@@OldCurmudgeon3DP I was actually trying to figure out just who this printer is for. Anyone getting into this hobby isn't going to drop $3,500 to test it out. There's lower cost printers that do the same for a very small fraction of this cost. Sure its nicer looking and is its own enclosure but you can accomplish the same under $500. With the extra $3000 saved you can buy all the filament currently available. You'd then need a room to store it in which might be a issue.
@@josiahong5177 my comment was an approximation (I used words like "should be"). It's hard for many companies to hit target dates, so it's not uncommon to have dates that have a cushion in them, in case the supply chain mess from covid causes delays
This is something you really could see in schools, and the price seems affordable compared to what i've heard schools are using in my area(DK) I totally like the enclosure and how filament is stored, and the fact that it is a dual extrusion printer just makes it really useful for many scenarios. Great unboxing video there Joel !
I'm a diehard Creality guy, but that thing is SCHWEEEET! Nice prints right out of the box and it looks like it's built like a tank. I like it, Joel! Looks like an ABS printing monster.
Raft recommendation for mirror print is most likely because they probably disable mesh leveling since both extruders are always at the same height and thus can't compensate for the bed leveling for different parts of the bed simultaneously. What would be a great feature is if the prints print independently until they reach their "feather" height where both prints should now be at the same height and then both print at the same time from there on out.
Hey Joel, Would it be possible to get a 1 year update on this printer? I'm looking at buying one and was curious what kind of upkeep/ maintenance you've had to do on it and how much you like it now.
I am glad you had success with this printer. I bought one and have yet to have a single successful print, after about 50 tries and running the on-screen calibration process about 15 times. It is just JUNK in my opinion. I an not a printer novice. In fact, this is my sixth printer and the worst, by far. I think that sometimes engineers and marketers try to 'improve' and automate what really does not need to be changed. I have a Pro2 Plus and it has never had a single print fail, whether with TPU, ASA, PLA or PETG. Because I make a lot of little parts for motorcycles and outdoor equipment, I thought the IDEX would save me some time. No. This system has only caused me frustration and massive time and money loss. I just wanted to comment on this since I feel a lot of your viewers base their choices on your excellent results. Your reviews are awesome. Your content and variety great. Thank you.
One of the things that's holding me back to buy one right now is the fact that in this price range, I would expect a build plate that's only moving in the Z direction (and have the XY plane at fixed height).
I assume you heated the build plate for the PLA prints? Do you think that all doors can be closed when printing PLA without heating the build plate? I would like to purchase the printer for our office and therefore we need to be able to close all the doors.
I print ABS at 235 on the Pro2 (MatterHackers ABS) to minimize temperature difference and thus warping. Higher temps (250+) tended to scorch, and 235 to 240 was the sweet spot.
They updated the spool holders to something that can pull the filament more efficiently, so that's good. They added auto tramming because a perfectly flat and level bed is usually expensive and heavy, and firmware compensation is comparatively easy.
WOW!! Omg! Love the unboxing action!! XD The only thing left is to add the necessary explosions! Oh, and don't forget not looking at the explosions! XD
And another point i knew that dose not care anybody in this traget segment: But the Printer looks really gerate! In Germany there is a saying: The eye eats with! And this printer looks ultra Professional! From the Lid open mechanism to the Touchscreen well Designed!
Great editting Sean! It also appears they made that movie specifically for Joel, remembering the red clamps from that RoboR2 epic video (still can't stop laughing).
want to see prints with support material, that's the main reason I have for a dual extruder , independent heads. and how it handles it. thanks for the review
I hope the hotend cooling is improved from the Pro2. I had some jams with PLA, the door open, and the top removed (tiny heatsink attached with a grub screw... I should add thermal grease). So, only the Prusa does non ABS prints at the office.
Great video and thanks for doing what you do! Would you be able to test print NylonX and ABS material using support material such as Ionic? I like the idea of this printer, especially having a heat controlled enclosure. This could be a cheeper alternative to a Stratasys printer
Cool looking printer with a lot to offer in one package. I would like to see you mix in some flexible filament when you test printers. Testing (5) different company's PLA seems overkill. Thank you for your channel. I look forward to more great content each week.
Great video Joel. I want to see a full review of this printer. I want to see how creative you can be with a dual extruder printer as well. What does it offer the user vs a single extruder printer. Info like that. Thanks for sharing.
Enjoyed the review. I understand where they are selling and I guess the price reflects the needed accompaniments IE filtered enclosure, safety options ect. I don't quite get the leveling. For something so fundamentally important to the task. Each extruder should know where it's nozzle is in relation to the bed with user fine tuning at that price. That's my opinion. I welcome yours.
Does lowering the bed temperature (maybe after the first few millimeters) allow large parts to be printed in PLA with the top closed? I'm considering the E2, but my wife can get a little concerned about particles. The HEPA filter is pointless if the lid is open.
Nice First Look. I like the comment about trust. A high-end machine like this would be perfect for some higher-end technical materials. I’d love to see you tackle some CF Nylon (perhaps Atomic filament).
