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HUGE difference. The extra VRAM makes such a difference. No matter the VRAM combination on my Ally Extreme (4gb, 6gb, 8gb, auto) some games are a stuttering mess with horrible texture pop in. The Ally X cleans most of this up (Last of Us Remastered is a perfect example). Battery life! You can finally have more flexibility with tdp witbout being stuck near a wall socket! The Ally X was what the Ally was supposed to be upon release. +Twice the battery size + 24gb of RAM (crank up those texture settings without sweating or low texture pop in/hitching) + X2 USB ports (thank GOD!) + SD card slot that doesn't burn out (my SD slot died on my Ally Extreme) + Full size SSD! Upgraded to 4tb
I’m going to wait until I can find one for under $400 until I upgrade. The Z1E is perfectly competent for now and I’m eagerly waiting for the Switch 2.
At this point I feel like the smartest move would be to wait for the next generation since there's already talks of the Z2 Extreme models potentially releasing early next year.
Just got the original Ally the other day because of a great Black Friday sale at Best Buy, whereas the Ally X was full price. So far the OG Ally has been incredible and I am unbelievably happy with it
My policy has always been DO NOT buy entry level unupgradeable mobile devices like laptops, phones, and handhelds. So just don't buy the non-Z1X version original Ally. You'll more likely find yourself wanting to play heavier titles during the lifespan of the device.
I brought my rog ally z1 extreme earlier today for 399 brand new and its incredible I see no sense in paying 800 for a small increase in performance, being able to stream game pass as well as play natively in insane
This is one of those situations where I wish we could combine the best features of competing products. The Steam Deck OLED’s screen with the Ally X’s internals would be fantastic. Maybe the Steam Deck’s trackpads too, because Windows really needs an input method other than just a touch screen, and I don’t want to have to carry a mouse around everywhere.
The Ally X is definitively what the Ally needed to be from the beginning. Having both myself, I don't even really touch my Ally anymore since I got the X. And I don't really play heavy titles on them, the second USB port, and them both being USB 4 is alone enough to recommend the X over the base ally. And the only point I can really take to suggest someone go with the base ally is if they are only playing 2d titles and emulating older consoles because you can save a ton of money going for the base Z1 and get a great emulation beast with an awesome screen. On that same note, for those same people that are focusing on emulation I really kind of recommend getting a Steam Deck instead, weather you get the older LCD model, or the Newer OLED model, it is also just a beast of an emulation handheld, and you never have to faff about with windows, aside from a little setup time in desktop mode to get the emulators installed, the rest of your time is in gaming mode and just enjoying the games. Yea, you can setup the ally with bazzite, or autolaunch steam big picture mode, but it's just not the same. Waiting for the eventual release of SteamOS for everyone.
When I went to ASUS HQ, I wanted the Ally X to have the Strix Point chipset in the handheld. At the time, the reps said that it was too expensive. Hopefully that changes soon.
Yup. Personally, I understand that good, new tech is pricey. But from a business sense it wouldn't be wise for ASUS to push past the $1,000 mark. At least, that's what I think. I think $600-$800 is ideal.
I do not regret going from SD Oled to Rog Ally X. Battery and Performance are solid. Armoury Crate is underrated and really does a lot of the heavy lifting. Steam Deck UI of course looks better and easy to jump in a game, but when we talk about desktop experience, Microsoft is still better. Don’t need to go through hoops to install stuff in Konsole or find specific folders. Although OLED looks nice, VRR and be able to get more performance on AAA titles or higher end emulation is nice to have.
Great video! I have the Ally and I rarely use it because of the battery. I like to use it with my AR glasses but it's hard to do with only 40 minutes of battery. You hit on every point that I was wondering about. Thanks!
@@knowwherefamous9067 I noticed the sound on my ally x wasn’t near as good as my og ally z1x. The right R2 button would randomly fire weapons without me touching it and some times the screen would snap to the left in game which was weird. I ultimately returned it because it was creaking while holding and the L1/R1 buttons made a lot of noise.
