John Parrish it’s an art form that’s being lost as time goes on, thank goodness there’s a few old guys like me that can do it and enjoy it. Nothing better than well synchronized carbs all talking to each other.
Incorrect! 37, 33 in the 62 boby style, GTO's were built between 1962 and 64. The first production car serial # 3223GT had a factory 330 engine the rest were 250 engines. Two others were later fitted with 330 engines by their owners. So no 50 GTOs were NOT made.
and because they are limited to 2.4 liters. it's tough to get tons of torque out of an engine that small, so how do they get the 750 horsepower? By revving up to 18k rpm. simple formula here. Torque x Rpm / 5252. this will give you a rough number on how much HP an engine is producing at a given RPM. the newer engines next year will have heaps more torque but will rev to 'only' 15k rpm. still, you will see the straight line performance will remain equal if not better when coming out of a corner
Can a 4.0 from a 330 2+2 be modified to produce more hp and still maintain streetability? Everyone I've spoken to stated no and furthermore they argued mild modifications affect resale value?
@Bravo21 I know and understood all tha but the title of the video is "Ferrari 330 GTO Engine Dyno". Only THREE (I correct myself) Ferrari GTOs had a 330 engine. That is why I question the validity of this video. What are the odds this is one of those engines.
Awesomeman1987 I know, it's just easier to think of it as horsepower relative to engine speed because that makes it a bit easier to remember the conversion equations between torque and horsepower.
So take a 10 foot pipe and push on it with 100lbs, that's 1000ft/lb of torque. Now I'll take a turbine engine from an Abrams tank that only makes 350 or so ft/lbs of torque and we'll see if you or me hauls more ass in the tank.... Torque is a meaningless measure at an engine, unless you just want to know how hard you're hurting your engine.
What, you were all born stupid? Engines make torque, and the rate of "doing" torque through rpm determines horsepower. All dynamometers measure torque, and infer horsepower from the rpm. Now go back to your sandboxes.
330 refers to the displacement of each cylinder. In that case 330x12=3.960cc This is an almost 4.0 litre engine that produces 325 horsepower. Keep in mind, that engine is a modified version of the Colombo V12 that Ferrari made at that time. Also, those numbers from such a displacement in the '60s were insane, though it was made out of lightweight aluminium parts and the block was also aluminium.
Your Talon has a Turbo and forty years of engine technology over the Ferrari. The 330 was a bigger 250 (3.0l) that was designed in the fifties with pen and paper. These are outstanding numbers for the day. No American motor was pushing 325hp in those days. Nice cars, the DSM turbos. I saw 132mph in the Everglades in a rental one.
Are you under the impression that engine layout, or cylinder count directly relates to power output? Toyota Century V12, made in the 1990s only makes 300hp, and needs 5 liters to do so, what does that mean? BTW, when this engine was made, Nissan had to use a fucking Chevy V8 in their racecar, the P381, because nothing Nissan made produced more than 60hp..
Back then on those models, they were built for street usage and reliability and 330HP has very good in a 1900lbs sports car. Not to mention they were very light and small and a smmooottthhhh power band.. With a few modes you could double that easy!
You looked for the number of cylinders for the HP? Kid, if you're looking for HP, look instead at the engine displacement with its max RPM. Increased number of cylinders will only give you a slight potential in increasing HP, compared to an engine of the same displacement and max RPM. A 6.0 L V8 and a 6.0 L V12 "of the same design" will generally have the same torque rating and RPM rating. The v12 "may" have a tiny more HP at high rom because the 12 smaller cylinders will be able to pump a little bit more volume of air and gas per rev than 8 bigger cylinders. Just like a 16-valve 4 banger will flow more air than the old 8-valve design, thus gaining a few hp in high rpm. The drawback of a v12 compared to a v8 is that 12 tiny cylinder walls will create more frictional losses than 8 bigger cylinder walls as the piston slides up and down. Also generally, we want to maintain the 500 cc (.5 L) per cylinder rule for efficiency. That's why we don't see 6.0L V6 high revving engines.
