 60 fps.
Buy whatever you want, but I've tested probably a hundred gpus at this point since both 40 series and RDNA4 released. Probably the biggest abuse of customer loyalty I've ever seen from any company on nVidia's end, what's weird is how you all repeat their marketing, and take it. AMD isn't without flaws, but they at least don't have enough hubris to tell gamers they need a 2k GPU just to play SpooderMon at 35fps *_PSYCHO RT/PT ENABLED_* lol.
@@x8jason8x 90-130fps average for me with Ultra Settings+Path Tracing I play at 1440p using DLSSQ with FG on CyberPunk 2077. This is with a 4080
Botijas🙂
As you mentioned it comes down to the price. If your paying $600+USD Nvidia is better with its better RT. If your paying $500 or less AMD is now competitive. As it normally has more VRAM like 16GB vs 12, and RT is quite slow on 4060Ti and lower.
For me, It's all about performance and features. I'm enthusiast PC gamer who couldn't care less about price to performance. So obviously Nvidia is the best. If AMD becomes the best then I will switch to AMD, But at this point AMD sucks compared to Nvidia.
Easiest question ever. Are you playing games? Get an nvidia gpu or enjoy misery and strange bugs no one else has. Want raw performance for software? Amd has better $/%.
OK, let's get something straight from the outset I'M NOT AN NVIDEA FANBOY! However I have to admit that NVIDEA's software is better than AMD's. I had the opportunity to buy a 4080 for £ 1080, which at the time was a very cheap price ( comparatively) and I've never regretted it. For my second PC I'm gaming at 1080p with a i5 13400KF ( which I had lying around! ) paired with an RX 7600 XT which I thought would be pretty crap! It's not! The gaming experience is excellent. No stuttering, no artifacts and very smooth. The only thing that worried me was the lack of support for FSR compared to DDR3. I needn't have worried! I obviously can't play intensive games on my lower tiered system without lowering the pre-sets but when you are immersed in the game you don't notice! I love both systems! 😍😍😍
If by "software" you mean GeForce Experience and AMD Adrenalin, AMD Adrenalin is better.
(Until nvidia polish their new app)
Up to 7-800 amd everything from 4070ti super and up your paying that much for a gpu u want all the bells and whistles ray tracing good upscaler and rasterosation that’s why amd is low end to middle of the road gpu king high end nvidia is king
Lol... being objective says they're exactly the same thing, graphics processors, all you're paying for is power maximization per class. There's too many considerations to say otherwise. You do know that 4090, and even some 4080 cards are also still catching on fire? You also keep hyping nVidia software as a feature, it's just not, almost no one cares. The purpose of a GPU is *_rasterization._* It's your opinion that nVidia is better, the objective data says most gamers don't give a damn about ray tracing, dlss, or frame generation, so AMD should be the best choice for most gamers. Never mind the open source software? Or the fact that human eyesight objectively can't see more than 144hz refresh rates? How many GPUs peg a 144hz monitor now on 99.9% of games?
I'm very disappointed in your rapid and repeated abuse of the word objective. nVidia is only objectively more expensive, risky, and energy inefficient is putting it mildly if you actually want the "eye candy", which you can only really get on a 4090... and even then, it's a stunningly wild disappointment if you were expecting something great, RT *still* basically makes games unplayable.
In the words of Joey Swoll, you need to do better.
He's not wrong. Your personal definition of GPU, and your personal claims about human eyesight sensitivity to refresh rate clearly define your statement as subjective. You even appear to have a personal definition of "objective". Very funny. And the power connector issue is fear persusasion, but does not change the objective truth that the 4090 is the strongest GPU.
@@BearfootBob Yes he is. I never said the 4090 isn't the strongest. It's not objectively the best either, certainly not objectively when use case is considered.
Your argument is invalid.
@@BearfootBob I see you're habitually spouting nonsense, so let me put this in lay terms:
No rasterization = no gaming
No RT = better performance
You are the fanboy he's referring to... Thiago is stating literal subjective preferences, and mistaking the word objective as something flung about without data, but he quite factually also owns many GPUs, as anyone who builds does. You salivate because you think your 2060 means you're part of some club.
It's just a GPU. They all do the same job. Processing graphics. Calm down. 😂
@@x8jason8x Word salad is not an argument. Which AMD GPU has better performance than the 4090?
@@BearfootBob Oh and how could I miss the real gem... there's been plenty of studies on human eyesight. We *_OBJECTIVELY_* can not see more than 30 frames per second, and can only perceive the effects of refresh up to about 144hz, with 60hz being where the *_VAST MAJORITY_* of people fall, and unable to perceive any effects past it.
Yes, let's also not forget that most of you have terrible eyesight, and couldn't tell a CRT from an OLED unless you're 18 inches away.