Thanks for the great review (as always). But what about water soluble supports?! You mainly printed single filament (or mirroring) on a dual extruder/idex printer. What sensible guy would print two colors? That isn't nearly enough colors to make anything look good, you have to paint stuff to make it look good. At least in my view. So, I'd like to see how this printer handles water soluble supports and filament. Keep it up, you're awesome!
Replying to my own comment... But this is what I'd like to see you print: 3d.si.edu/object/3d/tyrannosaurus-rex:d8c62d28-4ebc-11ea-b77f-2e728ce88125 This is a real challenge. But it's such a cool scan. And it's so cool that the Smithsonian are actually sharing their 3D scans. There are so many 3D scans done by museums and scientists. And they never share them. It's such a waste. So please make an effort on printing this. I bought a (much cheaper) idex printer to be able to print this scan. Prove to me that this printer at 8x the price does the job better than mine! :-)
I've been looking for a machine with many of these same features. This machine looks pretty fantastic, but I decided to save myself two grand and "roll the dice" on a QIDI X-Max. The IDEX system is great, but it's not a necessity for me, which is seemingly the main difference between the two machines, aside from a likely step up in build quality for the Raise3D.
I may an outlier in your viewership here, but the concept of dual, independently driven extruders is new to me. Wanted to see how it was all mechanically put together, and you kind of glossed over it. The enclosure hides a lot about how it works. Want to see what different materials in the same layer. Perhaps make a thing with a hard PLA core with a soft TPU shell? Perhaps make the hair of a Hairy Lion a different material than the body?
@@3DPrintingNerd Oh, I am just lazy. A few seconds of googling shows the stacked dual belts. That protective wall is a great idea for slicing. Hmmm... may try using something like that for mid-print filament changes.
Hey Joel! I just bought one of these, and it arrived Tuesday! Neat machine so far but I'm having a huge issue with slop in the linear bushings. Left extruder is sorta loud, right extruder can be heard through a closed door in the other room and sounds like a gravel crusher at some speeds. Have you had any such issues with yours? This is quite a bit louder than I was expecting. Should have added- I stripped off the extruders to get to just the bushing assembly itself to prove that it's the source of the noise. Left has a little play, right has a lot. I'm an engineer too and these aren't supposed to be sloppy. Defeats the whole point. It's as if it's out of tolerance.
@@3DPrintingNerd thanks for the response! Have done and they're actually sending me a new one as of last night. Something about a small batch that might have gotten incorrect stepper motors. I know a loose bushing when I see it, but I wouldn't know their correct vs incorrect motors. Hopefully the new one fixes all issues!
Could you please explain what you like about the cloud aspect in 3d printing? Slicing doesnt take that many resources, the files arent that big and if you want to connect to the outside web for camera access or even full control you can use OctoPrint Overall the usual cloud stuff can easily be done via a Raspberry Pi and you dont run the risk of the company folding and all your data being gone/your 3d printer being a massive brick
You had a very cool video about this printer fron an convention(?) or something, but I can't find it again, did you delete or hide that video? (when the raise3d people left the stand, and you played with the E2)
Nice, but I would have liked to see testing of a wider variety of filaments. Testing various brands of PLA is fine, but I think someone who's looking to buy a printer at that price will want to see how decent it performs with PC, nylon, other mechanical types of filaments and even wood and metal composites.
Thank you so much for sharing your professional views of this mysterious 3D printing world. I am a online retailer and try to make a new small kitchen product will be made of silicone. I have been trying to find a best fit printer under $1000 for TPE filament. I have tried a lot of the cheap printer, but all prints were not working as real products. I even tried Prusa MK3s, but the results are still not that ideal. Can you please give me some advice on what the most suitable printer for soft TPE like 85A is.
@@3DPrintingNerd Thanks Joel. It's not a cheap printer so hoping I don't regret. Already have plenty of Prusas, Flashforge, Zortrax and others but always missed by original N1 and N2. BTW, love your channel and you are a member of my Raise3D FB group (y)
There are only so many low priced machines out there. Most of them are just clones of clones and nothing new. Its unfortunate but its what it is right now. If you know of a machine that is new, and has something cool about it, thats low priced, reach out and see if you can get it reviewed.
I think that's fair to say. I have been able to showcase some really cool high-end stuff. I've had a LOT of feedback from people saying how it's cool to see. Don't worry, we have some very affordable things coming up :)
@@3DPrintingNerd fair point. It's interesting for me as a: Wow, that's a chunk of dough for not much more than my Ender3, or a 5 or CR10, can do. I get it though. A Pallet 2 or MMU2 are fiddly to tune and not for those who need to plug it in and go.
@@3DPrintingNerd hey Joel, no hard feelings, it was just an observation. I understand that you are a large channel and are trying to chase new and interesting content. I guess it's also just me being a bit jealous that companies aren't giving me 5-10 thousand dollar machines to play with.😢🤑 haha. You are doing a great job!