Perfo. Turbocharged the amount of cylinders doesn't determine its horsepower. You can pull 600 hp out of an inline 4. You've also got to take into account that this is an engine from the 60s and for the day 330 horsepower was unheard of in a road car. Sure, the 330 P4 made more than 300 hp, but for a mid 60s street car, 300 hp was insane.
sounds beautiful, but you can buy an American pickup truck with more horsepower and a shit load more torque. An apples to oranges comparison, of course. The pickup will go 100k without touching the engine.
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They figured, "Ahhh, its a Ferrari. We won't bother measuring the torque."
Breathtaking sound!!!
Then why don't Formula 1 engines have alot of torque, because they're light.
Torque is only important in very heavy cars and trucks...
Almost 2 hp for every cubic inch displacement is amazing even today. I do pity the guy that has to adjust those 6 Weber carbs.
John Parrish it’s an art form that’s being lost as time goes on, thank goodness there’s a few old guys like me that can do it and enjoy it. Nothing better than well synchronized carbs all talking to each other.
And remember this engines is over 60 years old people!.
+Capri Driver 60 year old a ? this engine is now tunned a have only 330hp
GTR R35 NISMO TOP ! what is your point
Incorrect! 37, 33 in the 62 boby style, GTO's were built between 1962 and 64. The first production car serial # 3223GT had a factory 330 engine the rest were 250 engines. Two others were later fitted with 330 engines by their owners. So no 50 GTOs were NOT made.
and because they are limited to 2.4 liters. it's tough to get tons of torque out of an engine that small, so how do they get the 750 horsepower? By revving up to 18k rpm. simple formula here. Torque x Rpm / 5252. this will give you a rough number on how much HP an engine is producing at a given RPM. the newer engines next year will have heaps more torque but will rev to 'only' 15k rpm. still, you will see the straight line performance will remain equal if not better when coming out of a corner
Since there is only one 330 GTO in the world I question if this in fact the engine out of that car.
Wow i expected much more!
@Bravo21 The 330 engines in the GTOs would also be dry sump.
i got one very similar... alternator
Standard Delco 100AMP!
+vector6977 haha was a joke, nice engine
Lampredi big block...
4.4 liters in 365 form...
A la 365P2/3 of 1966..
420 hp...
How are they only making 300hp from a Ferrari v12. My 05 Tahoe makes about the same HP fully stock.
I liked that!
Is there an engine anywhere that sounds as GOOD as that! Oldskool V12. XXX
Can a 4.0 from a 330 2+2 be modified to produce more hp and still maintain streetability? Everyone I've spoken to stated no and furthermore they argued mild modifications affect resale value?
Seeing this brings back memories of rebuilding a 330GT engine from another shop....that "did their best" ;-/
Awesome. Could you please provide a link to some blueprints? Please?
ugh torque is very important, its what gets you off the line :P
@Bravo21 I know and understood all tha but the title of the video is "Ferrari 330 GTO Engine Dyno". Only THREE (I correct myself) Ferrari GTOs had a 330 engine. That is why I question the validity of this video. What are the odds this is one of those engines.
HP is a measure of torque related to time
nope
In the kinematic sense, yes. In the engine sense, it is a measure of torque related to rpm.
***** hey take it easy HP = RPM x TQ(ft-lb) / 5252
+Cameron Jenkins and what is rpm?... revolutions... per minute. That is still a function of time there captain.
Awesomeman1987 I know, it's just easier to think of it as horsepower relative to engine speed because that makes it a bit easier to remember the conversion equations between torque and horsepower.
hmm.... i thought there were only 3 ferarris named the GTO. The 250, 288, and the 599
330LMB
then why aren't diesel trucks in F1?
What kind of question was that supposed to be?
Where could you buy a ferrari v12?
Ebay, no joke.
Very hard to find an engine
People buy 250 2+2 GTE's to make fake GTO's and what not..
