Life Aboard a U.S. Navy Destroyer | Documentary Short | 1970
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This film (originally titled as ‘Destroyermen’) is a 1970 short documentary produced by the U.S. Navy. It gives us a look inside day to day life aboard a U.S. navy destroyer at sea. The Destroyers shown in the film include the USS Bordelon (DD-881), the USS Strong (DD-758), the USS Brownson (DD-868), and the USS Gearing (DD-710).
HISTORICAL BACKGROUND / CONTEXT
In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast, maneuverable long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet, convoy or battle group and defend them against smaller powerful short-range attackers. They were originally developed in the late 19th century as a defense against torpedo boats, and by the time of the Russo-Japanese War in 1904, these "torpedo boat destroyers" (TBDs) were "large, swift, and powerfully armed torpedo boats designed to destroy other torpedo boats." Although the term "destroyer" had been used interchangeably with "TBD" and "torpedo boat destroyer" by navies since 1892, the term "torpedo boat destroyer" had been generally shortened to simply "destroyer" by nearly all navies by the First World War.
Before World War 2, destroyers were light vessels with little endurance for unattended ocean operations; typically a number of destroyers and a single destroyer tender operated together. After the war, the advent of the guided missile allowed destroyers to take on the surface combatant roles previously filled by battleships and cruisers. This resulted in larger and more powerful guided missile destroyers more capable of independent operation.
At the start of the 21st century, destroyers are the global standard for surface combatant ships, with only three nations (United States, Russia, and Peru) operating the heavier class cruisers, with no battleships or true battlecruisers remaining. Modern destroyers, also known as guided missile destroyers, are equivalent in tonnage but vastly superior in firepower to cruisers of the World War 2 era, and are capable of carrying nuclear tipped cruise missiles. At 510 feet (160 m) long, a displacement of 9200 tons, and with armament of more than 90 missiles, guided missile destroyers such as the Arleigh Burke class are actually larger and more heavily armed than most previous ships classified as guided missile cruisers.
Life Aboard a U.S. Navy Destroyer | Documentary Short | 1970
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I was on a destroyer abt 25 years later. Not much changed except newer racks (beds) and weapons different. Keep in mind this video glorifies life on a destroyer a lot. They're missing: mess cranking (3 months of working in the kitchen 18 hours per day) , sweeping the ship, chipping paint, standing long boring endless watches at all hours of the day and night, seasickness, constant smells of jet fuel (used for the gas turbine engines) and basically always fighting a battle to get more sleep. This video does show the best aspects but those are about 5% of reality.
This film gave me a good idea of what life was like for my dad. 20 yrs enlisted on a tin can as a Gunners Mate. He went in in the 50s and retired in 72. I remember the homecomings from the 70s on the pier at Mayport. All the men in their dress uniforms standing on deck, waiting to be reunited with their families. I still have the post cards he sent to me from various ports.
Refueling was a tough job an dangerous but today after all of there years I don't ever regret my time in the navy
notice that the men inside the gun turrets had no ear coverings. Vietnam 1971-72. Serious tinnitus.
What?
Yep!
Navy took my hearing too. Day I got out had to sign a paper that said I was as good that day as the day I went in….I had no problems signing as quickly as I could 😉
USS MANSFIELD (DD728). Loved the comment that the Navy constantly practiced. As a Vietnam vet we didn't practice, we did! We fired over 50,000 rounds in 3 years and not for practice either.
My dad said that too. He was on dd886
USS DEHAVEN DD 727 we did to 69 to 72
Wow, Mansfield, DeHaven, 2 ships I remember from LBeach. I was on the Somers DDG 34, mole pier. Now the base is a container pier!! Fair winds and following seas.
Well done Sir!
Doctors and Lawyers "practice". In the Navy we trained. A saying is, "Train like you fight, fight like you train!"
Served on the USS Hazelwood DD 531 went to Cuba , the lessons learned from my service have served me well in life
Oh
Yep, forty years later I still do things "the Navy Way"! 😎
Being a landlubber Army veteran, I always thought destroyers were the small ones until my Navy veteran friend at work told me that he served on a frigate which was even smaller. The smaller ships allow a certain familiarity between the crew that larger ships don't have. He talked about painting the walls on his frigate once-to cover the footprints because the ship rolled that much during a storm.
