True.. except the whole "shapes" idea on guitar is a superpower of the instrument. If I want to play in something that's in E in F.. I just move every note up 1. Or use a Capo. But a pianist has to transpose every sharp and flat carefully. Their finger positions literally change. I can play in any key on the guitar because the shapes are the same. A pianist has to learn them all separately.
Yes thats how it is at first. then you realize everything you play sounds the same because those shapes are neither musically nor harmonically intuitive or interesting. Inversions, Intervals, triads, voice leading are for a Lot of guutarists foreign concepts.
If you're a strummer, guitar is good for your confidence. Most people don't notice a wrong strummed chord, but a bad note on a piano can really stand out.
@@subzerokosnot true. If your intonation sucks have fun playing melody. It won't happen. Being a decent woodworker is as much the job of s guitar player as being a player. We're obsessed with wood type, pickup type, string guage, etc
That isn't true. To master any instrument is to play it at the highest level and requires intense dedication whether it is piano, guitar, xylophone, violin, recorder or voice, there is not a point where you stop and say okay, I've mastered this.
@@matotuHELL Tim Henson ? Lol look at youtube there are dozens of random guys cover Playing God better or nearly as good as him. Once you have all the basic technique down and perfect you can play 99% all the song out there . That's why there are so many good guitars players on youtube, they must be out number the good piano players on this platform at least 10 to 1.
@@matotuHELLnot possible, piano is well over difficult to master it, and every guitarist knows that. If you play like a professional, with all emotions, pedals… there are no comparison
I play both. Started off on guitar and then learned piano. Have to say piano taught me more in 1 year about music theory than I ever got from playing guitar. Everything made sense and actually made me a better guitar player for the new understanding too
As a piano player, I was always hella frustrated with finger positioning on the guitar. Like, when you play the piano, of course, you can hit a wrong key or accidentally slip and hit two keys at once, but that's fairly easy to control, even when you're playing fast. With guitars on the other hand, if you dare move your finger tip half a millimeter off the center of the fret - you get a pathetic messy fart instead of a clean note. And you're supposed to play chords, not just single notes. I can play pretty complex stuff on the piano, but when it comes to the guitar, anything that's harder than a bar chord will be a nightmare for me.
Piano also has the status advantage. Person plays the guitar: hey, that's cool. Can you play song X? Person plays the piano: holy shit! They must be a musical genious!!
This absolutely happens with the piano too bro. If you play something: "Omg that's so cool, can you play Golden Hour/Rush E...?" If you play classical: "Omg that's so cool, do you know any 'real songs?' "
In a band context, if the singer says "hey, my voice is kind of tired. Let's do the next one in G," that's not really that hard on guitar, even if you don't know a lot about how the shapes might change. Meanwhile, there's no capo big enough to fit around a piano.
I saw a video where a violinist says to change the scale of the song to a pianist, and the pianist changes the scale just like that! My mind was blown. Wonder how much practice it takes to get to that level.
If you're in a band and have a pianist, one of two things is almost certainly true. You're either financially successful enough to travel with a real piano, meaning you have a professional pianist who transposes on the fly like that without thinking, or you fit the 95% scenario of a band with a keyboardist who can either do that or simply press a transpose button. The bottom line is that it's going to be really, really hard to find a band where this is a problem.
I play guitar. Piano is something I really want to learn but keep putting off for one reason or another. And I'm pretty sure I'll struggle harder in piano than I do on guitar simply because my brain is incapable of moving any two of my limbs independently. Guitar requires both hands to be in time always, but your two piano hands could be doing two very different things and the ability to do that seems like a superpower to me. Massive respect to piano players (and drummers)
Piano is definitely a better instrument for learning about music notation and music theory in general, as each symbol corresponds to one note (unlike guitar, where you can play the same note on multiple strings). This, among other reasons (such as no need for callouses) is why I think anyone interested in learning an instrument should start on piano if they can. Then again, the size of a guitar makes it feel so much more manageable, so it might be tough to convince people about this.
When I was learning piano I started to get interested in learning guitar too, and whenever I looked up online which was easier they always said "Guitar is much easier". I got a guitar and, for me at least, that couldn't be more wrong.
That muscle memory thing is so true, whenever im done with learning a piece on piano and start learning a new one i forget the old one immediately, but i never forget the bass line of a song
A piano guy I played with said it's harder to emulate the rhythmic things you can do on guitar so that's probably it. You can only push keys on the piano but guitar has other stuff like muting and harmonics
1. always keep a keyboard / piano with you as a reference, even if you are learning guitar. 2. Guitar seems harder than piano because notes are a mess, not laid out in a linear fashion. So starting is harder. But over time, as your muscles start to remember notes, guitar actually becomes easier than piano - at the end of the day you are training one hand vs both (independently) on piano, and add feet too to make it even more complex.
