Well done and very informative! I’m about to install a set of these & wondered about those 1meg pots. Think I’ll go the same rout you went. Sounds about perfect to me. Thanks for the info and the honesty.
I used the Fender kit and diagram, choosing the 'Vintage' over the rest of Noiseless because of the rated output being lower and I needed non-staggered posts for a 1989 Korean 12" radius neck. The sound is true Strat and mellow, sweet. MUCH BETTER than the original Korean electronics. Yeah . . . I spent close to $300 fixing a $65 beat up Korean Strat, but that neck made it all worth it. Never had a Strat neck play as good as this Korean one.
Sounds great Jack! I know this video is a few years old now but I'm just wondering if this would benefit the fender HOT noiseless and what's your recommendation for pots value and caps with such a setup? Thanks for all your excellent informative videos. 👍
Thanks for this man, you really helped. I have a couple guitars with those pickups and I'm thinking that they're good pickups that are not set up correctly and I think you're on the right track.
Great experience. Thank you for sharing this info. Clears up a lot! Right now I'm on the market for the "noseless" guitar, either strat of traditional humbucker-equiped guitar. Your video was a great helper.
@@JackFossett I just got an ultra luxe which have the vintage noiseless I believe. I do enjoy the noiseless aspect but they just seem to be lacking something. I’m been looking at pre wired pick guards and found this video. Tone-Specific pickups seem great…but over priced. I have a set of mojotone 58 quiet coils in my squier and like those. What’s your choice for an around $300 prewired pickguard set?
Thanks for posting this, I've been a tad skeptical on the Noiseless Pickups but hate EMG's cause you can not Eric Johnson wire them so they are limited as well as Tone Cap locked. I hate the 60 Cycle Hum but I can see the Where the Wiring Mod does indeed make a Difference. PIO Caps are Warmer by using the .1uf gives it a more full body sound then the std .047 Caps even in PIO, and Orange Drops, The 500k Pots with that yeah I agree with that as well. Since you mention Bourns Seymour Duncan YJM Friction-less are made by Bourns... So I know have a plan for my 54 Reissue Strat.
Clapton has a TBX circuit and a db boost along with the pickups. It leads me to believe that with the stock wiring that they are designed to sound more like ‘vintage Strat pickups’ with some kind of preamp...maybe?
And on further inspection, the magnets are AlNiCo 2, which are warmer. I think Fender compensated with the 1meg pots. Personally, since I'm currently not a gigging muscian, I can get 'close enough' tone with them.
Thanks for a great demonstration of these pickups with the Tone Man Guitar harness. Your dynamic playing really showed off the different positions very well. I think those pickups sound genuine in every position whether clean, dirty or crunchy. Did you have Gary add a treble bleed circuit to the new harness? I did not see one in the picture of the harness. Thanks, again!
Mark Hughett thanks! He can add anything to a custom order - not sure if the treble bleed comes stock in anything but I’m sure he’d add one in for you if you want it
Hi! I was about to do that same wiring with a set of 4th gen fender pickups. My qoncern now is which capacitor value should I use for the tone pot. Which value did you choose?
Questions?? Why the 500k pots? And why the different wiring harness again? And where do you get these upgrades;and is it a one stop shop? Gen 4 pickups?? And explain what you upgraded 1 meg to?
@@jessereyna7408 Tone Man Guitar makes this harness, you can order it from his website. Can't speak to the generation, these are Vintage Noiseless. The only other Fender Noiseless I've tried are Samarian Cobalt which I didn't care for.
The pots were necessary because of the types of pickups these are (being actual humbuckers) -- the tuning pegs was just because I prefer this style better.
Thanks...I'm going to put some of these in and greatly appreciate the feedback. I went ahead and picked up some 500k pots and an orange drop cap. How did you set your pickup height?
Original video of guitar with stock 1meg CTS pots, and treble bleed mod. - ruclips.net/video/GTDtbead35c/видео.htmlsi=SNb68HNKDLUBtUfV I own a 2016 Fender Players strat with these same Fender Vintage Noiseless pickups, and to my ear both, the guitar in the original video and my Players Strat sound harsher than the guitar above with 500k pots and .1 uf PIO caps.
Thank's for this video my friend. I have this same set, but I found them to have lower output compared to my stock MIM pickups. All the pots are 250K. If I change the volume pot for 500k would think that can "fix it"? The tone knobs I'll leave with 250k because I think more would sound too bright for me. By the way, how high you set your pickups? God bless you!
So I don't believe higher value pots will increase your output. Setting the pickups closer to the strings will work better for more volume. And thanks!
Well done and very informative! I’m about to install a set of these & wondered about those 1meg pots. Think I’ll go the same rout you went. Sounds about perfect to me. Thanks for the info and the honesty.
I used the Fender kit and diagram, choosing the 'Vintage' over the rest of Noiseless because of the rated output being lower and I needed non-staggered posts for a 1989 Korean 12" radius neck.
The sound is true Strat and mellow, sweet. MUCH BETTER than the original Korean electronics.
Yeah . . . I spent close to $300 fixing a $65 beat up Korean Strat, but that neck made it all worth it. Never had a Strat neck play as good as this Korean one.
That's the way strat must sound! Bravo! I did the same thing with my MIM Classic 50's strat!
Sounds great Jack! I know this video is a few years old now but I'm just wondering if this would benefit the fender HOT noiseless and what's your recommendation for pots value and caps with such a setup? Thanks for all your excellent informative videos. 👍
Thanks for this man, you really helped. I have a couple guitars with those pickups and I'm thinking that they're good pickups that are not set up correctly and I think you're on the right track.