Nerd Dude, Just love the raise3d printers, when there tuned right the print quality is fantastic, personal not a big fan if the IDEX Systems on any brand, it's like baby sitting a child, turn your head for a min and boon stuff happens, not always good stuff tho!!! Hi Five and thanks for sharing!!!
Dad's Friendly Robot Company it really wasn’t “crashing” - that looked to me to be the BLTouch-like Auto bed leveling sensor used with the latest (well newer) firmware that has configurable “number of points to use for auto-leveling”.
Also at least previous machines stole from the hobby by using proprietary builds of Marlin without contributing any of the modified code back to the community. I don't know whether this machine will repeat that pattern.
I am looking at upgrading to a new printer and a dual independent extruder is at the top of my list. Joel How do you think this printer compares to others?
Hello, I'm learning from your videos. I haven't seen anyone (including Raise3D) mention installation space for the E2. Meaning, what is the minimum depth (front to back) of a bench to hold this printer? Does is need additional airflow space that is behind it (if so, now much) or can be up against a wall behind it? I see you need 8" on either side for the spool doors. Thanks.
Here is the machine dimensions. 23.9×23.5×18.3 inch / 607×596×465 mm It'll fit on a 24" deep bench, and that's where I have mine. It should have *some* additional space behind it, but, it's not a metric where they specifiy. I would suggest a couple inches. Yeah, spool doors are on the side, and they require some spaces to open. I hope this helps.
@@3DPrintingNerd Thanks. I found a sketch of the back in their quick start guide and it shows the power cord plugs into the back bottom so that will add another 2" at least. I also heard the top cover takes encroaches into the space behind the printer when opened. Do you know how much? By the way, yeah you are taller in person than in your videos! Too funny. You really notice it when you met the folks at Raise3D in Irvine.
I have a Tronxy and Ender 3 that both do just as well the Tronxy even has dual switching extruders. And yes before anyone says it the a modified and tweaked other than frame not much is original. However I still have no where near 3500 invested in the combined pair. Most of the printers you see on these channels are out of reach for your everyday user.
@@damo2142 you miss the point of these types of printers. Of course you can diy something as good or better for less. That's true of most things. You can build a car faster and better handling than a Ferrari for far less. But some people don't have the time to do the research and diy things. So a company can charge a premium for something that works really well with no fuss.
@@3-E I agree and there is a market for whatever you want and can afford. I was just stating a fact that expensive does not always mean better. However using your analogy of a Ferrari. Do you want a Ferrari or an excellent handling car because I can build an excellent handling car but not a Ferrari. I think to say 3500 is an excellent price is relative depending on what you are comparing.
That's not surprising - that's just fantastic. It's great that you have the expertise and know-how to keep that machine in tip-top shape! Have you reached out to local schools or educational facilities to see if they could make use of your knowledge?
Could you explain bed leveling a little? I hear some where just lets software know where high and low spaces are. Some where you manually adjust with screws. So auto mesh bed leveling is which type?
Hi Joel, Do you still have this printer? If so, how has it been working out for you? I purchased this printer last month and I've been trying to use it for 2-3 weeks now, and its been nothing but problems. Head crashes, cannot calibrate, runout sensors not working, ideamaker software problems, etc. They tried to re-flash the printer motor controller and main controller. Still can't get this printer to work reliably. I currently have 10+ tickets open, just wondering if you had similar issues. Thanks, Matt
Totally agree. At this price range it's going to be printing more of those kind of things and I really wish he would have shown more of those materials. I disagree with his assessment that it be printing mostly PLA.
Been waiting for this to show up for a review, I am seriously thinking of this machine, the PRO was also in my sights I would have liked to have known how it performed with PVA supports or petg supports with pla, I print usable objects and functional objects to help others who have physical limitations, I struggle with PVA at moment and looking seriously at a viable Dual Head machine. I like a machine to be Quiet I was going to get E3D Tool changer but to noisy.
one of the issues i'm finding with 3D printing is that the machines that are most user/beginner friendly also tend to be the most expensive. this is exactly what i wanted when i first began looking for a 3D printer, but with a pricepoint like that, well...an ender 3 has one less zero on the tag...
I'm thinking about buying a 3D printer. Speed isn't discussed much. Are there standards to use to compare printers? Is it possible to make money prototyping and making custom parts or does that require very expensive machines?
What I want to see is not a particular model being built, but rather something about troubleshooting and maintenance. Specifically, will the user have to learn how to disassemble (and reassemble) the machine? For example, what happens if one of the extruders gets clogged? I've been using a Prusa MK3s, and it worked well until I got a filament jam. Reading the instructions for removing and repairing and reinstalling the hotted made me want to cry. With poor eyesight, I'm just not able to complete such a process. I need a 3D printer for making mathematical models, and the printer I get has to either come with on-site service OR must simply never break. Also, I need to decide between this machine and an Ultimaker S3. Comparison?
