Jesus is presenting the merits of His sacrifice to the Father on behalf of all who believe on Him for the forgiveness of sin. Jesus is working out my salvation.
@2:14:27 - I like the analogy. @2:10:55, - Man there is a lot of suffering on the earth, it is a lot. Where is God as sin is continuing to spread evil? Didnt Christ take all the sins upon himself and atone for them?
Sean you are right Hebrews said Jesus went in once for all . The Investigative Judgement doesn't give assurance but I am glad and encouraged the ministers do believe in assurance
Your missing the outcome of this investigative judgement. Daniel's assurances is found in the outcome of the investigative judgement. Please read Daniel 7:21,22; 27
Yeah I was glad to hear the assurance seems to be clear to them. The once and for all message to me can't have a secondary sacrifice and offering for this later Day of Atonement. That would mean God needs to return the accepted sacrifice to do it all over again. I did freestyle the discussion because I had that one question but I am open to a fuller discussion where I'm prepared. The issue at hand is that God has to follow the calendar of feasts for them. I get it but I don't agree. The God of order should have sentenced us to death, just as the law on its own does. But grace and mercy through His Spirit doth abound.
For the scapegoat, the sin is transfer to him. But for Jesus, the lamb of God. He takes away or sins. Taking away is different from being transferred. I hope that helps out
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Could you guys show in the NT the food laws still being required? I've had this question for a while. I research it but it's also good to ask questions right 🙏🏿
@@FishermensCorner I was thinking of Acts 15, but it really just mentions strangled foods and foods with blood. These are parts of the Food laws, but I would wish if there was things more direct in the NT, and if there is that's great. I know Isaiah 66 is mentioned. I need to read the context of that chapter to determine if it's talking about the end, but that's one passage I can think of.
@@sttuffwithjoe4477 it's not direct and intentional. We don't have to eat kosher, but it's to our benefit if we do. Eating things profaned by idols in a modern context is branded, corporate glop. Our idols are brands, marketing, product loyalty, etc
@@FishermensCorner The dietary restrictions given to Israel were part of the Mosaic covenant, a tutor meant to set that nation apart until Christ ushered in the new covenant (Galatians 3:24-25). When the perfect Lamb arrived, the temporary sacrificial system was fulfilled and abolished, including the food laws (Mark 7:19). For you to claim Acts 15 somehow implies a continuation of kosher is simply absurd eisegesis reading your desired meaning into the text rather than deriving it through proper hermeneutics. Acts 15 declares Gentile believers are not bound to Mosaic law, only abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, blood, strangled meat, and sexual immorality. Not a syllable about kosher!
@e.t.h.559 that is absolutely incorrect. I'm not going to ruin my sermon that I'm going to give it a couple of weeks, but to be very clear, Leviticus 17 and 18 have a specific provision for the "Foreigner..." and are the legal justification of Acts 15. let's be very clear as well, if we love God with all our hearts then that's why we are called to love the image of god, our neighbor. How can we do good work for 6 days if we are in an unhealthy state, how can we turn to God and give him everything we have if we are in a unhealthy state. It is a natural outcome of following the first commandment alone, have no other Idols before him. It is absolutely proper exegesis, and I'm excited to share it with you soon.
Regarding Isaiah 56.. We must remember that the only way a stranger could keep the certain feast days was by circumcision.. If they participated in this ritual, they could keep Passover and offer sacrifices.. This is old covenant language. Let’s read ”even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: 👉their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; 👈for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.“ Isaiah 56:7
Your correct they we’re object lesson to a people that had just come out of slavery. It was the simplest way for God to educate them on the plan of salvation.
Lev 19:34 for Christians we are all called out of spiritual Egypt. There is a spiritual application of the text. That spiritual lesson also applies to the Ten Commandments. All ten of them.
Well, the Bible does not quite agree with that. Psalm 111 : 7,8,10 the commandments God wrote down with His own hands are for ever. Yes there was. In the Old Testament 4 different sets of laws. A) moral laws ( Ten Commandments) B) civil laws how to deal with rebellion C) ceremonial laws D) health laws ( to keep them free from sickness as they cross the desert. (And sanitation) Most Christian’s bunch them up all in one which is wrong. Even God didn’t do that.
@fournierro1 those categories, although helpful, are not biblically defined. They are defined implicitly with the exception of the moral law. We know what the moral law is because God wrote it and God required it for atonement in the Ark of the Covenant under the mercy seat. It was explicitly, set apart.
As you read the feast days you will notice that their purpose was to educate them of the plan of salvation. The Lamb That was To Come And Pay The Price for man’s sin. Once the lamb had come the Jewish nation responded well and got to learn that Jesus was that lamb. Yes most refused , but the apostles and their converts did understand.
Many gentiles came out of Egypt with the Jews. Note that the Sabbath was made mention of at every great display of power by God : Creation, Deliverance (Deut5:15 ) and Sanctification (Eze 20 :12 ) This is shown both in the OT and NT.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd before Jesus died on the cross. Yes before there was even going to be another Sabbath, He said; “ pray that your flight be not in the winter or on the Sabbath day. Then He died before there was even another Sabbath day to be. And there was not going to be another winter for nine months. Which is when you think it is when it was no longer to exist.
@@fournierro1 The Sabbath cannot be observed on a round Earth. The long days and nights at the north and south poles make this impossible without sunrise and sunset. No fires could be kindled on the Sabbath at the poles. Also, the International Date Line and Time Zones are inventions of man for man's convenience. God did not leave instructions for Sabbath observance when crossing them. Astronauts could travel at the same speed as the rotation of the earth and never experience a sunset or sunrise to change days.
@@fournierro1 Are you comfortable committed to the Seventh-day Adventist which is twice cursed for its false gospel (Gal. 1:6-9), cursed for its reliance on the law (Gal. 3:10 ), teachings of anti-Christ because it denies the one final atonement of Christ (1 Jn. 2:22), a church with a founder which God declared abominable (Deut. 18:11 -12) for witchcraft, necromancy and mediumship and a church that teaches doctrines of demons (1 Tim 4:1-4) forbidding marriage and abstinence from foods?
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd I find it funny when people try and find ways to justify Sin. Psalm 111: 7, 8, 10. Personally I always prefer Jesus councils. Matthew 24: 20. When he was answering Peter’s question in verse #3 About the LAST days . Here is the difference between those who believe and those who wish to get rid of Bible truth. Hebrews 4 : 3 - 11. Don’t forget it is talking about THE SEVENTH DAY on this wise. No wonder Satan is so fixed on attacking those who still take to heart The only Commandments God wrote down using His own hands. Revelation 12 : 17. But I’ll be patient with those who do not take God’s word seriously. Revelation 14 : 12.
ISAIAH 56 prophesied that that both Jews and Gentitles will keep the Sabbath in the earth made new. Rvelation 22: 14-16 says only those who keep the commandment of God, not man's commandment, will go to heaven... Isaiah 66:23-23 says ALL flesh shall worship God from one SABBATH to another. Psalm 138:2 says God magnified His Word above His Name. Amos 3:7 God does NOTHING without revealing His plan to His servants the prophets. Matthew 28:20: He also says that we are to follow ONLY what He has commanded Psalm 111:7-10 also say that all His commandments stand fast forever and ever. I am learning and willing to obey the word of God if some one can show me from the Bible that God commanded a change of the 7th day Sabbath to the first day of the week, Sunday. Thank you. God bless. ..
The year was 537 AD when the Roman church changed the Ten Commandments to their suppose advantage. There are three of them that they changed. Look up the Ten Commandments in the Catholic church. Then compare they to the ones in the Bible and you will see the changes that was made. Exodus 20.
You use Isaiah 66 to support sabbath keeping in the new earth because it says ‘from one sabbath to another’ but what about the new moon part of that text - SDA’s always miss that part out -do you observe new moons ? (Also Will the day/night pattern be followed if there’s no need for sun & moon because God Himself will be the light in the new earth? )Or is there possibly a different meaning to Isaiah 66? ie could it refer to ‘all the time’ 🤷🏼♀️
Advent Defense : You would note that blood was placed both on the veil and the horns of the altar of incense, accumulating all year (359 days). On the 360 th day, the day of Atonement , the high priest stop at the altar of incense walking in touching the horns , figuratively picking up those sins for the whole year , and than going into the Most Holy Place and presenting them to God . On His way out of the Sanctuary , the high priest stops at the altar of incense again, picking up those sins that had accumulated while he was inside the Most Holy Place. This covers those who came late on the day of atonement / 1844- YOU and ME. The service is complete when all sins are confessed over the head of the scapegoat, and it is led into the wilderness by a strong man/ Christ.
When it comes 2 d feast days, we may wonder and realize, if we should still keep them, then what was "nailed 2 d cross," if those were not abolished!So let's pray 4 understanding w wisdom, knowledge, n discretion, as King Solomon says. What was nailed 2 d cross? Let's pray about it.❤
A better rendering of that passage is- having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Those feast days and ceremonies were a shadows pointing to the Lamb of God (Jesus) to come. The weekly Sabbath is different from the yearly sabbaths that came once a year with its feasts and feastivals.......
In the conversation with Sean, the point of the feasts being in order was a good point. I really wished you guys sat on that point more the whole time because every time you brought up other themes he would filp to I see it this other way. So I would say for next time that you should stick to just that point. Bringing up facts like the day of Pentecost which was fulfilled in order. Asking for scripture to demonstrate how the order is no longer being applied. Just sit on that point and if they can't answer then agree to part ways as Cotto said at one point in the video. In that way they will leave knowing that they couldn't answer that question and maybe rethink. Cause if you notice that's where he was quiet the most in terms of the order point. I thought that the point was lost on questions like his intercession and what he's doing as high priest. You guys should have just stayed on the issue of time, because God is a God of order from creation in seven days and everything on timing in prophecy etc etc etc....
Peace, This channel is really good, and greatly needed, because there are people saying some weird things about the 7th Day Adventist Church. It’s good to see what we really teach defended. Keep up the awesome work.❤ With that being said, I do disagree in regards to the feast days of GOD. I believe the annual Holy Convocations of GOD should still be observed. That they weren’t done away with or abolished at the death of Jesus. I believe Holy Convocations aren’t ceremonial. There were ceremonies done on these set days of GOD (just like the 7th day Sabbath), but the actual days set aside by GOD is not ceremonial. Coming to this conclusion was done by SDA reasoning points, Jesus, the apostles, the early Christian gentiles (after 70AD) custom was to observed the annual Holy days of GOD. It’ll be observed in the future with the Feast of Tabernacles (Zech.14) I’ve studied the points you guys brought up , one of them was, the 10 Commandments were inside the Ark, and the commandments to observe the annual Holy days of GOD were on the side of the Ark. For me, many laws written in the book by Moses are moral laws, and not ceremonial. The health laws for example. I think we should be careful of not throwing the baby (moral laws) out with the bath water (ceremonial laws). Holy Convocations are moral.. again the proof that they were still being observed by the apostles and the early Christian church shows that. Blessings! ❤
The torn veil just represented that that the earthly services were completed: The Cross/ atonement. The Holy Place/ atonement and the Most Holy Place/ atonement
In Colossians chapter 2, the reason why it was contrary to them was because it was unnatural for them to have to kill an animal. The reason it was a witness against them, was because they had to stand before the whole nation of Israel and show that they were sinful as they killed an animal.
The NT continually refers back to the OT. To properly understand the NT it is important to look back at what is being referenced through symbolism and type.
Because they say the devil is doing their atonement, in the investigative judgment ..that's what creates everything different about SDA .and is blaspheming the holy spirit .if you actually understand what they're saying. they don't really understand that .and how serious that is!
But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. {Acts 13:14} And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought *that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath* {Acts 13:42} And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. {Acts 13:44-45} And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither. {Acts 16:13} And Paul, *as his manner was* went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, {Acts 17:2} And he [Paul] reasoned in the synagogue *every* sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks. {Acts 18:4}
Psalms 111 : 7,8,10 the only Commandments God wrote down using His own hands is the ten Commandments. Concerning the 4th Commandment, there was many days set aside for their ceremonial days. The seventh Day Sabbath was not one of them. It is part of the 10 Commandments. The Bible say it will last forever. Hebrews 4 : 4, 7 - 11.
The scapegoat cannot be a sin offering because it doesn't follow the law of the sin offering. In the sin offering all the animals were slain and burned and the four was burned. Lev 4, 5, 6 ,7.
The Ten Commandments are exactly what they say “Commandments” not suggestions and they are clear and explicit in the wording so there is nothing left to speculation. The question is why are they twisted to suit your own beliefs? A lie is a lie, robbery is a sin, murder is wrong, God is to be worshiped, Saturday is the Seventh Day (Sabbath), Sunday is the sabbath of the pope. God said if you break one of them it’s as if you broke them all. Now a lot of you really don’t like this comment.
That brother is blind if he can't see that the transfer of the blood represented also the transfer of sin.. That was clearly seen in the daily burnt offerings, PLUS EVERY SIN OFFERING OFFERED BYTHE PEOPLE. The prayer of faith transferred the sins from the sinner to the Lamb. The lamb died , bearing our sins , which are now transferred to the sanctuary, awaiting us on the Day of ATONEMENT. The cleansing of the sanctuary is Jesus forgiving the sins of all Believers. The final phase is Jesus walking out of the sanctuary both to Bless His people and to bind up Satan as the Scapegoat.
Anytime that commandments contained in ordinances is discussed, it should also be explained in terms of the gospel first highlighted in Gen 3:15. The feasts and ordinances (law of Moses) was put in place because of sin (from the fall of our first parents and forward) noting that it (ordinances) were temporary until their fulfillment in the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ - at which time the 'ordinances were no longer necessary since Christ fullfilled all of the shadows of the ordinances. The ordinances simply foretold what Jesus would do - die for us in our place, be ressurected, and ascend to His Father in heaven. It should always be explained in the context of the gospel - the everlasting gospel.
Regarding being grafted into Israel and therefore Gentiles should keep the Sabbath, circumcision, and the law; let’s see what the apostles said concerning this.. ”forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:“ Acts 15:24 The apostles did not teach the observance of the law, this was considered “troubling” the Gentiles with a yoke that even their fathers could not bare..
Revelation 1 places Jesus in the Holy Place .The Book of Hebrews would be useless if Jesus had no heavenly priesthood .The Order of Melchizedek held three offices: Prophet , Priest and King. This fulfills the life Ministry of Jesus from earth to eternality.