SAD...
I came with the force of 1,000 gods.
He's a cute lil guy!
torque is what you feel, HP is a conceptual measure
So take a 10 foot pipe and push on it with 100lbs, that's 1000ft/lb of torque. Now I'll take a turbine engine from an Abrams tank that only makes 350 or so ft/lbs of torque and we'll see if you or me hauls more ass in the tank....
Torque is a meaningless measure at an engine, unless you just want to know how hard you're hurting your engine.
TORQUE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE COMPENSATED BY GEAR RATIO. THERE IS NO COMPENSATION FOR LACK OF POWER
What, you were all born stupid? Engines make torque, and the rate of "doing" torque through rpm determines horsepower. All dynamometers measure torque, and infer horsepower from the rpm. Now go back to your sandboxes.
Who the fuck was learning how to dyno on this
the great torque lie :) Only the Horsepower/upm diagram is the real thing.
50 of them made
seems like a lot of cylinders for 330 hp, have a 4g63 in a talon that makes more than that with 4 cylinders
330 refers to the displacement of each cylinder. In that case
330x12=3.960cc
This is an almost 4.0 litre engine that produces 325 horsepower. Keep in mind, that engine is a modified version of the Colombo V12 that Ferrari made at that time. Also, those numbers from such a displacement in the '60s were insane, though it was made out of lightweight aluminium parts and the block was also aluminium.
Your Talon has a Turbo and forty years of engine technology over the Ferrari. The 330 was a bigger 250 (3.0l) that was designed in the fifties with pen and paper. These are outstanding numbers for the day. No American motor was pushing 325hp in those days. Nice cars, the DSM turbos. I saw 132mph in the Everglades in a rental one.
V12 Motor for a shitty 320HP ? fuck that
AUSTRALIAN Ford Barra four times the power 1 /16 th the price .
Windows XP . . . my goodness
Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races.
V12 a only 330hp ? ..lol
This engine is from the times that your daddy's car only had 55.
Are you under the impression that engine layout, or cylinder count directly relates to power output?
Toyota Century V12, made in the 1990s only makes 300hp, and needs 5 liters to do so, what does that mean?
BTW, when this engine was made, Nissan had to use a fucking Chevy V8 in their racecar, the P381, because nothing Nissan made produced more than 60hp..
Back then on those models, they were built for street usage and reliability and 330HP has very good in a 1900lbs sports car. Not to mention they were very light and small and a smmooottthhhh power band.. With a few modes you could double that easy!
You looked for the number of cylinders for the HP?
Kid, if you're looking for HP, look instead at the engine displacement with its max RPM.
Increased number of cylinders will only give you a slight potential in increasing HP, compared to an engine of the same displacement and max RPM.
A 6.0 L V8 and a 6.0 L V12 "of the same design" will generally have the same torque rating and RPM rating. The v12 "may" have a tiny more HP at high rom because the 12 smaller cylinders will be able to pump a little bit more volume of air and gas per rev than 8 bigger cylinders. Just like a 16-valve 4 banger will flow more air than the old 8-valve design, thus gaining a few hp in high rpm.
The drawback of a v12 compared to a v8 is that 12 tiny cylinder walls will create more frictional losses than 8 bigger cylinder walls as the piston slides up and down.
Also generally, we want to maintain the 500 cc (.5 L) per cylinder rule for efficiency. That's why we don't see 6.0L V6 high revving engines.
Perfo. Turbocharged the amount of cylinders doesn't determine its horsepower. You can pull 600 hp out of an inline 4. You've also got to take into account that this is an engine from the 60s and for the day 330 horsepower was unheard of in a road car. Sure, the 330 P4 made more than 300 hp, but for a mid 60s street car, 300 hp was insane.
sounds beautiful, but you can buy an American pickup truck with more horsepower and a shit load more torque. An apples to oranges comparison, of course. The pickup will go 100k without touching the engine.
lol fercrappies suck