I didn't experience any non-user introduced clogs in my testing. I know Raise3D has telephone support, and I've called it before. I think if a user ran into a clog, support would follow steps to get it cleared.
@@3DPrintingNerd Thank you for your reply! My problem with the Prusa MK3S is that I am not able to follow the standard instructions to disassemble, repair and reassemble the printer when, as recently happened, the hot end is so badly clogged that it cannot be fixed without removing it from the unit. When I buy a TIG welder or a rotary saw, I do not expect to disassemble them if anything goes wrong. Rather, I would send such items to a repair station or use whatever provision the manufacturer has made. But with many hobby-grade 3D printers, and certainly with the Prusa, that is apparently not an option. In the case of a TIG welder, I would be able to, say. take the ground lead off, check it for damage or corrosion and replace it. I could even do somewhat more complex repairs on a TIG torch. But I am never going to take the case off and try to fix a board level problem -- even though I. have extensive experience with electronics. It is just too risky and time-consuming for me to repair a deep problem in an expensive piece of equipment. My point is that I want to buy a 3D printer that is intrinsically reliable and also has a way to get repaired by the manufacturer or service center. I do not mind paying prices above hobby level for a 3D printer, like that but I won't buy another one that I am expected to perform complex repairs on -- though simple routine maintenance is fine.
Great review, thanks :-) How would you say this compares to the Ultimaker S3, in terms of quality and accuracy of prints? I'm looking to buy a new machine, and currently the S3 and E2 are my two front runners. Thanks
I have 2 and they are worth the money, reliable and Nick replies to any questions within 12 hours
That faux carbon with red accents... this machine is my aesthetic.
Looks like a Microwave Oven
It does look tough! They could brand it the "Black Widow."
@@GarthVader68 your microwave is faux carbon fiber? where can I buy one!?
GnuReligion might as well call it the widow maker. If husbands bought this their wives would kill them
It looks similar to a ThinPad or ThinkCentre. This black and red combination is just a timeless, awesome combination.
I like the detail on the touch screen, with the visual instructions, step by step. Flexible filament would be nice to see, like the Ninjaflex.
that unboxing deserved a like :)
Jacob Shore well thank you!
definently
Looks like a microwave. How long before the wife notices this on the counter in the kitchen?
Forever in my case. Not my cup of tea.
@@OldCurmudgeon3DP I was actually trying to figure out just who this printer is for. Anyone getting into this hobby isn't going to drop $3,500 to test it out. There's lower cost printers that do the same for a very small fraction of this cost. Sure its nicer looking and is its own enclosure but you can accomplish the same under $500. With the extra $3000 saved you can buy all the filament currently available. You'd then need a room to store it in which might be a issue.
"Tea, Earl Grey, Hot"
@@tinkerduck1373 Green Tea with honey, hot.
Too bad it's doesn't make the *ding* sound when it's finished...
I would be interested in seeing how it prints structural parts. A filament containing carbon fiber, Kevlar or fiberglass would be a good test.
Now they are releasing a $4,500 version of this one that can print PA-CF. Should be released towards the end of Nov 2021
@@Hangs4Fun huh, got released earlier than that.
@@josiahong5177 my comment was an approximation (I used words like "should be"). It's hard for many companies to hit target dates, so it's not uncommon to have dates that have a cushion in them, in case the supply chain mess from covid causes delays
@@Hangs4Fun I know. Just noticed the time you wrote the comment.
SEAN ... LOVED THE BLACK KNIGHT .. NONE SHALL PASS !
3D JIMMY thanks!
This is something you really could see in schools, and the price seems affordable compared to what i've heard schools are using in my area(DK)
I totally like the enclosure and how filament is stored, and the fact that it is a dual extrusion printer just makes it really useful for many scenarios.
Great unboxing video there Joel !
Thank you!
Without a doubt, the most interesting unboxing I've ever seen...
I'm a diehard Creality guy, but that thing is SCHWEEEET! Nice prints right out of the box and it looks like it's built like a tank. I like it, Joel! Looks like an ABS printing monster.
12:49 - for those that want to loop the hands clip 😂
This is epic!
I got an ad for this printer prior to watching this video. Nice printer. I wish I could afford it.
Raft recommendation for mirror print is most likely because they probably disable mesh leveling since both extruders are always at the same height and thus can't compensate for the bed leveling for different parts of the bed simultaneously. What would be a great feature is if the prints print independently until they reach their "feather" height where both prints should now be at the same height and then both print at the same time from there on out.
Hey Joel, Would it be possible to get a 1 year update on this printer? I'm looking at buying one and was curious what kind of upkeep/ maintenance you've had to do on it and how much you like it now.
I have this E2 and agree this is a super machine. The Raise is like a Swiss watch where my other printer is like a train locomotive.
Just watched the first minute. Bravo to Sean! That was awesome. OK. Gotta go watch the rest of the video now.
He killed it with that edit right??