Azazel does not bear "the blame for the mistakes or crimes of others.* - *Azazel bears the full blame FOR HIS PART in all the sins and crimes of all humanity [Ezekiel 28:13-15; Isaiah 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28:15-17; cf. 1 Timothy 3:6].* - *Azazel himself bears the greatest part of the responsibility for the sins committed by all human beings. AND THAT IS WHY THE SINS ARE HEAPED ON HIS HEAD.* - *AZAZEL RIGHTFULLY DESERVES ALL THE GUILT that is placed on his head.* - *Satan is most assuredly NOT "an innocent scapegoat".* *The scapegoat is not at all "allowed to escape"* That idea is erroneous. *For the goat for Azazel there is no escape at all.* The goat does not "escape". *The goat is condemned to isolation.* *This irreversible banishment into a desolate wilderness is a severe punishment, not an escape.* - *It is a decisive sentence.* *However, the English word •"scapegoat", which is only short for •"escape goat", [1828 American Dictionary]* does illustrate the understanding that this goat is *NOT a sacrifice. [Lev.**16:10**]* - *This goat "escapes" from being sacrificed. That is what the English name for this goat refers to.*
@@JamieElison: James, you may ask the question a billion times.--- There is not one Bible text that even suggests that Jesus was ever banished. According to your gospel, your jesus [Satan] did NOT die for you.* - *He did not atone for your sins at all.* -- *You are *without a mediator.* - *You have no advocate with the Father.* - *You have different jesus. Your jesus is the great dragon - that age-old serpent who was cast out of heaven that - that old serpent called the Devil and Satan* - *he deceived you the same way He deceived the angels, and they were cast out of heaven.* - *Your jesus [the Devil] is such a deceiver - he is cunning, shrewd, and subtle and he is the adversary - he is even accusing his own before the Father.* - *Woe to you for your jesus [Satan] knows that his time is short.* *You have no Savior and you are without grace that is necessary so sinners can be forgiven and led to obedience to God through the power of the Holy Spirit and the assistance of Jesus Christ, who is our Savior, High Priest, and Mediator.* - *You believe in cheap grace.* *[Emphasis for clarity]*
@@seekertruth3577Jesus said "why hast thou forsaken me". There's your scripture verse for Jesus being banished. Who is He who ascended..who also descended. Another verse
Response to the question concerning the sabbath and Israel.. Let’s not forget that the Sabbath was a covenant sign between Israel and God.. Let’s read : Exodus 31:13-17 (NIV): "Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.'" Ezekiel 20:12 (NIV): "Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy." Like circumcision, the Sabbath was a specific sign that identified Israel as the people of God.. That is why they still keep it today.. Lastly, Exodus 16 states when the sabbath was made for man (Israel) ”See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. So the people rested on the seventh day.“ Exodus 16:29-30
Who are the Israel of God? There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29} For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, *which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the spirit* and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. {Romans 2:28-29} Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ* For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace; And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby* And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God; [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun] {Ephesians 2:11-19} Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. {Acts 10:34-35} Again... But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. {Romans 2:10-11} Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel: *Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed. {Romans 9:6-8} Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. {Galatians 4:28-29} For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon *the Israel of God* {Galatians 6:15-16} And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again* {Romans 11:23} For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus* For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. {Galatians 3:26-27}
I see a lot of Evangelical and Catholic dogma's coming from Sean. It's funny how at the GC they mentioned that this doctrine of Christ not actually performing the High Priest work in the heavenly sanctuary.
I just want to make sure I was clear. Jesus' sacrifice and offering at the cross plus he "is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." He was sitting down from ascension and is as the bible says "waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet." The Holy Spirit is working now. Christ is sitting letting His work at the cross perpetually intercede as the Holy Spirit he sends sanctifies us. John 15:26 KJV But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me. Do you see Him doing something else?
I love these simple points. Nice. I'm going to play Azazel's Advocate, "don't you see, the Father and the Son we're wrestling over whom gets which goat..."
I think we also have to reconcile all scripture though. Why would the bible speak only of Jesus bearing the sins of the world? If there is a scripture with Satan bearing the sin that would be a strong point. We also have another way to look at why Satan is bound. Remember the Sacpegoat is free to roam the wilderness not bound: Mark 3:24-27 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 BUT NO ONE CAN ENTER A STRONG MAN'S HOUSE AND PLUNDER HIS GOODS, UNLESS HE FIRST BINDS THE STRONG MAN. THEN INDEED HE MAY PLUNDER HIS HOUSE. Rev 20:2-3 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and BOUND him for a thousand years, 3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, SO THAT HE MIGHT NOT DECEIVE THE NATIONS ANY LONGER, until the thousand years were ended. There is a thick parallel there. I'm just telling you what I see when we look at all scripture. But I can understand your stance.
Today April the 23rd is (high holy Sabbath John 19:31)!!! how come SDA is not commemorating ( high holy Sabbath ) ? I thought you were Sabbath keepers.
THE CROSS ONLY PROVIDED THE BLOOD TO OPEN UP THE SERVICES IN THE HEAVENLY SANCTUARY!!An atonement is made at every point :CROSS- THE HOLY PLACE _THE MOST HOLY PLACE
Notice Sabbath days, with an “S“ These days had only one thing to do with the Seventh-Day sabbath. And it was to keep a holy day during the feast as they would keep the Seventh-Day sabbath. Notice in the feast of unleavened bread that the first and last day of the seven day feast was to be kept holy. These would be known as sabbath days. Not to be confused with the Seventh-Day sabbath. They were nailed to the cross however; the sabbath of the Lord, the Seventh-Day, will never be nailed to the cross. Not one jot or title will pass from it. The Feast of Unleavened Bread, also known as Chag HaMatztot, is a seven-day holiday that begins on the fifteenth day of the first month following Passover. The first and last days of the holiday are holy observances, and people remove leaven from their homes and diets for the entire week.
In Leviticus 23 we have a list of the appointed festivals and the 7th day sabbath is the first one followed by all the others … why we have to make this so difficult… the 7 day sabbath is just like the others … and let’s no even talk about the lunar calendar that the Jews kept which is a whole different complex subject
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv that’s a great catch not a lot of people know that. But it does make sense to have an S because it was the first day of unleavened bread and also the sabbath, and both days were to be cape like the sabbath
@@TDMayday but do you understand what that means Jesus rose on your Sabbath. the weekly ..that day was a Thursday .Jesus died on Preparation day on a Wednesday John 19:31 there are two sabbaths in the same week. That's why the (S).. today ..is the high holy Sabbath in Israel for about another 1 hours ,today is high holy Sabbath in Israel ,it is established by the moon .if Jesus would have died this year he would be rising on the 25th. in the year that He died is the same as 2023 this is established by the moon, Jesus rose on your Sabbath.
@@TDMayday yeah but do you realize what that means? the day before that was Nissan 14 Wednesday (preparation day.John 19:31 (so high holy Sabbath was on a Thursday Nissan 15 ..like it is today in Israel( Nissan 15). For about 1 more hour. Jesus rose on your Sabbath ! It is high holy Sabbath in Israel right now..because this is established by the moon. therefore Jesus if it were this year.. that He would have died ..Hewould rise in another another 2 days. which would be on the 25th.. but the year that He died was the same as( 2023 because that moves around like it wants to based on the moon.. Jesus rose on your Sabbath!
According to what I understand Jesus is not the strong man. He is the high priest. The strong man would be the time. According to the interpretation of hebrew scripture
One must admit that John 19:28,30 *SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT AN ATONEMENT BEING FINISHED AT THE CROSS;* - *it simply says that Jesus cried,* - *“It is finished,”* - *Christ sacrificial atonement was certainly finished BUT His ministry as our high priest was yet to come.* “But this man [Jesus], *after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,* sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected* for ever them that are sanctified.”* Heb. 10:12-14. cf. Ps 110:1,4; Mat. 22:44; Lk 20:43; Acts 7:49; 1 Cor 15:25-28. [Heb 5:6-10; Heb. 7:28; 2:16-18; Heb 9:8,15 the humanity of Christ is the foundation for His Priesthood]. *The above text [Heb. **10:12**-14] says* - *that Christ is at “the right hand of God”.* *What is Christ doing at the right hand of God for the last 2000 years...?* *“Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even *at the right hand of God, who also •MAKETH INTERCESSION [G1793] FOR US.”* Rom. 8:34 *Why would Christ be making intercessions anymore if the entire ATONEMENT PROCESS was FINISHED at the cross?* Isn’t the work of intercession not part of Christ’s work to save us? *The KJV translates described atonement in the following manner:* atonement (71x), purge (7x), reconciliation (4x), reconcile (3x), forgive (3x), purge away (2x), pacify (2x), atonement...made (2x), merciful (2x), cleansed (1x), disannulled (1x), appease (1x), put off (1x), pardon (1x), pitch (1x). Peruse Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Hebrew Dictionary number H3722 kâphar and 3725. Additionally, numbers 2434, and 2643 in the Greek Dictionary. *This word is often used in the Old Testament. The only place you’ll find the word “atonement,” in the King James Version, is in Romans 5:10. But, in Greek, it is the very common word ‘katallassō’ [G2644].* - *In this word, there’s no hint of making amends.* It means ‘reconciliation’. *Holman’s Bible dictionary defines this word as follows:* -- *Reconciliation* … specifically the reconciliation between God and humanity affected by the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. … The basic Greek word is usually translated as “to reconcile”. The basic meaning is to establish a friendship. *Therefore Romans 5:10, in the NASB, reads:* “For if while we were enemies we were *reconciled [Greek katallassō G2644]* to God through the death of His Son.” *This eschatology is one of the most misunderstood Biblical teachings* and has been the subject of scrutiny and criticism. While critics may pride themselves in their list of *seemingly* conclusive arguments, *the truth is they have no argument.* - If there is no atonement after Calvary,* - *then there is no need for a Sanctuary ministry by Christ in heaven. And there is no need for an investigative [pre-advent] judgment to conclude that atoning work.* *We can CLEARLY see that the mediation of the Lord Jesus Christ is an atonement,* - *which means that He mediates for the forgiveness of our sins, being the Atoner who paid our debts on our behalf.* - *His mediation means that He says to the Father:* - *"Do not count their transgressions because I have carried their iniquity"* [Is.53:6]. *Thus, He stands as a Mediator between God and men; or rather, He is the only Mediator between God and men* [1 Tim 2:5]; *He fulfilled God’s Divine Justice and granted people the forgiveness of sins, by dying for them.*
@@JamieElison: The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent: *’I HAVE BLOTTED OUT,* as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: RETURN UNTO ME; FOR I HAVE REDEEMED THEE.’ [Isaiah 44:22]. IF you do not confess and return how do you expect your sins to be blotted out? *The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:* ‘Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, *when the times of refreshing shall come* from the presence of the Lord.’ [Acts 3:19]. *‘…and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.’* 1 John 1:7. On the other hand, Catholic's beliefs are contrary to the scriptures - they believe in purgatory - your sins just never gets blotted out. The Catholic Church makes most of its money through the doctrine of Purgatory. Many wealthy people over the centuries have bequeathed their estates to the Pope in order to be released from Purgatory sooner, and many over the centuries have made large contributions to release their loved ones from Purgatory. This wealth is reflected in the magnificent churches, golden altars, jeweled shrines, choice paintings, and exquisite sculptures that appeal to the love of beauty. The ear also is captivated. The music is unsurpassed. The rich notes of the deep-toned organ, blending with the melody of many voices as it swells through the lofty domes and pillared aisles of her grand cathedrals, cannot fail to impress the mind with awe and reverence. This outward splendor and ceremony mock the longings of the sin-sick soul and are evidence of inward corruption. Not only is the grace of God a FREE GIFT [Eph. 2:8] to anyone, but Christ Jesus PAID the full price for our sins. What did your Simon Magnus, the pagan sorcerer try do? He tried to BUY the gift of God WITH MONEY, and the apostle Peter sharply rebuked him. There is not the slightest hint in the Bible that says we need another mediator other than Jesus Christ [1 Tim. 2:5]. AND it is very clear from God’s word that we have DIRECT access to God THROUGH Jesus Christ and the only one other that God who can forgive sins is Jesus Himself [Matt. 9:6]. According to Catholic dogma, Purgatory is a fiery furnace in the bowels of the earth . . . but their "good news" is that some souls can be released early by the suffrages of the "Church Militant." *Purgatory is also found in the Latin Vulgate Version where the Greek word METANOEO (REPENT) is translated as PENANCE:* But he (rich man) said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance (Saint Luke 16:3O, Douay-Rheims Version). *"If we must choose between the Holy Scriptures of God, and the old errors of the church, we should reject the former."* Johnan Faber (a defender of the Papacy) cited in History of The Reformation, by Merle d'Aubinge, book 11, Chapter 5, Paragraph 9. It was the selling of indulgences to free the souls in "Purgatory" that led Martin Luther to confront and expose Friar John Tetzel and his pick-pocket Purgatory. Orthodox Christians have never believed in the mythical Purgatory. No wonder the Catholic Church is one of the richest, if not the richest institution in the world. The Vatican’s foundations were built on indulgences. *IF PURGATORY EXISTS, THEN JESUS’ SACRIFICE WAS ALL IN VAIN. PURGATORY IS A PAGAN INVENTION AND IS UNBIBLICAL.* *Here is a quote from Canon XXX of the Council of Trent:* ‘If anyone says that after the reception of the grace of justification the guilt is so remitted and the debt of eternal punishment so blotted out to every repentant sinner, that no debt of temporal punishment remains to be discharged either in this world or in purgatory before the gates of heaven can be opened, let him be anathema (accursed).’ - Canon and Decrees of the Council of Trent, Canon (30) XXX. Catholics who believe a purifying fire will purge away their sins are deluded victims of a fatal fabrication. The invention of a place for purification of sins called Purgatory is one of the most seductive attractions of the Roman Catholic religion. Over the centuries billions of dollars have been paid to Roman Catholic priests to obtain relief from imaginary sufferings in Purgatory's fire. The Catholic clergy has always taught that the period of suffering in Purgatory can be shortened by purchasing indulgences and novenas, buying Mass cards and providing gifts of money. When a Catholic dies, money is extracted from mourning loved ones to shorten the deceased's punishment in Purgatory. *The Council of Trent, by its Creed of Pius IV, makes it impossible for the Roman Catholic Church to change.* - *It added….twelve new articles to the Nicene Creed…..This Creed of Pius IV is a millstone around Rome’s neck. It binds the Roman Catholic Church forever to all its pagan errors.* - *It is its answer and challenge to the Reformation.*
@@JamieElison: I've noticed that my original post here has also been deleted. I'll repost it in part. Maybe some power to be flagged specific statements which were in no way offensive. I was merely quoting directly from that *universal* source. *I have the assurance that my sins are blotted out:* *The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:* ‘Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, *when the times of refreshing shall come* from the presence of the Lord.’ [Acts 3:19] *‘…and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.’* 1 John 1:7. *The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:* *’I HAVE BLOTTED OUT,* as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: RETURN UNTO ME; FOR I HAVE REDEEMED THEE.’ [Isaiah 44:22]. *If you do not confess and return how do you expect your sins to be blotted out?* *Our part is to accept His sacrifice, confess our sins, and to claim His power to walk in* - *“newness of life”* [Romans 6:4] God is “not willing that any should perish,” but longs that “all should come to repentance [2 Peter 3:9]. So James - you don't need an MDiv degree to make sense of the above isn't it?
