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- Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 6 is devastating with the Night King ambushing Jon Snow and killing one of Daenerys Dragons #reaction #series #gameofthrones #houseofthedragon
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21:50
Jon: Hi Uncle Benjen. Bye Uncle Benjen.
5 hours in a make-up van for 50 seconds of screentime
Tyrion did nothing but fail since he met danny. The slave masters, the attack on castelry rock, trusting cersei (who tf would do that, him of all people?) and I'm aware they're ahead on Patreon so it's not a spoiler.
Surprised no one noticed how useless he's been these last 2 seasons.
The only thing he doesn't fail at is making lame dick jokes around varys.
Yes we all agree that latter tryion is poorly written. Don't see how that helps excuse Dany being poorly written tho
@@-tom-8720 everyone's written poorly in these seasons, but dany's reactions are solid. Any other king or queen would've done the same or worse.
Thank you, I don't get how it is not seen
D & D are dumb so they cannot write once bright characters like Tyrion.
@@Dan0oh92they literally have commented on Tyrion’s plans failing on multiple occasions, do either of you actually watch their reactions?
This was the episode that just showed the plot armour go off the rails. It felt like they focused waaay too much on the spectacle and forgot that they were making a Game of Thrones episode and not the next Avengers movie. I always liked that before in this show, the good guy isn't guaranteed to win - think back to Ned, Rob or Oberyn. If the odds aren't favourable, they'll probably die, and no plot armour or deus ex machina will swoop in to save them.
They could of made it work but they stopped caring imo. During the battle with Ramsey last season, they should of showed him getting downed and getting back up over and over. leaning into the plot armor because the LoRdOfLiGhT keeps bringing him back/protecting him. Every time he gets downed and gets up again, people from Ramsey's side switch etc. (que epic music). Prophecy and destiny could of been the perfect justification. Maybe in was implied, it probably was, but clearly it was done poorly if nobody picked up on it.
And yet all of you that agree with this are the same people mad that Barrisan got killed by 15+ harpies in a corridor. You wouldn't be claiming plot armor if he lived there though.
Yep, the dialogs and story was so stupid it hurts.
@@angelwkw3 People are mad that he got placed in that situation in the first place, not that he died from 15 stab wounds
@@angelwkw3Congrats the whole argument went right over your head
Why did Olympic gold medal recipient, the Night King, not just hit Drogon with the First Javelin?
Because plot
Also, why didn't the Night King didn't go for a second javelin immediately and killed at least 2 dragons? Was his javelin throw skill on cooldown? LMAO
Someone once wrote somewhere that it was the Night King's plan to kill Viserion, who is named after Dany's brother Viserys. Viserys committed treason against Dany, just as Viserion is now doing involuntarily.
It's bullshit in my opinion, but that's probably D&D's explanation.
I thought it was probably that Daenerys was riding Drogon and she could’ve dodge the spear. Viscerion and Rhaegal didn’t have riders so they were more vulnerable to attack.
I stopped trying to justify it long ago because it always gave me a headache...just enjoy the spectacle and try not to think about how none of it makes sense
The way Tyrion turned into a boring coward is so bad
How is not wanting to kill your siblings cowardice if that's the case we should be cheering Larry strong he burnt his dad and brother but we boo him for it so explain the difference
Tyrion: "radical idea: we do nothing."
If she agreed with Tyrion, they would still have 3 dragons
Love seeing McKay talk so much. What a rare treat lol
@@emmanuelokoye1575 yeah he always has goated opinions. I also love it when he just watches and soaks up everyone else's reactions to brutal scenes lol
That’s why I love him as a reactor that has watched game of thrones compared to the other one that always talks over and acts surprised even thought he’s seen it before
Just watch him on stuff he hasn’t watched he’s pretty cool, and also he’s pretty hot 😂😅
Not only Dany, but several characters have become unpleasant in these last 2 seasons. Simply because the 2 main showrunners rushed to finish the series quickly and did it in a crappy way, without considering the entire story built up until then. Everything only gets worse in season 8. Jon and Dany were many people's favorite characters, and both were harmed by a ridiculous script.
Benjen ex machina strikes again for the last time
Tyrion as joffrey’s hand: 👌
Tyrion as Daenerys’ hand: 🤦♂️
I wanted Olenna for Dany’s hand
I agreed with Daenarys attitude this episode. Everyone failing her and she has to think in the back of her mind Tyrion Lannister is just trying to ruin her, etc
Which he did really ruined her
@_Travey thank you so much for saying that.
She's the dumb one. He was right, If she had not gone, she would not have lost a dragon.
Who cares either way, all the characters were written to be naïve and plot driven with cringe jokes/statements at this point in the show, it’s not even worth arguing over
Leave George R.R. Martin alone, it’s Dumb & Dumber who are ruining the show 😤
Just as he (GRRM) left ASOIF fans hanging, correct? What's the deal with most of these new fiction authors not knowing how to finish their stories?
which one on the sofa is Dumb and which is Dumber? and what about the other 3?