I play both at jazz level, more guitar, and I agree. If you're trying to match a melody piano is way easier as you just change inversion. Piano it's all easily spelled out. I just figured out why a guitar song works by playing on piano and seeing the voice leading. The same voice leading to make the melody on guitar often requires you to play chords in different places on the neck to achieve the same thing. I know a chunk of music theory and chords are more of a black box on guitar since the spread of notes is less clear. I view guitar chords as a unit in this fingering is this sound profile more than individual notes. Piano the spelling is very clear and you have 100% control over the spread of notes all the time.
When I was casually learning piano, I used to just plink away on keys and feel like I was doing some cool stuff, and now that I'm casually learning guitar every other time I play something it sounds awful and I have to google something like "why does my guitar sound bad" and it'll be like "you should move closer / further from the fret" or "your other finger should have been muting this completely unrelated string" or whatever lol. That said, the portability is definitely the reason I've practiced so much more guitar!! And it's very satisfying when something finally sounds good
I think a case for guitar can be made due to the fact that scales are the same no matter what (excluding the weird B string interval difference). A major scale is a major scale with the same shape all around the neck whereas for piano you have to kinda think about it. Also the fact that you have to worry about two separate lines on piano whereas for guitar, although picking more complicated parts can be challenging, you're still playing one unified line.
I mean, tbh there are styles outside of picking. Carter style, fingerstyle, percussive, etc. A lot of soloists pieces have all the bass+main melody+ treble.
If you're a guitar player, get a keyboard as well. Just a cheap Casio or Yamaha. Even if the aim isn't to master piano or to perform with it, it is still so useful just for understanding musical concepts or for song writing. I use a keyboard all the time for trying stuff out like creating a pretty bad backing for my guitar playing or trying out a bassline against chords. You don't have to play it well for it be useful and sometimes coming up with an idea on keyboard can be great when you transfer it to guitar because it can break you out of making things up based on familiar shapes.
bro's like IceCreamSandwich (youtube animator), super halarious but your videos actually have some great info about guitar/music. keep it up, your videos always make my day! 😂
Nearly all instruments are hard to master. The thing that changes is the expectation. The more capable an instrument is, the more you're expected to be able to do with it. The only instrument that would be easy to master would be one which couldn't be played substantially better after a short learning period.
been a guitarist for almost 18 years without knowing theory, only now i have decided to learn things and also learn the piano, and its so much easier to match chords and voice leading, and i can write the guitar and baselines all together in a way that is theoretically right
Soooooo your music ia dope af... i'm newly obsessed... and these videos are hilariously entertaining and educational. Your personality/sense of humor is literally perfect! I literally cant!
Guitar is one of the most difficult instruments if you push your playing. Cuz it's very unstable from take to take, pretty much like vocals. Piano or drums, for example, are much more stable and predictible.
This is THE video I needed. I was pretty confident playing the piano, but after 3 years of having moved abroad, my skills of playing vanished. Now it‘s time to bring them back^_^ So, I bought a guitar, and it… it feels like a completely different world, I love it 😂❤
It's really the repertoire that makes piano a difficult instrument to master. As a pianist you are often a bit of a one-person orchestra and people also know to expect that from you. But of course there are some really amazing and difficult things to do that you can do as a solo guitarist too. I would say that learning and memorization of piano repertoire generally takes more time than guitar repertoire but they can both be extremely demanding technically. Guitar can be a much more expressive instrument and producing a good sound takes a lot more effort.
As a pianist, nope. Piano is much harder to master, the technique is ridiculously difficult when you get to very technical pieces, making you literally rethink every wrist rotation, arm movement, dynamics etc. But i do agree that for learning music theory is easier
To play guitar at the highest level you have to think every single note through including wrist rotation, arm movements, how far along the string you are going to pluck it to get the right tone, how to ensure other strings are dampened (or left to ring). Really no instrument is harder to master than any other, all virtuosos are performing at the limits of human ability.
@@vodkaman1970no piano is well over difficult to master it with the independence of the hands … the 3 pedals… it would be easier to master guitar than piano if you took 1000 people.
@@zoteck9177 There doesn't come a point where anyone truly masters an instrument, so no, piano is not more intrinsically difficult to master than guitar. There is always something more demanding to tackle and the people who are at the highest level of playing on any instrument are all pushing at the limit of what is humanly possible.
Yeah as someone who plays both, piano is much more difficult. The repertoire alone is insanely more difficult than anything on guitar. People that don’t play the piano don’t realise, but it’s much more than just playing the right notes. Everything from voicing, dynamics, rotation of the wrist, tone quality, speed at which you press the notes, pressure behind the fingers when pressing the notes, along with all the musical aspects such as rubato and feeling, plus with the pedal, piano definitely makes for the more challenging instrument.
