update! all the videos and post she deleted were archived by w33w00. here they all are ;) drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IIDAGlZl3wMqwHNDqpZeJEBAc-ojhp7k?usp=drive_link
It’s the fact that zephy apologized for claiming Nai was ableist and homophobic but then it was found out that Nai had said offensive and homophobic things 💀
i still don't understand why the ableist accusation, I mean she never said that the people who appear in the video are autistic, TDAH, etc. It sounds really weird...
Ngl she gives the vibe of one of those mean girl types. I feel like there's probably a valid reason why the people at her art school don't like her humor lol
Didn't think it was that bad until i looked deeper into the account and realized how muchh different she draws herself and her friends, not that the art school students are "unconventionally attractive" it was the artstyle she used drawing them😭😭😭i thought ppl were salty bc the art school students aren't drawn like your average conventionally attractive tiktok influencers, ion think there's anything wrong about not fighting society's standards, coming from an ugly person or im possibly just desensitised
Funny trend in Manga, there's a decent percentage of Manga Artists Avatars are delightfully weird. Mushrooms, dogs and other funny designs. Heck, the creator of DBZ was a cute little robot.
@@frommi_and Video games Undertale, Toby Fox, with the white dog. I like funny/silly/grime avatars verses "too perfect". But as long as it's all in fun and games for the avatar, I don't have much to say.
my art is semi-realistic but i always feel the need to draw myself as cartoony and silly as possible. i feel like avatars are supposed to be how you feel, not exact representations of you as closely as possible--that would be a self portrait. but it's telling she sees herself as pretty and trendy and conventionally attractive while everyone that doesn't agree with her "humor" (it was probably slurs lets be real) as ugly caricatures like soyjacks
I’m trying to become the creator of an Indie animation show, and my sona is just a little blob with antlers and this face :3 Although who am I to talk? They’re still way hotter than me.
@@littleanimations4760 btw, pushing means nearing a certain age, for Nai, it's OVER 20 which is worse. 21 is still young but way too grown to be unnecessarily propping yourself up while degrading others for appearances
@@kishinumaayumi ah that makes sense but DAMN why she even acting like that at THAT age?? I get our brains don’t develop til we’re like 24-25 but this is just peaked in high school attitude yk? 🧍🏾
The fact that she responded “somehow they made them uglier than I did” to someone redrawing the characters in a nicer light really says all I need to hear in this conversation. And SHE posted it to her own story. Almost like she was bragging about the fact that she drew “ugly” characters, aka neurodivergent and queer people, and she got away with it. She’s definitely a mean girl, a bully, and I guarantee if she isn’t already phobic and ableist, she’s well on her way. She’s surrounded herself with yes men, and she’s clearly not changing. It’s not good to judge someone you don’t know, but at the same time, don’t we, as queers and neurodivergent people, HAVE to judge others for our own safety??? We HAVE to figure out if this person we’re talking to is unsafe, or if they’d be cruel to us. We can keep it alleged, sure, but we have to be safe. It’s also bad to stoop down to their level, but you gotta admit, the irony is there. She IS drawing a sort of… anti caricature of herself. I look exactly like the person in the middle, tooth gap and all, and it hurts to see myself in something someone else deems “negative” or “ugly.” I think the most fair way to get payback without being cruel is drawing her exactly how she looks. Seems fair to me. /hj It really seems like she’s just insecure and taking it out on people she sees as “uglier” or “lower” than her. Having insecurities about yourself is valid, and normal! but it ISNT okay to push your insecurities onto others. And she’s gotta learn one way or another, or we’ll just have another bigot floating around the internet. I’m sure we’ll see her again soon. For better or for worse. I hope we don’t see her at all though. Or anyone like her for that matter. Ofc we don’t have that kinda luck :( oh well. Also your sona is super duper lovely!!! Your style is so soft and the colors are really well done! :) loved this vid! You did great:)
@@TOMFOOLERY334because they are literally copy paste caricatures used to mock queer and neurodivergent people, have you’ve never seen those dumb soyjack memes ?
"Almost like she was bragging about the fact that she drew “ugly” characters, aka neurodivergent and queer people," Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud. Now we know what you really think of us.