@@BlackDeathThrash Dumb & Dumber are the producers of Game of Thrones, D. B. Weiss and Daniel Benioff because they ruined George R R Martin's story
@@TB-ng5pvLet’s not pretend that it’s not also George’s fault for failing to deliver Winds of Winter. Dude had years in between seasons to work on it but would rather spend his time doing interviews all while bitching about how D&D ruined his show. I mean what do you expect? They ran out of source material to adapt. Of course the dialogue and quality was going to take a nose dive.
@@TB-ng5pva story he never finished
is one of the episodes I hate the most. Unnecessary, incongruous
Why is everyone acting like Arya and Sansa should be on better terms? They NEVER had a good relationship. Arya couldn't stand Sansa's personality when they were younger. Even Ned had to remind her not to cause any in-fighting between her and Sansa.
Praise the hypersonic crows.
How people not hate GOT from this point on like nothing made sense and some people are still defending it. I hate the last two seasons of GOT so much BECAUSE i loved the story so much and watching it be butchered like this i cannot be civil about it
I enjoyed it very much. What I don't get is why Star Wars fan loves The Force Awakens it's just A New Hope redone 😂
Ok… so who do we blame? The directors that when it started wanted to make this series come to tv and Grrm said he would be done with both books by the time they hit season 6, or the actual writer that has spent his time in everything but game of thrones….(he is a writer for dark souls…. A huge game)?
@@Santiagoflo97 George is totally to blame like you said he was supposed to be done with at least Winds before season 6 yet Dan & Dave gets most of the blame
@@seanjames9073 don’t be agreeing with me.., I wanted to argue 😂😂😂
But thank you p, many people blame D and D and justified so but also Grrm is the one to actually blame
@@Santiagoflo97 I put all the blame on GRRM he broke his promise and now he's crapping on Ryan Condal as well. I'm a fan of his work not the man himself
Ya'll know uncle Benjin was waiting by the phone for 9 years for that HBO call.
RIP Viserion, that part still makes me sad.
I honestly don't understand the Dany hate, but it's not surprising either, since none of the Gek boys have ever really loved Dany in the show. They seem to love most of the Targs in HotD though, which is interesting.
Welp, only 7 episodes left.
That's because they don't have any preconceived notions about HOTD characters. It's obvious a lot of their opinions are from what they've read or heard about. Sad really.
So? the are not fanatics.
She’s not a good character. Crazy woman.
40:00 Much time passed but not enough. This episode is epic but full of nonense things: these are just few but i found many when i watched (and rewatched) the episode:
1 - The ice can't be that strong to sustain all undeads at the same time. It seems like less than a day have passed. Something between 12 and 20 hours. it's not enough
2 - Why don't they just break the ice around the rock instead of fighting?
3 - i don't know the raven's speed but let's say it's 150km/h (that is a lot). if the wall is 300 miles wide, then Dragonstone is around 1750 miles (2800 km) away from eastwatch. this means a raven would take 18 hourse to get there. Then we have the dragon that is slower than a bird, specially if they have to carry a person (not because of its weight but because a person can't fly a high speed or it would fall..it's hard to stay stable on the dragon). So let's say 60 km/h for Daenerys...it's 47 hours! so we have65 hours only of flights, not counting she had to find the exact spot when she arrive in the area, not counting they are a not at Eastwatch but further, not counting Gendry had to walk back
4 - Dragon's fire are not breaking the ice?
5 - When Benjen arrives he says "there's not time"...what? they had time to go both on the horse. Even if it would be still stupid, at least say "The horse is weak, he can't carry us both"
6 - But this could be even avoided if Jon would stay down until the undeads were gone away...just a couple of minutes to gather some strenghts back
But even with all (and more) of these stupid things happening....i loved this episode for the dialogues at beginning and when Daenerys arrives, with the fire and the MUSIC, is just epic..one of the best (short) moments of GoT
Fun fact they’re actually on that rock on the ice for about 4 days. Confirmed by the writers. It’s ridiculous and the show doesn’t make that clear, but yeah they’re out there for 4 days.
@@AdamsGoingGhost 4 days with that cold and nothing (or almost) to eat?
Its episodes like this where I think back to episode 1, Cersei telling Robert "We've been on the road for months"
Starting at season 5, nobody is on the road for months anymore. You can get from any two points in all of Westeros and beyond in the span of one episode, and never once is it implied that months have passed between episodes. Dragonstone to beyond the wall is 2/3's the length of Westeros, and Daenerys travels that in presumably a few hours. Unless dragons fly as fast as F-22 Raptors, its taking her weeks
Exactly, although it was 1 month they were on the road from kings landing to winterfell.