I am glad you had success with this printer. I bought one and have yet to have a single successful print, after about 50 tries and running the on-screen calibration process about 15 times. It is just JUNK in my opinion. I an not a printer novice. In fact, this is my sixth printer and the worst, by far. I think that sometimes engineers and marketers try to 'improve' and automate what really does not need to be changed. I have a Pro2 Plus and it has never had a single print fail, whether with TPU, ASA, PLA or PETG. Because I make a lot of little parts for motorcycles and outdoor equipment, I thought the IDEX would save me some time. No. This system has only caused me frustration and massive time and money loss. I just wanted to comment on this since I feel a lot of your viewers base their choices on your excellent results.
Your reviews are awesome. Your content and variety great. Thank you.
I have a Raise3d N2 and I love it. They are great printers.
This machine has a nice set of features. I would consider buying it at some point. You have provided a nice tour of this printer.
One of the things that's holding me back to buy one right now is the fact that in this price range, I would expect a build plate that's only moving in the Z direction (and have the XY plane at fixed height).
Thanks for savoring the peelies
I assume you heated the build plate for the PLA prints? Do you think that all doors can be closed when printing PLA without heating the build plate? I would like to purchase the printer for our office and therefore we need to be able to close all the doors.
I found a palette plus! I got it a couple days ago, and I already have some good ideas of new prints. Thanks Joel.
I print ABS at 235 on the Pro2 (MatterHackers ABS) to minimize temperature difference and thus warping. Higher temps (250+) tended to scorch, and 235 to 240 was the sweet spot.
They updated the spool holders to something that can pull the filament more efficiently, so that's good. They added auto tramming because a perfectly flat and level bed is usually expensive and heavy, and firmware compensation is comparatively easy.
WOW!! Omg! Love the unboxing action!! XD
The only thing left is to add the necessary explosions! Oh, and don't forget not looking at the explosions! XD
And another point i knew that dose not care anybody in this traget segment: But the Printer looks really gerate! In Germany there is a saying: The eye eats with! And this printer looks ultra Professional! From the Lid open mechanism to the Touchscreen well Designed!
Glad you put back the PTFE tube after trying to load the filament without it.
18:45 the phrase all creators shout with happiness whenever we print functional parts 😆😆😆😆
E2 3D that name almost rings a bell....
Hello, is the printer better than bambolab x1 c?
Great editting Sean! It also appears they made that movie specifically for Joel, remembering the red clamps from that RoboR2 epic video (still can't stop laughing).
Vincent Groenewold thanks for watching!
I had the same exact issue with a different vase and my non Raise3D printer.
Hello, really good review. Would you recommend the E2 over the Pro2 for ABS?
That is a nice looking machine!
want to see prints with support material, that's the main reason I have for a dual extruder , independent heads. and how it handles it. thanks for the review
I hope the hotend cooling is improved from the Pro2. I had some jams with PLA, the door open, and the top removed (tiny heatsink attached with a grub screw... I should add thermal grease). So, only the Prusa does non ABS prints at the office.
Whoa, that is one really nice looking printer.
Great video and thanks for doing what you do! Would you be able to test print NylonX and ABS material using support material such as Ionic? I like the idea of this printer, especially having a heat controlled enclosure. This could be a cheeper alternative to a Stratasys printer
Comment after comment, I see the same. I too was like, a $3,500 printer like that is going to be used for a lot more than just PLA.
"PLA is the easiest to print [material]"
minutes later: "we'll talk about why I've had problems printing PLA on this machine"
ouch
It’s the easiest to print, though as I’m sure you know, I’m not the smartest ;)
@@3DPrintingNerd I was trying to make it more of a criticism of the machine than anything else.
@@JeffDM why is it a criticism, if you have had bad experiences with this machine tell us, before we might go ahead and buy.. Id like to know..
@@JeffDM Indeed, Ive definitely never live adjusted first layer height for bed adhesion purposes on any other machine with abl /s
Oh I have - most Prusa owners do as well by slightly adjusting the Z during printing.
That's one solid looking unit! Nice and user friendly too!
Great vid Joel, good work Sean
Cool looking printer with a lot to offer in one package. I would like to see you mix in some flexible filament when you test printers. Testing (5) different company's PLA seems overkill.
Thank you for your channel. I look forward to more great content each week.
Great video Joel. I want to see a full review of this printer. I want to see how creative you can be with a dual extruder printer as well. What does it offer the user vs a single extruder printer. Info like that. Thanks for sharing.
Enjoyed the review. I understand where they are selling and I guess the price reflects the needed accompaniments IE filtered enclosure, safety options ect. I don't quite get the leveling. For something so fundamentally important to the task. Each extruder should know where it's nozzle is in relation to the bed with user fine tuning at that price. That's my opinion. I welcome yours.
Does lowering the bed temperature (maybe after the first few millimeters) allow large parts to be printed in PLA with the top closed? I'm considering the E2, but my wife can get a little concerned about particles. The HEPA filter is pointless if the lid is open.