@@seekertruth3577 so when are you sin free? Ellen says you have to be sin free to be saved?. Where did the sins go ( in) Jesus Christ 1st Peter 2:24 and how did they get there?
@@JamieElison: James, you keep repeating yourself. It appears that you are reading without understanding. Now you mention Ellen White. Many have misquoted her by focusing on extracts only of her statements. Same with the Bible - one has to compare scripture with scripture or else you do violence to the writings. As you have noticed I quote only from the Bible, and I am not to discredit Ellen White for one moment. You need to consult with those who thoroughly study her writings. *Many professed Christians focus on justification only* [professed faith in Jesus Christ], *and miss the important process of sanctification.* - *They profess to be justified and saved just because they 'believe' in Jesus, and yet continue to live sinful lives.* *We are sanctified through the truth - the truth of God's Word in our lives, and those who are sanctified through the truth are living recommendations of its power, and representatives of their risen Lord, Jesus Christ.* - *The religion of Christ will refine the taste, sanctify the judgment, elevate, purify, and ennoble the soul, making the Christian more and more fit for the society.* *'Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.'* John 17:17. *'And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.'* John 17:19. *'Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently.'* 1 Peter 1:22. *'Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.'* 2 Corinthians 7:1. In the above scriptures, we read about Bible sanctification. It is not merely a profession of faith, or external work. It is sanctification received through the channel of truth. *It is truth received in the heart, and practically carried out in our daily life, by obeying God, and not sinning wilfully.* *There is no Bible sanctification for those who cast truth aside.* We must embrace *ALL* Bible truth. *There is enough light given in the word of God, so that none need err. Jesus, considered as a man, was perfect, yet He grew in grace.* *‘And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.’* Luke 2:52. *Even the most perfect Christian may increase continually in the knowledge and love of God.* *Sanctification is not the work of a moment, an hour, or a day. It is a continual growth in grace, and a work that will continue our whole lives.* - *Not unless you believe in the unbiblical teaching of one saved always saved.* Cheers James
BROTHERS: You don't seem to know that the High priest went into the Most Holy Place THREE TIMES on the day of Atonement : 1) for himself and family, 2) the daily burnt offering and 3) offering of the blood of the Lord's Goat. Follow the process. The scapegoat is the one upon whom the sins that have been confessed and forgiven are placed upon , representing Satan in the End .
The Day of Atonement is indeed a unique process for the Hebrew cultic system. It is clear that the unique practices on the Day of Atonement are not for forgiveness of sin. In many ways this ceremony is in line with the ancient Hebraic understanding of mercy and justice. (Ps. 85:10, Deut. 32:4, Hos. 12:6) Those two must always balance. See the story of 2 Sam 14 for this to play out in court. The ruler is in some ways culpable for his mercy. This is also the story of Lev. 16. Forgiveness is in the blood and the goat for the Lord. (Heb. 9:22) However, the goat for Azazel is in contrast to the Lord and is viewed as the Lord's enemy in this regard. Hence the placement in the wilderness. (Lev. 17:7, Is. 34:13-14, Luke 11:24). So, what is going on here? It appears that God is balancing the mercy and justice of His government. He is clearing everything contrary to His purpose out of His presents, i.e. the camp of Israel. One must understand that Christ is not the only bearer of sin. Unrepentant sinners bear sin. (Lev. 10:17, 20:20) Also, a false accuser will bear the sin of the accusation. (Deut. 19:15-21) Also, atonement can involve the justice carried out on a sinner. (Num. 25:13). So, either you let Christ take care of your sin or you bear the responsibility. Also, you bear responsibility if you bring sin into a community. Does this sound familiar? (Gen. 3) It is clear that the references to Christ's atonement and forgiveness involves His sacrifice. He pleads His sacrifice and therefore can provide us His life. (Zech. 3, Heb. 9:26) This is beautiful truth and the reality of our assurance of Salvation.
Jesus bore our sins according to the Bible. Nowhere in the bible does it say Satan bore our sins. But I believe the thing that we have hung our hat on is this imagery in Revelation 20:1-3. Notice Satan is bound yet the Scapegoat is not. I see a stronger parallel here in Mark 3:23-27 23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 BUT NO ONE CAN ENTER A STRONG MAN'S HOUSE AND PLUNDER HIS GOODS, UNLESS HE FIRST BINDS THE STRONG MAN. THEN INDEED HE MAY PLUNDER HIS HOUSE. Also if you read the details the Atonement isn't done for the people and priest until Lev 16:24 KJV when the burnt offering occurs. Tell me your thoughts.
@@twocrackedeggs if Jesus Christ is both Goats ( then you have eliminated the investigative judgment)! and now you're finally Christian!. If you're believing what He did at the cross,( was finished!) If you're not ,,(you're not Christian!) That's what people will be judged on,,( is whether they had faith in what he did at the cross.!! Paid for the sins with his blood. And remove the sins.. Isaiah 43:25.. that's the second goat! all on the same day! (That set you free)!!!!!! otherwise you're never forgiven and you're never free!
God has never had any problems speaking to me through the king james Bible nor in the english language.... Jesus and the King James Bible is 2 of the most attacked on this Earth. And I'm sticking with them both.
Nothing wrong with the King James Version. Nothing wrong with using the Legacy Standard Bible. Nothing wrong with using the English Standard Version. All versions are good because they come from the Greek, Hebrew and little Aramaic manuscripts we have. The King James version Greek manuscripts are generally considered to be older manuscripts than the NASB manuscripts for example, but the word of God is found in either. Even the KJV translators believed that you can get the word of God from any translation.
I agree, Omitted verses from modern-day corrupted bibles. (As to think to have a works based gospel.) • Matthew 17:21 • Matthew 18:11 • Matthew 23:14 • Mark 7:16 • Mark 9:44 and 9:46 • Mark 11:26 • Mark 15:28 • Mark 16:9-20 • Luke 17:36 • John 5:3-4 • Acts 8:37 • Acts 15:44 • Acts 24:6-8 • Acts 28:29 • Romans 16:24 • 1 John 5:7-8 Partially, and other omitted verses • Matthew 20:16b • Mark 6:11b • Luke 4:8b • Luke 9:55-56 • Luke 23:17 (preserved in Matthew 27:15 and as Mark 15:6) • Acts 9:5-6 • Acts 13:42 • Acts 23:9b • Titus 2:13b
@@larrybedouin2921 Funny thing is, the oldest biblical manuscripts we have more so point to (some of) these verses being interpolations. However, that's why we have textual criticism, to determine the best readings considering we have textual variants. I believe Mark 16:9-20 is original, but I can't deny the fact that the earliest dated Codex we have does not have the verse. The writings of the early Church Fathers help us here as well since these men quoted tons of scripture, so we can see if they quoted this reading or this one etc.
@@sttuffwithjoe4477 Oldest does not equal best. They're all copies. None are the autograph. In my experience those who are critical of the KJV want bibles that will tickle their ears instead of exposing their fallen condition.
@@larrybedouin2921 Greetings Larry! Another problem for modern translations: Romans 2:12 KJV For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; Romans 2:12 NASB For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; Romans 2:12 “sinned under the law”? The word used in TR is: ἐν (en G1722) which means in or in the law, not under. Romans 6:14 “ye are not under the law but under grace” Under= ὑπό (hypo G5259) These two verses not translated properly are hardening people’s determination to not keep God’s commandments. They think that we are not under the law but under grace. The truth is: Where there is no law, there is no transgression or sin. Where there is no sin, grace is not imputed. --- Matthew 17:19-21 KJV Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? [20] And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. [21] Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. NASB: 19Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, “Why could we not cast it out?” 20And He *said to them, “Because of your meager faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith [i]the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. Verse 21: MISSING! Again: Mark 9:28-29 KJV And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? [29] And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting. NASB: 28When He came into the house, His disciples began asking Him privately, “Why is it that we could not cast it out?” 29And He said to them, “This kind cannot come out by anything except prayer.” Verse 29: Fasting is omitted.
When you read what Moses did, the "inauguration", you see he says "this is the Covenant". This inauguration you say Jesus did, was done at the Last Supper, when Jesus says the same phrase "this is the New Covenant". So nice try guys. The Bible clearly states Jesus "cleansed" our sins. Therefore, He sprinkled the blood on The Mercy Seat, immediately. Not in 1844.
Both goats were to be suitable as a sin offering. One reason the scape goat was specified as such is the solemnity of the ceremony. They were not to use the ceremony to cull an unworthy animal. When sin is finally destroyed forever in the lake of fire every forgiven sin is placed on Satan and he burns for all of them. The wicked burn for their own sins.
What you said comes from Satan himself he likes to do your atonement as it says in Leviticus 16:10 technically you have given him permission to own you
Why do you have Christ death at 33 A.D.? He was baptized and anointed at around 30 years of age which would’ve been in 27 A.D. It was in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1-22. Tiberius started his reign in 12 A.D. as co-Emperor with his stepfather Augustus Caesar. When you use 33 A.D. the 70 week prophecy starting in 457 BC and the start of the 70th week starting in 27 A.D., you throw off the whole prophecy. Christ died in 30 A.D.
@@JamieElison yeah well the US Naval calendar and all the calendars have a bunch of screwed updates. The 70 week prophecy tells us the exact dates according to the Bible.
@@TDMayday then why don't you show me where the ending date of the 69th week is? You're saying it starts in Ezra chapter 7: 9. And the Roman calendar didn't exist when this happened .so give me the ending.date(. to the day) on the 69 weeks because it tells you.
@@TDMayday you might want to look. The US naval observatory calendar. For the 26 through the year 34. For Passover week.. I was reading your other other stream. the s" does matter and their dates are perfect! You can just ask your phone for for that ..make sure you get the one that has all the right writing on it. It'll have a red line on the week that you're looking for. in the year 31! You got to remember I know you're interpretation of Daniel 9:27. You're telling me the 70th week is written in the Bible pertaining to what you say. Be sure and give me verses for that.
@@JamieElison Evidence for this appears to be the ancient Roman historian Suetonius. To quote wikipedia's article on Tiberius: However, according to Suetonius, after a two-year stint in Germania, which lasted from 10−12 AD, "Tiberius' returned and celebrated the triumph which he had postponed, accompanied also by his generals, for whom he had obtained the triumphal regalia. And before turning to enter the Capitol, he dismounted from his chariot and fell at the knees of his father, who was presiding over the ceremonies.” "Since the consuls caused a law to be passed soon after this that he should govern the provinces jointly with Augustus and hold the census with him, he set out for Illyricum on the conclusion of the lustral ceremonies." Thus according to Suetonius, these ceremonies and the declaration of his "co-princeps" took place in the year 12 AD, after Tiberius return from Germania.
Wow it only took you guys 11 minutes to show your understanding of the scriptures, the only sacrifice that stopped was of animals for repentance, he was the ultimate sacrifice, wow Paul and all the other apostles kept the feast days ! You do recall the miracle of tongues correct on acts 2 ????? Yeah that was on the HOLYDAY Pentecost!! Please don’t be deceived by these men, also when your in obedience to keep Gods feast , no one especially of ppl in ignorance to this God given knowledge can say a absolute word to you for you obedience to Gods word.. I pray you gentleman come out that denomination I was born in it and it’s false… I pray you guys prepare for the Passover tonight and remove the leaven out of your homes… be blessed
Jesus Christ as our High Priest offers expiation for our sins after the cross with His blood. See Heb 9:13-14 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? When Jesus died on the cross, He saved us from the penalty of sin. This is justification; this is our imputed righteousness. Jesus ministers on our behalf in the heavenly sanctuary, as our high priest to save us from the power of sin. This is sanctification; this is our imparted righteousness. [See: The Cross and The Sanctuary Part 2 Study Guide, Written by: David Shin. Also: He promised that He went to “prepare a place” for us (John 14:3).
The bible is written in black and White , but many of the stories and parables are better understand in 3D. But without the Holy Spirit we just can't see it .THE ULTIMATE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR SIN IS SATAN. Thus the sins are being shown being placed upon the scapegoat .
Our sins have gone ahead of us to the sanctuary. The same Jews that confessed their sins for 359 days of the year , HAD TO MEET ALL THEIR SINS AGAIN ON THE DAY OF ATONEMENT. Please tell Sean that he is wrong .
@@twocrackedeggs There is a restaurant chain The Cracked Egg. Now I know the end is near by you calling yourself Two cracked Eggs. If you knew the sanctuary and it's services , you would know that the life was in the blood. Thus by confessing our sins over the head of the lamb, our sins are transferred to the lamb. The lamb's life is taken in place our ours but the blood of the lamb is sprinkled on the veil inside the Holy Place, as a reminder that it was our sins that cause the death of the Lamb. All debts were not settled until the day of Atonement .
@@rodneysmith3578give me the verse in the Bible that says the (sins ever go into the sanctuary!!!!..)...(be sure and don't break the 9th commandment )!... because that's going to put you in Revelation 21:8!
@@rodneysmith3578 man…people come out swinging in the comments. How are you supposed to spread this last day message by trying to come for people? Remember the mission. It's not about me or you it's about Christ my brother. So on to your source text. Lev 17:11 in context. Leviticus 17:11 ESV [11] For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. By your logic it should read Leviticus 17:11 ESV [11] For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to DEFILE it yet it still somehow makes atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement and defilement by the life. The problem with the logic is the animal is killed at the door sin-filled blood goes into the basin after the sin transfer to its head, right? At that point you believe your atonement happened. What you believe is that the blood now given for you and placed on the altar defiles but for some reason in your very own proof text God shows you that it atones which reestablishes your connection to God. Atonement (dictionary definition) 1. Amends or reparation made for an injury or wrong; expiation. 2. An individual's reconciliation with God by means of repentance and confession of one's transgressions. 3. The reconciliation of God and humans brought about by the redemptive life and death of Jesus. Reconciliation happens at the altar when blood is placed not sin transfer. Atonement can't mean sin still exists in one service but doesn't in another. The word should have consistency. Look throughout Leviticus.The blood is never doing what you say. It is always holy, cleansing and purifying even after a transfer of sin to the head of the animal. Also God did not leave a mystery as to what defiles the sanctuary as the Bible has made it plain. No where does it say the confessed sins defile the sanctuary. I can give you this based on what is in scripture: My sin is defiling the sanctuary up until I confess my sin. Remember the blood on the altar according to the Bible atones and reestablishes my connection with God. Now what defiles the sanctuary which is also the same as what profanes Gods name? Numbers 19:20 NLT “But those who become defiled and do not purify themselves will be cut off from the community, for they have defiled the sanctuary of the Lord. Since the water of purification has not been sprinkled on them, they remain defiled. Ezekiel 44:7 NLT You have brought uncircumcised foreigners into my sanctuary-people who have no heart for God. In this way, you defiled my Temple even as you offered me my food, the fat and blood of sacrifices. In addition to all your other detestable sins, you have broken my covenant. Ezekiel 23:38 ESV For they have committed adultery, and blood is on their hands. With their idols they have committed adultery, and they have even offered up[e] to them for food the children whom they had borne to me. 38 Moreover, this they have done to me: they have defiled my sanctuary on the same day and profaned my Sabbaths. More Defilement Texts Deuteronomy 12:5-6, Numbers 19:20, Leviticus 20:1-3, Leviticus 15:31, Ezekiel 44:7, 2 Chronicles 29:4-7, 2 Chronicles 36:14, Ezekiel 22:26, Ezekiel 23:38, Ezekiel 24:21, Ezekiel 36:17-36, Malachi 2:10-12, Jeremiah 7:30, Jeremiah 32:34 Take a look at the text as I have looked at yours and tell me if you see where I'm coming from.