When this episode aired, a few weeks since the episode when Jon and Dany first met, several 'fan fiction' stories had been written which imagined, for instance, both of them riding the dragons to get to see the Wall, from Dragonstone. And everyone in those forums had a very accurate idea of how long it would take (about 3 or 4 days). So you have a big portion of the fandom (I don't say a majority, but many people, nevertheless) who know Westeros better than the show writers, and it really was a big disappointment to get to this episode and its plot. Really, and the rest of the show goes just worse and worse.
The dragons not being able to go beyond the wall was mentioned in the first episode of House of the dragon Season 2 by Cregan stark.
The beginning of the glaringly obvious horrific writing... so many "WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?" moments... in season 1 we have a whyt at castle black, simply a body turned intot a whyt (the one john saves commander mormont from), yet now we have forgotten that we can just take any dead body near the wall? Next, extra 1 2 3 4 dies early on in the expedition, why not take their body home? Next, why would it matter if cersei cares about this or not? GO and wipe her out already, then deal with this.... Gendry able to run back the entire journey they just did, and a raven fly at the speed of light to get to dragonstone and dany to get there all in one day/night... John snow, plot armor to fuck, falls in ice cold sub zero water and survives, benjen ex machina to the rescue can just sail through 1000s of whites with his flail to save the day. Oh but theres no time for him to climb on the horse. Thats not even mentioning the waste of time they are doing with arya/sansa's characters meanwhile... URGHHH
Daenerys' attitude in this episode is completely understandable,Tyrion does NOTHING,He is useless
They all do nothing.
Comment section is bitter af lol.
I personally did not like the whole arya-sansa-baelish parts.
its awful they ruined sansa’s character
i think they purposely argue for Littlefinger to show his true colors to Sansa especially, he creates chaos between sisters 😅
@@shrutitomar am I the only one who doesn't get why Arya is upset?
She's like "how could you possibly sign this letter that the Queen forced you to write, I would have died rather than betray my family", meanwhile she was serving Tywin his wine and mutton and genuinely enjoying his company, all while having a magical assassin owe her three assassinations while she's literally RIGHT NEXT TO TYWIN. She had a chance to take out the man who was waging war against her brother and instead she was chatting with him about Targaryen history.
They're great scenes, don't get me wrong, but I think Sansa did less betrayal than Arya, if nothing else. 🥴
@@andrewguenther988Their "feud" was all a ploy, though.
@@andrewguenther988 i always thought Arya did it in case littlefinger was hidding and listening, but since they never show it it really looks so ooc and forced lol
like, how does anyone know to say , is that an undead bear? specifically... like what ?🙄there are so many other things as well, in every episode of every show they've watched... oh god 🙄i feel bad for carter who wants to watch it earnestly and just spoils it for him
Seriously, that dude has obviously seen it before
And how did they know about the dragon killed by the spear and its trasformation? And what about uncle Benjen's arrive? The obviously have seen it before
@@aeproductionstm1150 they just knew that Jon obviously wasn't gonna die, so how was he gonna get out?
Exactly can we just have a reaction with just cannon and Carter… the other three have already seen this and two of them keep spoiling this reaction videos…(not you McKay you’re cool as fuck )😂😂😂
5:38 it's absolutely criminal that they cut "Brienne of f***ing Tarth"
Not the comments trying to gaslight you guys into believing you are misinterpreting what you are seeing on screen 😭 Let them think their thoughts.
They clearly are
Think you need to look up the term gaslighting and try to understand it better. I feel like it's been overused lately.
@@nobu3358 I actually agree it is overused but I meant what I said. The term comes from the 1944 movie Gaslight. I know a lot about the actual history of it. Enough with your bitterness
@@vetabeta9890 actually no. This is a political show and questioning characters in power or in general is very natural.
@@LauraFloraz logical questioning =/ flawed logic. You don’t have to like any character, for any reason, but if you give a reason that makes no sense rather than just conceding you don’t like them don’t cry about complaints.
Reactors: I like Arya, Brienne, Margaery, Olenna, Ygritte, Osha, Lyanna, Shireen etc..
Watchers: Cool.
Reactors: But I don't like Daenaerys.
Watchers: MISOGYNY!!!!
@@jaradroland6762 👏 👏 👏
lol true, i don't get why people get super mad for not liking daenerys at some point, the writters did her like that unfortunately so
They can’t actually provide an argument against what they’re saying so they resort to calling them woman haters
Thank you! Welcome to dealing with Dany stans. They’re so ridiculous they actually make me hate her character now. Every criticism of Dany’s actions, no matter how valid, is like a personal affront to them. 🙄
Nobody thinks that not liking Daenerys is misogynistic 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Poor Carter looks so depressed, at times, in these later GoT reactions 😔. I get that the last couple of seasons were weak, compared to what came before, but you have to just enjoy it for what it is. It's just a TV show and, as a whole, still one of the best that's ever been made.