A pair of bike pedals with NylonX would be cool
A fair price for a large enclosed printer with dual independent extruders
amazing... try putting two olsson ruby nozzles on this thing and printing in for example two different carbon fiber filaments!
Does this not come with hardened nozzles already??
Nice First Look. I like the comment about trust. A high-end machine like this would be perfect for some higher-end technical materials. I’d love to see you tackle some CF Nylon (perhaps Atomic filament).
So another great video Joel you mentioned there was a camera inside but never explained its use
Thanks for the great review (as always).
But what about water soluble supports?!
You mainly printed single filament (or mirroring) on a dual extruder/idex printer.
What sensible guy would print two colors? That isn't nearly enough colors to make anything look good, you have to paint stuff to make it look good.
At least in my view.
So, I'd like to see how this printer handles water soluble supports and filament.
Keep it up, you're awesome!
Replying to my own comment...
But this is what I'd like to see you print:
3d.si.edu/object/3d/tyrannosaurus-rex:d8c62d28-4ebc-11ea-b77f-2e728ce88125
This is a real challenge. But it's such a cool scan.
And it's so cool that the Smithsonian are actually sharing their 3D scans. There are so many 3D scans done by museums and scientists. And they never share them. It's such a waste. So please make an effort on printing this. I bought a (much cheaper) idex printer to be able to print this scan. Prove to me that this printer at 8x the price does the job better than mine! :-)
You can get 20x30x40 cm DLP printed for 1/2 of cost. Worth thinking about.
Raise3D is a great company that stands behind its product. Looking forward to seeing this, and their future printers perform in the wild.
I've been looking for a machine with many of these same features. This machine looks pretty fantastic, but I decided to save myself two grand and "roll the dice" on a QIDI X-Max. The IDEX system is great, but it's not a necessity for me, which is seemingly the main difference between the two machines, aside from a likely step up in build quality for the Raise3D.
I may an outlier in your viewership here, but the concept of dual, independently driven extruders is new to me. Wanted to see how it was all mechanically put together, and you kind of glossed over it. The enclosure hides a lot about how it works. Want to see what different materials in the same layer. Perhaps make a thing with a hard PLA core with a soft TPU shell? Perhaps make the hair of a Hairy Lion a different material than the body?
The IDEX stuff is super cool, and thanks for the suggestion of highlighting it. I'll see what I can do for a deeper dive!
@@3DPrintingNerd Oh, I am just lazy. A few seconds of googling shows the stacked dual belts. That protective wall is a great idea for slicing. Hmmm... may try using something like that for mid-print filament changes.
Thank you
I got Bibo2 after long evaluation
Tested only ABS and works great. I don't see much review about this but I feel it is worth the price
@3d printing nerd for printing vase in video you can increase extrusion line width for sections of print where slope is very high
Hey Joel! I just bought one of these, and it arrived Tuesday! Neat machine so far but I'm having a huge issue with slop in the linear bushings. Left extruder is sorta loud, right extruder can be heard through a closed door in the other room and sounds like a gravel crusher at some speeds. Have you had any such issues with yours? This is quite a bit louder than I was expecting.
Should have added- I stripped off the extruders to get to just the bushing assembly itself to prove that it's the source of the noise. Left has a little play, right has a lot. I'm an engineer too and these aren't supposed to be sloppy. Defeats the whole point. It's as if it's out of tolerance.
WHOA. No, that shouldn't be the case at all. Mine aren't sloppy, yours should not be either. I would put in a call.
@@3DPrintingNerd thanks for the response! Have done and they're actually sending me a new one as of last night. Something about a small batch that might have gotten incorrect stepper motors. I know a loose bushing when I see it, but I wouldn't know their correct vs incorrect motors. Hopefully the new one fixes all issues!
Could you please explain what you like about the cloud aspect in 3d printing?
Slicing doesnt take that many resources, the files arent that big and if you want to connect to the outside web for camera access or even full control you can use OctoPrint
Overall the usual cloud stuff can easily be done via a Raspberry Pi and you dont run the risk of the company folding and all your data being gone/your 3d printer being a massive brick
You had a very cool video about this printer fron an convention(?) or something, but I can't find it again, did you delete or hide that video? (when the raise3d people left the stand, and you played with the E2)
I would like to see some prints with PVA and difficult support testing with this machine. Sorry, I didnt see the link in the description below.
Nice, but I would have liked to see testing of a wider variety of filaments. Testing various brands of PLA is fine, but I think someone who's looking to buy a printer at that price will want to see how decent it performs with PC, nylon, other mechanical types of filaments and even wood and metal composites.
Agreed, which is why this was just a first look. More printing is happening and that’s why I mentioned that thing towards the end :)
The carbon fiber patterned vinyl wrap on the front panels is _a bit much,_ but it seems like a pretty nice printer.
Thank you so much for sharing your professional views of this mysterious 3D printing world. I am a online retailer and try to make a new small kitchen product will be made of silicone. I have been trying to find a best fit printer under $1000 for TPE filament. I have tried a lot of the cheap printer, but all prints were not working as real products. I even tried Prusa MK3s, but the results are still not that ideal. Can you please give me some advice on what the most suitable printer for soft TPE like 85A is.