@@ldgaming4213 That is another thing. Piano is almost an emulation of an orchestra. In classical music, when you delve deep into music theory, you can vary the tone quality of your some of your notes to almost emulate the timbre of an instrument in an orchestra, for example you may have some high notes that feel quite energetic so you press the note quicker to highlight the energetic feel and emulate a piercing flute sound, whereas you may have some more deep, bass notes which you emulate a brass instrument by pressing the key slower but still maintaining the weight behind your finger. It’s all about varying the emotion, making it interesting for the audience. As for your second point, I agree. Just because you are pushing a recorder to its absolute maximum doesn’t mean it is harder than another instrument. While it may sound like I always think piano is harder, I don’t - I do think guitar is harder to pick up. With piano, it’s pretty easy to play a chord, but it’s much harder to get the shapes on the guitar and strum correctly. I also think piano is easier to pick up music theory with. But, like violin, I think guitar is an instrument that is hard to begin with, but gets progressively easier over time as you get better. However, I think the piano is the opposite - easy to pick up and begin with, but as you progress, it keeps getting harder as new techniques are added and new things to think of are introduced.
That’s an understatement… piano is sitting on a beach with a drink in your hand. Guitar is getting kicked in the balls while throwing up and having diarrhea.
The piano is relatively straitforward when it comes to getting the sound that you want out of it. The hard part is learning other peoples rythem and paterns. I was able to get a relitively good grasp on it in around three months.
I've been playing jazz piano for about 9 years but also started learning guitar/electric guitar because it seems like the closest instrument we can get to the most objectively best instrument. Harmonically you can play complex chords (compared against monophonic instruments), less steep learning curve when learning chords because of similar hand shapes, melodically you can make it sing similar to a human voice with vibrato and good phrasing and sliding, rhythm guitar can provide a pulse similar to drums, the ability to play bass/chords/melody/rhythm at the same time, it spans 4 (or 5) octaves, super extensive repertoire of many many genres even across time and countries, portable especially if you get the mini 6 string guitars, pedals allow for endless tones and effects, more affordable, lastly and least importantly most people enjoy guitar. I'm still trying to figure out which has a higher skill cap, like how long would it take to play like Steve Vai or Franz Liszt?
Hey you touched on something but I just wanted to double down on it - the piano muscle memory you refer to. It's because finger shapes and movements differ from key to key to key. On piano, it's easy enough to play a C scale - hit all the white notes. But move over just one semitone and play C# ... well now there are some white notes you can't hit and some black notes that you must. Completely different shape. Times 12. Times another 12 for each mode, if that's your poison. Some are easier and some are harder, but they are all a bit different. On guitar, the same shapes apply across all keys - learn them once and you're done.
Played guitar for 9 years. I'd say guitar is not hard for the reasons you mentioned. Finger dexsterity, especially for the left hand, gives guitar its difficulty later on. I would say piano is easier to pick up but harder to master because piano players have to control up to ten fingers and play many notes at once, while guitar players only use 8 fingers and usually stick to 1-3 notes at a time even at a high level.
ive been playing the piano since i was ten (now 35). im no pro by all means and quit piano lessons when i was 18 and played it very occasionally since then. i started guitar just for fun a few years back but got really invested like a month ago or so and my progression leaped since then. both instruments have their pro and cons but for me the biggest pros for the guitar are: i love the sound, you can manipulate the sound by choosing a pick or fingers (my preferred method) and you can play it literally anywhere you want. got a baby taylor and i just love to practice while laying in bed. such a cool instrument ❤
Music theory is the exact same whether it's on a piano or a guitar... Also playing two easy chords with different rhythms using both hands on piano is way harder than playing an intricate chord on guitar. You should try it. Guitar is ez, you just learn what chord shapes are and get away with that.
Ive been playing guitar longer than piano, currently i conisder guitar harder. I find the whole technical stuff reaaaally difficult to learn. At least with piano you dont have to think about muting strings while playing
I like them both, but for the most part, I play totally different music on each. He's right about music theory, but understanding one does help a lot with the other. Bottom line: the piano is the best all around instrument, but the guitar is the coolest and most fun.
Depends on the type of music you're playing tbh I don't think a guitar solo from a 1970s peice of music is comparable to one written for the piano a hundred or two hundred years earlier If you were to compare classical guitar to classical piano on the other hand, or contemporary piano to contemporary guitar, the argument becomes clearer
I play both guitar and piano well, but guitar often feels harder, because, when pressing bars, my fingers often touch other strings making them unable to produce sound and that makes my fingerstyle sound worse. Also, I am not always able to play barre chords. Both these things do not take place in playing piano: you just press a key, and a sound produces. On the other hand, I almost cannot play piano with my eyes closed, which I can easily do with guitar. Playing chord songs is easier on guitar.
The argument about translating muscle memory for one song to another is not valid. That depends entirely on the nature of the music. If we're talking about playing accompanying guitar chords and having that translate between songs, then the same thing applies to piano. That translates immediately. But if we're talking about playing classical guitar music, then there is a lot of muscle memory that musicians develop uniquely for each piece. Some things translate, like arpeggios, scales and other common patterns, and that applies to piano as well. I think arguing that piano muscle memory translates less quickly is apples to oranges. People saying that must be comparing completely different types of music.
