It’s awesome that Ford stepped up and started making these. You can search for NOS originals but they don’t exist anywhere. I have a 99 GT with its original plastic crossover and I dreaded having to put a Dorman on it.
@@NewEdgeDesigns The issue is with the rights holder. Ford partnered with a company, and that company owns the rights to the design of the original PI intake. So Ford partnered with Dorman to release this version that is MUCH higher quality and it has upgrades. Like the metal tube that goes to the heater core in the back. It used to be plastic, now its metal. They also upgraded the aluminum crossover in the front, its is now ALL aluminum down to where it mates with the engine. Before there was plastic underneath the aluminum crossover on the drivers side, where the thermostat goes. They also upgraded the plastic material, its much more better quality than the material used on the original PI. It also doesnt need gaskets because they are integrated. Its Ford quality that is UNMATCHED by any other brand out there. The design might affect horsepower by a tiny amount, but you have 4.6 that was released in 1993, so be happy or go find a used old P.I intake. If you want to go racing, get a better engine or a different car. ITS OLD NOW. The choice is yours. Its almost unheard of that a car company like Ford releases parts after DECADES later.
@@MustangFord I hear ya, still disappointing nonetheless.. I would just buy a bullitt intake off of EBay, or get a PI intake at the junkyard if mine ever has issues that can’t be repaired..
Bummer, was hoping the intake would outpower the original PI intake, especially since Ford has the boilerplate "Off-Road Use Only" on the intake's FRPP page.
IMHO.......the only thing that needs to be understood by the phrase "Off Road Use Only" is that this Ford replacement OEM PI intake manifold wasn't independently tested to certify compliance w\ the EPA Federal OEM emissions certification stds of the MY 4.6L 2V engines from 1999 thru 2004 & nothing else..........has nothing to do w\ any rated engine HP\TQ outputs based solely on this intake manifold's plenum & runner design. The truth is that this is more related to the cyl head's port velocity\volume design than the IM..........FWIW.
This was expected. Better than the dorman. And, really, except for the power loss, better than the oem pi intake in reliability with the improved crossover and the heater port. It is what it is.
Obviously selling this as a “Ford Performance” part is misleading, bordering on fraud, but one thing I see in the video that makes me happy is that the aluminum crossover FINALLY seals directly to the heads! Since almost every PI manifold fails where the plastic manifold and aluminum crossover meet, this new design should mean never having to replace the manifold again! I still wouldn’t use it on a car where performance is a concern, but for the countless panther cars and daily driver SN95s, it could be a decent option.
The old OEM PI intake was also sold under the Ford Performance brand. Like the new intake, the old intake was the "service part" of it's day. Ford Performance sells other OEM service parts under their brand because it's easier to market. They've been doing this since the early days. Thanks. -Landan
I'm sitting on quite a few intakes that I've used for my PI swapped 98 GT, including a rare HPS Hardballer and original FRPP SVO w/the matching SVO heads. That difference in performance and quality vary more than most realize. The coolant port towards the back has broken on at least 2 of my OE PI intakes. Personally I found this VERY interesting! I'm also glad Ford continues to offer new parts for their heritage vehicles. Great video I appreciate and enjoyed it very much!
@@davidduker4441 It looks like the coolant port for this new one is a two piece design and apparently the coolant port for this new intake is made out of metal. Also the thermostat housing is metal all the way through to the bottom where it meets the heads, where the original P.I intake and the Dorman are plastic underneath. A nice upgrade in that aspect for sure.
Some folks will shop price, others quality. My bet is the new PI intake is quite a bit higher than the Dorman which may put it out of reach, but definitely a viable alternative by the looks of this data! Thank you LMR and Ford Performance!
Honestly glad to see it’s a decent intake. Still far better than the Dorman, but not as good flowing as the old style PI. This is great part for a stock daily driver, for a more performance build, maybe wanna stick with the old style PI.
I suspect that the differences between the manifolds would become more apparent when tested on 4.6 2v that has additional modifications and requires more airflow.
The ports look large but that could just be the new geometry making it look that way. The runners also look shorter. If those things are true maybe this intake has a chance with more supporting mods and higher rpm
@tgc281 doubtful there's a picture running around with this new intake sitting right next to the old Ford Pi intake you can definitely see how short the runners are nothing but doorman lipstick on a pig replacement
@neilbrown82 they've already posted a picture of a side by side, only difference is dorman has an opening where the runners go into the valley but on the newer updated one it seems like they just enclosed the entire underpart
@@neilbrown82 Honestly, it seems more like the new intake is going to have more reliability over the Dorman intake (and older PI intakes). Reliability at the expense of a small loss in horsepower isn't bad in my book.
