Mortal Kombat 1 is doing AWFUL at EVO! Horrible Entry Numbers, Dead Game?
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Weak game , Weak results.
Basically 😭
Weak is an understatement… i still cant believe this is the gameplay for a MK game in 2024
I competed in MK11 at EVO 2019. Made it all the way to Grr before I lost. I got to sit in the front row with him, Hayatei, TekkenMaster, and more. 2nd Best moment of my life. I got married the day before! :)
congrats!
Sounds awesome! I’d love to do that minus the marrying part lol
Reading your comment, gave me a very good feeling
hahahahahah, congratulations for both moments!
Mk1 has never been good. Blessing to the people who endure this game for content or money
Nah youre absolute trash at the game.
Imagine tuning into a game u don't care about. Holy heck, pathetic
I'm tired of the "its banned in Asia" argument" EVO is in America, MK is an American game, even though MK is banned in Asia it still sold more than all of the other games and yet it still couldn't even crack 1k entries at EVO. When are people going to stop lying to themselves and just admit that the reason why MK1 is not doing well in the competitive scene is because its just not a good game.
Even if it wasn’t banned in Japan, there’s no Japanese players gonna play this clunky mess
That’s sad. I really really love MK1. I’ve never been more engaged with a fighting game before so I really want it to succeed competitively.
Same here. I LOVE MK1. It is doing well in terms of overall numbers. Just not competitive numbers
@@isctaylor109what stats have you seen that make you think it’s doing well in any numbers besides copies sold?
I have my gripes with it but I like the game too, but they just need gameplay adjustments to make it interesting to watch
@@angel2x813 assuming you’re actually getting character variety, I think the game is incredible to watch as it is now. The aesthetic, the animations, the combos, the creativity, it’s amazing. There’s still work to do on balancing certain things, but especially buffing a lot of things, but that’s primarily for the sake of making the player experience better. Not to mention more content and basic features that have been missing. But the actual gameplay on screen is beautiful outside of pre patch peacemaker. Faysal’s Kitana at final kombat for example was pure ART.
I feel a part of it is there's hasn't been many tourneys yet
MK gets shit on because it's garbage.
"Players from this other games are entering it." I just keep hearing this statement without any substantial data to support it. You're assuming that significant players who play GGS also play Undernight or Grand, which is just not true. If you look over the chart on the site, you'll see that the highest cross-over rate between anime games (GGS and Grandblue) is only 20%. It's NOT all the same people. LOOK at the chart. That means there's 80% of people--at most--where there's no crossover. It's not ALL the same people. SF6 and T8 has the highest crossover rate, but it's still less than 40%. You repeatedly mention that it's all the same players for those games. Big bro, the data just doesn't back that up.
Tweedy, bringing up the point of MK being banned in Asia is disingenuous. Evo released the data on the entrants. Of the 10k people entering EVO 90% of them are from America, if you took out competition thats not from the US all those other games still dwarf Mk in entrants, again. EVO released this data. Should’ve done more research
You also keep talking about crossover entrants when evo also released this data, without crossover entrants those other games still have way more than MK.
Man mortal Kombat doesn’t even allow comments on their Kombat Kast streams, how the hell is this game’s community gonna grow competitively if the studio doesn’t even want you talking about it 😂
I could be wrong but I imagine EVO is 95%+ NA players. MK being banned in Asia shouldnt make any difference to the attendance at a tournament in the US.
Yeah but I feel like Asians take fighting games Way more serious so them flying to another country to compete isn't that far fetched, I thought the same thing tho bro; Because MK does feel like a NA/SA and a bit of EU fighter, Where Tekken and SF are dominated by a lot of Asian culture
@@51Archives the top players are sure. But there aren’t that many people who can spend thousands going to a fighting game tournament across the world.
@@51Archivestop Asian players don’t respect MK as a competitive game. Watch the player Book’s interview
You're very wrong.
@@Marcel16DM the vast majority of players at EVO are not from the US?
People who play strive don’t automatically play under night. MK1 is just a stale game at the highest level and super boring to watch
Something happened between injustice 2 and mk11 where everything got so tier whorey. In injustice 2 u had sonic cooking with characters like cold and canary, white boi winning a major with scarecrow, honeybee and biohazard with flash and bane, hayatei with Robin. I feel like mk11 and mk1 were so much more tier whorey. Not sure if it's something to do with the games themselves or some switch with the mindset of the community.