I do have to say that it sounds pretty clear and awesome my friend!! And you play very well.
Thanks for posting Toneman is the best
Great experience. Thank you for sharing this info. Clears up a lot! Right now I'm on the market for the "noseless" guitar, either strat of traditional humbucker-equiped guitar. Your video was a great helper.
Glad it was helpful!
Muito bom amigo jack, uso os meus assim tambem, 500k em todos os pots ficou top !👏👏👏
Jack, I would like to hear your opinion... These pickups with cts 250k pots and 0.22 capacitor?
Well these sound really good, but maybe slightly hot for what I'm looking for. The first "riff" at the end is beautiful!!
Yeah - vintage noiseless are a lot better than the hate they receive, but that being said, there are still much better pickup sets out there
@@JackFossett I just got an ultra luxe which have the vintage noiseless I believe. I do enjoy the noiseless aspect but they just seem to be lacking something.
I’m been looking at pre wired pick guards and found this video.
Tone-Specific pickups seem great…but over priced. I have a set of mojotone 58 quiet coils in my squier and like those.
What’s your choice for an around $300 prewired pickguard set?
Thanks for posting this, I've been a tad skeptical on the Noiseless Pickups but hate EMG's cause you can not Eric Johnson wire them so they are limited as well as Tone Cap locked. I hate the 60 Cycle Hum but I can see the Where the Wiring Mod does indeed make a Difference.
PIO Caps are Warmer by using the .1uf gives it a more full body sound then the std .047 Caps even in PIO, and Orange Drops, The 500k Pots with that yeah I agree with that as well. Since you mention Bourns Seymour Duncan YJM Friction-less are made by Bourns... So I know have a plan for my 54 Reissue Strat.
Olá vc usou qual numeração de capacitor ?
Clapton has a TBX circuit and a db boost along with the pickups. It leads me to believe that with the stock wiring that they are designed to sound more like ‘vintage Strat pickups’ with some kind of preamp...maybe?
And on further inspection, the magnets are AlNiCo 2, which are warmer. I think Fender compensated with the 1meg pots. Personally, since I'm currently not a gigging muscian, I can get 'close enough' tone with them.
can anyone tell how to install these vintage noiseless pickups
Excellent, Thanks for this video !
My pleasure!
Thanks for a great demonstration of these pickups with the Tone Man Guitar harness. Your dynamic playing really showed off the different positions very well. I think those pickups sound genuine in every position whether clean, dirty or crunchy. Did you have Gary add a treble bleed circuit to the new harness? I did not see one in the picture of the harness. Thanks, again!
Mark Hughett thanks! He can add anything to a custom order - not sure if the treble bleed comes stock in anything but I’m sure he’d add one in for you if you want it
Hi! I was about to do that same wiring with a set of 4th gen fender pickups. My qoncern now is which capacitor value should I use for the tone pot. Which value did you choose?
Sergio Fdez 500k across the board works best in my opinion
Questions?? Why the 500k pots? And why the different wiring harness again? And where do you get these upgrades;and is it a one stop shop? Gen 4 pickups?? And explain what you upgraded 1 meg to?
The 500k pots just seem to suit the pickups well. Just enough treble without being too much.
Can you response to these questions please;because I am getting a Fender Strat Deluxe;and I’d like to get this done to my guitar perhaps? Thanks Jack.
@@jessereyna7408 Tone Man Guitar makes this harness, you can order it from his website. Can't speak to the generation, these are Vintage Noiseless. The only other Fender Noiseless I've tried are Samarian Cobalt which I didn't care for.
Cool! for you, which is bether, vintage noiseless or hot noiseless?
Of all Fender's noiseless pickups that I've played, the vintage noiseless are my favorite
Why was it necessary to change the tuning heads along with the 500k pots?
The pots were necessary because of the types of pickups these are (being actual humbuckers) -- the tuning pegs was just because I prefer this style better.
Can you post a link to where we can buy this harness? THX!
www.tonemanguitar.com/store/p144/The_Blues_64_Strat_Wiring_Harness_Kit_Vintage_Paper_In_Oil_Tone_Cap_Cloth_wiring.html#/ -- just specify 500k pots
INCREDIBLE!!!
Did you end up using the treble bleed circuit?
Yes I did
Thanks...I'm going to put some of these in and greatly appreciate the feedback. I went ahead and picked up some 500k pots and an orange drop cap. How did you set your pickup height?
Steve Eitner pretty average - maybe slightly lower than usual. That’s really going to be more just personal preference
Thanks Jack..great playing by the way.
Steve Eitner thanks!
Original video of guitar with stock 1meg CTS pots, and treble bleed mod. - ruclips.net/video/GTDtbead35c/видео.htmlsi=SNb68HNKDLUBtUfV
I own a 2016 Fender Players strat with these same Fender Vintage Noiseless pickups, and to my ear both, the guitar in the original video and my Players Strat sound harsher than the guitar above with 500k pots and .1 uf PIO caps.
Thank's for this video my friend. I have this same set, but I found them to have lower output compared to my stock MIM pickups. All the pots are 250K. If I change the volume pot for 500k would think that can "fix it"? The tone knobs I'll leave with 250k because I think more would sound too bright for me. By the way, how high you set your pickups? God bless you!
So I don't believe higher value pots will increase your output. Setting the pickups closer to the strings will work better for more volume. And thanks!
The video is only an opinion review. I expected a hands-on how to wire video.
Ok 🍻