Wait till dis guy discoverers Liszt, I’m a classical pianist so we’re talking different genres here, and it’s very different from pop, much harder and way more fun (and torturous)
Both of you are wrong (kinda) For the piano, you can't just mash keys and expect it to sound good, you'll need to learn scales, chords, inversions, progressions, etc... With that being said, you can say the same thing for guitars, and learning scales on a guitar is without a doubt harder HOWEVER it's a lot easier in guitar to improv chords because you can literally hold a barre/power chord and just go up and down the scale without thinking much. Conclusion: just play the drums
Guitar is just harder tho like it hurts when you first start playing especially on an accoustoc and most people couldn’t even make a nice noise if they never picked up a guitar
It's harder to play guitar if you play easy pieces on both instruments, but just try to play the hardest guitar piece and concerto for solo piano 1st movement Op. 39 No. 8 allegro assai by Ch. V. Alkan
I believe there is no such thing as an instrument being harder than another. Playing a note on guitar is harder then playing the same note on piano. But you can play things on the piano that are imposibble to play on guitar so there is just the same learning curve for both.
Beeing able to play the piano is easy, beeing able to really PLAY the piano on a high level is hard as fuck. Classical piano has some of the hardest repertoire.
As a semi good guitar player who tried to learn the piano- no Sir, you're wrong. If any halfwit Chad can play Wonderwall on a guitar, than this is an instrument for the masses.
@@OjasBhatnagar-d1b I do. I play the guitar and the piano both for more than 15 years and try to master both. The repertoire on the piano is harder yes but imo the techniques of the guitar through all the different genres can be very challenging and makes the instrument harder overall
They should just combine the two and put the keys of a piano on the body of a guitar. A 'Key-tar", if you will
thats a thing. and its awesome.
Wow! That's deep, man.
dude i play one they're sick
there's the opposite of that which is guitar strings on a "piano" body and it's called a a harpeji
it actually exist lol
True.. except the whole "shapes" idea on guitar is a superpower of the instrument. If I want to play in something that's in E in F.. I just move every note up 1. Or use a Capo. But a pianist has to transpose every sharp and flat carefully. Their finger positions literally change. I can play in any key on the guitar because the shapes are the same. A pianist has to learn them all separately.
Yeah, I play both and I find guitar wayyy easier if I’m playing with someone else, cause i can just shift the whole thing without doing mental math
Exactly, you can't just move the same shapes up on piano.
It's fairly easy depending on what you're playing, chords are easy asf to transpose on piano, but an actual piece takes a lot of work
Yes thats how it is at first. then you realize everything you play sounds the same because those shapes are neither musically nor harmonically intuitive or interesting. Inversions, Intervals, triads, voice leading are for a Lot of guutarists foreign concepts.
But then you never learn the actual notes.
If you're a strummer, guitar is good for your confidence. Most people don't notice a wrong strummed chord, but a bad note on a piano can really stand out.
That’s the thing on guitar, if you make a mistake and you hide it well then no one will hear it, piano isn’t that forgiving
True for playing chords, but if you are playing a melody or riff on guitar and you play the wrong string, I think it’s even worse than piano XD
Not necessarily true. On the piano, with a piece that has dense textures, you can get away with a few wrong notes.
@@theancientone1616true though especially when you play fingerstyle or lead
@@subzerokosnot true. If your intonation sucks have fun playing melody. It won't happen. Being a decent woodworker is as much the job of s guitar player as being a player.
We're obsessed with wood type, pickup type, string guage, etc
Great video but everything is easy after playing the triangle
strongest shape. hardest instrument.
it took me a year to learn that thing
Only a year? Are you some type of savant or something?
@@GutenTag25 How?? You must be a genius to learn triangle in just a year
@@proturtle8715is triangle really that hard?
A piano objectively tastes better than a guitar from my personal experience
I beg to differ
If you say "objetively" you can't then say "from my personal experience". They are opposite concepts.
@@aATENEA well in my personal opinion, you’re objectively wrong
touché @@phoebusapollo8365
Holy smokes, I didn't know thats how they're used.
I've been playing songs on them for so long.
Both are top tier instrument but it is harder to master the piano than guitar while piano is much easier to start with.
That isn't true. To master any instrument is to play it at the highest level and requires intense dedication whether it is piano, guitar, xylophone, violin, recorder or voice, there is not a point where you stop and say okay, I've mastered this.
lol so biased
I disagree. I would say they are probably equally diffucult to master. Look at Joe Satriani, Tim Henson, Ichika Nito...
@@matotuHELL Tim Henson ? Lol look at youtube there are dozens of random guys cover Playing God better or nearly as good as him. Once you have all the basic technique down and perfect you can play 99% all the song out there . That's why there are so many good guitars players on youtube, they must be out number the good piano players on this platform at least 10 to 1.