I agree 100 percent, and don't understand why at all
NRS does that as a form of promotion they add stupid characters to make the people who suck at the game and the people who hate using skill buy the game, dlc, costumes , etc cause all the people who play those types of characters are the people who’ll spend money
Yep! Always Johnny cage, Cameron every fvkn match, boring af
I think the problem is the characters need to be better balanced 😊 maybe 😅
I think the Kameo system was bad for MK1, they’re wildly inconsistent in terms of effectiveness. Just compare Shujinko to Sareena or Khameleon. Then we end up not only seeing the same Kameos again and again, but the same characters, because players want the most optimal team
Mk1 needs more character that are decent because u get tired of just seeing the same top 2 characters over and over again
I agree, I don't mind Johnny being strong I don't mind peacemaker being strong ,just bring up all the other characters and cameos up atleast to compete with that meta 🤦🏽♂️
@@irvingp6859I agree with this, reptile, havik and others being buffed hard would add so much more variety to a game that’s getting so stale. Scorpion is so boring to play and really needs some love. Sub and smoke need buffs as well. Scorpion is literally so trash that people who main him just run away and play him so slow and boring. We need more speed and more flashiness
@@DC-Supreme@DC-Supreme key word u said ,STALE ,to me this game more fun then mk11 but idk why I got tired of it faster 😢,I think the nerfing my peacemaker 14 times in 1 month made me mad lol I'll just wait for tekeda because am so bored of my main ashrah, n yes I like scorpion but he may be the boreingest 😂, too redundant, they need a cameo off option dare I say 🤔like they totally ignored frost 🤦🏽♂️n I love tweedy but I just can't watch this game anymore, it's like torcher
Many of the characters are just as strong if you really deep it. The top pros weigh a big influence on what the meta is as if their word is law. But realistically some characters just needs higher maintenance. A lot of people are just lazy to figure things out.
We need more than that we need a massive overhaul
Mk1 is not a good game. We play it cause it’s the newest mk game we got right now. To many nerfs, to many bugs, online still buggy, lack of content. And the competitive scene sucks cause everyone plays meta and there’s no variety.
So true 😂I only play it cause it was new n all but it's redundant, lack luster ,hopefully tekeda saves it for a month ,I can only play mk1 if am drinking 🍸 😂
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Not gonna lie I got about 500hrs in mk played since release and I find myself going back to mk11 here and there
Nah youre just trash at MK1
@@irvingp6859the amount of people on mic online that are drinking or smoking is insane 😂
I honestly can’t see why anyone would find this surprising. Who wants to play or watch a game based on endless spam loops? More people play MK11 on PC.
As I said in other social accounts today:
I'm not surprised. Anyone that follows NRS knows after a year of release, the numbers decline. I'd be more shocked if the numbers were more because MK 1 year one wasn't good. Can MK1 be better? Yes. At the end of the day, play the game you like everyone & worry less about critics
Good upload today Bird. Well said
Exactly someone with some common sense. Mk sells well but was never the big game of the fgc, and numbers go down after a year. It happen with mk9-mk1 nothing new here.
im glad people are recognizing flaws and not ignoring them now. while being fair
if every over game is getting more and more players MK saying the same is actually a huge loss.
@@kye4216 It's just that MK attracts a huge number of casual players because of the gore and how big the ip is but they couldn't retain them because of the lack of PVE content (I prefer that they focus on balance patches or online content but that usually doesn't make the numbers
@@Geanfranco1010 other fighting games focus even more on the online aspects and they still get huge player numbers at EVO
mk1 has a low player base. mk11 almost has as many people playing it currently than mk1. the game did not resonate with fans/casuals. seems like only the competitive players and content creators are keeping this game afloat
Maybe on steam but on ps5 and Xbox mk1 has more sells and downloads than street fighter or tekken
@@dec2567 that's because MK appeals to casuals more. A lot of people have dropped MK1 and the game is not as good as its competitors or predecessors
@@jpt00711 but it's selling more than street fighter and tekken weird
@@dec2567 because of casuals. What part of that don't you realise? Casuals drop games easily which is evident by the drop in numbers.
@@dec2567 it has 7000 active players online who play for more then a hour that’s a dead game lol it’s year 1 for comparison sf6 sometimes has 20k plus on steam alone online playing ranked
I think you should always go over negative mk topics so that it might influence the devs to do better. The more ppl speak out, the better bro.
The problem is a lot of the criticisms are bias or click bait. Constructive criticism is great, but constantly shitting on a game just because just makes the game look bad and might make WB support it even less.
@@christaansadler at this point how much worse can it get it takes a year to add online practice mode lol
Mortal Kombat being banned is Asia is a 90s thing. I live in Asia, and I know other players from other countries in the Asia region who have been playing Mortal Kombat since the PS2 Era, that includes myself who have been playing MK from Deadly Alliance all the way to MK1
Yeah, Asian player here and I got confused when he said that lol
Final kombat was so unfortunately atrocious. NRS allowed such a horrible meta age the worst time possible. Ninja on Liu for example would’ve made the tournament so much more entertaining. I absolutely love leagues like R1ps arena because they always stream high level matches with so much character variety. Grr at LCQ with Geras is another memorable run that was so much fun to watch. NRS has a lot of work to do to get he game i a better state and get more support and investment in pro komp.