@@rodneysmith3578 The sins are only sprinkled on the veil when the priest atones for himself or the collective congregation, not leaders or individuals. It doesn't even go into the holy place for individuals. The blood is placed on the Brazen Altar outside for atonement. However for the priest and congregation I will take it as a receipt of debt paid. The blood is a cleansing and purifying agent throughout Leviticus and when it was used in Egypt for Passover it didn't denote sin, but it meant safety and coverage by the blood. It can be a reminder to the priest maybe, but you need the Bible to back you up here for sin transfer. It is not there.
Jesus told His Disciples to keep the Passover Feast, until He comes again. This is the fulfillment of the feast of Unleavened Bread and first fruits, which are being kept every first day of the week, until He comes again. Jesus said, do this in memory of Me, until I come again...and I will be with you, until the end of age. I will never leave you or forsake you. He gave us The Lord's Supper, and His Holy Spirit, until He comes again. The Eucharist is that gift, the treasure He gave His Church, until He comes again. That is why the Eucharist has been celebrated for 2000 years, since the beginning of the Church
He replaced it with the emblems of remembrance, the bread and the wine. The difference being that the Passover pointed forward to his sacrifice and the new covenant remembers it. The Passover itself requires a sacrifice and Jesus died once for all. Thusly, the Eucharist has been a perpetual heresy since the 300’s as it is continually presented as placing Christ continually onto the cross repeatedly and perpetually. I have news for you: He is risen. His one sacrifice is sufficient and requires no repetition.
@@russhay422 Jesus isn't re sacrificed during the Eucharist. This is misunderstanding and a lie that Protestants always say. It's the Body and Blood that Jesus provides for us, because of His one sacrifice. Remember the loaves which Jesus multiplied, and there were left overs. Just like the loaves were multiplied to provide for the whole congregation, so to Jesus provides His Body and Blood perpetually to those who come to Him, from the one sacrifice
@@russhay422 We also do need the repetition of the cleansing of our sins, because we continue to sin. Also, the Eucharist has been there from the beginning. Read St. Ignatius of Antioch 's writings from 70 AD. He was a disciple of John the Apostle, as well as many other early Christian writings from the 1st century
The Law that was put on the side of the Arc was the Symbol of Jesus, who sits at the side, Right Hand, of the Father. Yet, At the Same time, the commandments that are in the Arc, also speak of Jesus, who is The Ten Commandments in the flesh. Jesus IS BOTH, The Book of the Law, and the Covenant, in the Flesh
You all seems to love human reasoning... so look at this..."The sabbath was made for man" You guys only quote half the verse to show your point, but if you quote the whole verse which includes... "not man for the sabbath" So in essent, Jesus is saying that man was not made for the sabbath. He was responding to the Jews accusing him of breaking the sabbath. Question to you is, if a toy car was made for me was I made for the toy car? Of cause not. If a real car comes along do I stick with the toy car? Of cause not. I go for what is better. The church has a better covenabmnt.
Who does Jesus Christ tell you in Matthew 24:15 (the abomination of desolation is)? in Daniel 9:27? The (abomination is a dreadful sin) the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13 right where you come from!!!! so you're saying Jesus is doing a dreadful sin in. Daniel 9::27 Daniel 9 is written (in chronological order ).when the 70th week is written its past 70 a.d.! After Titus! To say that's Jesus Christ .(is blaspheming Jesus Christ!) The (prince of the covenant) is Daniel 11:21 and 22 the guy that wins the kingdom. (by flattery's). it's the Antichrist at the end of Time! the guy you think is the Pope! The little Horn of Daniel 7! What's the agreement for ?...Revelation chapter 11 that (sanctuary) hasn't been built yet. The one in Daniel 11!!! why don't you look at the red heifer videos and understand what it's about!
You can't get to 1844 in the fall with 2300. The math don't let you do it you're starting out with the lie that created you right from the start. Show me how you're going to do that and be sure you're not breaking the 9th commandment when you do it.
You're not admitting that the Devil comes back at the end of the thousand Years! carrying your sins .he's going to dump them right into your lap! when you're at the great white throne judgement. If you're going to make the devil be the sin bearer ..(who is Jesus Christ on cross.)! He doesn't go away.. he comes back to you. Not one verse you're saying that represents this,, is in the scripture.. you're inventing it! You can't find one scripture or the verse in the Bible ,,that says the devil is the second Goat of Leviticus 16:10! It's not there..(. it got created by your false prophet ).and she said that's Jesus Christ. Manuscript 112. Page 18 the first paragraph 1897. But would never admit it to anybody... but it's written down ..so what are you going to do about that? because when that happens... your investigative judgment goes out the door.. because Isaiah 43:25 would have happened... and there is no functioning heavenly sanctuary it would not be necessary.. as Hebrews 7:13 says. that's why you're not Christian! No Christian in the world has that theology that's blaspheming the holy Spirit!
Adventist cultists are Bible illiterate and biblical fools. They parrot 🦜 a few proof texts and talking points in ignorance as they pompously proclaim they are in God’s only last days remnant church. They have been captured, deluded, and bewitched. What’s pathological is the sickening arrogance while being incredibly ignorant.
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv I asked my Adventist health evangelist father why he was an Adventist. His reply was superficial, and lacking any depth or nuance. “ I’m an Adventist because Adventists keep all the commandments.” It was sad and pathetic. Adventists sell an extremely simple message. If you want to be right with God you keep his commandments. If you say you love God you must keep his commandments. It’s a simple message for simple minded people.
Yeah but telling the truth to an SDA person is disrespectful.. coming from an SDA person!!. So if you're teaching a lie and someone is telling you the truth ..you consider it disrespectful! The second Goat of Leviticus 16:10.. if he's the devil.. as you say. ( your blaspheming the holy Spirit!)... Matthew 12:31 and 32 you're attributing to the holy Spirit what (Jesus Christ himself) does on the cross! 1 Peter 2:24 the sins are( in )Jesus Christ 1st Peter 2:24 they cannot be there ,if He's not both Goats!. The second Goat is there at the same time ( when the sins are removed).. it's the second (Goat that removes the sins)! the sins cannot be( in )Jesus Christ. Based upon your teaching... you have destroyed Jesus in his entirety ..and that's what creates your investigative judgment.. because Isaiah 43:25, cannot possibly happen.! no Christian in the world has that! They will not blaspheme the holy Spirit like that!!!!!. SDA does it with no conscience at all!
The idea that the Scapegoat is for Azazel, a demonic spirit, is the majority view among scholars today. Notes from the NET Bible. From the Dallas Theological Seminary. Azazel the Scapegoat. Leviticus 16:8 tn Heb “and Aaron shall give lots on the two he-goats.” See the note on Lev 8:8 for the priestly casting of lots in Israel and the explanation in B. A. Levine, Leviticus (JPSTC), 102, on Lev 16:8-9. J. Milgrom, Leviticus (AB), 1:1019-20, suggests, however, that the expression here signifies that, the lots having been cast, the priest was to literally “place” (Heb “give”) the one marked “for the Lord” on the head of the goat to be sacrificed and the one marked “for Azazel” on the head of the one to be released in the wilderness in order to avoid confusing them later in the ritual sequence. THE MOST COMMON VIEW AMONG SCHOLARS TODAY is that it is the proper name of a particular demon (perhaps even the Devil himself) associated with the wilderness desert regions. Levine has proposed that it may perhaps derive from a reduplication of the ז (zayin) in עֵז combined with אֵל (ʾel, “mighty”), meaning “mighty goat.” The final consonantal form of עֲזָאזֵל would have resulted from the inversion of the א (ʾalef) with the second ז. He makes the point that the close association between עֵז and שְׂעִירִים (sheʿirim), which seems to refer to “goat-demons” of the desert in Lev 17:7 (cf. Isa 13:21, etc.), should not be ignored in the derivation of Azazel, although the term ultimately became the name of “the demonic ruler of the wilderness.”
@@mikeforfar9493give me the verse in the Bible that says as (Azazel is the goat)? rather than a location. If Azazel is the devil.. there would not be any way the sins can be in Jesus Christ first Peter 2:24. What did Jesus do with those sins?
Show me the verse in the Bible that says their sins are in the blood? that are get taken into the sanctuary !be sure and print the verse! You're saying a dirty sins are going into the heavenly sanctuary and there is not a verse in the Bible that says their sins being taken into any sanctuary even on the Earth! Your blaspheming what Jesus Christ did at the cross he blotted them out Isaiah 43:25 present past and future otherwise you do not have job and Abraham in heaven! He paid it ahead! That never happens for you you're blaspheming Jesus Christ! No sins ever go into the sanctuary if you did that you would die! Your answer is Hebrews 7:13 He does nothing at the altar .and He didn't do it on the earth either! In a sanctuary!!!!! He was on the cross ..Jesus never went into the sanctuary carrying any sins! He's the first and the second Goat.
The most holy place has got nothing to do with what Jesus is doing.. he's doing nothing with sin.. He said it's finished at the cross.. you're trying to drag dirty sins into a perfectly clean sanctuary .in heaven.. which does not happen.. your blaspheming Jesus Christ. You're saying his atonement at the cross was not good enough... And when He said it's finished.. you're saying it's not finished. He's doing nothing at the altar ..Hebrew 7:13. No sins went into the earthly sanctuary on the earth. and no sins are going in the heavenly sanctuary.. Isaiah 43:25 never happens for SDA that means they're never forgiving! that's why you have no salvation!
483 years from Ezra chapter 7 verse 9 . ends up in the last day of the year 26... On the Jewish calendar it's (4 years in 28 days from there to the Cross April 25th in the year 31...( that's 4 years and 28 days)!!!!! that's not in the middle of any seven !!!!!!!!...why ?because it doesn't belong there! you're misinterpreting the entire text!
I worked 13 hours on Saturday, April 20, 2024. At no time did the Holy Spirit convict me that I was sinning. The Holy Spirit convicts me often in regard to not loving perfectly as Jesus loves. I allow no Adventist pompous Pharisee to judge me in regard to food or drink or a festival or a new moon or Sabbath or what day I labor. Millions of Adventists have already joined James and Ellen in eternal hell. These blasphemous heretics are on their way to join the little flock in eternal regret.
Jesus is that strong man.
It's great seeing Sean come to the knowledge of the truth. That brings him out of Adventism.
No way is Satan given anything from God but destruction.
Jesus is presenting the merits of His sacrifice to the Father on behalf of all who believe on Him for the forgiveness of sin. Jesus is working out my salvation.
@2:14:27 - I like the analogy. @2:10:55, - Man there is a lot of suffering on the earth, it is a lot. Where is God as sin is continuing to spread evil? Didnt Christ take all the sins upon himself and atone for them?
Sean you are right Hebrews said Jesus went in once for all . The Investigative Judgement doesn't give assurance but I am glad and encouraged the ministers do believe in assurance
That's what they say when they're not under stress but when their day comes you're going to see what they really believe
Your missing the outcome of this investigative judgement. Daniel's assurances is found in the outcome of the investigative judgement. Please read Daniel 7:21,22; 27
@@kabukizanshin1 there is no investigative judgment in Daniel 7 you're not understanding what it says
Yeah I was glad to hear the assurance seems to be clear to them. The once and for all message to me can't have a secondary sacrifice and offering for this later Day of Atonement. That would mean God needs to return the accepted sacrifice to do it all over again. I did freestyle the discussion because I had that one question but I am open to a fuller discussion where I'm prepared. The issue at hand is that God has to follow the calendar of feasts for them. I get it but I don't agree. The God of order should have sentenced us to death, just as the law on its own does. But grace and mercy through His Spirit doth abound.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Who was it that came to the Ancient of Days? The judgment scene there in Daniel 7, what phase of judgments is it?
Amen!
For the scapegoat, the sin is transfer to him. But for Jesus, the lamb of God. He takes away or sins. Taking away is different from being transferred.
I hope that helps out
0:00 - Intro
1:19 - Today's Topic
6:44 - E-Sword and Blue Letter
8:50 - Why Don't We Celebrate the Feast Days?
35:22 - Does the word Sabbath always mean the 7th Day Sabbath?
41:59 - Guest 1 - Let no man judge you as you keep the Feast Days?
53:22 - Did Jesus enter the Most Holy Place at His Ascension?
1:07:01- Guest 2 - Just saying hello
1:08:03 - Guest 3 - Was the Sabbath just for Jews?
1:34:54 - Guest 4 - Who does the Scapegoat represent?
2:24:48 - Thoughts on the Discussion
2:28:58 - Email Exchanges with Answering Adventism
2:32:59 - Announcements
Very helpful. Thank You! @thatnicekid04
@@Adrian_Mason my pleasure 🙏
@@thatnicekid04 my dude!!
@@FishermensCorner this is what I do 😁
Keep being awesome!!!
Could you guys show in the NT the food laws still being required? I've had this question for a while. I research it but it's also good to ask questions right 🙏🏿
It's not direct but implied by Acts 15. I'll be giving a sermon touching this in 2 weeks
@@FishermensCorner I was thinking of Acts 15, but it really just mentions strangled foods and foods with blood. These are parts of the Food laws, but I would wish if there was things more direct in the NT, and if there is that's great. I know Isaiah 66 is mentioned. I need to read the context of that chapter to determine if it's talking about the end, but that's one passage I can think of.