Hasta hundir su proa hasta la primera cubierta
Served eight of eleven years on destroyers; Higbee, Radford and Philip as a Boilerman.
A Frigate is somewhat larger, just under the cruiser class of ship..
Served on instructor duty at Fleet Training Center, San Diego for three years then called it quits as another eight years of sea duty would have followed.
T. Herman BT1
Vietnam Veteran and Covid 19 survivor
Dad served on the USS Shaw DD-373 at Pearl 12/7/1941. See famous pic of forward mags exploding after two bombs penetrated bow. He was down in number one boiler room when she blew, then had to jump and swim in burning water. Served 20 years got out and we moved to Ca from Charleston SC...He passed on 2007. We heard many stories of WWII and Korea as well as pre-war navy life.
Thanks for sharing. Love it. I once was watching a video about welding on some hotrod and this commenter told when he bought a welder and was trying to learn to weld out in the garage.
He said his mom came out of the kitchen and asked "why are the lights flickering?" He explained I gotta learn to weld. She went back in and came out a short time later with her own apron, gloves and helmet and taught him to weld.
He asked where did you learn this? She replied I was a welder on battleships during the war. She never said anything before then.
@@henrycomputer1403 Cool! My mother’s good friend was a worker on the bomber line during WWII, aka “Rosie the riveter”...
your father was a real hero. Proud of sailors!
@@henrycomputer1403 thanks for another great story of the generation that had to reach down deep and deliver for the nation. They didn’t cry and moan, or build a safe space. My mother’s friend Theda worked in Southern CA on one of the many aircraft lines assembling bomber planes. Her husband Johnny was at Pearl with my dad and was burned 80% of his body and looked like “The Mummy” when my dad got to see him in hospital. Johnny later moved out to So. Cal and became a manager at Fedco department stores in Anaheim. Carry on folks! “Never give up-never!” Winston Churchill
There are still a few people who have the character and values of the greatest generation. However, most people are too self absorbed to ever be able to find inner strength, and work with others to achieve a common good!
I served on the DD-709 USS Hugh Purvis in 69-71 .... Our sister ship DD-710 USS Gearing was in this video ... Memorable years in my life ...
I was on a destroyer myself (USS ROWAN-DD-782)73-75,in Yokosuka, Japan,came back stateside in Jan,76,ship got decommissioned,my EAOS was up in SEP,the ship i was assigned to USS DUBUQUE-LPD-8,was fixing to go back where I just came from(West PAC)got out 4days before they left 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Served on the USS King DDG-41 '76-'80. The best friends of my life were made there.
Dad served on DD-869 (Arnold J Isbell) during Korea in 1952 I believe and was part of a task force.
He was Fire Control and thought highly of his 'tin can' and the Gearing Class Destroyers.
My husband his a Navy Corpsman served DD-257N
He just passed away last 12-21-2023 Thank you very much for your service I’m very proud of you. I love you and I missed you so much.🫡🇺🇸⚓️🛳️❤️🤍💙
Thank you for this video…
I served on an APA which was much larger, we supplied and supported DDs from time to time at sea and I was just amazed at how much rougher the seas treated them. We hardly noticed the waves while their decks were awash. Much respect to their sailors.
My dad was in a typhoon in the south pacific and the ammeter needle was pegged, when the tin can went down in the trough he said the sky disappeared!
Our young Captain took my frigate into a hurricane chasing an "Ivan" (soviet submarine). Nearly sank us. We were literally on our side at one point! Only time I thought we were going to die.
I served aboard the USS John S, McCain from Jan 64 thru Jun 66. Best time of my life, I learned more about life and myself during that time than any period of my life. I wouldnt trade that experience for anything. It was like a family, we were all in it together
No you didn't, it was launched 1994.
@@rickbarnes7745 There was DL3
DDG 36, JOHN S. MCCAIN, I was on it 73 to 75. Stationed in Subic ,P.I.
My apologies. I thought there was only one ship that was named after the Vietnam war pilot who recently died, so I did a quick search and found the second USS John S McCain which was only launched in 1994. I never saw the article about the first ship that was commissioned in 1963 which was named after his father or grandfather.