@@TOMFOOLERY334 I think you’re worried about the wrong thing here. The people shes talking about and drawing here saw themselves in these characters she drew to be soyjacks, an insulting character based of of stereotypes. Including me! An alt and queer neurodivergent artist. Not every artist is going to be queer or neurodivergent, but enough queer and neurodivergent people relate to these characters that it’s heavily implied. Bigger people, alt dressing people, and “nerd” types who go to art school? And who don’t get this joke she’s making, a joke she’s used to making with a friend group that isn’t these specific kinds of people? She’s saying that these people are “others”, who aren’t like her and don’t get the joke. She’s clearly not very alt other than the artist bit, and even then the whole point of her video was showing how she ISNT like these other characters. If you get it, you get it, if you don’t, you don’t. That’s all I can say.
I almost guarantee the "joke" in question was something offensive, and when others gave them a weird look about being rude, they got upset and decided "oh they are just gross ugly weirdos" and made the post. They probably aren't used to being in an environment where this kind of hate and casual gross behavior isn't acceptable. I have sympathy for them, as most people who look and judge others like this are just taught to do so and think it's normal. But that doesn't excuse their behavior.
i dont think that video is inherently problematic, but i remember when i first saw it i was a bit wacked out 😭it just gives "im different than other art students cuz i'm funny and pretty 😘🤩" vibes 💀
Exacly man is a issue not everyone going to look good in a art school some people struggle be pretty and some are disabled and some are different and that’s ok but she doesn’t understand i hope she mature and change but the way she portray the people wasn’t that nice some think she doesn’t know what she doing some say she know what she doing but in the end of the way you should not portray like this
I think zeppy should NOT have apologized , they were trying to make minorities feel heard , and welcome . And the one video that did that people had an issue with it. I think that’s wrong. Cause personally as a disabled queer person, I could feel that the first TikTok was probably about me , which, was ickky, but I actually felt alot better seeing zeepys TikTok. And then people bashed them . This genuinely is actual behavior I get treated like. Especially cause my chronic illnesses( POTS) causes brain fog; so obv I’m a lil slow. And as a artist , I’m insecure about that fact behalf on other queer disabled people thank you zeppy Let the minority have somthing for once yall.
Fr!!! I felt so gaslit by everyone and this video until they had confirmation that it was transphobic/ableist etc. ig that's why stereotypes and coding can be so dangerous to the ppl these aweful caricatures target
Zeppy is so much nicer than me cause I woulda fought like nobody's business and probably made the situation worse lol. They are so goated for standing up on behalf of minorities even if they had to try and de-escalate the situation later 🗣‼️
thank you!!! this!! they werent even rude about it, they (zep) just spoke their truth (and what a lot of others were thinking) and left it at that. it isnt fair that gross behavior gets a better reaction than someone trying to stand up to it :(
I want to point out this reminds me of the animation controversy of how african/black people were drawn with exagorated big lips or women drawn insanly sexual in the early days of animation and guess what happened to those animation sterotypes nowerdays?
@@TravellerZasha if she HAD drawn a char with big lips or slanted eyes or any other racially stereotypical thing, it’d not only be a lot more obvious what her true meaning might have been with this “joke” and it’d be a much bigger problem. But you’re absolutely right, ultimately the energy she’s putting out is the same, just with neurodivergence and queerness instead of race. All of which are minorities. It also swings back around to the fact that normalization of “small jokes” against minorities can evolve to straight up phobia/ableism/racism, much like we see at the end of the video. You bring up a great point of proof as to why this normalization is so harmful! If this behavior was shunned as much as it should be, the minorities at the butt of the joke wouldn’t be seen as weird and wouldn’t be at risk of harm as much as we are with the past actions of art and animation (and film and games and…. real life.) I could argue all day that this issue is much bigger than just the art community, than just these specific minorities, and these “small jokes”. It’s real, it’s dangerous, and it’s happened before. We should nip it in the bud and spread awareness while we can! Thanks for your perspective and point!
Really feeling like that one apple jack quote rn. “actually I didn’t learn anything, I was right all along!” about this situation lol. Sometimes you can just tell someone is a mean girl, and after seeing those tweets I’m happy to have my confirmations true. Kinda reeks of 4chan too lmao
your drawing of the three art students was so cute and it’s so annoying you had to apologize (especially bc you were right!) as a art major she’d probably look down upon thanks for standing up for us :)
As an artist in art school, the OG poster reminded me of some similar people i know in the same major as me who are, essentially, “mean girls”. Their sense of humor leans towards making fun of people for being “annoying”, with their “annoying” traits often being common traits shared by neurodivergent people (being socially awkward, struggling to read the room, being overly blunt. In my school at least, the kinds of jokes that are seen as “unfunny” generally leans towards jokes steeped in misogyny, queerphobia, racism, etc, cause art students generally tend to lean towards being more leftist, so it calls into question what kind of jokes OP was making to be seen as unfunny by their peers.