@@sttuffwithjoe4477 it's not direct and intentional. We don't have to eat kosher, but it's to our benefit if we do. Eating things profaned by idols in a modern context is branded, corporate glop. Our idols are brands, marketing, product loyalty, etc
@@FishermensCorner The dietary restrictions given to Israel were part of the Mosaic covenant, a tutor meant to set that nation apart until Christ ushered in the new covenant (Galatians 3:24-25). When the perfect Lamb arrived, the temporary sacrificial system was fulfilled and abolished, including the food laws (Mark 7:19). For you to claim Acts 15 somehow implies a continuation of kosher is simply absurd eisegesis reading your desired meaning into the text rather than deriving it through proper hermeneutics. Acts 15 declares Gentile believers are not bound to Mosaic law, only abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, blood, strangled meat, and sexual immorality. Not a syllable about kosher!
@e.t.h.559 that is absolutely incorrect. I'm not going to ruin my sermon that I'm going to give it a couple of weeks, but to be very clear, Leviticus 17 and 18 have a specific provision for the "Foreigner..." and are the legal justification of Acts 15. let's be very clear as well, if we love God with all our hearts then that's why we are called to love the image of god, our neighbor. How can we do good work for 6 days if we are in an unhealthy state, how can we turn to God and give him everything we have if we are in a unhealthy state. It is a natural outcome of following the first commandment alone, have no other Idols before him. It is absolutely proper exegesis, and I'm excited to share it with you soon.
Regarding Isaiah 56.. We must remember that the only way a stranger could keep the certain feast days was by circumcision.. If they participated in this ritual, they could keep Passover and offer sacrifices.. This is old covenant language.
Let’s read
”even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: 👉their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; 👈for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.“
Isaiah 56:7
The ceremonial laws showed that those who performed them were expressing faith in the coming Christ.
Can we have a serious talk about the sanctuary , 144,000 and the man of Romans 7 ??? smile
Your correct they we’re object lesson to a people that had just come out of slavery. It was the simplest way for God to educate them on the plan of salvation.
Correct they were all pointing towards the coming lamb. The best way for God to educate a none educated people.
Lev 19:34 for Christians we are all called out of spiritual Egypt. There is a spiritual application of the text. That spiritual lesson also applies to the Ten Commandments. All ten of them.
I'm actually doing a sermon on this in a couple weeks. :-)
@@FishermensCornerwhere's that at? the church of the latter Day saints?
@JamieElison Jimbob, you're LDS! Say hi to Azazel for me, I'll be in the camp.
Well, the Bible does not quite agree with that. Psalm 111 : 7,8,10 the commandments God wrote down with His own hands are for ever. Yes there was. In the Old Testament 4 different sets of laws.
A) moral laws ( Ten Commandments)
B) civil laws how to deal with rebellion
C) ceremonial laws
D) health laws ( to keep them free from sickness as they cross the desert. (And sanitation)
Most Christian’s bunch them up all in one which is wrong.
Even God didn’t do that.
@fournierro1 those categories, although helpful, are not biblically defined. They are defined implicitly with the exception of the moral law. We know what the moral law is because God wrote it and God required it for atonement in the Ark of the Covenant under the mercy seat. It was explicitly, set apart.
Advent Defense leaque: How can I get a PDF copy of " Why Dont we celebrate the feast days?" Thank you. God bless.
Email me at: info.adventdefenseleague@gmail.com
As you read the feast days you will notice that their purpose was to educate them of the plan of salvation. The Lamb That was To Come And Pay The Price for man’s sin. Once the lamb had come the Jewish nation responded well and got to learn that Jesus was that lamb. Yes most refused , but the apostles and their converts did understand.
Many gentiles came out of Egypt with the Jews. Note that the Sabbath was made mention of at every great display of power by God : Creation, Deliverance (Deut5:15 ) and Sanctification (Eze 20 :12 ) This is shown both in the OT and NT.
The feast days are apart of the ceremonial law that ended at the cross when Jesus said it is finished
Then He died
What is your your biblical proof that it is only the ceremonial law and not the whole law?
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd before Jesus died on the cross. Yes before there was even going to be another Sabbath, He said; “ pray that your flight be not in the winter or on the Sabbath day. Then He died before there was even another Sabbath day to be. And there was not going to be another winter for nine months. Which is when you think it is when it was no longer to exist.
@@fournierro1
The Sabbath cannot be observed on a round Earth.
The long days and nights at the north and south poles make this impossible without sunrise and sunset. No fires could be kindled on the Sabbath at the poles.
Also, the International Date Line and Time Zones are inventions of man for man's convenience.
God did not leave instructions for Sabbath observance when crossing them. Astronauts could travel at the same speed as the rotation of the earth and never experience a sunset or sunrise to change days.
@@fournierro1
Are you comfortable committed to the Seventh-day Adventist which is twice cursed for its false gospel (Gal. 1:6-9), cursed for its reliance on the law (Gal. 3:10 ), teachings of anti-Christ because it denies the one final atonement of Christ
(1 Jn. 2:22), a church with a founder which God declared abominable (Deut.
18:11 -12) for witchcraft, necromancy and mediumship and a church that teaches doctrines of demons (1 Tim
4:1-4) forbidding marriage and abstinence from foods?
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd I find it funny when people try and find ways to justify Sin. Psalm 111: 7, 8, 10. Personally I always prefer Jesus councils. Matthew 24: 20. When he was answering Peter’s question in verse #3 About the LAST days . Here is the difference between those who believe and those who wish to get rid of Bible truth. Hebrews 4 : 3 - 11. Don’t forget it is talking about THE SEVENTH DAY on this wise.
No wonder Satan is so fixed on attacking those who still take to heart The only Commandments God wrote down using His own hands.
Revelation 12 : 17. But I’ll be patient with those who do not take God’s word seriously. Revelation 14 : 12.
2:30:27 FYI, him and his dad are in my SDA conference.
ISAIAH 56 prophesied that that both Jews and Gentitles will keep the Sabbath in the earth made new. Rvelation 22: 14-16 says only those who keep the commandment of God, not man's commandment, will go to heaven... Isaiah 66:23-23 says ALL flesh shall worship God from one SABBATH to another. Psalm 138:2 says God magnified His Word above His Name. Amos 3:7 God does NOTHING without revealing His plan to His servants the prophets. Matthew 28:20: He also says that we are to follow ONLY what He has commanded Psalm 111:7-10 also say that all His commandments stand fast forever and ever. I am learning and willing to obey the word of God if some one can show me from the Bible that God commanded a change of the 7th day Sabbath to the first day of the week, Sunday. Thank you. God bless.
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The year was 537 AD when the Roman church changed the Ten Commandments to their suppose advantage. There are three of them that they changed. Look up the Ten Commandments in the Catholic church. Then compare they to the ones in the Bible and you will see the changes that was made. Exodus 20.
You use Isaiah 66 to support sabbath keeping in the new earth because it says ‘from one sabbath to another’ but what about the new moon part of that text - SDA’s always miss that part out -do you observe new moons ?
(Also Will the day/night pattern
be followed if there’s no need
for sun & moon because God
Himself will be the light in the
new earth? )Or is there possibly a different meaning to Isaiah 66? ie could it refer to ‘all the time’ 🤷🏼♀️
Advent Defense : You would note that blood was placed both on the veil and the horns of the altar of incense, accumulating all year (359 days). On the 360 th day, the day of Atonement , the high priest stop at the altar of incense walking in touching the horns , figuratively picking up those sins for the whole year , and than going into the Most Holy Place and presenting them to God . On His way out of the Sanctuary , the high priest stops at the altar of incense again, picking up those sins that had accumulated while he was inside the Most Holy Place. This covers those who came late on the day of atonement / 1844- YOU and ME. The service is complete when all sins are confessed over the head of the scapegoat, and it is led into the wilderness by a strong man/ Christ.
Love this.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueLet’s Talk!
Interesting observations. Thank you.
The hebrew meaning of Azazel is the Absolute Removal of Sin.
This is what Jesus did on the cross
When it comes 2 d feast days, we may wonder and realize, if we should still keep them, then what was "nailed 2 d cross," if those were not abolished!So let's pray 4 understanding w wisdom, knowledge, n discretion, as King Solomon says. What was nailed 2 d cross? Let's pray about it.❤
A better rendering of that passage is-
having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Brothers , Why don't you call a conference on the study of the sanctuary and a few other interesting topics ???
Those feast days and ceremonies were a shadows pointing to the Lamb of God (Jesus) to come. The weekly Sabbath is different from the yearly sabbaths that came once a year with its feasts and feastivals.......
No, they are all the same. Whether weekly, monthly or yearly, they are all sabbaths.
In the conversation with Sean, the point of the feasts being in order was a good point. I really wished you guys sat on that point more the whole time because every time you brought up other themes he would filp to I see it this other way. So I would say for next time that you should stick to just that point. Bringing up facts like the day of Pentecost which was fulfilled in order. Asking for scripture to demonstrate how the order is no longer being applied. Just sit on that point and if they can't answer then agree to part ways as Cotto said at one point in the video. In that way they will leave knowing that they couldn't answer that question and maybe rethink. Cause if you notice that's where he was quiet the most in terms of the order point. I thought that the point was lost on questions like his intercession and what he's doing as high priest. You guys should have just stayed on the issue of time, because God is a God of order from creation in seven days and everything on timing in prophecy etc etc etc....
@@justbrosing thanks for the advice, duly noted!
Peace,
This channel is really good, and greatly needed, because there are people saying some weird things about the 7th Day Adventist Church. It’s good to see what we really teach defended. Keep up the awesome work.❤
With that being said, I do disagree in regards to the feast days of GOD. I believe the annual Holy Convocations of GOD should still be observed. That they weren’t done away with or abolished at the death of Jesus.
I believe Holy Convocations aren’t ceremonial. There were ceremonies done on these set days of GOD (just like the 7th day Sabbath), but the actual days set aside by GOD is not ceremonial.
Coming to this conclusion was done by SDA reasoning points, Jesus, the apostles, the early Christian gentiles (after 70AD) custom was to observed the annual Holy days of GOD. It’ll be observed in the future with the Feast of Tabernacles (Zech.14)
I’ve studied the points you guys brought up , one of them was, the 10 Commandments were inside the Ark, and the commandments to observe the annual Holy days of GOD were on the side of the Ark.
For me, many laws written in the book by Moses are moral laws, and not ceremonial. The health laws for example. I think we should be careful of not throwing the baby (moral laws) out with the bath water (ceremonial laws).
Holy Convocations are moral.. again the proof that they were still being observed by the apostles and the early Christian church shows that.
Blessings! ❤
I'll be explaining this in my next sermon, but in short, Law of Moses is optional, good for reproof but not moral.
The torn veil just represented that that the earthly services were completed: The Cross/ atonement. The Holy Place/ atonement and the Most Holy Place/ atonement
In Colossians chapter 2, the reason why it was contrary to them was because it was unnatural for them to have to kill an animal. The reason it was a witness against them, was because they had to stand before the whole nation of Israel and show that they were sinful as they killed an animal.
Good point
What was contrary to us was the record of our sin.
2:04:59 Atonement for all time means no one has anything to repent. We're still called to repent, why? Because we wait for atonement in faith.
Also the one on the state of the dead.
How does a person transition from the Old Testament to the New and if that is the case what necessitates the transition?
The NT continually refers back to the OT. To properly understand the NT it is important to look back at what is being referenced through symbolism and type.
Great question though. I look forward to seeing this expanded upon.
Because they say the devil is doing their atonement, in the investigative judgment ..that's what creates everything different about SDA .and is blaspheming the holy spirit .if you actually understand what they're saying. they don't really understand that .and how serious that is!
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv jimbob, I already explained this. Stop calling Jesus the sin-goat. He's the high priest sending out sin.
@@FishermensCorner show me the verse in the Bible that the high priest is sending out sin be sure and not break the 9th commandment when you do
Please show where the Gentiles are keeping the Sabbath in the new covenant?
But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
{Acts 13:14}
And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought *that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath*
{Acts 13:42}
And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.
{Acts 13:44-45}
And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
{Acts 16:13}
And Paul, *as his manner was* went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
{Acts 17:2}
And he [Paul] reasoned in the synagogue *every* sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
{Acts 18:4}
Just give me a minute! I’m driving.
Psalms 111 : 7,8,10 the only Commandments God wrote down using His own hands is the ten Commandments. Concerning the 4th Commandment, there was many days set aside for their ceremonial days. The seventh Day Sabbath was not one of them. It is part of the 10 Commandments. The Bible say it will last forever. Hebrews 4 : 4, 7 - 11.
The scapegoat cannot be a sin offering because it doesn't follow the law of the sin offering. In the sin offering all the animals were slain and burned and the four was burned. Lev 4, 5, 6 ,7.
The Ten Commandments are exactly what they say “Commandments” not suggestions and they are clear and explicit in the wording so there is nothing left to speculation. The question is why are they twisted to suit your own beliefs? A lie is a lie, robbery is a sin, murder is wrong, God is to be worshiped, Saturday is the Seventh Day (Sabbath), Sunday is the sabbath of the pope. God said if you break one of them it’s as if you broke them all. Now a lot of you really don’t like this comment.
But if it doesn't have a bath tub, it's a restroom.😊
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Not at my house. I just carry the bathtub in when I need it.
That brother is blind if he can't see that the transfer of the blood represented also the transfer of sin.. That was clearly seen in the daily burnt offerings, PLUS EVERY SIN OFFERING OFFERED BYTHE PEOPLE. The prayer of faith transferred the sins from the sinner to the Lamb. The lamb died , bearing our sins , which are now transferred to the sanctuary, awaiting us on the Day of ATONEMENT. The cleansing of the sanctuary is Jesus forgiving the sins of all Believers. The final phase is Jesus walking out of the sanctuary both to Bless His people and to bind up Satan as the Scapegoat.
Give me the verse that says what you just wrote!
The people who Control this site , need to have a clear and pointed presentation on the SANCTUARY. IF YOU NEED HELP JUST ASK !!!!!!!!
Anytime that commandments contained in ordinances is discussed, it should also be explained in terms of the gospel first highlighted in Gen 3:15. The feasts and ordinances (law of Moses) was put in place because of sin (from the fall of our first parents and forward) noting that it (ordinances) were temporary until their fulfillment in the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ - at which time the 'ordinances were no longer necessary since Christ fullfilled all of the shadows of the ordinances. The ordinances simply foretold what Jesus would do - die for us in our place, be ressurected, and ascend to His Father in heaven. It should always be explained in the context of the gospel - the everlasting gospel.
Fulfillment is assumed; that's why Jesus needs to return.
My sword Bible works offline. The blue letter Bible doesn't.
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Regarding being grafted into Israel and therefore Gentiles should keep the Sabbath, circumcision, and the law; let’s see what the apostles said concerning this..
”forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:“
Acts 15:24
The apostles did not teach the observance of the law, this was considered “troubling” the Gentiles with a yoke that even their fathers could not bare..
Revelation 1 places Jesus in the Holy Place .The Book of Hebrews would be useless if Jesus had no heavenly priesthood .The Order of Melchizedek held three offices: Prophet , Priest and King. This fulfills the life Ministry of Jesus from earth to eternality.