I also wouldn't trade my years in the Navy at sea for anything. I learned a bit of what my dad experienced aboard ship in WWII during my time. So grateful and so privileged to serve.
In the early 60`s I served on destroyers out of Maport, Fla as a radarmen RD2 in CIC (combat information center) . It was interesting duty. I'm 81 now and still proud of being a tin can sailor.
My dad served on the Isabel DD869 around 55. He worked in the engine room.
As a battleship sailor I can only smile watching these cute toys.
They sure seem tiny, don’t they! But damn if a squadron of DD’s and DE’s didn’t attack (and drive off) a whole parcel of Japanese BB’s and CA’s off Samar in ‘44. 👍🏻🇺🇸
Taffy 3 and the USS Samuel B Roberts; the DE that fought like a BB !
@@skipgumphrey9579The Tin Can Navy Second to none!
Brings back so many memories USS John King 69 to 72 two med cruises one north Atlantic 45 foot swells coming back from North Atlantic November 72
My Dad served on U.S. Navy destroyers in the Pacific during WW2 and then Korea.
When I joined the Navy at 18 I had it in my mind to go the same path, but as luck would have it I became rated as a Jet Engine Mechanic/ Airman, and served aircrew on P-3's, then sea service on the USS Ranger (CV-61). Probably for the best, as those Tin Cans would have made me seasick.
I was stationed on the DD 710 USS GEARING back in 1971 / 1973, as a MM the first ship on rhis video. This brought back some memories.
That's me singing, before the destroyer I was the radar lookout guy at pearl harbor
Anyway, Thanks to all those that served a period of there life for the cause of fredom.
You guys sounded good
Tin Can Sailor here, USS Deyo DD 989, 1996 - 2001, Fire Controlman on CIWS, Brave and Proud
My husband was aboard the Deyo at this time. He was an MS.
l like the uniforms. back then.
Yes the new "dungo" look like hammered shit
I liked the dress blue uniform, but the white uniforms were a pain.
The new uniforms look like crap! Just can't beat the old Cracker Jack Uniform!
On the WW2 Fletchers, there was not one spot for an enlisted man to sit his butt down on a soft surface. We even sat on depth charge brackets as a seat, With a wartime crew of 320, there was no room for comfort for them. In peacetime, about 120 men can man a Fletcher, leaving room for rec rooms,etc.
why more men are needed during war?
Alex M
Few were needed to maintain these weapons. Many more were needed to properly use them in wartime.
@@GoldenShellback plus men were killed or lost at sea. Some couldn’t take life on the sea and were put ashore. My dad had to stand his brothers watch because he was heaving his guts up so him laid him under a gun turret until he felt better. He hadn’t got his “sea legs” yet!
Dad served 20 years and uncle served 25…
George Kilroy -
I had more trouble adjusting to being ashore following a stint at sea. Always took some time to get my "shore legs" back.
I was in for 21 years.
I served on the 868 uss brownson at the end of 50s out of road island
Served as a Bosun on multiple Tin Cans in the 80s and 90s.
I must be a glutton for punishment, after my career in the Navy, I’m now a Mate on a towboat shoving barges on the Mississippi underway 8 months per year the last 15 years…
My Daddy told me about life on the old “4 Stackers" from WW1. He was so happy when he was attached to DD-435, an Gleaves class DD. Said it was a honey-moon vessel. As a ‘Plank Owner’ out of Charleston Navy yard
320 cruise widows left in Mayport. Ripe for the picking.
In the early 1980s, I served just over three years aboard a Navy frigate, redesignated in 1975 from destroyer-escort. Fun times in rough seas! There were good times and bad. My Knox Class frigate was a bit larger than the WWII destroyers.
uss elmer montgomery de-1082, kater classified as uss emler montgomeryy ff-1082 2 and a half years deck seaman
served on USS Marvin Shields DE/FF 1066 as a machinist’s mate from 73-76 and made 2 westpacs .pitched and rolled like drunk hippo, but didnt want anything else. From 76-78 served on USS Turner Joy DD951 older and smaller.
I was in the Marine Corps in 1970 all I have to say to the Navy is…thanks for the ride…
You ought to thank for the gunfire support you got fm Destroyers unless you were a pencil pusher and never saw Combat
I spent over two years on the USS Arcadia AD 23 in Charleston South Carolina and a little over on the USS Isherwood DD 520 , sea duty on a tin can had it's ups and downs but for an 18 year old it was a great experience .🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
USS Lyman K Swenson DD 729 1961 to 1963 WestPac cruise.