I have a steam deck and an rog Ally Z1 extreme. So far I like Windows on a handheld because I can do everything with it. But for some reason the simplicity of steam OS makes turning on the system and jumping into a game. Very quick and simple, but for some reason I really wish my rog Ally battery lasted way longer and I feel steam deck Is amazing! But I can feel how underpowered it is, even though it's running many of the games My rog Ally runs but at slower frame rates. I just wish Sony your Xbox would just make a dedicated handheld that has all the functionality that a steam deck or rog Ally has in the gaming space, but just with the features we're used to on a console now I see why Nintendo made the move they made and have been such a big success. Nintendo are innovators and that's what's missing on the software side in the gaming industry. The hardware seems to be okay, but the software implementations are years behind where they should be, especially with Windows on a handheld.. What the hell is Microsoft doing? They had a whole tablet division and still can't figure this out lol 😂
@@_BBAGG_ what makes it an upgrade over either? Both are more powerful and with bazzite can enjoy steam os ....the deck does have the better display though
@@gcforreal For me personally, The OLED display, much better battery life and better form factor are what make me enjoy using it over my Ally. I have a PC if I want my games to look good, the steam deck Oled has everything I need from a portable device
Our local electric store in Germany has made a 20% off of everything they sell. got an Rog Ally X for 720€ after tax. thats like 750$. the normal price for the ally X over here is like 890$ after tax.
I personally believe it would be more logical to purchase the Ally Z1 Extreme for $449 and use the money you saved for the Zotac Zone, which is rumored to have an upgradable RAM system. Money isn't a problem for me, but I can't justify a $300 price increase for a 10% performance gain. As for the larger battery, you can compromise with a 40W power bank to get you on par with the X. If you spend another $130 you can pick up a 2 TB SSD and you'll have 5-10% less performance than the X...
Debating as both are on sale at best buy. Almsot got the Ally Z1 Extreme a fee weeks ago when they did a gaming sale but. I wasnt sure if the price increase to rhe ally X was worth it or not.
Is this worth getting if I own a steam deck? I was considering getting it for fps and 3rd person shooter games. And maybe try and use it for photo editing if that’s possible which I’m sure it is since it’s a windows handheld.
I'm more than happy with my OG Ally Z1 Extreme. I picked it up used but mint in box for £250, when similar used mint in box Ally X is £600. No way is the improvements worth the price difference if you have a good power bank. When the Ally 2 comes out I will look at it again and see if the new generation is worth the extra money. Either that or the prices of the Ally X will come down and I'll make the upgrade as the price difference won't be as big.
Can you use external GPUs with the ally X? Or is the only option the Ally Z1X with their proprietary mobile GPU? And is the ally Z1X with the external GPU better performance wise than the ally X?
I agree with you the grip isn’t that much better over the original ally. The oled deck and msi claw have the best ergonomics to date. I returned my x for other reasons and resorted back to my z1x with ally x battery mod. If you go back to a windows handheld try out bazzite. It’s essentially steam os for the windows handhelds and it’s amazing to use. That’s how my ally is set up and it feels just like my previous deck oled.
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best buy has 100 off the X...blackfriday deal
I just saw that! That's a hell of a deal.
@@baldlyrudyI was debating to buy but this is the time to buy
@@dacbiet I just got mine & if I dont like it I'll return it
250 off open box
Went for the Ally X when it went $100 off today. Cheers! 🎉
Still $200 more than the regular Z1 Extreme.
The ROG Ally Z1X 512GB was 400 USD last week on Walmart. One hell of a deal.
Proof- don’t believe it. Had to be the og z1
HUGE difference. The extra VRAM makes such a difference. No matter the VRAM combination on my Ally Extreme (4gb, 6gb, 8gb, auto) some games are a stuttering mess with horrible texture pop in. The Ally X cleans most of this up (Last of Us Remastered is a perfect example).
Battery life! You can finally have more flexibility with tdp witbout being stuck near a wall socket! The Ally X was what the Ally was supposed to be upon release.
+Twice the battery size
+ 24gb of RAM (crank up those texture settings without sweating or low texture pop in/hitching)
+ X2 USB ports (thank GOD!)
+ SD card slot that doesn't burn out (my SD slot died on my Ally Extreme)
+ Full size SSD! Upgraded to 4tb
I completely agree with you!
Stalker2, Starfield or Cyberpunk2077 runs way better on Ally X.
@@lechistanskiswit320 I couldn't get my Ally X's controller to work for Stalker 2 via GamePass 😞 heard some Steam users are having the same issue
@@kickconnection83 Damn - I play GamePass version. Sorry :(
Just feels like somewhat of a waste of $800 when in a year they come out with the 2 and it’s way better.
I’m going to wait until I can find one for under $400 until I upgrade. The Z1E is perfectly competent for now and I’m eagerly waiting for the Switch 2.
At this point I feel like the smartest move would be to wait for the next generation since there's already talks of the Z2 Extreme models potentially releasing early next year.