The cameo system is gimmicky and takes away from the game in total. It makes it stale because everyone uses the same ones, and balancing is shitty because of it.
I can tell you've never seen an assist game before MK1, lol
@@Kitsune986he’s right, Kameos doesn’t even fit in thematically with Everything that MK is about.
@@vega6880
Bro, WTF are you talking about? It's not that deep, lmfao! What themes is it opposing? Are you saying MK characters have never teamed up to fight together?
I hate MK players so much. Literal casuals. This is why MK is a joke in the FGC
@@Kitsune986😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love them
@@Kitsune986 yeah MK is not an assist game that’s what I was getting at. Adding it in to cram more dlc characters was a bad move lol I guess you just didn’t get I was trying to say that.
I think is the kameo system’s fault, it encourages gimmicks and sets a terrible standard to what fighting games should be, people watching someone do the most unsafe shit just to be saved by Kano knifes must be like wtf is this
MK1 it just not a fun game to watch
To watch and to play for casuals! Invasion mode is the biggest trash in fighting games ever made!!
The game is in this position because creators like you trying to tell us mk1 is a good game when clearly it is not. The game could be in a better place but like this video there is no war in ba sing se
I also think that after all the obvious things like marketing and money there's also one important thing that really holds MK back competitively. It's character's legacy.
When you play and even watch T or SF - you see a lot of staff you've been seeing for years - moves, appearance, even costumes.
Whe you play every new MK - it's always ground zero. And not just moves and mechanics - even character's background changes with all this multiverse crap.
It's hard to be passionate about Kitana when there's a new one every fcking game. So for most players there's no reason to be a character specialist.
And it affects the competitive character variety a lot.
It’s easy 300 Johnnys vs 300 Peacemakers and maybe 45 random characters that won’t make it past qualis because why buff bad characters when you can keep nerfing the same character that won’t affect them whatsoever. They are treating this like Ubisoft treats rainbow 6 and just nerfing literally everything to the ground and when they buff characters they revert it back a patch or two later.
Biggest game is SF6 ! The king has returned ! But honestly luck of variety is the true downfull of MK 1, the game needs intense balance patches
Everything went downhill when spamming and walking back became the meta in Injustice 2 and SLOWING down the gameplay in MK11
I think my MK/Connor McGregor analogy is spot on. Who honestly cares about the McGregor comeback? And who knows - he might still be really good! But nobody cares! His brand has ascended the entire sport. And he's made so much money, why would HE even care? And as a UFC fan - I was WAY more excited anout Pereira/Jiri 2 than I was McGregor/Chandler!
That's probably how the FGC feels about MK.
The coping is pretty crazy here. Awareness? MK has had the biggest marketing push for any fighting game on every MK since MKX. MK1 is just a bad MK, that's all. People don't want to spend thousands of hours getting good at a bad game that nobody plays because it's a bad game.
This bad game is still shet on Tekken 7.5 and Dweeb 6, alright?
@@cpfantastic5576it has 600 entrants compared to 5200 also sf6 came out months before mk1 so it hasn’t even been a year yet year 2 there probably won’t be a pro scene after that
@@cpfantastic5576not really tekken and street fighter is doing way better than mk1 if we are being honest.
mk11 has had the highest players at EVO with 1500+ players MKX had 1100+ and both launched on April monsth before Evo. MK1 launched after Evo and that had alot to do with the numbers. MK11 has been the best MK game because of the EVO numbers? I dont think so
U said mk wins RUclips . That’s because it’s a casual game the more hardcore fans who care about tournaments and pro play watch twitch . That’s the most important part for a scene a lot of the numbers are inflated to because a lot of its omg they added peacemaker from the show omg they added homelander from the tv show . They fry out the characters for a month and leave
The game just doesn’t have a good pro scene and it’s nowhere near dead since it still has a high active player count daily even bigger then Tekken 8 currently Tekken has 6,430 active players while MK1 currently to has 6,880.
Where do you see these numbers
@@mullersimmons855I type in active player chart and it’s on a website.also want to point out I love Tekken and MK but SF6 still holds the most out of the three games the gap is pretty big too SF6 has 12,326 right now
@@mullersimmons855 steam much larger numbers om consoles, my brother plays mk1 on switch and they have an online scene too somehow
@@mullersimmons855active player/mortalkombat1
It collects data from all platforms for the game, not just steam
I think my original post got deleted but I looked up Active players and I love both games and SF6 has 12K which is a big Gap.