He looks drained lol I don't think he's enjoying it anymore, despite what he says
Agree with you completely. The last 2 seasons doesn't take away the overall storytelling and acting of the entire show. It's still my favorite show of all time.
How the heck do you go about enjoying utter shite? Can one learn this power?
It went from top 3 to top 25
not to be an ass, but you absolutely don't have to enjoy it for what it is lol the enjoyment I got from these later seasons were to laugh at how bad it was and I don't think this is what you mean haha
Could the night king and the other white walkers throw spears towards the men on the hill? Nah let's not. The dragons could melt the ice so no wights could attack Jon. Jon was under water long enough for the whole army to walk away. This is so stupid.
The Night King should have competed in the Olympics! Viserion's death made me really sad, especially because in the books the dragons have more personality and he was known as the sweetest of Dany's dragons... at least prior to being locked up. The dragons also had more color to them. Viserion was like a cream and gold and Rhaegal was green.
“How many men died for Mance’s pride” one of his last lines is “fuck my pride” I swear the writers didn’t watch their own show
REMEMBER WHAT TYRION SAID. We will go with 3 dragons and our armies. If anyone touches you kL will burn down to its foundation stones. Y’all keep lying on dany. She’s not crazy. She’s fed up
And that was a dumb line. Anyone that burns down all of the innocent civilians BEFORE going after the evil dictator is actually insane
She is crazy. No one who is sane will burn an entire city - a city her ancestors dedicated their life to build just for her to burn it for no reason. Cersei surrendered and she still did that!!
I love the respawning red shirts all throughout the expedition so much 😂😂😂
I’m going to stop watching yall if you keep completely missing the mark with Daenerys. You don’t give any of the male characters crap when they’re writing is going downhill but god forbid Dany actually have reasonings for her mistrust.
They just don't like Daenerys, calm down lol.
They compliment any other female character, u sound delusional
This is a reach
@@AdamsGoingGhostno it’s not they‘re Jon Snow dickriders as usual
Stop whining and stop watching, then. You will never make them like Dany, even if you love her.
Same
House of the Dragon explains the wall. No mythical or magical being can cross it. Not undead or dragon. But Dumb and Dunce dont care and are shitty writers. You'll start seeing all the plot armor flaws because they just want to finish the series. George RR Martin hasn't been involved since season 5.
"Dany is just so unlikable"
Yeah, unlike a lot of watchers I never liked Dany. I always found her whiny and entitled lol.
Can I ask what are your favorite characters?
@@Santiagoflo97 Olenna and Varys are probably my top two.
@@andrewguenther988 okay, fuck you, I love those characters so you may be right 😂😂😂
I wanted to talk crap since people blame Dany about being entitled but literally every character is entitled on this show, they talk about family, last names, history, heritage…. Everyone has killed people, but when it comes to Dany she’s the only terrible one… people should see everyone’s kill count before the kings landing fuckery on 8x5 and everyone is sooo much higher than Dany, but they just overlook that
I wonder if you guys would love Daenerys if she was a man, like Daemon 🤔
You can talk shit about her in the last season, because writters did ruin her on purpose so we can hate her (No one really does lol) but at this point of the show she is doing the most logical things, her dragon, her child, just died because of Jon fault
Well, canon shared his opinion and it made me confident enough to share mine, cannon's pretty annoying, ngl. i mean no offence but he just doesn't understand the show anymore. can't if he did at all. the rest of you seem like watching the show for the story and he's watching it out of obligation or something. i could be wrong, maybe but that's just what i felt.
as for the show, i don't understand you all. I don't know if y'all trying be positive or what but the season has turned crap from the moment highgarden fell. even before for so many characters, Tyrion among them the most. either, you guys love a bit of action or you guys are really nice people. there are tons of things that doesn't make sense at all. none of it does. it is not Game of thrones anymore. it's dumb and dumber season 3.
I don’t comment on videos often but just wanted to say I really enjoy your reactions and have been really loving rewatching this show w/you all 😊
People watch reactions and then want people to react exactly the way they want.. I’ll never understand it lol.
Let's just keep in mind that it's not George Martin's writing so don't shame our old man. He will NOT write this kind of bullshit like this episode I promise you 😂 Still waiting for book 6th.
please guys you are my favourite reaction channel and we know you to be true and give your honest reactions
so don't change that cuz it looks like you already know what's happening
I honestly have no idea why you guys would think Daenerys is "unlikable" when you guys have been rooting for her to get to Kings landing since season 1. She literally has done more than any other character in this show for the people. It not until she gets to Kings Landing when people start to gaslight and manipulate her every action and move.
@@Dan0oh92 are we watching the same reaction channel? I think of all the reactors I've seen, this group has been the most anti-Dany from the very beginning.
They’ve just written her dialogue very poorly and D&D clearly wanted to make her less likeable than she was before she got to Westeros. I’ve never been a big fan of her story to be honest but it’s a night and day difference how much less I enjoy her presence on screen in the last couple seasons compared to earlier on.