I do see how people see how this could be offensive since usually that kind of style is made to make fun of queer or neurodivergent people thought I do think some people jumped the gun a little. And I think Niah constantly bringing up and prolonging the drama was unesery.
Maybe I’m desensitized from all the people being outed as pedophiles but I find it hard to muster up the energy to care about comparatively small stuff like this
@@amethystimagination3332 still okay to not like being made fun of. I mean, i feel the same way as you but logically just cause a minor bad thing isnt as important as a major bad thing doesnt mean people cant get upset.
I think my biggest thing about “small” stuff is that it can quickly snowball into legitimately dangerous stuff. Not saying this will happen to her, (though the Screenshots at the end are…. Pretty bad.), just in general, but one person “making jokes” about insulting people can attract actual bigots. And being in that environment will lead to more open insults towards minorities. They might start insulting different races along side the queers and neurotypicals, attracting Yahtzees, which do commit legitimate harm towards minority groups and POC. Pipelines like this are VERY real and VERY dangerous, and “small” behavior like this should really be nipped in the bud before they spiral out of control. It might not always happen, hell it might even be super rare, but if you could stop one ☝️ person from spiraling into bigotry, wouldn’t you wanna try? It wont always work to tell these people actual facts, but we can atleast try. At LEAST. Basically real harm can come from this behavior in time, and we should stop it before it gets to that point.
ok so for everyone confused, to sum it all up. she basically drew herself like “pretty epic normal sigma” and then drew the others like “ugly weird queers who missed my normal person joke” my guess is that she didn’t intend for this to go so awry (and maybe never intended it in a hostile or stereotypical manner at all) and was kinda subconsciously (aka unawarely) following the tiktok stigma of “queer = cringe” I honestly say how she went about the situation after was stranger than how it started but idk tho and some of these are just my guesses
I am an art major too! I love all my classmates, they’re all so talented and supportive to my extremely shy ass lmao. I’ve never really sat down to look at them and go “Oh they’re pretty” “Oh they’re ugly”, because why should I care? They’re my classmates, they’re my peers, they’re all so incredibly talented, and wonderful people. To judge them on looks alone or on if they have my same humor (which funnily enough they do) is just. Dumb.
Its so crazy for an art major to be like "the specific decisions i made in this piece of art aren't reflective of my intent or me as a person" uhhmmm thats literally how art is. You drew them a specific way for a specific reason, whether it's negative or positive stereotypes, they weren't drawn that way not to make fun of those specific people and people who are addressed by those stereotypes, so she has zero defense. Its obvious why she deleted all of it 👀
@@Bigmonkeysdancingmaybe because she liked joking about George Floyd and saying slurs and being on the spectrum and liked to talk about Jewish people and make mazis signs on Minecraft as if it was a aesthetic cute house block home 😭…those accusations are true
@Bigmonkeysdancing the soyjacks she drew tend to fall under those specific groups (lgbt, nuerodivergent, or generally ""woke"") and the way she depicts them sort of fuels this idea that she may be making those types of jokes in an environment where ppl can be particularly sensitive towards them (people who are often the butt of those jokes or simply don't like them bc they're offensive)
not saying that this IS true, it's just some fair speculation and we won't really know what the original artist was joking abt (probably just a case of "I'm pretty and funny and these other art students aren't!")