I gotta disagree tweedy I don’t think the anime games have as much overlap in players as you think. I’ve played all three and none are similar besides being anime, if I were to go to a tourney for them I’d probably do one of them not two or all three. It’s like thinking mk and street fighter will have overlap cuz there 2D. But as you know they are very different
MK1 isn’t a competitive game I think FK proved that. It’s really unbalanced and not fun to play at the higher level in my opinion. It’s just who can play the top 3 teams better everything that makes a fighting game a fighting game doesn’t really exist in MK1. Peacemaker being nerfed to shit, and Johnny not even really being touched is going to bring it down to even less options at top level.
My one gripe is the dlc characters. Stop it with thw guest characters, they dont even represent mortal kombat, who the hell is peacemaker for an mk fan ? No one. Its only for casuals to make money and if thats the target they succeded, what can I say...
If that 4 man tag fighter pops off later this year it's over for MK1.
No one asked for the kameo system. Waiting for 5 years to have a game like this to be released.... A chimp can pick up this game and abuse the kameo system to make yourself safe on a -9999 move.
The thing is, no one wants to play Johnny or these broken characters that are the meta right now, its sucked the fun from the game
Johnny is so boring 😂 same old, same old. Peacemaker is boring even by guest character standards imo. They got nerfed though and the meta might change.
*My comment is Long AF. Don't flame me. 😂*
So, I'm 36. Ive been playing MK my entire life and have been active in the FGC going to locals and tournaments since 2003. FGs are my favorite genre and I play everything. SF, Tekken, MK, Anime. You name it. However, MK has been my favorite IP.
With that said, here are my takes on MK1 as a whole. To preface, I love the game. It's the most fun I've had PERSONALLY since MK9. However, I can say that this is not the MK game that should have been released after MK11.
MK11, even though it's the best selling MK game to date, was not received well at all; and the team absolutely knows that. Their competitive fan base loves speed, combos, gore, and chaos. This is what makes MK hype; to play and to view. MK1, unfortunately, doesn't hit all the marks for many competitive players and hardcore MK fans.
MK1, while fun, seems like a spin off to the series. The story did not revamp the timeline as we thought and instead it was a continuation of MK11 where both timelines became cannon. Many characters underwent MAJOR changes that may have put some fans off. Imagine if Scorpion is your favorite character and you absolutely love the story of Hanzo Hisashi only to find out he doesn't exist as scorpion in MK1 and instead it's Kaui Liang. You're probably like, wtf? 😂.
Also, the game is a tag team fighter. There is a reason why you have Marvel players and Street Fighter players. Yea, some players play both titles; but you cannot believe that a tag fighter would be everyone's cup of tea. NRS actively divided their core competitive scene with this decision.
Overall, even though MK1 is a fun game at its core, IMO. This is absolutely not the MK game that should have been released as the next title in the series.
This reminds me of the release from MK Armageddon to MK VS DC; fans were like WTF. Lol. It just doesn't make sense as a main installment in the franchise. It tries to do too much, while not doing much of anything at all.
I honestly think MK13 is going to be a fan service title. 100%. It's going to be like MK9/MKX 2.0 if WB allows enough development time.
The big difference between mk and other fgs is that i think those games were made with the competitive scene in mind first
Exactly mk1 is simalar to smash it wasn’t made to be competitive it s more of a party game u can play drunk with friends .
@@saintxeno777Bad example cause Smash never had less than 2k entrants at EVO.
Even with Nintendo actively trying to kill the competitive scene.
@@mappybc6097 I’m saying that in respect that the majority of the fgc doesn’t respect smash players
@@saintxeno777 Fair enough.
I mean the big three games on there have massive publisher support and well stablished circuits. They are always at tournaments making big annoucements, they support their games for a long time. MK has shity comunication and low amount of cash on the competiteve scene. Pro player make more money being content creators. so obviously entrants are going down.
They really need to communicate more! I have mixed feelings about Boon: it depends on whether he teases info that’s HYPE or irrelevant 😂 I know he says WB holds him back and I totally get him not wanting to get in trouble with his bosses 😵😂 But we’ll see IF MK gets more support this time: they were rumored to want more KPs to add Ermac, Takeda, Reptile and the cyborgs in 11 but Covid stopped production. That shouldn’t be an issue this time 😵💫
MK one has Warner Brothers strangling it. That suicide squads game losing 200mil can’t be helping.
No one wants to watch johnny mirrors for the whole tournament mk1 is a dead game and its at the bottom for a reason they put in the least amount of love they are the most greedy company rn in the fgc scene stop making excuses and just pray we get injustice 3
Well said 🫡
Why would you buy another nrs product after this?