Good point. He is the final OT prophet.
Azazel does not bear "the blame for the mistakes or crimes of others.* - *Azazel bears the full blame FOR HIS PART in all the sins and crimes of all humanity [Ezekiel 28:13-15; Isaiah 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28:15-17; cf. 1 Timothy 3:6].* - *Azazel himself bears the greatest part of the responsibility for the sins committed by all human beings. AND THAT IS WHY THE SINS ARE HEAPED ON HIS HEAD.* - *AZAZEL RIGHTFULLY DESERVES ALL THE GUILT that is placed on his head.* - *Satan is most assuredly NOT "an innocent scapegoat".*
*The scapegoat is not at all "allowed to escape"* That idea is erroneous. *For the goat for Azazel there is no escape at all.* The goat does not "escape". *The goat is condemned to isolation.* *This irreversible banishment into a desolate wilderness is a severe punishment, not an escape.* - *It is a decisive sentence.*
*However, the English word •"scapegoat", which is only short for •"escape goat", [1828 American Dictionary]* does illustrate the understanding that this goat is *NOT a sacrifice. [Lev.**16:10**]* - *This goat "escapes" from being sacrificed. That is what the English name for this goat refers to.*
Amazing!!! I always appreciate your comments!!!
Show me the scripture verses for what you just said!
@@JamieElison: James, you may ask the question a billion times.--- There is not one Bible text that even suggests that Jesus was ever banished.
According to your gospel, your jesus [Satan] did NOT die for you.* - *He did not atone for your sins at all.* -- *You are *without a mediator.* - *You have no advocate with the Father.* - *You have different jesus. Your jesus is the great dragon - that age-old serpent who was cast out of heaven that - that old serpent called the Devil and Satan* - *he deceived you the same way He deceived the angels, and they were cast out of heaven.* - *Your jesus [the Devil] is such a deceiver - he is cunning, shrewd, and subtle and he is the adversary - he is even accusing his own before the Father.* - *Woe to you for your jesus [Satan] knows that his time is short.*
*You have no Savior and you are without grace that is necessary so sinners can be forgiven and led to obedience to God through the power of the Holy Spirit and the assistance of Jesus Christ, who is our Savior, High Priest, and Mediator.* - *You believe in cheap grace.*
*[Emphasis for clarity]*
@@seekertruth3577 how did The Sins get ( in) Jesus Christ 1 Peter 2:24 and what did He do with them?. Who is 2nd Corinthians 5: 21?
@@seekertruth3577Jesus said "why hast thou forsaken me". There's your scripture verse for Jesus being banished.
Who is He who ascended..who also descended. Another verse
Response to the question concerning the sabbath and Israel..
Let’s not forget that the Sabbath was a covenant sign between Israel and God..
Let’s read :
Exodus 31:13-17 (NIV): "Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.'"
Ezekiel 20:12 (NIV): "Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy."
Like circumcision, the Sabbath was a specific sign that identified Israel as the people of God.. That is why they still keep it today..
Lastly, Exodus 16 states when the sabbath was made for man (Israel)
”See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. So the people rested on the seventh day.“
Exodus 16:29-30
Who are the Israel of God?
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
{Galatians 3:28-29}
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, *which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the spirit* and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
{Romans 2:28-29}
Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*
For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
[The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
{Ephesians 2:11-19}
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
{Acts 10:34-35}
Again...
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.
{Romans 2:10-11}
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:
*Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
{Romans 9:6-8}
Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
{Galatians 4:28-29}
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
upon *the Israel of God*
{Galatians 6:15-16}
And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
{Romans 11:23}
For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus*
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
{Galatians 3:26-27}
There is other scripture related to the 10 Commandments
I see a lot of Evangelical and Catholic dogma's coming from Sean. It's funny how at the GC they mentioned that this doctrine of Christ not actually performing the High Priest work in the heavenly sanctuary.
I just want to make sure I was clear. Jesus' sacrifice and offering at the cross plus he "is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." He was sitting down from ascension and is as the bible says "waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet." The Holy Spirit is working now. Christ is sitting letting His work at the cross perpetually intercede as the Holy Spirit he sends sanctifies us.
John 15:26 KJV
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.
Do you see Him doing something else?
If both goats represent Jesus, why do they have to cast lot? Think about that ....
I love these simple points. Nice. I'm going to play Azazel's Advocate, "don't you see, the Father and the Son we're wrestling over whom gets which goat..."
I think we also have to reconcile all scripture though. Why would the bible speak only of Jesus bearing the sins of the world? If there is a scripture with Satan bearing the sin that would be a strong point. We also have another way to look at why Satan is bound. Remember the Sacpegoat is free to roam the wilderness not bound:
Mark 3:24-27
24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 BUT NO ONE CAN ENTER A STRONG MAN'S HOUSE AND PLUNDER HIS GOODS, UNLESS HE FIRST BINDS THE STRONG MAN. THEN INDEED HE MAY PLUNDER HIS HOUSE.
Rev 20:2-3
2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and BOUND him for a thousand years, 3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, SO THAT HE MIGHT NOT DECEIVE THE NATIONS ANY LONGER, until the thousand years were ended.
There is a thick parallel there. I'm just telling you what I see when we look at all scripture. But I can understand your stance.
To establish which one SDA is going to call the devil! instead of Jesus Christ! Removing the sins on the cross Isaiah 43 verse 25 .God himself!
@@JamieElison SDA is the High Priest? Amazin' Jimbob
Today April the 23rd is (high holy Sabbath John 19:31)!!! how come SDA is not commemorating ( high holy Sabbath ) ? I thought you were Sabbath keepers.
THE CROSS ONLY PROVIDED THE BLOOD TO OPEN UP THE SERVICES IN THE HEAVENLY SANCTUARY!!An atonement is made at every point :CROSS- THE HOLY PLACE _THE MOST HOLY PLACE
An offering is sacrificed. The scapegoat is not sacrificed, so it's not an offering. Jesus was sacrificed.
Thats not true. Us is a particular group that Paul was talking about
Notice Sabbath days, with an “S“
These days had only one thing to do with the Seventh-Day sabbath. And it was to keep a holy day during the feast as they would keep the Seventh-Day sabbath.
Notice in the feast of unleavened bread that the first and last day of the seven day feast was to be kept holy. These would be known as sabbath days. Not to be confused with the Seventh-Day sabbath. They were nailed to the cross however; the sabbath of the Lord, the Seventh-Day, will never be nailed to the cross. Not one jot or title will pass from it.
The Feast of Unleavened Bread, also known as Chag HaMatztot, is a seven-day holiday that begins on the fifteenth day of the first month following Passover. The first and last days of the holiday are holy observances, and people remove leaven from their homes and diets for the entire week.
In Leviticus 23 we have a list of the appointed festivals and the 7th day sabbath is the first one followed by all the others … why we have to make this so difficult… the 7 day sabbath is just like the others … and let’s no even talk about the lunar calendar that the Jews kept which is a whole different complex subject
Get a Greek lexicon (Interlinear) translation.of Matthew 28:1 why is there an (s )on the Sabbath?
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv that’s a great catch not a lot of people know that. But it does make sense to have an S because it was the first day of unleavened bread and also the sabbath, and both days were to be cape like the sabbath
@@TDMayday but do you understand what that means Jesus rose on your Sabbath. the weekly ..that day was a Thursday .Jesus died on Preparation day on a Wednesday John 19:31 there are two sabbaths in the same week. That's why the (S).. today
..is the high holy Sabbath in Israel for about another 1 hours ,today is high holy Sabbath in Israel ,it is established by the moon .if Jesus would have died this year he would be rising on the 25th. in the year that He died is the same as 2023 this is established by the moon, Jesus rose on your Sabbath.
@@TDMayday yeah but do you realize what that means? the day before that was Nissan 14 Wednesday (preparation day.John 19:31 (so high holy Sabbath was on a Thursday Nissan 15 ..like it is today in Israel( Nissan 15). For about 1 more hour. Jesus rose on your Sabbath ! It is high holy Sabbath in Israel right now..because this is established by the moon. therefore Jesus if it were this year.. that He would have died ..Hewould rise in another another 2 days. which would be on the 25th.. but the year that He died was the same as( 2023 because that moves around like it wants to based on the moon.. Jesus rose on your Sabbath!
According to what I understand Jesus is not the strong man. He is the high priest. The strong man would be the time.
According to the interpretation of hebrew scripture
One must admit that John 19:28,30 *SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT AN ATONEMENT BEING FINISHED AT THE CROSS;* - *it simply says that Jesus cried,* - *“It is finished,”* - *Christ sacrificial atonement was certainly finished BUT His ministry as our high priest was yet to come.*
“But this man [Jesus], *after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,* sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected* for ever them that are sanctified.”* Heb. 10:12-14. cf. Ps 110:1,4; Mat. 22:44; Lk 20:43; Acts 7:49; 1 Cor 15:25-28. [Heb 5:6-10; Heb. 7:28; 2:16-18; Heb 9:8,15 the humanity of Christ is the foundation for His Priesthood].
*The above text [Heb. **10:12**-14] says* - *that Christ is at “the right hand of God”.*
*What is Christ doing at the right hand of God for the last 2000 years...?*
*“Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even *at the right hand of God, who also •MAKETH INTERCESSION [G1793] FOR US.”* Rom. 8:34
*Why would Christ be making intercessions anymore if the entire ATONEMENT PROCESS was FINISHED at the cross?* Isn’t the work of intercession not part of Christ’s work to save us?
*The KJV translates described atonement in the following manner:* atonement (71x), purge (7x), reconciliation (4x), reconcile (3x), forgive (3x), purge away (2x), pacify (2x), atonement...made (2x), merciful (2x), cleansed (1x), disannulled (1x), appease (1x), put off (1x), pardon (1x), pitch (1x). Peruse Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Hebrew Dictionary number H3722 kâphar and 3725. Additionally, numbers 2434, and 2643 in the Greek Dictionary.
*This word is often used in the Old Testament. The only place you’ll find the word “atonement,” in the King James Version, is in Romans 5:10. But, in Greek, it is the very common word ‘katallassō’ [G2644].* - *In this word, there’s no hint of making amends.* It means ‘reconciliation’. *Holman’s Bible dictionary defines this word as follows:* -- *Reconciliation* … specifically the reconciliation between God and humanity affected by the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. … The basic Greek word is usually translated as “to reconcile”. The basic meaning is to establish a friendship.
*Therefore Romans 5:10, in the NASB, reads:* “For if while we were enemies we were *reconciled [Greek katallassō G2644]* to God through the death of His Son.”
*This eschatology is one of the most misunderstood Biblical teachings* and has been the subject of scrutiny and criticism. While critics may pride themselves in their list of *seemingly* conclusive arguments, *the truth is they have no argument.* - If there is no atonement after Calvary,* - *then there is no need for a Sanctuary ministry by Christ in heaven. And there is no need for an investigative [pre-advent] judgment to conclude that atoning work.*
*We can CLEARLY see that the mediation of the Lord Jesus Christ is an atonement,* - *which means that He mediates for the forgiveness of our sins, being the Atoner who paid our debts on our behalf.* - *His mediation means that He says to the Father:* - *"Do not count their transgressions because I have carried their iniquity"* [Is.53:6]. *Thus, He stands as a Mediator between God and men; or rather, He is the only Mediator between God and men* [1 Tim 2:5]; *He fulfilled God’s Divine Justice and granted people the forgiveness of sins, by dying for them.*
So where are your sins at now? Are you sin free right now?
@@JamieElison: The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent: *’I HAVE BLOTTED OUT,* as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: RETURN UNTO ME; FOR I HAVE REDEEMED THEE.’ [Isaiah 44:22].
IF you do not confess and return how do you expect your sins to be blotted out?
*The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:* ‘Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, *when the times of refreshing shall come* from the presence of the Lord.’ [Acts 3:19].
*‘…and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.’* 1 John 1:7.
On the other hand, Catholic's beliefs are contrary to the scriptures - they believe in purgatory - your sins just never gets blotted out. The Catholic Church makes most of its money through the doctrine of Purgatory. Many wealthy people over the centuries have bequeathed their estates to the Pope in order to be released from Purgatory sooner, and many over the centuries have made large contributions to release their loved ones from Purgatory.
This wealth is reflected in the magnificent churches, golden altars, jeweled shrines, choice paintings, and exquisite sculptures that appeal to the love of beauty. The ear also is captivated. The music is unsurpassed. The rich notes of the deep-toned organ, blending with the melody of many voices as it swells through the lofty domes and pillared aisles of her grand cathedrals, cannot fail to impress the mind with awe and reverence.
This outward splendor and ceremony mock the longings of the sin-sick soul and are evidence of inward corruption.
Not only is the grace of God a FREE GIFT [Eph. 2:8] to anyone, but Christ Jesus PAID the full price for our sins. What did your Simon Magnus, the pagan sorcerer try do? He tried to BUY the gift of God WITH MONEY, and the apostle Peter sharply rebuked him.
There is not the slightest hint in the Bible that says we need another mediator other than Jesus Christ [1 Tim. 2:5]. AND it is very clear from God’s word that we have DIRECT access to God THROUGH Jesus Christ and the only one other that God who can forgive sins is Jesus Himself [Matt. 9:6].
According to Catholic dogma, Purgatory is a fiery furnace in the bowels of the earth . . . but their "good news" is that some souls can be released early by the suffrages of the "Church Militant."
*Purgatory is also found in the Latin Vulgate Version where the Greek word METANOEO (REPENT) is translated as PENANCE:*
But he (rich man) said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance (Saint Luke 16:3O, Douay-Rheims Version).
*"If we must choose between the Holy Scriptures of God, and the old errors of the church, we should reject the former."* Johnan Faber (a defender of the Papacy) cited in History of The Reformation, by Merle d'Aubinge, book 11, Chapter 5, Paragraph 9.
It was the selling of indulgences to free the souls in "Purgatory" that led Martin Luther to confront and expose Friar John Tetzel and his pick-pocket Purgatory. Orthodox Christians have never believed in the mythical Purgatory.
No wonder the Catholic Church is one of the richest, if not the richest institution in the world. The Vatican’s foundations were built on indulgences. *IF PURGATORY EXISTS, THEN JESUS’ SACRIFICE WAS ALL IN VAIN. PURGATORY IS A PAGAN INVENTION AND IS UNBIBLICAL.*
*Here is a quote from Canon XXX of the Council of Trent:*
‘If anyone says that after the reception of the grace of justification the guilt is so remitted and the debt of eternal punishment so blotted out to every repentant sinner, that no debt of temporal punishment remains to be discharged either in this world or in purgatory before the gates of heaven can be opened, let him be anathema (accursed).’ - Canon and Decrees of the Council of Trent, Canon (30) XXX.
