thanks for this. Got mine in the mail so I'm checking it over. Clearly a different hand piece but the wiring and colors are identical. Shake function does work out of the box. So far so good.
Nice clear, methodical presentation. I had shelved mine shortly after delivery thinking it was a dud. Indeed it was, 2 of the 5 pins were not even connected, so how this passed QC I will never know!
Depends on the hardware version, do you know which 2 pins weren't connected? For example, the NTC (temp sensor) in the handle probably wouldn't affect the overall performance of the unit and you could live without it. There are so many variations it's hard to tell when ordering online whether it will work out of the box or will need some modification to suit your setup. Cheers for the comment.
I also had a problem with the iron not entering stand by or sleep mode, worked perfectly well otherwise, even the wake up from a sleep start was fine, if I held the iron upside down the dot would stop flashing and after the set time would enter sleep mode, so assumed as others on here that the wake up switch needed to be reversed, I did this and it worked in a fashion but I'd get a spurious signal now and again(the dot would flash once) which would reset the sleep time and it never entered standby by mode, after playing around with the menus I figured out that I had the standby setting mode wrong. It should be set to switch and not wand. These settings seem to invert the signal and after swapping the switch in the iron handle back to its original position and changing the menu option to "switch" in the standby settings..... it all worked fine. Basically operator error but a lesson learned the hard way.
Add the issue that the shake switch can also be physically soldered in upside down - mine was and it meant that it never went into standby regardless of the pen not being moved The clue - the dot on screen would blink randomly even though it was in it's stand- tip pointed down- and perfectly still - thought I had a faulty unit or switch I noted that the only fix was to wedge the pen (tip pointing upwards) and it would stop blinking - not ideal to have the hot tip pointing upwards in my workspace, but at least it did go to standby and sleep modes Inverting the switch in the handle fixed the issue and it goes to sleep and wakes with the lightest of vibrations now
Yes, I've heard a few others talk about this issue. I have a theory but i've not tested it to be certain. In my case the NTC/shake switch were wired in reverse once I sorted that it was working like a charm.
I grabbed a KSGER station (hardware version reported as 3.1s) which came with the bigger 907 Fakko handle with a 6-pin connector. Seems to be running a firmware (v8.0M) that looks like a Quicko variant. Doesn't have discrete tip calibration. Has a T12 compensation, and also 1321 and 1322 tip settings (once again not discrete). It has an NTC mounted just behind the front panel inside the station. It seems this station can handle non-T12 tips also. No NTC in the handle. Has the ball switch (green barrel looking component). White wire goes to ball switch, and switch goes to Blue wire via PCB. Only 5 wires in the cable. Shake to wake works. I just took delivery of a 6-pin 9501 FAKKO handle. It also only has 5 wires in the cable. No NTC installed. Blue is soldered onto the DC GND tab in the handle. White goes to the mercury switch, and that is also soldered on to the DC GND. Works fine in my station, and shake to wake works. In both handles, DC +ve, DC GND and Earth are all connected as yours (in the handle at least.) I buzzed out the plugs, but never noted the PIN numbers. If you'd like I can re buzz them.
Wow! massive amount of info Collin, great job. 😀 Interesting variations you have highlighted over the different handles. I am actually quite fond of the discrete tip calibrations though, however you can feel the differences relating to tip size and thermal mass when it comes to bigger joints. Shouldn't try to cheat and just change the tip, haha. It might be helpful to some others if you buzzed out the handles with pin numbers if you feel inclined. What's the tip to grip length like on the 907 compared to the 9501?
@@xyzconceptsYT Somehow I have it in my head you're in Perth. If you are, maybe I can let you have a look at it? It feels pretty comfy to me, but the tip protrudes further from the handle than the 9501.
Yeah, I might have mentioned it in a couple of my past videos or commenting on someone else's video. Yeah, been a Perthite (south) since my beginning. After using all sorts of soldering irons over the years and getting into more and more SMD type work the shorter tip to grip tends to work out best for doing sub-millimetre joints.
thanks for this. Got mine in the mail so I'm checking it over. Clearly a different hand piece but the wiring and colors are identical. Shake function does work out of the box. So far so good.