Could you make a test with Nylon? Awesome job!
How's the maintenance on this? I'm concerned about smooth rods. Those linear bushings usually have to be removed to pack with oil...
It better be good Joel. Just ordered one based on your recommendation :)
I’ve had A LOT of great prints from the E2 so far. It made hundreds of face shields. It prints PETG and ABS and PC-Max really well for me.
@@3DPrintingNerd Thanks Joel. It's not a cheap printer so hoping I don't regret. Already have plenty of Prusas, Flashforge, Zortrax and others but always missed by original N1 and N2. BTW, love your channel and you are a member of my Raise3D FB group (y)
This channel has gotten pricey!
There are only so many low priced machines out there. Most of them are just clones of clones and nothing new. Its unfortunate but its what it is right now. If you know of a machine that is new, and has something cool about it, thats low priced, reach out and see if you can get it reviewed.
I think that's fair to say. I have been able to showcase some really cool high-end stuff. I've had a LOT of feedback from people saying how it's cool to see. Don't worry, we have some very affordable things coming up :)
@@3DPrintingNerd fair point. It's interesting for me as a:
Wow, that's a chunk of dough for not much more than my Ender3, or a 5 or CR10, can do. I get it though. A Pallet 2 or MMU2 are fiddly to tune and not for those who need to plug it in and go.
@@3DPrintingNerd hey Joel, no hard feelings, it was just an observation. I understand that you are a large channel and are trying to chase new and interesting content. I guess it's also just me being a bit jealous that companies aren't giving me 5-10 thousand dollar machines to play with.😢🤑 haha. You are doing a great job!
Great print quality!
Nerd Dude, Just love the raise3d printers, when there tuned right the print quality is fantastic, personal not a big fan if the IDEX Systems on any brand, it's like baby sitting a child, turn your head for a min and boon stuff happens, not always good stuff tho!!! Hi Five and thanks for sharing!!!
For some reason every time I see that red Raise logo, I start searching the area for a secret stash of supplies. ;)
For $3,500 it needs to cook me a perfect omelet that looks like Mickey M. Geez! DEFINATELY not for the (this) hobbyist.
Especially if their means of leveling is literally crashing
Wait - crashing? I didn't see anything crashing during use. What did you see?
Dad's Friendly Robot Company it really wasn’t “crashing” - that looked to me to be the BLTouch-like Auto bed leveling sensor used with the latest (well newer) firmware that has configurable “number of points to use for auto-leveling”.
But they call it Precise, Reliable and AFFORDABLE lol.
Also at least previous machines stole from the hobby by using proprietary builds of Marlin without contributing any of the modified code back to the community. I don't know whether this machine will repeat that pattern.
they deliver it to me today !!!!!
I am looking at upgrading to a new printer and a dual independent extruder is at the top of my list. Joel How do you think this printer compares to others?
Nice looking printer. Interested in how print look..
Love the video. I would like to see what speeds the printer can print at with good quality. Seems most reviews never really test this.
Have you checked out the new silk filament? It is VERY shiny!
Hello, I'm learning from your videos. I haven't seen anyone (including Raise3D) mention installation space for the E2. Meaning, what is the minimum depth (front to back) of a bench to hold this printer? Does is need additional airflow space that is behind it (if so, now much) or can be up against a wall behind it? I see you need 8" on either side for the spool doors. Thanks.
Here is the machine dimensions. 23.9×23.5×18.3 inch / 607×596×465 mm
It'll fit on a 24" deep bench, and that's where I have mine. It should have *some* additional space behind it, but, it's not a metric where they specifiy. I would suggest a couple inches. Yeah, spool doors are on the side, and they require some spaces to open. I hope this helps.
@@3DPrintingNerd Thanks. I found a sketch of the back in their quick start guide and it shows the power cord plugs into the back bottom so that will add another 2" at least. I also heard the top cover takes encroaches into the space behind the printer when opened. Do you know how much? By the way, yeah you are taller in person than in your videos! Too funny. You really notice it when you met the folks at Raise3D in Irvine.
Surprisingly after so many years. My CR10 can still beat those expensive monsters on the printing quality.
As it came out of the box or after being tweaked, modified, upgraded?
I have a Tronxy and Ender 3 that both do just as well the Tronxy even has dual switching extruders. And yes before anyone says it the a modified and tweaked other than frame not much is original. However I still have no where near 3500 invested in the combined pair. Most of the printers you see on these channels are out of reach for your everyday user.
@@damo2142 you miss the point of these types of printers. Of course you can diy something as good or better for less. That's true of most things. You can build a car faster and better handling than a Ferrari for far less. But some people don't have the time to do the research and diy things. So a company can charge a premium for something that works really well with no fuss.