@@matotuHELLnot possible, piano is well over difficult to master it, and every guitarist knows that. If you play like a professional, with all emotions, pedals… there are no comparison
I play both. Started off on guitar and then learned piano. Have to say piano taught me more in 1 year about music theory than I ever got from playing guitar. Everything made sense and actually made me a better guitar player for the new understanding too
Bro has never played chopin etudes 💀
thats so real
guitar also has wonderwall
Piano has Für Elise ;)
Trombone has when Mom isn't home
Plus oven door
My dad has a belt
Piano has... all the things
As a piano player, I was always hella frustrated with finger positioning on the guitar. Like, when you play the piano, of course, you can hit a wrong key or accidentally slip and hit two keys at once, but that's fairly easy to control, even when you're playing fast. With guitars on the other hand, if you dare move your finger tip half a millimeter off the center of the fret - you get a pathetic messy fart instead of a clean note. And you're supposed to play chords, not just single notes. I can play pretty complex stuff on the piano, but when it comes to the guitar, anything that's harder than a bar chord will be a nightmare for me.
played both, cant play neither well, can confirm
Piano also has the status advantage.
Person plays the guitar: hey, that's cool. Can you play song X?
Person plays the piano: holy shit! They must be a musical genious!!
This absolutely happens with the piano too bro.
If you play something:
"Omg that's so cool, can you play Golden Hour/Rush E...?"
If you play classical:
"Omg that's so cool, do you know any 'real songs?' "
In a band context, if the singer says "hey, my voice is kind of tired. Let's do the next one in G," that's not really that hard on guitar, even if you don't know a lot about how the shapes might change. Meanwhile, there's no capo big enough to fit around a piano.
I saw a video where a violinist says to change the scale of the song to a pianist, and the pianist changes the scale just like that! My mind was blown. Wonder how much practice it takes to get to that level.
@@gokulhemanthkumar4556 just basically know all chord progression and scales, which is a lot but not impossible.
Transpose
the guitarist: *moves capo*
pianist: *counts keys up or down with each chord, frantically trying to keep up with the band*
If you're in a band and have a pianist, one of two things is almost certainly true. You're either financially successful enough to travel with a real piano, meaning you have a professional pianist who transposes on the fly like that without thinking, or you fit the 95% scenario of a band with a keyboardist who can either do that or simply press a transpose button. The bottom line is that it's going to be really, really hard to find a band where this is a problem.
I play guitar. Piano is something I really want to learn but keep putting off for one reason or another. And I'm pretty sure I'll struggle harder in piano than I do on guitar simply because my brain is incapable of moving any two of my limbs independently. Guitar requires both hands to be in time always, but your two piano hands could be doing two very different things and the ability to do that seems like a superpower to me. Massive respect to piano players (and drummers)
I wasn't convinced until the last point.
Piano is definitely a better instrument for learning about music notation and music theory in general, as each symbol corresponds to one note (unlike guitar, where you can play the same note on multiple strings). This, among other reasons (such as no need for callouses) is why I think anyone interested in learning an instrument should start on piano if they can. Then again, the size of a guitar makes it feel so much more manageable, so it might be tough to convince people about this.
True. You can learn pretty much any instrument just by knowing or atleast understanding piano
When I was learning piano I started to get interested in learning guitar too, and whenever I looked up online which was easier they always said "Guitar is much easier". I got a guitar and, for me at least, that couldn't be more wrong.
Yeah guitar is so much easier
Guitar is so much easier to donate when you cannot learn it.
Found your channel yesterday, proud to say just watched all your animations! Keep up the good work!
That muscle memory thing is so true, whenever im done with learning a piece on piano and start learning a new one i forget the old one immediately, but i never forget the bass line of a song
Meanwhile Me unable to play the piano for 5 Years and able to play the Guitar in just 8 months
And another thing is that I feel guitar and more versatile when it comes to the feeling you want to make in your music.
A piano guy I played with said it's harder to emulate the rhythmic things you can do on guitar so that's probably it. You can only push keys on the piano but guitar has other stuff like muting and harmonics
Different instruments different struggles
1. always keep a keyboard / piano with you as a reference, even if you are learning guitar. 2. Guitar seems harder than piano because notes are a mess, not laid out in a linear fashion. So starting is harder. But over time, as your muscles start to remember notes, guitar actually becomes easier than piano - at the end of the day you are training one hand vs both (independently) on piano, and add feet too to make it even more complex.
These videos are so concise.
Combined keyboard/piano
Kept acoustics/electric guitars seperate
1:42 💥 🔥 🤯 🌹
I play both at jazz level, more guitar, and I agree. If you're trying to match a melody piano is way easier as you just change inversion. Piano it's all easily spelled out. I just figured out why a guitar song works by playing on piano and seeing the voice leading. The same voice leading to make the melody on guitar often requires you to play chords in different places on the neck to achieve the same thing. I know a chunk of music theory and chords are more of a black box on guitar since the spread of notes is less clear. I view guitar chords as a unit in this fingering is this sound profile more than individual notes. Piano the spelling is very clear and you have 100% control over the spread of notes all the time.