She sometimes slips into the same habits as Viserys of acting like she deserves things because of who she is. Unlike Viserys she usually backs it up, but one example of her being unreasonable is questioning the merchant in Qarth for not instantly giving her a fleet because she’s the “rightful ruler of Westeros”. I like her until S7 but I can understand not being the biggest fan during the seasons the characters gets little to work with (*cough* Meereen)
@@andrewguenther988clearly I have if I am even mentioning it on a season 7 episode.
She is doing the wrong things which makes her unlikable. That was quite literally the intention of the showrunners because the plan was to turn her into the mad queen, the execution was totally poor. From dialogue, to some character choices and attitude it just doesn't make sense from season 6 onwards even worst in season 7 and 8
Ngl I’ve never been a big Dany fan myself lmao so I actually agree
@@AshleyGarcia-ck2ki "I deserve" "it belongs to me" "it's mine" "I want" 🥴
@@andrewguenther988 I mean to be fair that’s how everyone in the show acts, everyone thinks THEY have a better claim than the other person. I just have never cared for her character idk why.
@@AshleyGarcia-ck2ki I know, but to me Dany's always seemed the whiniest.
Joffrey - my father was the king and I am his presumptive heir
Stannis - I am the king's eldest brother and his children are bastards
Renly - I am the king's youngest brother but am more well-liked than my eldest brother (and also the king's children are bastards)
Robb & the Greyjoys - want their own kingdoms and freedom from the Iron Throne
Dany - left Westeros as a baby, never knew the country, never knew the people there, was essentially locked away for most of her life, yet believes she needs to "take back her throne" as if it was ever hers to begin with
Hers just feels more entitled because everyone else's entitlement at least stems from an arguable claim. Her claim rests solely on her name; everyone else is at least connected to their country and the throne in some cognizable way.
@@andrewguenther988we get it you don’t like daenerys move on😂
@@haruu4342 no.
Jackson is right,dragons DO NOT cross the wall, Queen Alyssane Targeryen tried Go beyond the wall several times and silverwing refused
@@Redqueenjj yes, the wall is built upon/with powerful magic
But it's never made clear whether they can't cross it or they don't want to cross it for some reason
@@ClaudiaGonzalez-mg4xf This is true, although I think I remember Benjen telling someone (Bran?) about the wall having ancient magic that prevents the dead from crossing it. They don't mention dragons but then again exposition in the latter half of this show drops a lot of things that are important to mention.
Nah the dragon didn’t wanna cross because the reasoning wasn’t there. Dragons have their own minds. A Targaryen was in trouble, his dragon was gonna come for him. The rest tho? Probably bad writing lol
@@ClaudiaGonzalez-mg4xfits more of the former. They cant.
26:24 Night King: "I summon my Blue Eyes White Dragon!!"
The writing for Daenerys this season is utter shit. Going to the north to get a walker to show to cersei is dumb af 😂
Yall talk so much crap about Daenarys but fail to see her POV. Tyrion keeps failing her left and right and yall don't see her frustration. Like not even a little bit. Smh
Yeah, it's really stupid.
except he was right, the whole reason for the wall coming down is because danearys went to the rescue
And it was Tyrion's idea to get the walker in the first, and still failed in the grand scheme of things because Cercei still said no.
SO in conclusion,TYRION sacrificed a DRAGON, for Jaime Lanister, the only person who showed up to help.
p.s. i'm not spoiling, they're already ahead.
Every character became so dumb the minute they ran out of the source material. But it especially shows on supposedly intelligent characters like Tyrion, LittleFinger, Varys etc... That poor Tyrion was so useless after season 6
Remember don’t blame Tyrion blame dnd Tyrion was full retard this season which is so unlike him
**WAYS TO FIX THE CHEESE IN THIS EP SO IT COULD BE A 9.9:**
1. Have one more npc brotherhood warrior struggling under wights that Jon was trying to save as a reason why he kept fighting instead of getting on drogon at the end, would be in character for Jon to still prioritise everyones life no matter their npc’ness, or have it be one of the main guys that die so it feels like the stakes are back as well and the plot armor is gone
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2. Show the night king taking time to make the spear initially which gives dragons enough time to do damage and be epic, and gives drogon time to be on the ground while they are climbing on him
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3. Instead of the random massive chains being the ropes that pulled Viserion out, make it so the ropes are made of the undead themselves/their bones/clothes etc, (bit out there still but for sure more sense and creepier than chains as it shos the walkers are resourceful also) OR just not have Viserion sink and show some more sad dying shots etc. like wights surrounding him and stabbing away the wound, he’s still trying to burn them away as he dies but eventually his flame is snuffed out.