Catholics who believe a purifying fire will purge away their sins are deluded victims of a fatal fabrication. The invention of a place for purification of sins called Purgatory is one of the most seductive attractions of the Roman Catholic religion.
Over the centuries billions of dollars have been paid to Roman Catholic priests to obtain relief from imaginary sufferings in Purgatory's fire. The Catholic clergy has always taught that the period of suffering in Purgatory can be shortened by purchasing indulgences and novenas, buying Mass cards and providing gifts of money. When a Catholic dies, money is extracted from mourning loved ones to shorten the deceased's punishment in Purgatory.
*The Council of Trent, by its Creed of Pius IV, makes it impossible for the Roman Catholic Church to change.* - *It added….twelve new articles to the Nicene Creed…..This Creed of Pius IV is a millstone around Rome’s neck. It binds the Roman Catholic Church forever to all its pagan errors.* - *It is its answer and challenge to the Reformation.*
@@JamieElison: I've noticed that my original post here has also been deleted. I'll repost it in part. Maybe some power to be flagged specific statements which were in no way offensive. I was merely quoting directly from that *universal* source.
*I have the assurance that my sins are blotted out:*
*The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:* ‘Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, *when the times of refreshing shall come* from the presence of the Lord.’ [Acts 3:19]
*‘…and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.’* 1 John 1:7.
*The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:*
*’I HAVE BLOTTED OUT,* as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: RETURN UNTO ME; FOR I HAVE REDEEMED THEE.’ [Isaiah 44:22].
*If you do not confess and return how do you expect your sins to be blotted out?*
*Our part is to accept His sacrifice, confess our sins, and to claim His power to walk in* - *“newness of life”* [Romans 6:4]
God is “not willing that any should perish,” but longs that “all should come to repentance [2 Peter 3:9].
So James - you don't need an MDiv degree to make sense of the above isn't it?
@@seekertruth3577 so when are you sin free? Ellen says you have to be sin free to be saved?. Where did the sins go ( in) Jesus Christ 1st Peter 2:24 and how did they get there?
@@JamieElison: James, you keep repeating yourself. It appears that you are reading without understanding. Now you mention Ellen White. Many have misquoted her by focusing on extracts only of her statements. Same with the Bible - one has to compare scripture with scripture or else you do violence to the writings. As you have noticed I quote only from the Bible, and I am not to discredit Ellen White for one moment. You need to consult with those who thoroughly study her writings.
*Many professed Christians focus on justification only* [professed faith in Jesus Christ], *and miss the important process of sanctification.* - *They profess to be justified and saved just because they 'believe' in Jesus, and yet continue to live sinful lives.*
*We are sanctified through the truth - the truth of God's Word in our lives, and those who are sanctified through the truth are living recommendations of its power, and representatives of their risen Lord, Jesus Christ.* - *The religion of Christ will refine the taste, sanctify the judgment, elevate, purify, and ennoble the soul, making the Christian more and more fit for the society.*
*'Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.'* John 17:17.
*'And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.'* John 17:19.
*'Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently.'* 1 Peter 1:22.
*'Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.'* 2 Corinthians 7:1.
In the above scriptures, we read about Bible sanctification. It is not merely a profession of faith, or external work. It is sanctification received through the channel of truth. *It is truth received in the heart, and practically carried out in our daily life, by obeying God, and not sinning wilfully.*
*There is no Bible sanctification for those who cast truth aside.* We must embrace *ALL* Bible truth. *There is enough light given in the word of God, so that none need err. Jesus, considered as a man, was perfect, yet He grew in grace.*
*‘And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.’* Luke 2:52.
*Even the most perfect Christian may increase continually in the knowledge and love of God.*
*Sanctification is not the work of a moment, an hour, or a day. It is a continual growth in grace, and a work that will continue our whole lives.* - *Not unless you believe in the unbiblical teaching of one saved always saved.*
Cheers James
The last guy is not Adventist at all
BROTHERS: You don't seem to know that the High priest went into the Most Holy Place THREE TIMES on the day of Atonement : 1) for himself and family, 2) the daily burnt offering and 3) offering of the blood of the Lord's Goat. Follow the process. The scapegoat is the one upon whom the sins that have been confessed and forgiven are placed upon , representing Satan in the End .
The Day of Atonement is indeed a unique process for the Hebrew cultic system. It is clear that the unique practices on the Day of Atonement are not for forgiveness of sin. In many ways this ceremony is in line with the ancient Hebraic understanding of mercy and justice. (Ps. 85:10, Deut. 32:4, Hos. 12:6) Those two must always balance. See the story of 2 Sam 14 for this to play out in court. The ruler is in some ways culpable for his mercy. This is also the story of Lev. 16. Forgiveness is in the blood and the goat for the Lord. (Heb. 9:22) However, the goat for Azazel is in contrast to the Lord and is viewed as the Lord's enemy in this regard. Hence the placement in the wilderness. (Lev. 17:7, Is. 34:13-14, Luke 11:24).
So, what is going on here? It appears that God is balancing the mercy and justice of His government. He is clearing everything contrary to His purpose out of His presents, i.e. the camp of Israel. One must understand that Christ is not the only bearer of sin. Unrepentant sinners bear sin. (Lev. 10:17, 20:20) Also, a false accuser will bear the sin of the accusation. (Deut. 19:15-21) Also, atonement can involve the justice carried out on a sinner. (Num. 25:13). So, either you let Christ take care of your sin or you bear the responsibility. Also, you bear responsibility if you bring sin into a community. Does this sound familiar? (Gen. 3)
It is clear that the references to Christ's atonement and forgiveness involves His sacrifice. He pleads His sacrifice and therefore can provide us His life. (Zech. 3, Heb. 9:26) This is beautiful truth and the reality of our assurance of Salvation.
Agreed!
Where are your sins being stacked up at right now..? What did Jesus do with the sins 1 Peter 2:24 on the cross?
Jesus bore our sins according to the Bible. Nowhere in the bible does it say Satan bore our sins. But I believe the thing that we have hung our hat on is this imagery in Revelation 20:1-3. Notice Satan is bound yet the Scapegoat is not. I see a stronger parallel here in Mark 3:23-27
23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 BUT NO ONE CAN ENTER A STRONG MAN'S HOUSE AND PLUNDER HIS GOODS, UNLESS HE FIRST BINDS THE STRONG MAN. THEN INDEED HE MAY PLUNDER HIS HOUSE.
Also if you read the details the Atonement isn't done for the people and priest until Lev 16:24 KJV when the burnt offering occurs.
Tell me your thoughts.
@@twocrackedeggs if Jesus Christ is both Goats ( then you have eliminated the investigative judgment)! and now you're finally Christian!. If you're believing what He did at the cross,( was finished!) If you're not ,,(you're not Christian!) That's what people will be judged on,,( is whether they had faith in what he did at the cross.!! Paid for the sins with his blood. And remove the sins.. Isaiah 43:25.. that's the second goat! all on the same day! (That set you free)!!!!!! otherwise you're never forgiven and you're never free!
God has never had any problems speaking to me through the king james Bible nor in the english language....
Jesus and the King James Bible is 2 of the most attacked on this Earth. And I'm sticking with them both.
Nothing wrong with the King James Version. Nothing wrong with using the Legacy Standard Bible. Nothing wrong with using the English Standard Version. All versions are good because they come from the Greek, Hebrew and little Aramaic manuscripts we have. The King James version Greek manuscripts are generally considered to be older manuscripts than the NASB manuscripts for example, but the word of God is found in either. Even the KJV translators believed that you can get the word of God from any translation.
I agree,
Omitted verses from modern-day corrupted bibles.
(As to think to have a works based gospel.)
• Matthew 17:21
• Matthew 18:11
• Matthew 23:14
• Mark 7:16
• Mark 9:44 and 9:46
• Mark 11:26
• Mark 15:28
• Mark 16:9-20
• Luke 17:36
• John 5:3-4
• Acts 8:37
• Acts 15:44
• Acts 24:6-8
• Acts 28:29
• Romans 16:24
• 1 John 5:7-8
Partially, and other omitted verses
• Matthew 20:16b
• Mark 6:11b
• Luke 4:8b
• Luke 9:55-56
• Luke 23:17 (preserved in Matthew 27:15 and as Mark 15:6)
• Acts 9:5-6
• Acts 13:42
• Acts 23:9b
• Titus 2:13b
@@larrybedouin2921 Funny thing is, the oldest biblical manuscripts we have more so point to (some of) these verses being interpolations. However, that's why we have textual criticism, to determine the best readings considering we have textual variants. I believe Mark 16:9-20 is original, but I can't deny the fact that the earliest dated Codex we have does not have the verse. The writings of the early Church Fathers help us here as well since these men quoted tons of scripture, so we can see if they quoted this reading or this one etc.
@@sttuffwithjoe4477
Oldest does not equal best. They're all copies. None are the autograph.
In my experience those who are critical of the KJV want bibles that will tickle their ears instead of exposing their fallen condition.
@@larrybedouin2921
Greetings Larry!
Another problem for modern translations:
Romans 2:12 KJV
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Romans 2:12 NASB
For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law;
Romans 2:12 “sinned under the law”?
The word used in TR is: ἐν (en G1722) which means in or in the law, not under.
Romans 6:14 “ye are not under the law but under grace”
Under= ὑπό (hypo G5259)
These two verses not translated properly are hardening people’s determination to not keep God’s commandments. They think that we are not under the law but under grace. The truth is:
Where there is no law, there is no transgression or sin.
Where there is no sin, grace is not imputed.
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Matthew 17:19-21 KJV
Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? [20] And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. [21] Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
NASB: 19Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, “Why could we not cast it out?” 20And He *said to them, “Because of your meager faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith [i]the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.
Verse 21: MISSING!
Again:
Mark 9:28-29 KJV
And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? [29] And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.
NASB: 28When He came into the house, His disciples began asking Him privately, “Why is it that we could not cast it out?” 29And He said to them, “This kind cannot come out by anything except prayer.”
Verse 29: Fasting is omitted.
When you read what Moses did, the "inauguration", you see he says "this is the Covenant".
This inauguration you say Jesus did, was done at the Last Supper, when Jesus says the same phrase "this is the New Covenant".
So nice try guys. The Bible clearly states Jesus "cleansed" our sins. Therefore, He sprinkled the blood on The Mercy Seat, immediately. Not in 1844.
Both goats were to be suitable as a sin offering. One reason the scape goat was specified as such is the solemnity of the ceremony. They were not to use the ceremony to cull an unworthy animal.
When sin is finally destroyed forever in the lake of fire every forgiven sin is placed on Satan and he burns for all of them. The wicked burn for their own sins.
What you said comes from Satan himself he likes to do your atonement as it says in Leviticus 16:10 technically you have given him permission to own you
Why do you have Christ death at 33 A.D.? He was baptized and anointed at around 30 years of age which would’ve been in 27 A.D. It was in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1-22.
Tiberius started his reign in 12 A.D. as co-Emperor with his stepfather Augustus Caesar.
When you use 33 A.D. the 70 week prophecy starting in 457 BC and the start of the 70th week starting in 27 A.D., you throw off the whole prophecy.
Christ died in 30 A.D.
Not according to US naval observatory calendars! And Luke 23:56 Mark 16:1 John 19:31 in Exodus 12.
@@JamieElison yeah well the US Naval calendar and all the calendars have a bunch of screwed updates. The 70 week prophecy tells us the exact dates according to the Bible.
@@TDMayday then why don't you show me where the ending date of the 69th week is? You're saying it starts in Ezra chapter 7: 9. And the Roman calendar didn't exist when this happened .so give me the ending.date(. to the day) on the 69 weeks because it tells you.
@@TDMayday you might want to look. The US naval observatory calendar. For the 26 through the year 34. For Passover week.. I was reading your other other stream. the s" does matter and their dates are perfect! You can just ask your phone for for that ..make sure you get the one that has all the right writing on it. It'll have a red line on the week that you're looking for. in the year 31! You got to remember I know you're interpretation of Daniel 9:27. You're telling me the 70th week is written in the Bible pertaining to what you say. Be sure and give me verses for that.
@@JamieElison
Evidence for this appears to be the ancient Roman historian Suetonius. To quote wikipedia's article on Tiberius:
However, according to Suetonius, after a two-year stint in Germania, which lasted from 10−12 AD, "Tiberius' returned and celebrated the triumph which he had postponed, accompanied also by his generals, for whom he had obtained the triumphal regalia. And before turning to enter the Capitol, he dismounted from his chariot and fell at the knees of his father, who was presiding over the ceremonies.” "Since the consuls caused a law to be passed soon after this that he should govern the provinces jointly with Augustus and hold the census with him, he set out for Illyricum on the conclusion of the lustral ceremonies."
Thus according to Suetonius, these ceremonies and the declaration of his "co-princeps" took place in the year 12 AD, after Tiberius return from Germania.
Wow it only took you guys 11 minutes to show your understanding of the scriptures, the only sacrifice that stopped was of animals for repentance, he was the ultimate sacrifice, wow Paul and all the other apostles kept the feast days ! You do recall the miracle of tongues correct on acts 2 ????? Yeah that was on the HOLYDAY Pentecost!! Please don’t be deceived by these men, also when your in obedience to keep Gods feast , no one especially of ppl in ignorance to this God given knowledge can say a absolute word to you for you obedience to Gods word.. I pray you gentleman come out that denomination I was born in it and it’s false… I pray you guys prepare for the Passover tonight and remove the leaven out of your homes… be blessed
You said you were commissioned to do this. show me the scripture verse that you were commissioned to do this. As SDA.
Jesus Christ as our High Priest offers expiation for our sins after the cross with His blood. See Heb 9:13-14 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
When Jesus died on the cross, He saved us from the penalty of sin. This is justification; this is our imputed righteousness. Jesus ministers on our behalf in the heavenly sanctuary, as our high priest to save us from the power of sin. This is sanctification; this is our imparted righteousness. [See: The Cross and The Sanctuary Part 2 Study Guide, Written by: David Shin. Also: He promised that He went to “prepare a place” for us (John 14:3).
What's He doing in the Heavenly Sanctuary ?Psalms 110?
Read Isiah 53.
The bible is written in black and White , but many of the stories and parables are better understand in 3D. But without the Holy Spirit we just can't see it .THE ULTIMATE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR SIN IS SATAN. Thus the sins are being shown being placed upon the scapegoat .
Our sins have gone ahead of us to the sanctuary. The same Jews that confessed their sins for 359 days of the year , HAD TO MEET ALL THEIR SINS AGAIN ON THE DAY OF ATONEMENT. Please tell Sean that he is wrong .
Hey Rodney, where is that verse that the sins went in the into the sanctuary by transfer of the sin debt or otherwise?