@@hands-ongaming7180 because they did pretty good on injustice and haven’t messed up one of those yet
@@Druski_1 that’s true bro. Mk11 had mixed reception but ij2 seemed to have a good ending
Facts 💯
Not surprised, alot of people don't care to watch mk1 or to play it because of the metas, pair that with the rough start it had it's just not the good attention grabber it could be. But if we're being real mk1 is evolving for the better and has the potential to be the best mk we've had since X. Good vid as usual tweedy
MK1 hasn’t shown an ounce of improvement. idk where you’re getting that from, the low number entires, is going to be something that shows nrs that they NEED to improve.
@@KingJadInfiniteHope between adding things to make the game feel complete like cross play, wifi indicator, better network stability, to patches that actually address problems with characters. Patches that so far have had a good balance of nerfs and buffs and reworks to characters and kameos that need it. This game has shown plenty of growth at least in the more competitive scene and community. To casuals it's a different story. But as others have said, play and support the games you like.
To say the game hasn't improved st all, and the low entry numbers prove it, is proof to me u don't play the game and didn't watch the video.
@@nattyt4721 we've had some rough patches that weren't good, and some features it was missing were day 1 features, but the reworks are cool and i hope the characters are being finished and improved day by day.
@@nattyt4721 all that should have been here out the gate
Gonna be honest, mk1 needs more characters and variety. Kameos are whatever, but just add more content
The kameos are literally spam.
Also we gotta be honest having a block button in. 2024 no crossups janky animation and no lobbies and online practice mode still shows that the game is not made for competitive play .
Bro what you mean virtua fighter has a block button n is probably the most difficult fighting game with great competitive aspects and super balanced. Only thing wrong is sega abandoning it for another sonic
@@SuperBabyMario0C lol bruh that game is 20 years old
I mean so is third strike and that’s higher on the list than mk. Does that make mk better cuz it’s new? Sega dropped the ball inpromotiong but everything I said in that comment is true so idk what point you’re tryna make tbh. Block buttons has non to do with a quality fighter that has competitive aspects and balance
Like fr what kind of a response is that? You dismissed a game with better gameplay cuz it’s old yet here you are talking about mk n it’s block buttons when mk is just trash anyways. So I said vf a great example has a block button then you said it’s old but third strike is literally like 11 years older than vf 5 inital release not even ps4-5 one. So what’s your point? Age? Quality? Or block buttons? Please don’t sidetrack I don’t care I just said block buttons don’t make a game. Am ass game is ass regardless of age or block buttons 🤷🏻♀
MK is the fighting game series I started with, even though I think MK1 is a massive disappointment I still care about the series a lot and seeing what NRS are doing with it is just disgusting to me. Not even the monetisation, I can stomach that but just the inclusion of terrible guest characters over actual MK characters, Kameos, terrible net code etc
Like honestly give this series to someone else at this point.
MK always has been since the very first, a niche game. To attract attention at the arcades like it did in the beginning. To take away the seriousness of Tekken, Street Fighter, Virtual Fighter, etc. Your points about MK being banned in some countries and awareness is very valid though. Also NRS/WB partnership is killing it. Most players have always wanted MK fighters, not guest characters. The DEI hires post MKX is another reason it’s dying. I’ve been playing MK since the beginning. It was better when it was Boon and Tobias. Armageddon was the worst MK game until MK1 came out. That’s my opinion but I have been playing MK since the first. I want MK to succeed. I want MK to be taken seriously at evo. But can these developers make it happen? Doesn’t look like it so far. Perhaps WB is the problem and to be fair, wouldn’t surprise me.
You can’t call the highest selling fighting game franchise of the last decade niche bro.
Women were hot in mk11 what are you talking about DEI?
Bro the cope is insane
The best thing about final kombat was the chat spamming Eagly and forcefield 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I loved MK but this game is absolute trash
MK1 is a turd.
No amount of promotion will make the game not suck. There's a reason you don't show up either.
"Somebody's momma playing Johnny" followed by the sarcastic "I want that to be me!" had me dying bro
getting beat by a 30 year old game is crazy
it didn't really tho, most of those entrants are people going for sf6 and just saying f it i'll put $10 more in and play 3rd strike
@@TweedyMKthe game sold millions of copies and can’t get a thousand entrants to be fair even if what u said was the case mk has been around 30 years nobody just really thinks of it as a competitive fg and that’s ok other pros would play it if it was taken seriously look at strive a lot sf players play it competitively
@@TweedyMK3rd strike is the goat you should check it out more
Because these games were made with competitive play in mind. MK at its core has been more of a casual game then other FGs and a massive portion of the FGC treats MK like they do Smash bros and doesn't respect its competitive circle which leads to even MORE people shitting the game unfairly as a whole @@saintxeno777
@TweedyMK mk as a whole will never reach its peak again because NRS never truly listens. Sf6 beats it by miles it has variety nk1 does not. It's not a fun game.