Strummers on guitar and guitarist are not the same thing please don't confuse the two, finger style guitarists are on a different level of musicality
When I was casually learning piano, I used to just plink away on keys and feel like I was doing some cool stuff, and now that I'm casually learning guitar every other time I play something it sounds awful and I have to google something like "why does my guitar sound bad" and it'll be like "you should move closer / further from the fret" or "your other finger should have been muting this completely unrelated string" or whatever lol.
That said, the portability is definitely the reason I've practiced so much more guitar!! And it's very satisfying when something finally sounds good
I think a case for guitar can be made due to the fact that scales are the same no matter what (excluding the weird B string interval difference). A major scale is a major scale with the same shape all around the neck whereas for piano you have to kinda think about it. Also the fact that you have to worry about two separate lines on piano whereas for guitar, although picking more complicated parts can be challenging, you're still playing one unified line.
If you are picking, yes. But on classical guitar you can play multiple lines as well just like a piano.
I mean, tbh there are styles outside of picking. Carter style, fingerstyle, percussive, etc. A lot of soloists pieces have all the bass+main melody+ treble.
If you're a guitar player, get a keyboard as well. Just a cheap Casio or Yamaha. Even if the aim isn't to master piano or to perform with it, it is still so useful just for understanding musical concepts or for song writing. I use a keyboard all the time for trying stuff out like creating a pretty bad backing for my guitar playing or trying out a bassline against chords. You don't have to play it well for it be useful and sometimes coming up with an idea on keyboard can be great when you transfer it to guitar because it can break you out of making things up based on familiar shapes.
bro's like IceCreamSandwich (youtube animator), super halarious but your videos actually have some great info about guitar/music. keep it up, your videos always make my day! 😂
Basically: Piano is easy to play but hard to master and guitar is hard to play but easy to master
Nearly all instruments are hard to master. The thing that changes is the expectation. The more capable an instrument is, the more you're expected to be able to do with it. The only instrument that would be easy to master would be one which couldn't be played substantially better after a short learning period.
Easy to master?
but if you master piano its much easier to master guitar
been a guitarist for almost 18 years without knowing theory, only now i have decided to learn things and also learn the piano, and its so much easier to match chords and voice leading, and i can write the guitar and baselines all together in a way that is theoretically right
Soooooo your music ia dope af... i'm newly obsessed... and these videos are hilariously entertaining and educational. Your personality/sense of humor is literally perfect! I literally cant!
Guitar is one of the most difficult instruments if you push your playing.
Cuz it's very unstable from take to take, pretty much like vocals.
Piano or drums, for example, are much more stable and predictible.
Polyrhythm.
This is THE video I needed. I was pretty confident playing the piano, but after 3 years of having moved abroad, my skills of playing vanished. Now it‘s time to bring them back^_^
So, I bought a guitar, and it… it feels like a completely different world, I love it 😂❤
As someone who has played both this video is too real. Its so much easier to learn music theory on a piano 💀
It's really the repertoire that makes piano a difficult instrument to master. As a pianist you are often a bit of a one-person orchestra and people also know to expect that from you. But of course there are some really amazing and difficult things to do that you can do as a solo guitarist too. I would say that learning and memorization of piano repertoire generally takes more time than guitar repertoire but they can both be extremely demanding technically. Guitar can be a much more expressive instrument and producing a good sound takes a lot more effort.
“i won’t elaborate” ya know what… i respect it.
As a pianist, nope. Piano is much harder to master, the technique is ridiculously difficult when you get to very technical pieces, making you literally rethink every wrist rotation, arm movement, dynamics etc. But i do agree that for learning music theory is easier
To play guitar at the highest level you have to think every single note through including wrist rotation, arm movements, how far along the string you are going to pluck it to get the right tone, how to ensure other strings are dampened (or left to ring). Really no instrument is harder to master than any other, all virtuosos are performing at the limits of human ability.
@@vodkaman1970no piano is well over difficult to master it with the independence of the hands … the 3 pedals… it would be easier to master guitar than piano if you took 1000 people.
@@zoteck9177 There doesn't come a point where anyone truly masters an instrument, so no, piano is not more intrinsically difficult to master than guitar. There is always something more demanding to tackle and the people who are at the highest level of playing on any instrument are all pushing at the limit of what is humanly possible.
Yeah as someone who plays both, piano is much more difficult. The repertoire alone is insanely more difficult than anything on guitar. People that don’t play the piano don’t realise, but it’s much more than just playing the right notes. Everything from voicing, dynamics, rotation of the wrist, tone quality, speed at which you press the notes, pressure behind the fingers when pressing the notes, along with all the musical aspects such as rubato and feeling, plus with the pedal, piano definitely makes for the more challenging instrument.