Usually you sound very convincing and excited about the products. Explaining this intake you almost sound disappointed. No hate, but the "new" ford intake is a dorman intake and pails in comparison to the OE pi intake. We can hear it in your voice. Lol, keep up the good work.
We’ve had very good luck with Dorman intakes in crown Vic’s. Definitely notice the torque coming on earlier which overall makes those boats quicker especially with 3.27 rear gear. And through hp tuners optimizing timing, fueling, etc we are still making good steam at 6000 rpm where we usually shift them out. 6200 on at the chip. Have never had any on a dyno but definitely works fantastic and super fun on the street as a daily!
I bought several Crown Victoria PI intakes brand new. They are currently out of stock, so this intake will suffice. I do love the crossover bolting directly to the heads, which means no more rotten plastic to fail. I'm currently in the market for another one, and this is the one I'll get.
They still sell the old intake manifold brand new you just gotta look around I found one at a ford dealership near Fresno glad I got the best out of the 3
Man to the people complaining you should appreciate that they stepped up and made this after having a list of 1000+ people on back order, regardless its a welcomed manifold in my eyes...in a market where all parts seem to be disappearing this is candy 🍬.
I'd be curious to test this intake on a good running two valve but with a nice tune... and see if we can't make it gain from this intake on a stock Factory Motor
Me too. My intake cracked almost 10 years ago and I got one of these brand new when they were still available. I just didn't want to have to deal with another intake cracking again. It bolted up just fine and everything fit without issues. Car has 201K on it now and it runs fine.
Would have been cool to see the numbers with the older 4.6l since it has the higher compression with the PI heads. I don't really seeing people swapping PI intakes for another PI intake unless theirs is damaged. The majority of people that put PI intakes on are the ones that are in the process of putting PI heads & expecting any kind of power boost.
Ok so what does this compare to a Typhoon intake? I know they have been discontinued for awhile but it's looking like the new Ford intake is a huge disappointment.. it's likely the best option we got unless the Typhoon can be made to give between 230 and 240 hp
Wow! I still favor the old P.I. Intake because I knew runner length was going to play a factor! However this I take is good for heavier vehicles such as Panther platform and trucks with this engine.
I mean it's better than the doorman but it still worse than the OEM Pi intake that's for sure I wouldn't want it on my Crown Vic that's probably why I have a typhoon intake
How are you supposed to attach the heater hose to this port? It comes with a plastic barb that locks in but it is a loose fit on my hose and caused a leak. It’s on a 2010 Lincoln town car.
Looking on the ford website they claim the following: Larger Bell Mouth, Shorter Runner, More Rounded Runner, and Deeper Plenum. So I'm thinking with bigger cams, better heads, higher flow exhaust and at higher RPM this intake should actually perform better...............
I have a 2009 CVPI 160k it’s my daily, I have a NOS original PI intake in the box, but that new Ford intake looks good. I feel that the original NOS may be a waste on my Vic, I don’t race I just drive it. Thinking about selling the NOS for a much more deserving car and buying the new Ford as it would be fine for my daily commute car.. please and thoughts be appreciated.
There’s still options, there’s a bullit intake on EBay right now for $1200 which I would gladly buy instead of this replacement piece of junk, it may be expensive but it’s one and done..
@@NewEdgeDesigns I agree staying N/A or going turbo/centrifugal the bullitt intake is the way to go. Why spend the $$$ buying the plastic intake 3 or 4 times over the life of the car instead of just a one and done bullitt (or trick flow) intake. As they say buy once cry once lol.
I bought two NOS ones when I heard they were being discontinued, both have build dates of June 2022. What are they worth? I already paid the inflated price of $550 per unit at the time.
You al made the Video ! Sucks the intakebmanifols makes less power. I plastic weld repair the PI intakes from the junkyard whenever I need one. Its a PITA but I save a little bit of cash
I have a 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis with what appears to be the original Ford PI manifold with aluminum crossover and gaskets. It recently got a small leak from the bottom side of the intake gasket, under near the thermostat. Can i keep my original intake, assuming good condition, and just replace the gaskets?