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4. More accurately convey the time passing that they were stuck on that rock through the night and day, like some dialogue about how they’ve not eaten, or they’ve run out of food (maybe a joke from Tormund/Hound bout eating the wight idk just ideas to make this specific information be less obvious exposition, doesn’t need to be this). Anyway, this is something that should be clearer because It’s not unbelievable to fly to Dragonstone and back in 24 hours (context if you look at westeros as the UK it takes a plane just over 2 hours to fly from Aberdeen to London aka north to south)
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5. Have Benjen come and help gendry straight away to get to the wall faster on his horse, and reveal he’s been following them in secret to look out for them, then it‘s less surprising and more euphoric why he comes back to help jon from the water and escape in the end, and also removes the cheese of gendry full on sprinting the whole way. Could maybe show some shots about someone following them through that start of the ep but not revealing who etc.
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6. When they capture the wight and Jon kills the walker, don’t have all but one of them die, show majority of them dying and good few still left that they then beat, makes it easier to connect the dots that this walker didn’t turn those ones and saves viewer frustration, especially when Jorah confirms it with Jon later anyway
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7. The bear scene was cool but considering how much budget went into it and how they effectively had to choose between the dragons and ghost etc, would rather have had ghost along for the ride - but that’s just my personal opinion - it’s just a nitpick nothing serious
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8. SUMMARY - I want to say that I am not a writer, I don’t have to deal with pressures from studios, scheduling, budgets, unexpected accidents or errors/delays that happen in the moment maybe making a scene not possible to be filmed in time as it was envisioned etc., so this may have been easier for me to see, especially as I’m just nitpicking in hindsight and not writing the full season from scratch. Cause things a lot of the time make sense on paper but not in practice, as seen through the whole last seasons.
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9. The points above still keep the narrative exactly as it is within the 7 ep pacing, and are just little things that I at least believe were very possible to have been included to make the ep better - music, acting, VFX, SFX, cinematography still were all perfect as usual from GOT, the crew for this and HOTD deserve more recognition.
Those are good ideas. A cost-cutting measure would be not have Viserion falling into the water. That's one less headache. And how about the WWs are killed. But since he's dead, Thoros turn into one. So they have their dead man to show Cersei.
Daenerys is pretty unlikeable?? Rip for me and all the people who can actually enjoy the best character in the show.
They can NEVER make me hate daenarys
Based on what she does next season, she is a GARBAGE character
@@beshraeelouder for the ppl in the back
Weird way to spell Tyrion
The guy in the middle ALWAYS says what's going to happen right before it happens, in a slightly different way, and I just know he already knows and is saying it to look cool or intelligent or something good for the camera. like comeon
Ah yes the episode with the magic chains that the white walkers managed to get and how they drag it out of water despite being allergic to water 🔥🔥🔥
He's right, both in the books and HOTD they mention dragons won't fly over the wall. Not sure if its a "can't fly over" or "wont fly over". They mentioned it very briefly in HOTD S2 when Jace and Cregan are speaking at the wall. It was Queen Alyssane and Silverwing; the same dragon we see Ulf claim later in HOTD S2. They definitely fumbled the magical aspects of GOT world in the show, it's very present in the books and makes the overall story so captivating. Like a puzzle that you're trying to figure out.
Yeah, giving the NK a free dragon to break the Wall with was the most stupidest idea Dumb and Dumber came up with.
Literally if they hadn't gone to the North of the Wall to grab a stupid walker for Cercei, who couldn't care less about it, none of this would have happened.
The only way it could is if the NK would be a Green Seer like Bran. This is something they should have explored. Like have him influence Dany(to go there) or Tyrion(to get a wight). Or have him just know Dany is gonna go beyond the wall.
one of the worst and most unlikely episodes of got
Cant wait to reexperience the episodes going forward
The boys are really starting to see the decline in writing now.
Everyone hating on their reactions and claiming they’ve already seen it seems to forget just how many theories were flying thick and fast by this stage when we all watched it live. They’re bound to get a lot of things right. They’re still missing a lot of things too.
The biggest issue with the last couple of seasons is D&D seemed to just run on a mixture of fam service and trying to subvert expectations, just because, and it didn’t work. Sooo much plot armour to keep certain characters alive despite stupid decisions that would’ve got other characters killed off.
There’s still good moments here y there, but it’s definitely declined already by the time you get here.
This is not George RR's fault but mainly an example of the terrible writing of Benioff and Weiss after deciding to finish the show quickly and betraying the character of Daenerys. Just the worst. And get ready for the ending 😭
I still think they should have let the giants they showcased earlier in the season be the ones that throw the projectiles at the dragons and not the nightking. This feat of superhuman strength only add to the stupidity of the final scene of said nightking in 8x3.
Instead of the giants, the budget went to a polar bear zombie because that is what D&D said they wanted since the beginning. Its so stupid they shoehorned this in. Makes you question, where are all the other zombie animals (mainly dogs & wolves)...