DD729 '65/ '66 I was high-lined aboard her in the Gulf of Tonkin. Straight out of boot camp, The next day we were on the firing line. Unforgettable memories.
Gotta comment ;
You were a member of DESRON 3 , along with us (Higbee, James E Kyes, Rupertus etc.) to HomePort in Yokosuka ..2 & a half years .
Put in 11 years and called it quits . Would have been another eight years sea duty at the time (1970).
T. Herman BT1
I served on a destroyer tender in the mid ‘60s. It was good duty and I loved being at sea.
All four of my fathers brothers were in the navy during the Korean War - Vietnam war. Three were on destroyers and one who was on a PBR. My dad was the only Marine. In Korea.
White lightning instantly recognized it
My grandfather was on a destroyer in WWI in the North Atlantic. My uncle on a destroyer in the Korean War. He earned his CAR when shelled off the coast of Korea.
Ahora los jóvenes acá solo escuchan música fuerte y fuman marihuana sin generalizar
Been there done that... longest at sea was 28 straight days without seeing land then we visited a town in Western Australia 1977...everytime i hear that bosun’s whistle, something is up..in order to keep up with the task force, we refuel every 3rd day re supply once a week..
63 days at sea of Vietnam then 4 days Hong Kong then 45 more days of Vietnam. 10 months never less than 30 days at sea!
I served on Destroyers during Vietnam Conflict. Four Destroyers and one Destroyer Escort. I am 💯 Disabled Prostate Cancer, Agent Orange, Hearing loss from Gunfire support missions. However I am Proud to have been a "Tin-Can Rider"... Would do it again. SM2 L.Garcia USN..
I served aboard two destroyers in the 1970's - the Parsons DDG-33 out of Japan and the Fanning 1076 out of San Diego
thanks for your service shipmate. served aboard fanning 71-73 westpac
I was aboard USS Parsons DD-33 as MM #2 engineroom.. 1977-79 off Yokosaka Japan..
great work
Thx furr posting..
Served aboard the USS Brownson DD868 in the mid to late 60's. Best time of my navy years
Served on USS Davis (DD 937) 1976-1979 on cruises to South America, Med, both sides of Africa and Indian Ocean. This brought back some good memories!
@davidjames, what division, I was Repair-A Gang
@@RDBean I was a PN and worked in the Personnel Office. We worked in the Navigation Division.
@davidjames, got out after 79-80 cruise, back in 85, retired 96. Moved to Panama in 2015, have small farm here, lemons & coffee
I served as a BT on 2 destroyers ,the USS HERBERT J THOMAS, DD-833, and the USS FLOYD B PARKS, DD-884.
Being a Boiler Tech would be very hot down there. The USS Floyd B didn't have stairs to the boilers, only a ladder. But was a fine destroyer.
@@ctlancearrowlarson8237 actually there were 2 ladders, one to the inside passage away and to the outside deck
Thanks for the reply. I didn't get down to Fire or Engine Room much, unless I had to go aloft. @@bobellis2026
Amusing how similar to my life deployed aboard frigates as a helicopter crewman in the mid 1980s through mid 1990s -
I had a patient once that was an Engineer on the USS Niblack in Neutrality Patrol Convoy duty in the North Atlantic, they were behind the USS Rueben James when she was torpedoed Oct 31, 1941, the Niblack stopped to pick up survivors. He'd also served on the Flushdeck 4 Pipers having enlisted in 1938. Herad so good Sea Stories from him!
At 1:15, that very poignant shot of the young Navy wife with her 3 year old having to watch her husband ship out. Brings a lump in the throat. Many of us remember... and remember the same when our dads left for war in WW II or Korea.
Strange seeing so many familiar cans. Some even served with my dad's ship in WW II, and I was privileged to steam with them 20-odd years later during the Vietnam war.
I remember my division officer trying to talk me into going to OCS on more than one occasion, rather than to return to civilian life. But I had a family to take care of.