You'll have to remove it from the car and diagnose the leak. I'm just taking a guess, but it could be that the plastic is cracked causing the leak. That's usually what happens as I've replaced several PI intakes with this issue. Hopefully, it's just the gasket. Good luck! -Landan
No. The 5.4 has a taller deck height which makes it wider than a 4.6. They used to make adapters to run 4.6 intakes on 5.4 engines, but I haven't seen those around in a while. -Landan
You cant. You can either install P.I heads on your car. OR you can go see the ChrisFix video where he installs a P.I intake on his NPI Mustang 4.6 (1998). He rigs it so that it works but thats the risk you will be taking.
Thanks for the comment. Honestly, it could be that you just stick to a non-pi intake for simplicity. I've never personally installed a PI intake onto a non-PI cylinder head. Like someone else mentioned, dig around on the Internet and see what you can find. -Landan
Anyone tried this on a Lincoln Town Car? I have a 2009, looks like I would just have to plug the extra hole on the crossover? Looks like one is included? Anything else I’d need to know?
I can't speak on behalf of other brands, but I have found in my research some, not all, private label 4.6L PI intake manifolds use either the SKP or Dorman brand intake manifold. -Landan
They sell off brand PI intakes on EBay, has anyone tried one?? They are shaped exactly like the OG ford performance intake but have different mold markings on them.. I’m wondering if these will be the best option??
I can't speak for the intakes on eBay that look similar to the original Ford PI Intake. I've never seen one in person. Judging by the photos, the manifold chamber looks smaller than the original Ford Performance intake. That's just a guess, though. Maybe someone will chime in with real world experience and not just a "best guess". Thanks. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Thanks for the reply, after some research I’ve found some videos saying that they are an inch or so shorter up top and bottom.. So I’m assuming they aren’t as good as the PI intakes but maybe better than the redesigned (Dorman) new ford intake
So what I took from this is I'm just better off pulling a used one from a Junkyard panther platform car or finding an old style one for sale on ebay that was never taken out of its box like I did back in 2021 for my own crown vic
Ford should of used the original design, plain simple. Just like the new design, has better material and heater port. I would of bought two of them, an extra one for the long run.
Any coupon codes floating around? 👀 Have to re-order MMR solid steering rack bushings that I bought from you last year because I lost them 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Hey there. Thanks for the comment. We appreciate you considering us for your parts and sorry to hear that your misplaced some parts. At this time, we don't have any coupon codes. Thanks! -Landan
Plenty of people, since there's still a big market for the mod motor bolt-ons. I always love when r*t*rds like you play yourselves when you *think* you're being a hotshot 😆 🤣
Can Anyone tell me if this intake will fit a 2007 f150 4.6 2v. Mine is leaking and Ford has Discontinued the factory intake for the f150s. The Dorman has mixed reviews and I would like to use a Ford part as i believe it will last longer i do not care about hp gains or losses just longevity. Any thoughts or advise would be much appreciated Thanks!
What am I missing? My 2010 LTC already makes 239 HP and 287 fp of torque. The 2010 PI Crown Vic has 250 HP and 297 torque. This would be less HP and torque than my LTC.
Those ratings are at the engine's flywheel. It takes power to turn the drivetrain (transmission, driveshafts, axles, wheels). The horsepower and torque shown in the video is at the rear wheels. Think of rear wheel horsepower and torque as your take home pay after taxes are taken out. Let me know if you have any questions. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Thanks for that answer. I always thought the company specs were at the rear wheels. What is the crank HP and torque of the PI manifold engine or what is the rear wheel rating for a stock 2010 LTC?
@@altg5708 I don't know the rear wheel horsepower and torque numbers of a Lincoln Town car since I've never dyno'd one. I have dyno'd a Crown Vic. I'll leave a link below. -Landan ruclips.net/video/l7J6T6i6N5E/видео.html
Speaking on behalf of Mustangs since that is what we do, the PI (Power Improved) cylinder heads were used on all 1999-2004 Mustang GTs. This intake would serve as a replacement if you need one. Thanks! -Landan
It’s awesome that Ford stepped up and started making these. You can search for NOS originals but they don’t exist anywhere. I have a 99 GT with its original plastic crossover and I dreaded having to put a Dorman on it.
Going to start hoarding good condition used original PI intake manifolds 😂
Can you sell me one 👀
lol don’t gate keep, give us a price! 😂
lol I already have 6 mint condition ones sitting in my basement
My 66 Mustang has an original pi intake on it. Been waiting for it to start leaking coolant. What’s the max boost number I wonder?
@Karston_ I've replaced 100s of these intakes on crown vics over the years. If only I knew they would be worth keeping.
At least there's options now, and cant beat Ford OEM quality. This is the new standard for 2Vs.