Not shocked that a girl who looks like sssniperwolf acts this way At this point i wouldn't be surprised is she went mask off and was just an openly terrible person because all the "it's not that big a deal" people wouldn't care
Og video aside what really angered me was her attitude afterwards towards the criticisms. She was making videos left and right basically being "oopsies why are yall sooo angry, its just a joke" and then liking all the comments that says she did absolutely nothing wrong. The fact that she felt no remorse or even care to reflect is crazy to me, and saying on her stories that "no matter how well you apologise or address smth someone will always be upset" is even more ridiculous bc its so clear she has no intention of apologising bc she thinks she has nothing to apologise for??? Maybe this is petty of me but i had to block her after that. I dont want to give this kind of artist ANY attention or traction to her videos not even hate man. its not worth it, better to let her fade into obscurity
This drama reminds me of those old gacha life where the main character look “cool, pretty, badass” while the haters or background character looks mid to make you gain sympathetic for the main character more 😭
Honestly theres a comment saying that "everyone can be an artist, even mean girls" and misa is a mean girl. The typical one that would shame people who are not similar to her, THAT mean girl
I remember seeing this tik took and being genuinely upset. It just... Why? The joke would have landed if she just made them look "😐". There was no point in making the art students the joke by making them ugly. I recently started going to an Artistic highschool (in italy it exists, it's difficult to explain, lol...) and everyone there is so cool. I just don't get the reason to draw them ugly. I'm super gay and whenever I see any cool girl at my school I get so excited. Also.. the person with the ponytail and glasses looks like me. Thanks author of the tik tok, it made me feel like shit(〒﹏〒)
I think this girl goes to my art school oop 💀 I think this bc she drew a model who models for figure drawing classes (granted he models at some other colleges too) and a mutral who follows most people in the animation class at my college follows her
I only went to art school for a semester (uni isn't for me) but all of my peers were open and loving. They didn't care about anyone's appearance, they only cared about who someone was as a person.
bro I only stumble upon your videos every now and then BUT THAT SONA CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD; THIS IS THE MOST MAJESTIC, TOE CURLING, BEAUTIFUL CREATURE I EVER LAID MY EYES UPON, THIS!!! THIS IS IT!!!!! anyway hope you have a good day
THE SONIC SHIRT OMG I LOVE IT!!! The new art style OML ITS SO GOOD WHAT-?! Also the intro is so funny to me😭😭 but it’s so real. Like why can’t artists be artists. I hate those who look done at others art and think it’s ‘better’ then theirs.
Misa's apology seemed not genuine at all and she even liked a comment that said "accurate asl though" when talking about the designs ( 7:01 ^^) and it pretty much confirmed she didn't care at all 😭
her video also led a lot of people getting harassed, like I barely post my face on TikTok but I had people saying the caricatures were accurate. I’m not even an art student I’m just trans, I’m sure this isn’t the only time that happend
I gave up depicting myself as a human because it didn't look or feel like irl me and resorted to a chibi bear, my spirit animal. Too anatomically small to carry a pencil.
I just graduated from art school a few months ago and I genuinely can't fathom disliking the uniquqeness and creative personal expression of anyone there. I never had art friends until I went to art school, and it was fantastic to see so many creative minds just like me there. It was a space where people embraced their creativity and didn't judge others for shallow things like appearance or whether they were conventionally attractive enough, because they saw the beauty in more than that. I can't imagine ever badmouthing such a wonderful safe space that welcomes everyone. I don't think people who try to single themselves out as "better" than everyone from their own communities realize how pathetic and strange they're making themselves look. You're one of us regardless of how bloated your ego is! anyways, sending love to all my fellow weirdos!!
This is my opinion btw: I didn't feel offended by that video and I honestly thought it was a bit funny and afterwards I went out of town (where I had no wifi) and then I come back to people telling the person that made the TikTok to kill themselves, starve, and cut themselves. I don't think it was serious enough to tell them to harm themselves not knowing if they had mental issues or not. Those characters weren't based off of lgbtq people so seeing zepy say so was honestly confusing for me. (I'm not defending the slurs she said but I don't agree with telling somebody to kill themselves over a TikTok)
she had said multiple slurs multiple times it being 4 or 5 years aging and other comments being around COVID…she was clearly thinking about lgbtq people if she liked saying the f slur a lot Did you guys not see those posts?
@@yurixku my comment was towards your second last statement "those characters weren't based off of LGBTQ people so seeing zepy say so was honestly confusing for me."
i just think her ego is a little to big, its like she was saying how ppl in art school r like into wierd ah stuff and looks like not in the steryotypical "beauty standards" which i completly disgaree with because everyone looks unique and shouldnt be juged for that, like the way she drew herself aswell like dude. ik the drama isnt and shouldnt be big and also it does kinda look like she milking it a bit for more attention. it was also not really that funny because shes basically alienating others for not have "normal" humor
i feel like the situation is being milked, people are just bored because wtf are you worried about something that was never that serious to begin with and APOLOGIZED about. The same people who are mad at her for the depictions she drew are the same people sending her DEATH THREATS and bullying her. You can’t expect someone to grow from an action when you’re constantly harassing them over it…especially since it wasn’t that serious to begin with💀.
I've been a serious artist for 12 years now and it still baffles me how many times artists just do something so out of pocket or awful. Like how hard is it to not suck 😩 First time watcher, I absolutely love your style of videos!