Nice clear, methodical presentation. I had shelved mine shortly after delivery thinking it was a dud. Indeed it was, 2 of the 5 pins were not even connected, so how this passed QC I will never know!
Depends on the hardware version, do you know which 2 pins weren't connected? For example, the NTC (temp sensor) in the handle probably wouldn't affect the overall performance of the unit and you could live without it. There are so many variations it's hard to tell when ordering online whether it will work out of the box or will need some modification to suit your setup. Cheers for the comment.
@@xyzconceptsYT Voltage in and ground!
@@DrHWO Ha! Only the 2 most important connections. Oh, gee.
I also had a problem with the iron not entering stand by or sleep mode, worked perfectly well otherwise, even the wake up from a sleep start was fine, if I held the iron upside down the dot would stop flashing and after the set time would enter sleep mode, so assumed as others on here that the wake up switch needed to be reversed, I did this and it worked in a fashion but I'd get a spurious signal now and again(the dot would flash once) which would reset the sleep time and it never entered standby by mode, after playing around with the menus I figured out that I had the standby setting mode wrong. It should be set to switch and not wand. These settings seem to invert the signal and after swapping the switch in the iron handle back to its original position and changing the menu option to "switch" in the standby settings..... it all worked fine. Basically operator error but a lesson learned the hard way.
Add the issue that the shake switch can also be physically soldered in upside down - mine was and it meant that it never went into standby regardless of the pen not being moved
The clue - the dot on screen would blink randomly even though it was in it's stand- tip pointed down- and perfectly still - thought I had a faulty unit or switch
I noted that the only fix was to wedge the pen (tip pointing upwards) and it would stop blinking - not ideal to have the hot tip pointing upwards in my workspace, but at least it did go to standby and sleep modes
Inverting the switch in the handle fixed the issue and it goes to sleep and wakes with the lightest of vibrations now
Yes, I've heard a few others talk about this issue. I have a theory but i've not tested it to be certain. In my case the NTC/shake switch were wired in reverse once I sorted that it was working like a charm.
I grabbed a KSGER station (hardware version reported as 3.1s) which came with the bigger 907 Fakko handle with a 6-pin connector. Seems to be running a firmware (v8.0M) that looks like a Quicko variant. Doesn't have discrete tip calibration. Has a T12 compensation, and also 1321 and 1322 tip settings (once again not discrete). It has an NTC mounted just behind the front panel inside the station. It seems this station can handle non-T12 tips also.
No NTC in the handle. Has the ball switch (green barrel looking component).
White wire goes to ball switch, and switch goes to Blue wire via PCB.
Only 5 wires in the cable. Shake to wake works.
I just took delivery of a 6-pin 9501 FAKKO handle. It also only has 5 wires in the cable. No NTC installed.
Blue is soldered onto the DC GND tab in the handle.
White goes to the mercury switch, and that is also soldered on to the DC GND.
Works fine in my station, and shake to wake works.
In both handles, DC +ve, DC GND and Earth are all connected as yours (in the handle at least.)
I buzzed out the plugs, but never noted the PIN numbers. If you'd like I can re buzz them.
Wow! massive amount of info Collin, great job. 😀 Interesting variations you have highlighted over the different handles. I am actually quite fond of the discrete tip calibrations though, however you can feel the differences relating to tip size and thermal mass when it comes to bigger joints. Shouldn't try to cheat and just change the tip, haha.
It might be helpful to some others if you buzzed out the handles with pin numbers if you feel inclined. What's the tip to grip length like on the 907 compared to the 9501?
@@xyzconceptsYT Somehow I have it in my head you're in Perth. If you are, maybe I can let you have a look at it? It feels pretty comfy to me, but the tip protrudes further from the handle than the 9501.
Yeah, I might have mentioned it in a couple of my past videos or commenting on someone else's video. Yeah, been a Perthite (south) since my beginning.
After using all sorts of soldering irons over the years and getting into more and more SMD type work the shorter tip to grip tends to work out best for doing sub-millimetre joints.
@@xyzconceptsYT Are you involved with The Artifactory makerspace in Osborne Park? Been meaning to drop in and check the space out.
@@CollinBaillie I can't say that I am, sounds like a great idea though!