Surprised no one can manufacture a superior manifold
It’s trash!! You can clearly see the design is quite close to the old Dorman crab, I don’t understand what the issue is with making the OG..
@@NewEdgeDesigns The issue is with the rights holder. Ford partnered with a company, and that company owns the rights to the design of the original PI intake.
So Ford partnered with Dorman to release this version that is MUCH higher quality and it has upgrades. Like the metal tube that goes to the heater core in the back. It used to be plastic, now its metal.
They also upgraded the aluminum crossover in the front, its is now ALL aluminum down to where it mates with the engine. Before there was plastic underneath the aluminum crossover on the drivers side, where the thermostat goes.
They also upgraded the plastic material, its much more better quality than the material used on the original PI.
It also doesnt need gaskets because they are integrated.
Its Ford quality that is UNMATCHED by any other brand out there.
The design might affect horsepower by a tiny amount, but you have 4.6 that was released in 1993, so be happy or go find a used old P.I intake.
If you want to go racing, get a better engine or a different car. ITS OLD NOW.
The choice is yours.
Its almost unheard of that a car company like Ford releases parts after DECADES later.
@@MustangFord I hear ya, still disappointing nonetheless.. I would just buy a bullitt intake off of EBay, or get a PI intake at the junkyard if mine ever has issues that can’t be repaired..
Dude just buy the new intake from Ford. I had it in my hands. Its a solid part. @NewEdgeDesigns
So happy that I found an old PI intake used back in June.
Bummer, was hoping the intake would outpower the original PI intake, especially since Ford has the boilerplate "Off-Road Use Only" on the intake's FRPP page.
IMHO.......the only thing that needs to be understood by the phrase "Off Road Use Only" is that this Ford replacement OEM PI intake manifold wasn't independently tested to certify compliance w\ the EPA Federal OEM emissions certification stds of the MY 4.6L 2V engines from 1999 thru 2004 & nothing else..........has nothing to do w\ any rated engine HP\TQ outputs based solely on this intake manifold's plenum & runner design. The truth is that this is more related to the cyl head's port velocity\volume design than the IM..........FWIW.
Thank you. I was one of the original people tagging asking for a dyno and yall delivered.
I love that the new intakes water nipple is replaceable now.
Love your videos on the 2v!
So, in conclusion, the new Ford intake is better than Dorman, but still shittier than OG intake.
But more durable where it counts I guess, wish they updated the older one than the dorman version
Slightly shittier. 10 horsepower is a very negligible difference. There are a LOT of different variables here.
And expensive af
@@NightmareKatothats quite big honestly
@@NightmareKato thats a lot of power for these cars lol
Damn how'd they make it worse. Good video though, good transparency and showing the testing on the parts you sell
This was expected. Better than the dorman. And, really, except for the power loss, better than the oem pi intake in reliability with the improved crossover and the heater port. It is what it is.
And the loss in HP is really negligible. 10HP isn't even a big deal. 50 is.
Nothing some porting can solve
Thank you for taking the time to test this. It’s greatly appreciated!
I literally found the last OEM Ford Pi intake from the Ford Dealership here in Texas the day before this was announced … I drove 3 hours to get it
Obviously selling this as a “Ford Performance” part is misleading, bordering on fraud, but one thing I see in the video that makes me happy is that the aluminum crossover FINALLY seals directly to the heads! Since almost every PI manifold fails where the plastic manifold and aluminum crossover meet, this new design should mean never having to replace the manifold again! I still wouldn’t use it on a car where performance is a concern, but for the countless panther cars and daily driver SN95s, it could be a decent option.
The old OEM PI intake was also sold under the Ford Performance brand. Like the new intake, the old intake was the "service part" of it's day. Ford Performance sells other OEM service parts under their brand because it's easier to market. They've been doing this since the early days. Thanks. -Landan
Got my OG pi manifold from mhs brand new like 2 years ago so glad i didnt wait
Bullitt Mustangs having an aluminum intake from the factory is the gift that keeps on giving lmaooo
Hmmm...Yeah!
True, but they're stupid expensive on eBay.
@@yeanah2571But they last forever right
Besides heat soak and 30 pounds of extra weight.. I’m going to start going to junkyards and collecting OG PI’s
I'm sitting on quite a few intakes that I've used for my PI swapped 98 GT, including a rare HPS Hardballer and original FRPP SVO w/the matching SVO heads. That difference in performance and quality vary more than most realize. The coolant port towards the back has broken on at least 2 of my OE PI intakes. Personally I found this VERY interesting! I'm also glad Ford continues to offer new parts for their heritage vehicles. Great video I appreciate and enjoyed it very much!