I remember watching misa videos live as they went up. She was so toxic abt this whole situation she just loves the attention she’s enjoying getting from the hate. She wanted to do something edgy and be rude. She’s just a girl who wants to act like she’s the main character. I say just block her and ignore it she’s obviously an ignorant person
The fact that ppl decided to go so far and say she’s making stereotypes of gay and people with disabilities. No, she’s just drawing people who are cringy and her opinion weird
Y’all I watched that first TikTok and snorted cuz I know people who look like that and could imagine their dead stares, the over-analyzation got me crying 😭 Toxic things come in the smallest forms and that’s legit crazy to me, how are we supposed to keep track of micro-aggressions. I’m legit going to get jumped one of these days fucking around with my friends or something. Or maybe I’ll overhear someone say sm and try to help the person they’re fucking around with and just make a mess out of myself 😭
i never liked the original video, since i fit the stereotype of the "cringy, queer, autistic and fat" artist that wants to go to art school, and i'm sick of being bullied for it.
Honestly I didn’t think the video was too serious, are they stereotypes? Yes but there’s stereotypes for literally every major so I don’t care about that too much. the fact some people are glossing over the fact she said SLURS and misgendered a person is CRAZY to me. apparently she was like 12 in those Snapchat things but…..there’s really no proof to that claim. So I’m gonna continue to believe these were recent 😭😭😭
Exactly, the video is such a non issue imo. Like she's definitely not the first person to have made fun of people by drawing them "ugly", meatcanyon's whole career is based off of that and tons of people love him lmao. But yeah I definitely think everyone's focusing on the most unimportant problem here, if she's said slurs and purposefully misgendered people I think that's what people should actually be talking about instead of "she drew art students as ugly and it's kinda mean guys"
@@mourningdawn Completely agree.. though its important to remember how dramas like these are seen from the average persons perspective, obviously the thing that started it all would be the one with the most attention, and the only way you would find out about other horrible things about said person is if you cared to check out more than 3-4 videos of said topic. I'm not saying its a good thing, I just wanted to say why this happens.
I would say that the issue is that she portrayed those characters as stereotypes and also says slurs. Every person, race, ethnicity, etc. has stereotypes, but there's a difference between characterising someone through noticing similarities between people and spreading hatred through characterising.
I mean I don’t personally like the video and do find it somewhat offensive.( that could just be bias though as I don’t personally like the bojack style. ) maybe I’m just not understanding the humour properly I don’t know. I just don’t think it was necessary to draw the other students as caricatures for this joke. As it was never about the appearances of the other art students in the first place. It’s also somewhat others people which I feel is also unfair.
I think it feels offensive because, well, there was no point in drawing them ugly. The joke was already there, just make them look confused at that's it, it works
OMG!! This is so wild! I was friends with her in high school, she was always the racist type and usually quoted idubbz and (flithyfrank I think) so I think she's stuck stuck in that era. It's weird to see that she hasn't changed at all as a person. Great video tho!! Bit odd seeing her after like 4 years.
I love self glazing in my art lol I’m not ugly but I’m sickly looking and a bit scronny so I draw myself without my less favorable features I think it’s totally fine. Drawing yourself won’t ever be 100% like you unless you’re a hyper realistic artist. Off topic- But yes that girl was wrong for doing that I saw it on TikTok but was confused by it then I saw zepys video I knew it looked familiar but didn’t know it was a response to nai, I thought the video was cute though (zepys video) and I’m sure she didn’t mean anything hateful like nai did she was definitely trying to say that she’s the pretty & funny one while the rest don’t get the jokes and aren’t as attractive looking as her. I love your take on this frommi I hope your channel continues to grow you deserve it❤
SHES WHITE?!?!, IDK but i lowkey assumed she was black just how she drew herself. (being racist and homophobic is crazy tho) But also since im not on tiktok its really disheartning seeing how toxic the platforms becoming. :(
And it's the fact that she doesn't even look the way she draws herself, her face is literally elongated compared to the round shape face she draws her persona, that's projection if i ever saw one
The fact zephy even apologized for saying that nai was ableist and homophobic even though nai actually said ableist and homophobic things is killing me🙏🙏
Idk how to feel about this controversy. In my opinion, the 1st girl and who's involved on it, defending or attacking her are all the same. Stupid people who live in a bubble, why are they even giving attention to this cause? It's silly and will it really change smt?? They could be doing so many better things, yet here they are. + The zepn or idk post was so cute like they didn't have any malice towards the self insert chad girl. Eu curti. No hate to you btw, I'm just expressing what I think.