I think the sudden change to a cameo system is very weird when Marvel v Capcom did that 20 years ago. Also I don't think MK is bigger on Twitch.
MK is nonexistent on twitch
The game is just not fun to play. Not fulfilling at all. Yes, it's better than MK11 (I hated that game), but not by that much. Honestly, the only reason its better imo is because of better combo potential but that's not saying much. And you can argue that MK11 did other things besides gameplay wayyyy better.
It feels like only a handful of characters actually have a fully realized and useful kit. Hence why you see the same top tiers in touneys. This also applies to the kameos as there are only a few that are consistently used. I love assist/tag fighters so I was really excited when they first announced kameos but the system has been a huge let down. It feels so half baked.
Like Ed Boon is on record saying they wanted to "open the game up" some more but it doesnt really feel that way. The Kameo system is half baked. Most characters feel like they're missing more actually useful normal/buttons. It's like they're scared of making another MKX like game with crazy shit that they shit their pants if they think one move is too useful/op.
The neutral game is not fun. Poking is strong as hell. The game is keep away heavy but not to the extent of Injustice 2. They're scared to give characters useful mid strings. And they nerf any damage as soon as its figured out. All they've done is nerf nerf nerf instead of buffing and making other characters actually fun to play.
Sigh. I really wanted to like this game. I'll come back for Takeda since he was my main in MKX but I'm already preparing myself to be disappointed.
And ultimately everything I mentioned above adds to the reason this game hasn't been successful competitively - it's not fun to watch.
Unless they make HUGE gameplay mechanics overhauls, I do not see myself coming back permanently. It sucks that it'll probably be another 4 years minimum until the next NRS game, which might not even be a fighting game! Such a disappointment.
Nah aint no coming back from this the simple fact a game from 20 years ago (SF3rd strike) doin better than Mk1 says more than enough, put em ina coffin😂
The character variety in SF 6 has just recently improved with the new patch. Im not sure how much character variety in tournament affects the games popularity with casuals. if I start up SF 6 right now, 80% of my matches will be against Akuma.
Well now it’s 80% Bison lol
Depends what level your at in high rankks master I played like 8 Akins’s 4 bisons 1 manon 5 zangiefs and like 10 ryus because the game is refined for the most part and balanced it’s a true competitive fighting game . With lobbies and online practice mode .
Shotos will always be popular with casuals because if we're being honest they're basic enough to just carry. Bison is popular now because he's new but I've already noticed a drop off compared to Akuma.
In the pro scene there's way more character diversity, AKIs reaching top 8, Manons too, Lily winning major tournaments etc.
@@saintxeno777 I'm Diamond 2. Most of my matches are diamond through master rank. Yes, I know about the various modes in the game.
@@aledantih6524 I think it has more to do with Ryu and Ken being the face of street fighter.
The one thing NRS won’t do, is make a new fighting game.
Like we got injustice but they’re only for MK and Injustice.
I feel like if they at NRS make a new 3rd fighting game that’s not gorey it’ll be allowed in other places like Asia for example.
New characters new story, new everything, get WB to promote it and boom, you get a New following and fan-base of something new. We’ve had MK for Years now but I think the gore and brutality of it all wouldn’t allow it to do as well as we should so hope it could be.
In short, have NRS start new and get better numbers idk
Because NRS is kinda the joke of the FG scene, if they make a new fighting game that’s nothing like Injustice or MK, it could potentially do numbers idk
This game has been nothing but a disappointment
Sad that mk1 is doing so bad but the game is legitimately bad so at least netherrealm will likely be more willing to change it or at least do better with the next installment
I think many pro players trash MK1 so much that WB was like “you know what i won’t support yall”
The prize pool for mk tournaments are too low. Top 8 at CEO were earning like $22. A joke
Hey, Tekken player here. Thanks for the video! Two things: I hope y'all get the kompetitive scene in a healthy place and best wishes for NRS listening to your komplaints and getting better character balance for you. Tekken 8 had *really* rough balance on launch, and gameplay was not pretty, but Bandai-Namco listened and made things a lot more sane in the first few patches. Best wishes, sincerely.
Secondly: I think there's a social/political thing going on with not taking shots at the KOF scene for not coming out -- KOF is so Latino, y'know? American FGC folks aren't going to make fun of folks from Mexico or Brazil (etc) for not traveling to US tournaments. But MK players (for better or worse) feel like more fair game because we (SF/Tekken players) grew up with you.