I also had many issues with the Dorman product, it can work but is IMHO the worst choice
@@davidduker4441 It looks like the coolant port for this new one is a two piece design and apparently the coolant port for this new intake is made out of metal. Also the thermostat housing is metal all the way through to the bottom where it meets the heads, where the original P.I intake and the Dorman are plastic underneath. A nice upgrade in that aspect for sure.
Thank you so much for doing this. Will continue to purchase from you over the other guys.
I’m just here to say project keeping comp looks so much better with those saleen reps
Thank you for posting this video. It's good to see numbers on the new hardware plus a comp with the older stuff.
Some folks will shop price, others quality. My bet is the new PI intake is quite a bit higher than the Dorman which may put it out of reach, but definitely a viable alternative by the looks of this data! Thank you LMR and Ford Performance!
Honestly glad to see it’s a decent intake. Still far better than the Dorman, but not as good flowing as the old style PI. This is great part for a stock daily driver, for a more performance build, maybe wanna stick with the old style PI.
I suspect that the differences between the manifolds would become more apparent when tested on 4.6 2v that has additional modifications and requires more airflow.
I wonder how bad it would be on my engine with trickflow heads, stage 1 cams and stainless works complete exhaust system on my crown vic
The ports look large but that could just be the new geometry making it look that way. The runners also look shorter. If those things are true maybe this intake has a chance with more supporting mods and higher rpm
@tgc281 doubtful there's a picture running around with this new intake sitting right next to the old Ford Pi intake you can definitely see how short the runners are nothing but doorman lipstick on a pig replacement
@neilbrown82 they've already posted a picture of a side by side, only difference is dorman has an opening where the runners go into the valley but on the newer updated one it seems like they just enclosed the entire underpart
@@neilbrown82 Honestly, it seems more like the new intake is going to have more reliability over the Dorman intake (and older PI intakes). Reliability at the expense of a small loss in horsepower isn't bad in my book.
Usually you sound very convincing and excited about the products. Explaining this intake you almost sound disappointed. No hate, but the "new" ford intake is a dorman intake and pails in comparison to the OE pi intake. We can hear it in your voice. Lol, keep up the good work.
Says who you? I've replaced 2 of them. The 3rd is a typhoon satin intake. No more leaks and no more cracking.
Appreciate you Landon you do a great job
We’ve had very good luck with Dorman intakes in crown Vic’s. Definitely notice the torque coming on earlier which overall makes those boats quicker especially with 3.27 rear gear. And through hp tuners optimizing timing, fueling, etc we are still making good steam at 6000 rpm where we usually shift them out. 6200 on at the chip. Have never had any on a dyno but definitely works fantastic and super fun on the street as a daily!
Was hoping it was better, those runners look different, but the ports are huge compared to Dorman.
“Used” I found a brand new OEM OG PI Ford intake unused. Cost like $600 tho. They’re still out there.
Im stickin with the old one. I got 2 of em ima find some more. But dude that new one looks so much better
I bought several Crown Victoria PI intakes brand new. They are currently out of stock, so this intake will suffice. I do love the crossover bolting directly to the heads, which means no more rotten plastic to fail. I'm currently in the market for another one, and this is the one I'll get.
Will this fit 2008 crown Vic police inteceptor
I been waiting for this video
Have the old pi intake. Wouldn't change it. To make up for lose of torque down low I have aluminum flywheel and 4.1o's. Spins up fast af.
If you wanted to spin up fast a heavier flywheel such as a billet steel would have been a better choice
@neilbrown82 sorry bud your wrong.
@@shadowsfad3d lol 😆 😂 🤣 😅 😄 😜
@@neilbrown82 Heavier weight = reduced throttle response and slower "spin up"
@@neilbrown82 More mass equals less accelleration, because it requires more energy to get up to speed. You clearly have not done high school physics.
They still sell the old intake manifold brand new you just gotta look around I found one at a ford dealership near Fresno glad I got the best out of the 3
Fresno be sitting on them same with clovis
Landan & LMR, thank you.
I like the modern look of it and seems like it performs the same
Open your eyes
I put a factory oem PI intake on my 97 tbird in 2001. Is this another revision? Looks to be.
Man to the people complaining you should appreciate that they stepped up and made this after having a list of 1000+ people on back order, regardless its a welcomed manifold in my eyes...in a market where all parts seem to be disappearing this is candy 🍬.