I hope I get to see them at CES in January.
Bought an Ally X, while charging and off it got extremely hot, returned it. Not waiting to have to deal with an RMA.
Just got the original Ally the other day because of a great Black Friday sale at Best Buy, whereas the Ally X was full price. So far the OG Ally has been incredible and I am unbelievably happy with it
@@Sloopdoop I got mine today and I feel the exact same way, the fact you can pc game on a handheld is incredible
My policy has always been DO NOT buy entry level unupgradeable mobile devices like laptops, phones, and handhelds. So just don't buy the non-Z1X version original Ally. You'll more likely find yourself wanting to play heavier titles during the lifespan of the device.
I brought my rog ally z1 extreme earlier today for 399 brand new and its incredible I see no sense in paying 800 for a small increase in performance, being able to stream game pass as well as play natively in insane
@@ek3jay828 where'd you find that deal?
@@ek3jay828 dang how did you get it at 399
@ that’s the current price here in the uk in curry’s,Argos and Amazon uk it’s currently at 399 Black Friday deal
@@ek3jay828 oh so in pounds. Ya similar deal at best buy here in the US as well. How is it so far?
This is one of those situations where I wish we could combine the best features of competing products. The Steam Deck OLED’s screen with the Ally X’s internals would be fantastic. Maybe the Steam Deck’s trackpads too, because Windows really needs an input method other than just a touch screen, and I don’t want to have to carry a mouse around everywhere.
I'm from the UK and brought the z1x last for £400. Bargin. Been loving it
It’s funny that Ally went from white to black while steam deck went from black to white
If the fan of Ally X is loud, turn off CPU Boost in Armory Crate and that solves it
Yeah. Same with Asus gaming laptops.
The Ally X is definitively what the Ally needed to be from the beginning. Having both myself, I don't even really touch my Ally anymore since I got the X. And I don't really play heavy titles on them, the second USB port, and them both being USB 4 is alone enough to recommend the X over the base ally. And the only point I can really take to suggest someone go with the base ally is if they are only playing 2d titles and emulating older consoles because you can save a ton of money going for the base Z1 and get a great emulation beast with an awesome screen.
On that same note, for those same people that are focusing on emulation I really kind of recommend getting a Steam Deck instead, weather you get the older LCD model, or the Newer OLED model, it is also just a beast of an emulation handheld, and you never have to faff about with windows, aside from a little setup time in desktop mode to get the emulators installed, the rest of your time is in gaming mode and just enjoying the games. Yea, you can setup the ally with bazzite, or autolaunch steam big picture mode, but it's just not the same. Waiting for the eventual release of SteamOS for everyone.
I hope they apply all the ally x knowledge towards a strix point handheld
When I went to ASUS HQ, I wanted the Ally X to have the Strix Point chipset in the handheld. At the time, the reps said that it was too expensive. Hopefully that changes soon.
@@baldlyrudy that’s understandable. people already complain about the price and with that it very well could be $1000+
Yup. Personally, I understand that good, new tech is pricey. But from a business sense it wouldn't be wise for ASUS to push past the $1,000 mark. At least, that's what I think. I think $600-$800 is ideal.
@@baldlyrudyfor sure
I do not regret going from SD Oled to Rog Ally X. Battery and Performance are solid. Armoury Crate is underrated and really does a lot of the heavy lifting. Steam Deck UI of course looks better and easy to jump in a game, but when we talk about desktop experience, Microsoft is still better. Don’t need to go through hoops to install stuff in Konsole or find specific folders. Although OLED looks nice, VRR and be able to get more performance on AAA titles or higher end emulation is nice to have.
Great video! I have the Ally and I rarely use it because of the battery. I like to use it with my AR glasses but it's hard to do with only 40 minutes of battery. You hit on every point that I was wondering about. Thanks!
I love my Ally X! The only nit pick is the bass in the speakers seems worse in the ally x
@@knowwherefamous9067 I noticed the sound on my ally x wasn’t near as good as my og ally z1x. The right R2 button would randomly fire weapons without me touching it and some times the screen would snap to the left in game which was weird. I ultimately returned it because it was creaking while holding and the L1/R1 buttons made a lot of noise.