I hope they make mkx the throwback game next year so y’all can see the game is the problem
Yeah this just isn't that surprising. Like Tweedy said if you look at the numbers from past games it's pretty comparable. MKX 2015 had 1.1 K entrants, IJ2 in 2017 had 800 entrants or so, and MK11 in 2019 had 1.5 K entrants. The numbers just die off from there and it's mostly the people who stick with NRS games and don't compete in other games. Plus a lot of people forget that out of all the games MK is the only game that is banned in Asia and other countries. That being said, year one of MK1 was such a shit release. That coupled with the competitive meta is probably why the numbers are unusually low for the first year of the game's release. I love the game, it's really fun and I still play it but WB is so greedy and they may or may not be the prime reason for the decline in quality of NRS games. I'm staying positive tho, the patch last week was a small step in the right direction and the Takeda patch will bring some hype back and hopefully buff a lot of characters/kameos to spice things up and put more life and expression in the game.
Literally why can’t every character get mega buffed, make everyone viable it really CANT be that difficult if they can nerf people into the ground super easily
KOFXV is my favorite game on that list but the one with the lowest numbers. I dont play a game because it is popular, I play it because I like it
If 645 entrants means MK12 is dead then MK9 was dead on arrival since it never broke 500 on any tournaments
Different context. 500 back then was way more than 500 now.
@@kye4216 not really, MK9 was still placing near or at the bottom of registration ranks and was considered unpopular competitively, just like MK12 is today
So u mean it gained 145 players since mk9 wow that says a lot
@@saintxeno777 thats not their point?? The point was that a game as beloved as MK9 was not popular at all in any competitive spaces lol. MK in general as a franchise is not taken seriously in most competitive spaces because lets cut the shit here, MK since the very first game has been a broken franchise in terms of balancing lmao even during MK9 we had shit like the jax infinite, Cyrax, Kabal, Kenshi, Freddy, Sonya.
@@saintxeno777 "I like pancakes" So you hate waffles?
It's not really rocket science. They just need to balance the game more by buffing bad characters. They can consult pro players to rebalance the game.
What are the big 3s prize pools?
EVO prize money suck
First MK game I actually don't like. I tried so hard, love the franchise but kameos (pardon my french) are fucking terrible. First time I'm going to ignore it exists, play MKX and MK11 and wait for the next installment. And hope they'll hit it out of the park with it.
tweedy do you have any idea if sonic is playing this year?
Balanced as in everyone has their own unique dirt, nobody wants to see a balanced game where everyones doing the same shit just different character
Now that MVC2 is coming things might get even more competitive. People are gonna want to play the new game also
"Many half-baked updates completely bugging aspects of the game for months at a time (can tell you more about the month of random massive frame drops online) sporadic reactionary nerf-filled patches with no vision, very questionable/kinda boring tour format." - ludi
"Someones mom using Johnny making top 8" killed me! 🤣🤣
just give us mkx all over again. That game was god's gift
MK1 is decent at best but I believe it was doomed to fail because it was supposed to be Injustice 3. The “kameo” system was supposed to be “sidekicks” for super heroes which just makes more sense. It’s the comedy character hour and the game is massively unbalanced with nothing for the casual fans. It was rushed and this is the result. And for some reason, I still love it. Not as much as SFVI but more than Tekken 8. 🤷🏾
I went ALL I when MK1 dropped. It was fun at 1st. Then Bison dropped and I picked up SFVI again. Now I play them both back to back. And I have to be honest as an MK fan boy. SF is just a better game.
More fun to play and watch. It moves faster the engine is smoother. MK1 is becoming less and less fun. The fatal blow animations slow the game down so much. Waiting for fatalities to end drags the game. The normals in MK1 are too poke centric. Mayne bring the RUN option back to Mk to speed it up.
Good for NRS for nerfing the Cyrax Baraka Meta. That could have been a strong contender for Johnny , Peacemaker and khameleon…nerfing Laos hat…They are just nerfing the game into the ground.
You would think that maybe the tournament rules could be changed to create a stir in viewership. This may sound really dumb, but hear me out. What if there are rules that winners and losers of matches MUST change characters? I believe there needs to be more at stake and more interesting variety. This is just a rough draft of ideas. I know this would take too much time, too. BUT, I think there needs to be some sort of change to keep things interesting. Any thoughts?
Imma be honest This doesn't matter.
The competitive scene doesn't either it takes far more effort, and audience to fund this scene anyways.
This isn't a measurement of the games livelihood as competive scenes dont do the heavy lifting for the livelihood of ANY game.
Is low tournament interest sad? But
This is just hate Farming atp.