I'd be curious to test this intake on a good running two valve but with a nice tune... and see if we can't make it gain from this intake on a stock Factory Motor
It seems like he didn’t feel like doing this video…time to get a new lmr employee
Probably cause he was disappointed the new intake robs power compared to the old intake. How are you supposed to act excited about that? Lol
Im glad I have a professional products aluminum intake.
Me too. My intake cracked almost 10 years ago and I got one of these brand new when they were still available. I just didn't want to have to deal with another intake cracking again. It bolted up just fine and everything fit without issues. Car has 201K on it now and it runs fine.
@@Flathead-fb5tkdo you remember the link or part number
I'm curious how they'd compare when boosted
I have the Dorman one but don’t notice a performance decrease but everyone is different I guess
But will it work on non PI heads from 1996?
Would have been cool to see the numbers with the older 4.6l since it has the higher compression with the PI heads. I don't really seeing people swapping PI intakes for another PI intake unless theirs is damaged. The majority of people that put PI intakes on are the ones that are in the process of putting PI heads & expecting any kind of power boost.
I have the 2000 intake stored in my garage I removed it when I installed a kenne bell
Fortunately, I have several of the old PI intakes just hanging around.....
Ok so what does this compare to a Typhoon intake? I know they have been discontinued for awhile but it's looking like the new Ford intake is a huge disappointment.. it's likely the best option we got unless the Typhoon can be made to give between 230 and 240 hp
Looks like the value of my Bullitt intake just went up
Same. Even though i'll never sell it
Wow! I still favor the old P.I. Intake because I knew runner length was going to play a factor! However this I take is good for heavier vehicles such as Panther platform and trucks with this engine.
I mean it's better than the doorman but it still worse than the OEM Pi intake that's for sure I wouldn't want it on my Crown Vic that's probably why I have a typhoon intake
@@neilbrown82 I guess it will do as a stock replacement but for performance there are better options.
prices for used old PI intake are going to skyrocket folks will be asking a grand for one now
Yep market conditions
*IF* you can find one. These douchebags who have "5 of them in my basement" really chap my ass.
There’s bullit intakes for 1200 so they can’t go too high..
Going Vic Jr when mine gives up
yea that’s what i’m doing i just found a used pi intake so we’ll see how long it last
Lol vic Jr is a single plane designed for 5500+ rpm so u will lose power under 5500 rpm 😂
@@neilbrown82 cars gonna be cammed with ported heads 🫣
@@neilbrown82 Yes, shorter runners = higher RPM, everyone is aware
@@neilbrown82 You gotta rev a 281...
The trick flow top end is the best deal with what people charge for ported PI heads now.
Everything I ran an aftermarket I take with the flat runners like that one it killed my top in.
What about the dna intake and the edlebrock jr
ATP sells a pretty close replica to the OEM with the same runner setup
Can this be used on a 04 crown vic interceptor?
Yes. -Landan
How are you supposed to attach the heater hose to this port? It comes with a plastic barb that locks in but it is a loose fit on my hose and caused a leak. It’s on a 2010 Lincoln town car.
You have to install the provided barb into the gray fitting. It only goes one way. -Landan
I have a 96 gt, and it has the dorman one. Can I use the new Pi intake manifold in it?
Not unless you or someone else did a PI head swap. -Landan
Looking on the ford website they claim the following: Larger Bell Mouth, Shorter Runner, More Rounded Runner, and Deeper Plenum. So I'm thinking with bigger cams, better heads, higher flow exhaust and at higher RPM this intake should actually perform better...............
I have a 2009 CVPI 160k it’s my daily, I have a NOS original PI intake in the box, but that new Ford intake looks good. I feel that the original NOS may be a waste on my Vic, I don’t race I just drive it. Thinking about selling the NOS for a much more deserving car and buying the new Ford as it would be fine for my daily commute car.. please and thoughts be appreciated.
Just list it and see what happens. If you sell it, buy the "new" Ford PI intake. -Landan
Looks like I’m just going to go twin screw once my 4 year “old” PI intake cracks. That was the plan anyway lol.
There’s still options, there’s a bullit intake on EBay right now for $1200 which I would gladly buy instead of this replacement piece of junk, it may be expensive but it’s one and done..
@@NewEdgeDesigns I agree staying N/A or going turbo/centrifugal the bullitt intake is the way to go. Why spend the $$$ buying the plastic intake 3 or 4 times over the life of the car instead of just a one and done bullitt (or trick flow) intake. As they say buy once cry once lol.