But hey, at least we get to see 1 zombie giant in action... only for it to be killed in a 1 of many cringe worthy moments in 8x3 :D
Every questionable decision from now on happens only because D&D wanted to get rid fast of Game of Thrones. Back then, they were invited to direct a new trilogy of Star Wars. However they massively screwed up with GoT and the whole thing was called off. But both George Martin AND HBO wanted to have two more seasons to finish the series properly. Dragons refused to fly over the wall before, so there is no way Daenerys would be able to bring her both dragons there.
Jon's plot armor didn't even have to be that thick, Benjen could have showed up whenever they came north. I think they put Jon in that situation so they could kill Benjen off in as little screen time as possible. If he showed up when the group was still together there would have had to be at least several lines to explain he's Jon's uncle and what happened to him and he wouldn't have had the means to make them all leave quickly and not ask questions like he could to Jon alone by giving him his horse.
Guys don't be too harsh on them in comments. They don't like Daenerys anymore because narration itself makes them not to like her.
For example fact that she burnt Tarlly, if it was shoot as something cool without make Tarlly went like a badass and without scene with crying son, they would like Dany. Also Tyrion is beloved character who was almost always right about anything and when Tyrion says something she is doing is wrong, it means most of audience gonna think like Tyrion.
That's called character assassination. That's why later seasons failed, because writers started to show you who is bad and who is good while George Martin always gave you space to decide yourself
How they chained them - they sunk down and tied the dragon on. Then climbed back up the chains/or just held on- even more likely the night king just left them. The chains are from the giants that lived in the lands.
“You coulda just hoped on” is one of the biggest stupid parts of seasons 7-8 🤣but they had to have a way to end uncle Bs arc…
Everyone: "yeah the show is okay, could be better, I think it's still fine though"
Carter: *depressed disassociation*
Brother looks like he just got home from Vietnam
Oh god this episode. Fun to watch but just take 2 minutes to think about it all and yeah.. Bloody hell what a mess.
Dany is meh. The commenters just need to get over it. She’s not a likable character.
13:20 its funny you breaking down the time it would take the raven to reach Dany. Literally shows the writers messed up big time
"Daenerys is so unlikeable"
Coming from people who saw tywin as the goat, which was more intimidating and distrustful than Daenerys
Tywin is the definition of power even not being king, he is a really interesting and likeable character.
As Tywin said, any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king (basically Daenerys lol)
Likable character and likable person are not the same thing
Carter, you deserve quality writing from beginning to end: The Wire or The Sopranos.
I've never seen so many conveniences in one episode.
wait, dany just risked everything to save people she owes nothing to, lost a dragon in the process because of their fave’s stupidity, did NOT blame him, and even pledged to fight for him without asking something in return and they STILL have something against her? oh, we’re just going downhill from here.
How does she owe nothing to people she wants to subjugate. According to her she is the queen and they are her subjects. Therefore she owes them everything. Or does she care about people at all? Maybe not, maybe it’s about what “saving people” does for her image and armies.
she's a woman
@@LauraFloraz but they weren’t her people yet. she didn’t need to care about them but she still did, just like she cared for everyone who needed her during her entire arc. that is what daenerys is about.
@@LauraFloraz Agreeing with you. And another point the person said "without asking something in return" = "Bend the knee and I rulle y'all"
@@peuzip Daenerys literally didnt want to help them, not if Jon bend the knee and some of them trying to convince her that the Long NIght would destroy Westeros and ruling wouldnt make sense.
Daenerys wasn't benevolent and altruist.
Post show reaction: how did they fuck this up so badly?
Such a stupid episode. Game of Thrones died for me a while back in season five (episode 5x6 specifically), but this episode was THE straw that broke the camel’s back. To think that there are season 8 episodes that top this.
Are they ever gonna watch the histories and lore? Cause that is interesting
one of the worst episodes of the whole series
The “Dany” takes me out every time 😭
And it's in this episode that Got starts to get HORRIBLE
I'd say it started when Arya got stabbed and had her guts twisted with a knife then proceeded to jump in to sewer water and parkour the next day like nothing ever happened.
I even go back way earlier, in season five episode six. The CW episode where the sand snakes fight Jaime Lannister.
@@cromperer Yes, it was so pathetic but from this episode 7x6 onwards it really starts to get absurd,Because from now on it's IN EVERY EPISODE
@@Seanopp7 Yes, and in the book the Dorne core is so good and interesting and in the series they made that joke
@@cromperer*gets gut stabbed* *cartwheels away*
on second watch dany is even more of a prick lmaooo
Best character left is Jamie until…
This episode made no sense. Why would Jon keep fighting those walkers when everyone was on the dragon and those wights next to it wouldn’t have even affected Drogon? Viserion didn’t need to die. Jon kinda caused all this death and I’m confused why. Now the Night King has a leg up and for what? He could have hopped on and left with Daenerys instead of being fake brave 💀💀 RIP Viserion, Thoros AND Benjen. And on top of that, Arya blaming Sansa for Ned’s death AND threatening to kill her? They’re sisters. I get being angry, but at the end of the day they’re Starks. Ned would have never wanted this infighting. And Arya would never hurt Sansa in the books?! I’m lost
The dany stans are crying in the comments😭 but don’t let them try to gaslight you into changing your opinion or interpretation…you’re entitled to your own 🙏
I just wonder why did they go so deep in north to catch a white walker. They established that very early in the show that who dies in north, wakes up as walker so they could have just put a dead body in a cage and it would have woken up as a walker, this whole quest wasn't necessary.