@@knowwherefamous9067 you have to turb off dolby effect that it or delete it.
use fxsound instead
I have a steam deck and an rog Ally Z1 extreme. So far I like Windows on a handheld because I can do everything with it. But for some reason the simplicity of steam OS makes turning on the system and jumping into a game. Very quick and simple, but for some reason I really wish my rog Ally battery lasted way longer and I feel steam deck Is amazing! But I can feel how underpowered it is, even though it's running many of the games My rog Ally runs but at slower frame rates. I just wish Sony your Xbox would just make a dedicated handheld that has all the functionality that a steam deck or rog Ally has in the gaming space, but just with the features we're used to on a console now I see why Nintendo made the move they made and have been such a big success. Nintendo are innovators and that's what's missing on the software side in the gaming industry. The hardware seems to be okay, but the software implementations are years behind where they should be, especially with Windows on a handheld.. What the hell is Microsoft doing? They had a whole tablet division and still can't figure this out lol 😂
Windows 12 better not take a quarter of the RAM that Windows 11 does. Needing more than 16gb of ram is just SOO CRAZY
I upgraded to a steam deck OLED and couldn't be happier.
@@_BBAGG_ what makes it an upgrade over either? Both are more powerful and with bazzite can enjoy steam os ....the deck does have the better display though
Me too. We enjoy game with our eyes. Thus display is the most of importance. Returned my ally x due to QC PROBLEMS 3 times
@@gcforreal For me personally, The OLED display, much better battery life and better form factor are what make me enjoy using it over my Ally.
I have a PC if I want my games to look good, the steam deck Oled has everything I need from a portable device
@@wiselyomar2695 Qc problems?
@@wiselyomar2695 what kinda QC problems did u have?
Our local electric store in Germany has made a 20% off of everything they sell. got an Rog Ally X for 720€ after tax. thats like 750$. the normal price for the ally X over here is like 890$ after tax.
Which is a better buy . ALLY at $449 or the X at $699 ? I want to buy one of them
Hmmm...if money isn't an issue, go with the X. It's overall a better handheld, IMO.
I personally believe it would be more logical to purchase the Ally Z1 Extreme for $449 and use the money you saved for the Zotac Zone, which is rumored to have an upgradable RAM system. Money isn't a problem for me, but I can't justify a $300 price increase for a 10% performance gain. As for the larger battery, you can compromise with a 40W power bank to get you on par with the X. If you spend another $130 you can pick up a 2 TB SSD and you'll have 5-10% less performance than the X...
Debating as both are on sale at best buy. Almsot got the Ally Z1 Extreme a fee weeks ago when they did a gaming sale but. I wasnt sure if the price increase to rhe ally X was worth it or not.
Just got my x 2 hours ago still setting it up
How do you like it?
@ScrfinGaming runs perfect im loving it
Is this worth getting if I own a steam deck? I was considering getting it for fps and 3rd person shooter games. And maybe try and use it for photo editing if that’s possible which I’m sure it is since it’s a windows handheld.
I’ve been wanting to try to Rog Ally X but I still don’t trust Asus as a company so I ended up pre-ordering the special edition SD.
I'm more than happy with my OG Ally Z1 Extreme. I picked it up used but mint in box for £250, when similar used mint in box Ally X is £600. No way is the improvements worth the price difference if you have a good power bank. When the Ally 2 comes out I will look at it again and see if the new generation is worth the extra money. Either that or the prices of the Ally X will come down and I'll make the upgrade as the price difference won't be as big.
Can you use external GPUs with the ally X? Or is the only option the Ally Z1X with their proprietary mobile GPU? And is the ally Z1X with the external GPU better performance wise than the ally X?
You can use an eGPU that supports USB-4.
Had ally x it's better but still uncomfortable and just went back to my OLED deck sure less power but the tdp and steam os is so much better
@@zomg346 cope
@kysierkevin 😂😂 go get some nice Asus support 😂😂
I agree with you the grip isn’t that much better over the original ally. The oled deck and msi claw have the best ergonomics to date. I returned my x for other reasons and resorted back to my z1x with ally x battery mod.
If you go back to a windows handheld try out bazzite. It’s essentially steam os for the windows handhelds and it’s amazing to use. That’s how my ally is set up and it feels just like my previous deck oled.
I got my Rog Ally Extreme for 450 at Best Buy
Nice!
I'm good with my og Rog Ally because it get the job done plus I have a PS5 and Xbox Series S.
I have only had the rog ally for 5 days I was using the legion go and probably will continue using my legion go because of the bigger screen
300$ more for an Ally X... that's a whole Steam Deck!
These aren't really design or implemented well enough with the GPU in mind hopefully they figure this out in time
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The X is quite a bit more expensive
In conclusion get a Steam Deck
@@Eskoxo nah