I was onboard DDG22 1969-1970 BT forward fire room it was hot as hell,but I did my job,I don’t think I could handle the Navy now,good luck to all in the Navy now.😢😢😢😢😢😢😊
Did 8 years in t5he U. S. Navy, 6 of those years I was haze grey and underway. Been all over the Pacific from Hawaii to Diego Garcia. I couldn't wait to get out and I'm' glad I did. Still I miss it sometimes.
USS McKean DD-784, and then USS Bordelon DD-881, aboard her when she collided with the Kennedy, and until she was decommissioned. Being a machinist’s mate was a lot of things, but fun wasn’t one of them. I feel some nostalgia for that time, but damn, it was hard.
I was on the MC Kean from 1974 to 1978 we at pier 91 in Seattle after they closed the Long Beach base
Was on the Mckean Aug 1973 til April 1975 WD Division BM3 Neal
You left out a favorite port of call is Hotel Street in Honolulu, HI. 😂
My dad was a Tin Can Sailor during WW II in the Pacific. He served on the USS Heermann and was with Taffy 3 at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
He told me about the trough with toilet seats they had to use. He said sea water would flow from one end and out the other. He said you always had to keep an eye on the guy upstream. He may light a piece of newspaper and float it downstream! Those were the stories my dad would tell, not the horrors he went through.
0:53 The marching band can't join them on the cool battle ship :(
' _what did you do during the war Billy?_ '
*I played the tuba :(*
I love seamen and navy life
I was given a guided tour of a Destroyer in Hong Kong in the 1980's. I was amazed how cramped the living quarters and mess were. You sure had to get along with your mates.
Served on Willis A Lee (DL-4) Should have built with 4 5” 54’s. What a pretty sight she would have been.
Thank you for your service. I served aboard Strauss DDG-16 and John S. McCain DDG-36 during the Vietnam War and Benjamin Stoddert DDG-22 after the Vietnam War. We only had two single barrel gun mounts with 5" 54's. But we had AZROC and guided missiles and state of sonar and torpedoes. Strauss and Stoddert were Adams Class DDG's. McCain was DL-3 and was converted to a DDG with guided missiles and AZROC.
Destroyer sailor on two "cans"....
RM1(SW)
My brother was on the Arnold J. Isabell (869). We got to go to sea, from Long Beach, Ca. to Catalina on a family day. He went to Viet Nam on that ship.
Served as a GM aboard several destroyers. The items that were true then and in the 80's to the 90's is unrep and we are a family.
On board USS Luce (DLG-7) (then) out of Mayport in 1965 for a short run to Charleston as engineering casualty observer on loan from USS F D Roosevelt (CVA-42). Luce skipper tried hard to get me to ship over to become a Tin Can sailor. Good memories
Dad served on the Fred T Berry DD858 from 1955-1959.
I spent 2-weeks on the USS Moale DD693 as a reserve gig in 1970 (never got underway). I ended up going to the fleet 71-73 on an LPD. Would have much preferred to be a tin can sailor. Truly regret that didn’t happen.
I really wanted to be on a tin can but was stuck on an LPH for three years. Destroyers used to pull up to pier 6 in San Diego and dock themselves like a yacht! I must have gone down to EPDOPAC 10 times looking for a transfer. "No openings" every time! That was back in '68-'71.
What LPH...me 11
@@timhalpin7962 Me? LPH-10 USS Tripoli
Saw DD-758 in clip USS Strong served alongside her in 67-68 aboard USS James C. Owens DD-776 & in Nam.
Just watched a video on life aboard a Nimitz class carrier, just about the opposite to life on a destroyer.
I served four years, It's a rough life!
All I wanted to do,when I was a kid, was to join the Navy. My Grandma was a Chief Petty Officer. I was into naval history, so I wanted to be posted to either a FRAM I Gearing, a GUPPY III sub or an Iowa Class Battleship. Unfortunately, by the time I enlisted in 2001, none of that was still in service. I guess you could call it a sea of disappointment. 😂
I served aboard the USS Taussig DD-746 69-70. Did a tour of Nam supporting Marines. On our return home we got hit by Typhoon Ida.
5" 38's rock. Gunfire support on call I Corps 69-70.
My dad served in Korea DD-727 USS DeHaven and DD-517 USS Walker.
Goodbye's are never easy
Ha ha ha, raise your hand if Naples is your favorite liberty port!