@@3-E I agree and there is a market for whatever you want and can afford. I was just stating a fact that expensive does not always mean better. However using your analogy of a Ferrari. Do you want a Ferrari or an excellent handling car because I can build an excellent handling car but not a Ferrari. I think to say 3500 is an excellent price is relative depending on what you are comparing.
That's not surprising - that's just fantastic. It's great that you have the expertise and know-how to keep that machine in tip-top shape! Have you reached out to local schools or educational facilities to see if they could make use of your knowledge?
Could you explain bed leveling a little? I hear some where just lets software know where high and low spaces are. Some where you manually adjust with screws. So auto mesh bed leveling is which type?
Great review Joel!
Hey, where is the video that shows you how to set the printer up for your print jobs?
That’s a monster and a half!
Looking great
Thanks for sharing👍😀
do you think for today. the E2 is still worth the money. I need a new 3d printer and was looking for it. Sry for my english. I am german
Hi Joel, Do you still have this printer? If so, how has it been working out for you? I purchased this printer last month and I've been trying to use it for 2-3 weeks now, and its been nothing but problems. Head crashes, cannot calibrate, runout sensors not working, ideamaker software problems, etc. They tried to re-flash the printer motor controller and main controller. Still can't get this printer to work reliably. I currently have 10+ tickets open, just wondering if you had similar issues. Thanks, Matt
I want one !! And the CF version too !! And the new Pro 3 !!! 😫
As a normal consumer in the 3d area, would you buy this for your hobby use? With business in mind for future use?
I would like to see it printing some parts with Pro Filaments like PA or something like that. Btw thanks for the great video - enjoyed it very much!
Totally agree. At this price range it's going to be printing more of those kind of things and I really wish he would have shown more of those materials. I disagree with his assessment that it be printing mostly PLA.
To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee:
"That's not a printer - THIS is a printer!"
Way to high for the hobby market though.
Thanks Joel and Sean!
Been waiting for this to show up for a review, I am seriously thinking of this machine, the PRO was also in my sights I would have liked to have known how it performed with PVA supports or petg supports with pla, I print usable objects and functional objects to help others who have physical limitations, I struggle with PVA at moment and looking seriously at a viable Dual Head machine. I like a machine to be Quiet I was going to get E3D Tool changer but to noisy.
one of the issues i'm finding with 3D printing is that the machines that are most user/beginner friendly also tend to be the most expensive. this is exactly what i wanted when i first began looking for a 3D printer, but with a pricepoint like that, well...an ender 3 has one less zero on the tag...
“Raise 3D E2 3D Printer” well that’s a mouthful. Try saying it fast three times.
I wished they made some single extruder machines for those with a lower budget.
I'm thinking about buying a 3D printer.
Speed isn't discussed much. Are there standards to use to compare printers? Is it possible to make money prototyping and making custom parts or does that require very expensive machines?
What I want to see is not a particular model being built, but rather something about troubleshooting and maintenance. Specifically, will the user have to learn how to disassemble (and reassemble) the machine? For example, what happens if one of the extruders gets clogged?
I've been using a Prusa MK3s, and it worked well until I got a filament jam. Reading the instructions for removing and repairing and reinstalling the hotted made me want to cry. With poor eyesight, I'm just not able to complete such a process. I need a 3D printer for making mathematical models, and the printer I get has to either come with on-site service OR must simply never break.
Also, I need to decide between this machine and an Ultimaker S3. Comparison?
I didn't experience any non-user introduced clogs in my testing. I know Raise3D has telephone support, and I've called it before. I think if a user ran into a clog, support would follow steps to get it cleared.
@@3DPrintingNerd Thank you for your reply! My problem with the Prusa MK3S is that I am not able to follow the standard instructions to disassemble, repair and reassemble the printer when, as recently happened, the hot end is so badly clogged that it cannot be fixed without removing it from the unit.
When I buy a TIG welder or a rotary saw, I do not expect to disassemble them if anything goes wrong. Rather, I would send such items to a repair station or use whatever provision the manufacturer has made. But with many hobby-grade 3D printers, and certainly with the Prusa, that is apparently not an option.
In the case of a TIG welder, I would be able to, say. take the ground lead off, check it for damage or corrosion and replace it. I could even do somewhat more complex repairs on a TIG torch. But I am never going to take the case off and try to fix a board level problem -- even though I. have extensive experience with electronics. It is just too risky and time-consuming for me to repair a deep problem in an expensive piece of equipment.
My point is that I want to buy a 3D printer that is intrinsically reliable and also has a way to get repaired by the manufacturer or service center. I do not mind paying prices above hobby level for a 3D printer, like that but I won't buy another one that I am expected to perform complex repairs on -- though simple routine maintenance is fine.
Nice review! Would be nice to see how it compares to the CraftBot IDEX machine.
We will be finding out!
Great reliable printer... changed the build plate to glass using 3DLAC... much better.
Great review, thanks :-)
How would you say this compares to the Ultimaker S3, in terms of quality and accuracy of prints?
I'm looking to buy a new machine, and currently the S3 and E2 are my two front runners.
Thanks