@@ldgaming4213 That is another thing. Piano is almost an emulation of an orchestra. In classical music, when you delve deep into music theory, you can vary the tone quality of your some of your notes to almost emulate the timbre of an instrument in an orchestra, for example you may have some high notes that feel quite energetic so you press the note quicker to highlight the energetic feel and emulate a piercing flute sound, whereas you may have some more deep, bass notes which you emulate a brass instrument by pressing the key slower but still maintaining the weight behind your finger. It’s all about varying the emotion, making it interesting for the audience.
As for your second point, I agree. Just because you are pushing a recorder to its absolute maximum doesn’t mean it is harder than another instrument.
While it may sound like I always think piano is harder, I don’t - I do think guitar is harder to pick up. With piano, it’s pretty easy to play a chord, but it’s much harder to get the shapes on the guitar and strum correctly. I also think piano is easier to pick up music theory with. But, like violin, I think guitar is an instrument that is hard to begin with, but gets progressively easier over time as you get better. However, I think the piano is the opposite - easy to pick up and begin with, but as you progress, it keeps getting harder as new techniques are added and new things to think of are introduced.
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That’s an understatement… piano is sitting on a beach with a drink in your hand. Guitar is getting kicked in the balls while throwing up and having diarrhea.
The piano is relatively straitforward when it comes to getting the sound that you want out of it. The hard part is learning other peoples rythem and paterns. I was able to get a relitively good grasp on it in around three months.
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I've been playing jazz piano for about 9 years but also started learning guitar/electric guitar because it seems like the closest instrument we can get to the most objectively best instrument.
Harmonically you can play complex chords (compared against monophonic instruments), less steep learning curve when learning chords because of similar hand shapes, melodically you can make it sing similar to a human voice with vibrato and good phrasing and sliding, rhythm guitar can provide a pulse similar to drums, the ability to play bass/chords/melody/rhythm at the same time, it spans 4 (or 5) octaves, super extensive repertoire of many many genres even across time and countries, portable especially if you get the mini 6 string guitars, pedals allow for endless tones and effects, more affordable, lastly and least importantly most people enjoy guitar.
I'm still trying to figure out which has a higher skill cap, like how long would it take to play like Steve Vai or Franz Liszt?
"a campfire" oh... one of those.
I too as a 3 year old created many catchy tunes
On piano and not guitar right?
Hey you touched on something but I just wanted to double down on it - the piano muscle memory you refer to. It's because finger shapes and movements differ from key to key to key. On piano, it's easy enough to play a C scale - hit all the white notes. But move over just one semitone and play C# ... well now there are some white notes you can't hit and some black notes that you must. Completely different shape. Times 12. Times another 12 for each mode, if that's your poison. Some are easier and some are harder, but they are all a bit different. On guitar, the same shapes apply across all keys - learn them once and you're done.
Played guitar for 9 years. I'd say guitar is not hard for the reasons you mentioned. Finger dexsterity, especially for the left hand, gives guitar its difficulty later on. I would say piano is easier to pick up but harder to master because piano players have to control up to ten fingers and play many notes at once, while guitar players only use 8 fingers and usually stick to 1-3 notes at a time even at a high level.
ive been playing the piano since i was ten (now 35). im no pro by all means and quit piano lessons when i was 18 and played it very occasionally since then.
i started guitar just for fun a few years back but got really invested like a month ago or so and my progression leaped since then. both instruments have their pro and cons but for me the biggest pros for the guitar are: i love the sound, you can manipulate the sound by choosing a pick or fingers (my preferred method) and you can play it literally anywhere you want.
got a baby taylor and i just love to practice while laying in bed. such a cool instrument ❤
“Guitar is harder than piano” tf it is! Guitar is wayyyyyyyy easier than piano
as a pianist i still can't play the guitar :(
The learning curve for piano is easier but its harder than guitar if you want to reach an advance level
Piano is easy to learn but hard to master. Guitar is hard to learn but.... ahhh never mind it's still hard to master
Day 1 of playing the guitar: "I am gonna become a great player!!
15 days into playing the guitar: "WHAT THE FU-!?!?!"
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Really depends on what you want to play, piano can definitely be hardd
Every instrument requires big amounts of skill and training to master.
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Music theory is the exact same whether it's on a piano or a guitar...
Also playing two easy chords with different rhythms using both hands on piano is way harder than playing an intricate chord on guitar. You should try it. Guitar is ez, you just learn what chord shapes are and get away with that.
It depends on, if you consider all the possibilities, piano is extremely harder than guitar, but just pressing the keys is easier than playing guitar
As a metal player, yes, yes it is
bro both are of the different world,
try La Campanella on the guitar.
Ive been playing guitar longer than piano, currently i conisder guitar harder. I find the whole technical stuff reaaaally difficult to learn. At least with piano you dont have to think about muting strings while playing
That doesn't mean it's easy.