Humpty Dumpty & the campfire girls.
My favorite was Palma Majorca, Spain. Barcelona, Spain. Been to Naples a dozen or more times and it never was my favorite! DL NEAL USN 1969 - 1977
The gearing class destroyers were retired from us service in the mid-70s, but some saw life in other navies long into the mid 2000s. May be a ww2 era design, but damn what a robust one to be able to sail for fifty, maybe sixty years.
USS Robert H. McCard DD822 June '65-August '67. She was a good ship.
@@oldsalt7534 that ship sailed until ‘98 with the Turkish navy. Again, a very robust design.
Several were sent to the Philippines
I was on the USS Robert H. McCard DD822 from June 1965 to August 1967. The USS Bordelon DD881 and USS Strong DD758 were in Destroyer Squadron 4 with us in Charleston, SC. If this film was made in 1970 I'm wondering if it was actually filmed in Charleston. Does anyone know?
That was the USS gearing DD710 served on her from 65 until 68 Dash tech good times
I truly miss the feeling of family with my shipmates.
❤ very amazing film of Gearings class ship.i served Pns Alamgir ex uss cone in 1995.Pakistan
Navy bands were on all the cruisers battleships and Aircraft Carriers till the 70’s I believe
My favotate ship was DSG8 USS Kynde McCormik
5:43 USS Chikaskia (AO-54)
6:43 An alternative (and more realistic) answer in 1970 could have been:
"'Well its still better than being a Grunt in Vietnam".
Yes, it was better than being a "Grunt" in Vietnam. I joined the Navy in 1971. Served in Vietnam (1972), in northeastern Thailand (1973), and in Korea (1978 to 1982). My last four years in the Navy were aboard a Destroyer (1988 to 1992).
Where did you serve?
Phu Bai is all right.
I was aft in haul for Un-rep on the USS Jonas Ingram DD-938
DDG-54 "Steel Hammer of the Fleet" USS Curtis Wilbur. Main Propulsion Assistant, 2011 to 2013, Yokosuka Japan.
USS EDSON (DD-946) the only navy ship on the twilight zone.
Bruh 2019 they need to do something about the way we do Unrep.
BMs will be the same no matter what time frame.
Machinist mate USS Perry DD 844 Vietnam 72. 73.
God Bless them all.
Ah, when men were men. It was a Navy a man could be proud of. There was a lot of Navy men in my family. I would like to have been one of them, oh well.
I like to kid and tell people I was in the Navy when ships were made of wood and the men were made of iron 😂
Mi padre formo parte d una d estas despedidas cuando zarparon destino eeuu san Diego california a por dos destructores cedidos denominados almirante ferrandiz y lepanto para la armada d españa en 1957 un recuerdo q jamas olvido hasta su muerte . Francisco llano Palma oriundo d coria del río Sevilla jamas t olvidaremos .
My Grandfather served on board the USS Swearer during WWII.
My father served on the USS Swearer during WW2 Fire Control man 3 class
Eu servi em porta aviões, aqui no Brasil, A 10 NAeL Minas Gerais, estou na reserva a 2 anos e não tenho saudades, a vida em navios é só para quem é apaixonado pelo mar...
Steel Beach picnic.
Spent a year on DE/FF 1081 Aylwin. Great year. Learned to be a man EM2
I was on the Pharris FF-1094. 1980-1982. Made a UNITAS cruise and deployed to the Persian Gulf. MM3
SPG53 & SPS40
Destroyers did not have the "luxury" of a barber. Certainly not a barber's chair. At least not the two I served on. LOL
I served aboard three DDG's in the 70's. We had a small barbershop on each.
@@davidsoule1252 I was aboard back in 1956. None of our Fletcher-class destroyers had any barbers."shops".
Aqui no Brasil esses tipos mais antigos foram o Mariz e Barros e o Marcilio Dias.
All they Navy guys in here - good stuff 😄
2 week active,got hit by hurricane ,100 miles from Bermuda. It wasn't there. t. V., Not a book, real deal.20 inches of water 2nd deck. Textbook teamwork. Scary realism.semper paratus.
In 1974 my dream sheet = destroyer. Assignment = Carrier. Conclusion? Take what you get and shut up. :)
1:00 I love that lady's hair do.