I bought two NOS ones when I heard they were being discontinued, both have build dates of June 2022. What are they worth? I already paid the inflated price of $550 per unit at the time.
Has anyone tried the summit racing one? It looks identical to the new Ford ones. Would like to see dyno numbers.
Why would ford not make an intake that increases hp!
Thank you
this can bolt on my 2011 panther right ? with everything thats included in the new pi intake ?
If your car is a 4.6 2V it will bolt on perfectly.
Yes. This intake will work for your application. -Landan
You al made the Video ! Sucks the intakebmanifols makes less power.
I plastic weld repair the PI intakes from the junkyard whenever I need one. Its a PITA but I save a little bit of cash
Can you replace that intake with a Ecoboost mustang 😮
I keep hearing “2V bros”… where is the love for the “4V guys” 😔 I just wanna build my Mark 8 🤭
Wont work on my 09 crown vic ????
It’ll work
I have a 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis with what appears to be the original Ford PI manifold with aluminum crossover and gaskets. It recently got a small leak from the bottom side of the intake gasket, under near the thermostat. Can i keep my original intake, assuming good condition, and just replace the gaskets?
You'll have to remove it from the car and diagnose the leak. I'm just taking a guess, but it could be that the plastic is cracked causing the leak. That's usually what happens as I've replaced several PI intakes with this issue. Hopefully, it's just the gasket. Good luck! -Landan
Good intel good intel
Will this work on a 5.4 block with 4.6 pi heads?
No. The 5.4 has a taller deck height which makes it wider than a 4.6. They used to make adapters to run 4.6 intakes on 5.4 engines, but I haven't seen those around in a while. -Landan
@ I thought so, thanks for the reply
Will this fit a 2010 Crown victoria?
Yes
Yes
so how do i fit one on a 98 npi engine? crown vic. ty for the review
You cant. You can either install P.I heads on your car. OR you can go see the ChrisFix video where he installs a P.I intake on his NPI Mustang 4.6 (1998). He rigs it so that it works but thats the risk you will be taking.
Thanks for the comment. Honestly, it could be that you just stick to a non-pi intake for simplicity. I've never personally installed a PI intake onto a non-PI cylinder head. Like someone else mentioned, dig around on the Internet and see what you can find. -Landan
Speed master adapter plates 4.6 npi to 4.6 pi intake.
@@akkmdk sweet! sure beats rtv
@@akkmdk What the..why have I never come across this before in all my searching. Have you tried these plates? Also, thank you!
Can I run this in an 06 f150 with a 4.6 2v?
No. -Landan
The new intake looks nice tho!!!!
Old PI intake is the best but you honestly can barely feel that much power loss. 4.6 at the end of the day needs a blower and you will never look back
Got to try to find a Trick Flow or Bullit intake
Can find them just the $1000 price tag doesn’t justify buying it
Anyone tried this on a Lincoln Town Car? I have a 2009, looks like I would just have to plug the extra hole on the crossover? Looks like one is included? Anything else I’d need to know?
Yes, this intake will work with your 2009 Lincoln town car. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Thank you!
Can someone make a boss 302 version intake for the 2v please? So i can have an excuse to throw turbos on it.
5:44 😂
Has anyone had success with the OPR Replacement PI Intake Manifold ??
I can't speak on behalf of other brands, but I have found in my research some, not all, private label 4.6L PI intake manifolds use either the SKP or Dorman brand intake manifold. -Landan
Can I use this manifold on my Grand Marquis 😂?
Yes. -Landan
They sell off brand PI intakes on EBay, has anyone tried one?? They are shaped exactly like the OG ford performance intake but have different mold markings on them.. I’m wondering if these will be the best option??
I can't speak for the intakes on eBay that look similar to the original Ford PI Intake. I've never seen one in person. Judging by the photos, the manifold chamber looks smaller than the original Ford Performance intake. That's just a guess, though. Maybe someone will chime in with real world experience and not just a "best guess". Thanks. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Thanks for the reply, after some research I’ve found some videos saying that they are an inch or so shorter up top and bottom.. So I’m assuming they aren’t as good as the PI intakes but maybe better than the redesigned (Dorman) new ford intake
@@NewEdgeDesigns Glad you were able to find some info. Good luck with whatever route you take. -Landan
has anyone ran the autotecnica FD1413042 manifold on their 2v? i wonder how it stacks up against these
Used old style PI intakes will now go for 500+
So what I took from this is I'm just better off pulling a used one from a Junkyard panther platform car or finding an old style one for sale on ebay that was never taken out of its box like I did back in 2021 for my own crown vic
Lowkey disappointed. The hunt for a NOS old PI intake begins.