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Guitar finger placements are super difficult for me.
I like them both, but for the most part, I play totally different music on each. He's right about music theory, but understanding one does help a lot with the other. Bottom line: the piano is the best all around instrument, but the guitar is the coolest and most fun.
Depends on the type of music you're playing tbh
I don't think a guitar solo from a 1970s peice of music is comparable to one written for the piano a hundred or two hundred years earlier
If you were to compare classical guitar to classical piano on the other hand, or contemporary piano to contemporary guitar, the argument becomes clearer
Me when i spent my whole 6 years to play mozart on piano 🙂
Piano clan stay strong!
Btw, I love both instruments :)
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But piano is better ( obviously )
Playing guitar is actually easier for me than Piano is lol
Whoa we heard redlight sing again… yk what that means let’s all beg him to release another song
I play both guitar and piano well, but guitar often feels harder, because, when pressing bars, my fingers often touch other strings making them unable to produce sound and that makes my fingerstyle sound worse. Also, I am not always able to play barre chords.
Both these things do not take place in playing piano: you just press a key, and a sound produces.
On the other hand, I almost cannot play piano with my eyes closed, which I can easily do with guitar. Playing chord songs is easier on guitar.
I've seen way more people master guitars than piano. Plus piano music theory is terrifying.
The argument about translating muscle memory for one song to another is not valid. That depends entirely on the nature of the music. If we're talking about playing accompanying guitar chords and having that translate between songs, then the same thing applies to piano. That translates immediately. But if we're talking about playing classical guitar music, then there is a lot of muscle memory that musicians develop uniquely for each piece. Some things translate, like arpeggios, scales and other common patterns, and that applies to piano as well.
I think arguing that piano muscle memory translates less quickly is apples to oranges. People saying that must be comparing completely different types of music.
Music composed for piano is usually easier on piano. Music composed for guitar is usually easier on guitar
Wait till dis guy discoverers Liszt, I’m a classical pianist so we’re talking different genres here, and it’s very different from pop, much harder and way more fun (and torturous)
Girls don't love pianists, they love guitarists.
nah girls love your ability to play their favourite song. It doesn’t matter what instrument 💀
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As a piano player piano is one of the easiest to learn but to master it is very very hard. Violin probs the hardest instrument to learn and master
0:36 as an expert guitar masher that doesn't know how to play it I have to disagree on this. Mashing guitar sounds much better than mashing piano
Both of you are wrong (kinda)
For the piano, you can't just mash keys and expect it to sound good, you'll need to learn scales, chords, inversions, progressions, etc...
With that being said, you can say the same thing for guitars, and learning scales on a guitar is without a doubt harder
HOWEVER it's a lot easier in guitar to improv chords because you can literally hold a barre/power chord and just go up and down the scale without thinking much.
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@shalev550prod when i played random notes on guitar and i didnt know any scales it sounded pretty good
@@tails_show_tv that's because you're built different
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As someone who plays both...
Yes.
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I heard someone put it quite well imo: “Piano is easier to learn than guitar but harder to master.”
Guitar is just harder tho like it hurts when you first start playing especially on an accoustoc and most people couldn’t even make a nice noise if they never picked up a guitar
As a sax player, they're both really hard to me still
i always thought that the piano is the easiest instrument cuz its the most logical. i mean, press the key and boom - there is the note
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If Chopin and Liszt are easy i'm literally done.
After going to guitar school for 10 years, I'm going for 10 years piano now. 🤗
10years of guitar school?
You know you gonna need to get a REAL job a some point..
It's harder to play guitar if you play easy pieces on both instruments, but just try to play the hardest guitar piece and concerto for solo piano 1st movement Op. 39 No. 8 allegro assai by Ch. V. Alkan
Piano is harder.. guitar is way easier
I believe there is no such thing as an instrument being harder than another. Playing a note on guitar is harder then playing the same note on piano. But you can play things on the piano that are imposibble to play on guitar so there is just the same learning curve for both.
You are spot on. At the highest levels of playing, every instrument is pushing the human body to the limits.
@@vodkaman1970 absolutely
Beeing able to play the piano is easy, beeing able to really PLAY the piano on a high level is hard as fuck. Classical piano has some of the hardest repertoire.
As a semi good guitar player who tried to learn the piano- no Sir, you're wrong. If any halfwit Chad can play Wonderwall on a guitar, than this is an instrument for the masses.
You’re really taking wonderwall as an example? 😂 If you just want to play some basic pop songs guitar is easier yes but if you want to master it, no.
@@sp9459 try mastering piano, try taking twinkle twinkle little star as ur first piece and see what its like to learn idk la campanella or scarbo
@@OjasBhatnagar-d1b I do. I play the guitar and the piano both for more than 15 years and try to master both. The repertoire on the piano is harder yes but imo the techniques of the guitar through all the different genres can be very challenging and makes the instrument harder overall
Piano is easier to play... But much harder to play properly