You can look at games like Ki,Umvc3, DBZF , Skullgirls the game, and its competitive scene are kept alive by their fanbase inside or outside evo.
random people will watch mk fatalities and stuff thats why it gets numbers on tictoc but no one is sitting down watching mk1 sets thats for sure
Seems like an unfinished game tbh😅😅
If you make a dull trash low effort game this is what happens
Here we go again acting like we surprise 😂
I firmly believe MK1 is a decent game.
Here’s where the problems lie in my opinion.
There’s a lot of casual players who wouldn’t even dare play a ranked match , making the comp scene very small.
The back and forth of nerfs and buffs discourage some comp players from competing
The game is not allowed in Asia
EVO is 300 days post MK1 release.
Say what you want but the winner
of the latest MK1 pro tourney just won himself $70k. And the regional tourney winners(online) went home with 5k each time
In fairness I think it’s doing alright
At the end of the day watch you enjoy and play what you enjoy. If this is job then you gotta do what you gotta do. If it’s not and you don’t compete clearly it doesn’t really matter how you view these. Those who go and compete will always do so at a high level regardless of how many entrants there are.
70 k that’s cool the capcom cup winner won a million dollars and 2nd place got 300k
under nights numbers arent bad ... and they need to take official numbers on people who enterered multiple games not guestimates
The kameo's are what turned me off from the game, and I was open and optimistic about it when it was announced. Hopefully, they will go back to 1v1 gameplay for the next Mortal Kombat. I was low-key, hoping they would just expand on what they did with MK11 but with finer tuned faster gameplay.
Great take Tweedy - not mean - not ignorant - just factual
I'm a long time mk fan.. however, based on what nrs and Ed boon has done to mk11 with abandoning it and them releasing mk1 being incomplete, I am officially done with them and moving back to rp games. You can say, " oh, just get better bro!" I would say I'm pretty decent at the game, especially the previous game. However, the fighting system simply has too many unnecessary flaws to play competitively..I understand these companies have to make money but the fact they have gone away from what made their previous games great clearly shows that they are only going to get worse. 2k sports has done this and failed, Activision has done this and failed, along with many other companies. It's only about getting your money with nothing worthy of playing competitively. We could make these companies give us what we want but unfortunately the fans are different in a weird wokeish way and the bulk of fans/players seem like bots and takes whatever these companies give them no matter how horrible it is. We literally are getting downgrades of what use to be great across the board in regards of games and all entertainment. Yet we continue to accept it.
It was fun but I understand everything doesn't last. You guys continue to enjoy the bullshit..
People are tired of seeing the same characters on screen
Yeah peacemaker and Johnny is boring they need to focus on balancing or buffing the other characters I played last night after so long online (which took forever to find a match) I can see why people ask for buffs certain characters don’t stand a chance when you put them up with others. I think if they focused on buffing other characters to get them strong with out a cameo I think the game will be in a better spot
Imo NRS needs to stop being so focused on “tiers” when they make their games. They need to stop making this character better then this and that one better then this one. JUST MAKE THE CHARACTERS GOOD lol ALL OF THEM. Stop making a meta to fighting games it just does t work. Let all of the characters have crazy stuff and then the game would be fun to watch. I feel like that’s what this is. Every match is just the same old. I might be fun to play but it ain’t fun to watch. So people ain’t trying to see that.
Only 10% of people who attend EVO are from outside of the US so stop with the BS excuse about travelling. It's time that people accept that MK1 just isn't good. The NRS community itself is insecure and has isolated itself from the rest of the FGC. During MKX we had people from SF, Tekken and other games commentating and playing the game. Neither NRS nor the community really cares about growing the competitive side of their game. It's time you guys stop blaming everyone else and take some responsibility for your scene.
Mk1 needs more character variety in tournaments to look more appealing.....it was definitely what brought me to watching tournaments back in mkx....If i wasnt already hyped about it probably wouldnt have even watched final kombat
Kameos killed it for me. I like old fashioned 1v1. Mkx was my favorite
Everyone realizes NRS dropped the ball. They shoulda delayed the release of MK1 by a few years. I believe it was cut short in the production phase by Covid. They even admitted hotswapping injustice 3 for mk1 😂
Cameos did kill MK1 and also no balances in charecters.
Just say you don't like assist games, lol. There's no need to lie
@@Kitsune986assist games are good. Mk1 isnt
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Trust me, I know, lol. MK1 is trash. Especially with how they handle assists
@@Kitsune986 I feel like cameos were a last minute inclusion and they didn't have the proper time to flesh then out
Where can I find these numbers? I want to see if I can find how many people entered DBFZ.
Edit: I can tell a lot of people in the comment section have never seen a tag fighter a day in their lives before MK1, lol
Dbfz is out is not at evo
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It's there as a side game, lol
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As a side game it is