@@twocrackedeggs There is a restaurant chain The Cracked Egg. Now I know the end is near by you calling yourself Two cracked Eggs. If you knew the sanctuary and it's services , you would know that the life was in the blood. Thus by confessing our sins over the head of the lamb, our sins are transferred to the lamb. The lamb's life is taken in place our ours but the blood of the lamb is sprinkled on the veil inside the Holy Place, as a reminder that it was our sins that cause the death of the Lamb. All debts were not settled until the day of Atonement .
@@rodneysmith3578give me the verse in the Bible that says the (sins ever go into the sanctuary!!!!..)...(be sure and don't break the 9th commandment )!... because that's going to put you in Revelation 21:8!
@@rodneysmith3578 man…people come out swinging in the comments. How are you supposed to spread this last day message by trying to come for people? Remember the mission. It's not about me or you it's about Christ my brother.
So on to your source text. Lev 17:11 in context.
Leviticus 17:11 ESV
[11] For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.
By your logic it should read
Leviticus 17:11 ESV
[11] For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to DEFILE it yet it still somehow makes atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement and defilement by the life.
The problem with the logic is the animal is killed at the door sin-filled blood goes into the basin after the sin transfer to its head, right? At that point you believe your atonement happened. What you believe is that the blood now given for you and placed on the altar defiles but for some reason in your very own proof text God shows you that it atones which reestablishes your connection to God.
Atonement (dictionary definition)
1. Amends or reparation made for an injury or wrong; expiation.
2. An individual's reconciliation with God by means of repentance and confession of one's transgressions.
3. The reconciliation of God and humans brought about by the redemptive life and death of Jesus.
Reconciliation happens at the altar when blood is placed not sin transfer. Atonement can't mean sin still exists in one service but doesn't in another. The word should have consistency. Look throughout Leviticus.The blood is never doing what you say. It is always holy, cleansing and purifying even after a transfer of sin to the head of the animal. Also God did not leave a mystery as to what defiles the sanctuary as the Bible has made it plain. No where does it say the confessed sins defile the sanctuary. I can give you this based on what is in scripture: My sin is defiling the sanctuary up until I confess my sin. Remember the blood on the altar according to the Bible atones and reestablishes my connection with God. Now what defiles the sanctuary which is also the same as what profanes Gods name?
Numbers 19:20 NLT “But those who become defiled and do not purify themselves will be cut off from the community, for they have defiled the sanctuary of the Lord. Since the water of purification has not been sprinkled on them, they remain defiled.
Ezekiel 44:7 NLT You have brought uncircumcised foreigners into my sanctuary-people who have no heart for God. In this way, you defiled my Temple even as you offered me my food, the fat and blood of sacrifices. In addition to all your other detestable sins, you have broken my covenant.
Ezekiel 23:38 ESV For they have committed adultery, and blood is on their hands. With their idols they have committed adultery, and they have even offered up[e] to them for food the children whom they had borne to me. 38 Moreover, this they have done to me: they have defiled my sanctuary on the same day and profaned my Sabbaths.
More Defilement Texts Deuteronomy 12:5-6, Numbers 19:20, Leviticus 20:1-3, Leviticus 15:31, Ezekiel 44:7, 2 Chronicles 29:4-7, 2 Chronicles 36:14, Ezekiel 22:26, Ezekiel 23:38, Ezekiel 24:21, Ezekiel 36:17-36, Malachi 2:10-12, Jeremiah 7:30, Jeremiah 32:34
Take a look at the text as I have looked at yours and tell me if you see where I'm coming from.
@@rodneysmith3578 The sins are only sprinkled on the veil when the priest atones for himself or the collective congregation, not leaders or individuals. It doesn't even go into the holy place for individuals. The blood is placed on the Brazen Altar outside for atonement. However for the priest and congregation I will take it as a receipt of debt paid. The blood is a cleansing and purifying agent throughout Leviticus and when it was used in Egypt for Passover it didn't denote sin, but it meant safety and coverage by the blood. It can be a reminder to the priest maybe, but you need the Bible to back you up here for sin transfer. It is not there.
Jesus told His Disciples to keep the Passover Feast, until He comes again. This is the fulfillment of the feast of Unleavened Bread and first fruits, which are being kept every first day of the week, until He comes again. Jesus said, do this in memory of Me, until I come again...and I will be with you, until the end of age. I will never leave you or forsake you. He gave us The Lord's Supper, and His Holy Spirit, until He comes again.
The Eucharist is that gift, the treasure He gave His Church, until He comes again. That is why the Eucharist has been celebrated for 2000 years, since the beginning of the Church
He replaced it with the emblems of remembrance, the bread and the wine. The difference being that the Passover pointed forward to his sacrifice and the new covenant remembers it. The Passover itself requires a sacrifice and Jesus died once for all. Thusly, the Eucharist has been a perpetual heresy since the 300’s as it is continually presented as placing Christ continually onto the cross repeatedly and perpetually. I have news for you: He is risen. His one sacrifice is sufficient and requires no repetition.
The eucharist? Oh noes
@@russhay422 Jesus isn't re sacrificed during the Eucharist. This is misunderstanding and a lie that Protestants always say.
It's the Body and Blood that Jesus provides for us, because of His one sacrifice. Remember the loaves which Jesus multiplied, and there were left overs.
Just like the loaves were multiplied to provide for the whole congregation, so to Jesus provides His Body and Blood perpetually to those who come to Him, from the one sacrifice
@@russhay422 We also do need the repetition of the cleansing of our sins, because we continue to sin. Also, the Eucharist has been there from the beginning. Read St. Ignatius of Antioch 's writings from 70 AD. He was a disciple of John the Apostle, as well as many other early Christian writings from the 1st century
@@jfarrell2772 the RCC considers it a sacrifice when they perform the Mass. That’s why they need a priest to do it. No sacrifice, no priest.
The Law that was put on the side of the Arc was the Symbol of Jesus, who sits at the side, Right Hand, of the Father.
Yet, At the Same time, the commandments that are in the Arc, also speak of Jesus, who is The Ten Commandments in the flesh.
Jesus IS BOTH, The Book of the Law, and the Covenant, in the Flesh
The Mercy Seat covers moral law, hence mercy.
@@FishermensCornerJesus is also The Mercy Seat. He Is All in All
You all seems to love human reasoning... so look at this..."The sabbath was made for man" You guys only quote half the verse to show your point, but if you quote the whole verse which includes... "not man for the sabbath"
So in essent, Jesus is saying that man was not made for the sabbath. He was responding to the Jews accusing him of breaking the sabbath. Question to you is, if a toy car was made for me was I made for the toy car? Of cause not. If a real car comes along do I stick with the toy car? Of cause not. I go for what is better. The church has a better covenabmnt.
Who does Jesus Christ tell you in Matthew 24:15 (the abomination of desolation is)? in Daniel 9:27? The (abomination is a dreadful sin) the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13 right where you come from!!!! so you're saying Jesus is doing a dreadful sin in. Daniel 9::27 Daniel 9 is written (in chronological order ).when the 70th week is written its past 70 a.d.! After Titus! To say that's Jesus Christ .(is blaspheming Jesus Christ!) The (prince of the covenant) is Daniel 11:21 and 22 the guy that wins the kingdom. (by flattery's). it's the Antichrist at the end of Time! the guy you think is the Pope! The little Horn of Daniel 7! What's the agreement for ?...Revelation chapter 11 that (sanctuary) hasn't been built yet. The one in Daniel 11!!! why don't you look at the red heifer videos and understand what it's about!
You can't get to 1844 in the fall with 2300. The math don't let you do it you're starting out with the lie that created you right from the start. Show me how you're going to do that and be sure you're not breaking the 9th commandment when you do it.
Hey Jimbob, you talking about fall, like Oct 1844?
You're not admitting that the Devil comes back at the end of the thousand Years! carrying your sins .he's going to dump them right into your lap! when you're at the great white throne judgement. If you're going to make the devil be the sin bearer ..(who is Jesus Christ on cross.)! He doesn't go away.. he comes back to you. Not one verse you're saying that represents this,, is in the scripture.. you're inventing it! You can't find one scripture or the verse in the Bible ,,that says the devil is the second Goat of Leviticus 16:10! It's not there..(. it got created by your false prophet ).and she said that's Jesus Christ. Manuscript 112. Page 18 the first paragraph 1897. But would never admit it to anybody... but it's written down ..so what are you going to do about that? because when that happens... your investigative judgment goes out the door.. because Isaiah 43:25 would have happened... and there is no functioning heavenly sanctuary it would not be necessary.. as Hebrews 7:13 says. that's why you're not Christian! No Christian in the world has that theology that's blaspheming the holy Spirit!
The Adventist here don't know their bible very well its like they don't know what to say be more vocal
Adventist cultists are Bible illiterate and biblical fools. They parrot 🦜 a few proof texts and talking points in ignorance as they pompously proclaim they are in God’s only last days remnant church. They have been captured, deluded, and bewitched. What’s pathological is the sickening arrogance while being incredibly ignorant.
They have never known their Bible
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv I asked my Adventist health evangelist father why he was an Adventist. His reply was superficial, and lacking any depth or nuance. “ I’m an Adventist because Adventists keep all the commandments.”
It was sad and pathetic. Adventists sell an extremely simple message. If you want to be right with God you keep his commandments. If you say you love God you must keep his commandments. It’s a simple message for simple minded people.
Yeah but telling the truth to an SDA person is disrespectful.. coming from an SDA person!!. So if you're teaching a lie and someone is telling you the truth ..you consider it disrespectful! The second Goat of Leviticus 16:10.. if he's the devil.. as you say. ( your blaspheming the holy Spirit!)... Matthew 12:31 and 32 you're attributing to the holy Spirit what (Jesus Christ himself) does on the cross! 1 Peter 2:24 the sins are( in )Jesus Christ 1st Peter 2:24 they cannot be there ,if He's not both Goats!. The second Goat is there at the same time ( when the sins are removed).. it's the second (Goat that removes the sins)! the sins cannot be( in )Jesus Christ. Based upon your teaching... you have destroyed Jesus in his entirety ..and that's what creates your investigative judgment.. because Isaiah 43:25, cannot possibly happen.! no Christian in the world has that! They will not blaspheme the holy Spirit like that!!!!!. SDA does it with no conscience at all!
The idea that the Scapegoat is for Azazel, a demonic spirit, is the majority view among scholars today.
Notes from the NET Bible. From the Dallas Theological Seminary.
Azazel the Scapegoat.
Leviticus 16:8 tn Heb “and Aaron shall give lots on the two he-goats.” See the note on Lev 8:8 for the priestly casting of lots in Israel and the explanation in B. A. Levine, Leviticus (JPSTC), 102, on Lev 16:8-9. J. Milgrom, Leviticus (AB), 1:1019-20, suggests, however, that the expression here signifies that, the lots having been cast, the priest was to literally “place” (Heb “give”) the one marked “for the Lord” on the head of the goat to be sacrificed and the one marked “for Azazel” on the head of the one to be released in the wilderness in order to avoid confusing them later in the ritual sequence.
THE MOST COMMON VIEW AMONG SCHOLARS TODAY is that it is the proper name of a particular demon (perhaps even the Devil himself) associated with the wilderness desert regions. Levine has proposed that it may perhaps derive from a reduplication of the ז (zayin) in עֵז combined with אֵל (ʾel, “mighty”), meaning “mighty goat.” The final consonantal form of עֲזָאזֵל would have resulted from the inversion of the א (ʾalef) with the second ז. He makes the point that the close association between עֵז and שְׂעִירִים (sheʿirim), which seems to refer to “goat-demons” of the desert in Lev 17:7 (cf. Isa 13:21, etc.), should not be ignored in the derivation of Azazel, although the term ultimately became the name of “the demonic ruler of the wilderness.”
@@mikeforfar9493give me the verse in the Bible that says as (Azazel is the goat)? rather than a location. If Azazel is the devil.. there would not be any way the sins can be in Jesus Christ first Peter 2:24. What did Jesus do with those sins?
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv a location is still OUTSIDE THE SAVED COMMUNITY
@@mikeforfar9493 this is such a non-issue, but like Luke 4:14-30 ... his own people drove him out like a sin-goat.... they're the baddies.
@@FishermensCorner it's a non-issue you just said your sins are never forgiven when does Isaiah 43:25 happen
Show me the verse in the Bible that says their sins are in the blood? that are get taken into the sanctuary !be sure and print the verse! You're saying a dirty sins are going into the heavenly sanctuary and there is not a verse in the Bible that says their sins being taken into any sanctuary even on the Earth! Your blaspheming what Jesus Christ did at the cross he blotted them out Isaiah 43:25 present past and future otherwise you do not have job and Abraham in heaven! He paid it ahead! That never happens for you you're blaspheming Jesus Christ! No sins ever go into the sanctuary if you did that you would die! Your answer is Hebrews 7:13 He does nothing at the altar .and He didn't do it on the earth either! In a sanctuary!!!!! He was on the cross ..Jesus never went into the sanctuary carrying any sins! He's the first and the second Goat.
Hey Jimbob, please stop calling Jesus, our Passover Lamb, our High Priest, a sin-goat driven out and banished out of the community of the saved.
@@FishermensCorner when does Isaiah 43:25 happen for you?
@@JamieElison at Genesis 22:12 which is fulled in John 3:16.
@@FishermensCorner when did John 3:16 happen?
@@JamieElison John 3:16 happened at Genesis 22:12. I already told you, faith in fulfillment is the same.... we still are waiting for the Messiah....
The most holy place has got nothing to do with what Jesus is doing.. he's doing nothing with sin.. He said it's finished at the cross.. you're trying to drag dirty sins into a perfectly clean sanctuary .in heaven.. which does not happen.. your blaspheming Jesus Christ. You're saying his atonement at the cross was not good enough... And when He said it's finished.. you're saying it's not finished. He's doing nothing at the altar ..Hebrew 7:13. No sins went into the earthly sanctuary on the earth. and no sins are going in the heavenly sanctuary.. Isaiah 43:25 never happens for SDA that means they're never forgiving! that's why you have no salvation!
483 years from Ezra chapter 7 verse 9 . ends up in the last day of the year 26... On the Jewish calendar it's (4 years in 28 days from there to the Cross April 25th in the year 31...( that's 4 years and 28 days)!!!!! that's not in the middle of any seven !!!!!!!!...why ?because it doesn't belong there! you're misinterpreting the entire text!
Hey jimbob, what's up
Jim Bob is on vacation @@FishermensCorner
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv hi Jimbob2
I worked 13 hours on Saturday, April 20, 2024. At no time did the Holy Spirit convict me that I was sinning. The Holy Spirit convicts me often in regard to not loving perfectly as Jesus loves. I allow no Adventist pompous Pharisee to judge me in regard to food or drink or a festival or a new moon or Sabbath or what day I labor. Millions of Adventists have already joined James and Ellen in eternal hell. These blasphemous heretics are on their way to join the little flock in eternal regret.