Lowkey good luck
Just fine in aluminum typhoon intake and do a little porting work on it and you're good to go
@@neilbrown82 Have you seen how much those are used? $1,500 no thanks.
@@TheNightmare692009 lol you can definitely find them for under $1,000 if you look good thing my vic already has one
You won't find one
Ford should of used the original design, plain simple. Just like the new design, has better material and heater port. I would of bought two of them, an extra one for the long run.
Basically, a direct fit replacement for the original one that you can now buy directly from Ford.
Man, what a bummer. Ford has the intelligent folks and the manufacturing capability to literally just copy the old PI intake, and they chose not to.
Any coupon codes floating around? 👀 Have to re-order MMR solid steering rack bushings that I bought from you last year because I lost them 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Hey there. Thanks for the comment. We appreciate you considering us for your parts and sorry to hear that your misplaced some parts. At this time, we don't have any coupon codes. Thanks! -Landan
@latemodelrestoration Alright, thanks for the reply. I already ordered last night anyway 👍
@@sategllib2191 Thank you for your business! We really appreciate it! -Landan
Disappointing but thanks for the great information and the time.
Lame af. You guys should start making copies of the old pi intake.
For a whopping 10HP difference? Really?
@@RyTrapp0yes
eBay has off brand OG PI intakes, anyone try them yet??
Almost spit my drink out when you said we’re talking about 9-10 hp on a 2 valve mustang making under 300 whp 😂 you’re right. Who cares
that is true, but when you want all you can get from a slow, stock engine without spending like 6 thousand to make it actually start to wake up…
Plenty of people, since there's still a big market for the mod motor bolt-ons.
I always love when r*t*rds like you play yourselves when you *think* you're being a hotshot 😆 🤣
Those who care about losing 9-10 hp on a 2 valve mustang making under 300 whp 😂you're wrong. They care.
I think the point here with the 10hp is that it confirms it’s not a copy of the dorman and it’s a quality built part that won’t lose you hp
@@gregd829but it does lose over 10hp against a stock PI intake 😂
Can Anyone tell me if this intake will fit a 2007 f150 4.6 2v. Mine is leaking and Ford has Discontinued the factory intake for the f150s. The Dorman has mixed reviews and I would like to use a Ford part as i believe it will last longer i do not care about hp gains or losses just longevity. Any thoughts or advise would be much appreciated Thanks!
No. Although it will physically bolt up, there were other attaching pieces that were specific to the F-150 intake manifold. -Landan
@latemodelrestoration Thank you for your Response!
lol I over bought two back in 2021 now I got two spare pi intakes in storage
Let me buy one
What am I missing? My 2010 LTC already makes 239 HP and 287 fp of torque. The 2010 PI Crown Vic has 250 HP and 297 torque. This would be less HP and torque than my LTC.
Those ratings are at the engine's flywheel. It takes power to turn the drivetrain (transmission, driveshafts, axles, wheels). The horsepower and torque shown in the video is at the rear wheels. Think of rear wheel horsepower and torque as your take home pay after taxes are taken out. Let me know if you have any questions. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Thanks for that answer. I always thought the company specs were at the rear wheels. What is the crank HP and torque of the PI manifold engine or what is the rear wheel rating for a stock 2010 LTC?
@@altg5708 I don't know the rear wheel horsepower and torque numbers of a Lincoln Town car since I've never dyno'd one. I have dyno'd a Crown Vic. I'll leave a link below. -Landan
ruclips.net/video/l7J6T6i6N5E/видео.html
I can’t believe they made an intake that makes less power than the original.
You don’t need this if you own a 99+ right?
Fits 99-04 if u got PI heads
I mean if your current intake cracks or something, you'll need it
*Edit* I forgot that Mustangs got PI starting with the first year of New Edge. Trucks and Crown Vics got PI in 01, hence the confusion.
@yeanah2571 mustangs got the pi treatment in 99
Speaking on behalf of Mustangs since that is what we do, the PI (Power Improved) cylinder heads were used on all 1999-2004 Mustang GTs. This intake would serve as a replacement if you need one. Thanks! -Landan
Hey Landan. I’ll take that oem intake manifold in the video for 1k
Thanks for the offer, but it isn't for sale. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration😂 It was worth a shot 🤷🏼♂️ I found one from a parts store in Mexico for $960 shipped after 3 months of searching every night.
My man is tripping over himself trying not to say anything bad about the mid new intake.