Seasons 1 thru 7 Daenerys I loved. I liked that she risked everything and went beyond the Wall to save the men. It showed her compassion and was the reason Jon bent the knee. It wasn’t until season 8 that I couldn’t stand Daenerys.
Since season 5 Dany has been rather obnoxious
26:53 - yeah I skip over the arya/sansa parts it's like the writers just making up drama as filler to get to *spoiler* cause it doesn't make sense in regard to their characters. It felt completely out of character and forced to me.
Like any Tv series, it’s never going to be perfect and there’s always going to be plot armour and convenient time skips, i love it anyway because it’s a fantasy tv series, not meant to be real, just entertaining 😊
Lots of memberberries this episode, mostly when they were walking in the snow.
Like Gendry bringing up being given to Melisandre to stir up conflict that ends immediately.
The writing has been going downhill this whole season. This episode is the peak. Only just as bad from here
I think there's one major spoiler still coming up next season which I always found a really cool reveal. But yeah, the best is behind us.
The more I watch you guys the more I realize I am a hate watcher 💀
The problem with Arya is that the writers themselves, apparently, didn't know what to do or how to portray her. As the books ended, so did the idea of what should happen to these faceless people, what their ultimatum motives are, and what Arya turns into
By the way, one of the funny questions is not exactly how they could attach chains to a dragon - dead people don't swim, but they can walk on the bottom, right? Anyway, where did they get the giant chains? There don't seem to be many forges in the land of eternal winter.
When the Hound cause he was bored threw the rock at the dead man and that allowed the dead to walk on the ice resume well the stupidity of D & D's writing in the later season.
My 2 cents. Drogan was able to dodge that spear due to his previous battle experience. Second I believe the night king knows all like Bran he used them coming and set the trap to get that dragon.
12:22 Why is there one left? Maybe he wasn't turned by this Leader, but i'm guessing it was just lazy writing.
years will pass by and no one would ever know how the white walkers couldn't swim but manage to chain sucessfully a big sunken dragon 😂
Cregan Stark just said in HOTD that the dragons couldnt pass the wall in the first episode of season 2 none of all remember that
Bro. Brig can't hold himself spoiling the next scenes which make it obvious he's seen the shown before 😅. Try to be a little discreet.. could also say the same to Carter probl watched a few eps. In advance before reacting. ,🤐
The only genuine 1 I can see is that of Cannon.
I think it’s just called “predicting the plot” 🙂↕️. It’s honestly
not that hard to figure out ☠️
@@brigandrusno is not, you’ve been spoiling stuff for the past 6 season, maybe you didn’t watch it but you’ve already said you read stuff about shows, you have clearly read comments or memes or spoiling stuff about this… there’s moments where before something cool happens you can see it in your face your excited to see it before it happens and then you want to look smart and say, I predicted this… just be honest and say you know most of the story and don’t ruin it for everyone else….
@@Santiagoflo97 respectfully you don’t know anything about what I do or have looked up so you’re just gonna have to take my word for it! Not gonna sit here and act like I’ve been spoiled just bc you think so😂
@@brigandrus as you’ve seen… not only I, but a lot of people thinks so…. And I say that you know stuff because I’ve seen you in other reactions and you’re so much more genuine and enjoyable to watch because I can tell is something new to you, you’re probably my favorite reactor on other shows or movies in this channel after cannon, cuz he’s cannon the goat… 😂😂 but I don’t find you genuine sometimes with this reactions, and I apologize if I’m wrong, I really do, that’s just the way I may perceive it… there’s still much love for you this channel, this is one, if not the best reaction channel out there…💛💛
@@Santiagoflo97 Just because you can’t read where a plot is going doesn’t mean no one can
The conversation between Jon and Dondarrion reads like "We are not answering these questions, so stop it now"
You guys are thinking about things way too much. Lol it's fantasy...just go with it man!
The Lord of Light has manipulated all of this from killing some people, keeping others alive and getting them all together in this exact location with a dragon while the night king has been hanging around this area for years growing his army waiting for a dragon to show up and he had the spears ready and waiting
Every time I see this episode and see Viserion fall I go "POPSICLLLLLLEEEEEEEE!"
That scene between Sansa and Arya with the faces might be the most D&D scene in the entire series. It made no sense at all, and only exists to set up a "moment" later.