She herself admitted the characters were NOT based on anyone from her actual school and revealed the timelapse in a tt live where it was like a 4 min sketch of all of them and they were all based on HER the satan loving one was cuz she used to be into that the hippie one was based on her in middle school and the dude one was based on when she used to be a weeb. Accusing her of homophobia and transphobia over the drawings is mad wack she also admitted she said the slurs and said sorry. Nai didnt private the vids to hide it she herself said it was cuz her mental health was getting bad from the comments on it people should honestly move on Shes not some "mean girl" shes a normal person and the amount of ppl that have done and made stuff just like hers and never got called out is insane grow up a little
11:50 taking "i'm not like other girls" mentality to art school is a crazy look too like. I thought art school was suppose to be where you could express yourself creatively but now we gotta worry about mean girls in 2024 who have to impose their standards there too?
No matter what groups of people you choose from there's going to conventionally attractive and unconventionally attractive people in them, there are attractive and unattractive doctors, teachers, artist, and even models depending of what they need to model for, trying to communicate that all people in those groups are ugly and ugly=bad person, but even though I'm in this group I'm attractive so that means I'm the better person is just very immature
This could have been avoided so easily if the first cc just made the characters blank like most artists do. Edit: 12:15 this is literally the perfect example for what I said.
I love your sprite and also your picture is really pretty! and yeah i agree with you w the whole drama thing. also is being an art major all its cut out to be? I want to major in animation or art but idk if i should
choosing your major is a long mental journey you gotta do yourself, based on what you believe and want. personally, I’m still deciding if I’m gonna stick to this. so far, it’s been very fun :)
As an artist I like to see the beauty in people that others do not. It is not nice to see someone use caricatures against specific people to make themselfs look like the better person.. She probably knows better now and it is ironic to see people draw her "ugly" now because they are not any better than her by doing so..
Are you talking about the dude with the really cartoony style that heavily obsesses over how Touhou is a “kiddie game”? If so, I’m surprised that dude is still even around. He has been doing the same thing for just about a decade at this point.
@@shirleymaemattthews4862 I was a big Undertale fan back when the completed version of it released. I used to be a DeviantArt user and would browse fanart for the game. That’s when I stumbled upon this really weird Undertale hate group where users would post their hate art and distaste for the game, and the Evil Crash Bandicoot guy was one of them. I discovered the rest of the rabbit hole through a Tumblr that posted whatever they find on the Internet. This Evil Crash dude has never even changed, not even a single bit.
@@dogfest2001 I don't know if he's still around. But he's one of my personal underrated internet trolls of ALL TIME. And the LATEST time I saw him myself was 1-3 years ago, on Tik-Tok.
update! all the videos and post she deleted were archived by w33w00. here they all are ;)
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IIDAGlZl3wMqwHNDqpZeJEBAc-ojhp7k?usp=drive_link
8:25 8:25 8:26 8:27 8:28 8:47
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@@Luna_Kitsuneeee Most likely a bot
It’s the fact that zephy apologized for claiming Nai was ableist and homophobic but then it was found out that Nai had said offensive and homophobic things 💀
Zephyr preordered it bro 🙏😭
People take more offense at the accusation of being bigoted rather than bigotry itself :/
i still don't understand why the ableist accusation, I mean she never said that the people who appear in the video are autistic, TDAH, etc. It sounds really weird...
@@noheruuushe said ableist and homophobic slurs, that’s why people are saying this
@@basintional ohhh that's horrible, thanks for explaining!
Ngl she gives the vibe of one of those mean girl types. I feel like there's probably a valid reason why the people at her art school don't like her humor lol
Your PFP could single-handedly be the greatest image of all time.
She got called out for using r slur n slur many racial slurs and abusing her friend
@@stingyfloopy vivzie??
@@YourfriendD0mmi no the girl in the video misa the girl who made the art
@@stingyfloopy oooh
"i drew myself as the chad and you as the soyjack 😎."
This is essentially what the original TikTok is communicating to me.
based.....
LITERALLY THE POST IN ONE SENTENCE
Tbh I’d much rather draw myself as the soyjack and the person I’m arguing with as the Chad because that’s just way funnier XD
Didn't think it was that bad until i looked deeper into the account and realized how muchh different she draws herself and her friends, not that the art school students are "unconventionally attractive" it was the artstyle she used drawing them😭😭😭i thought ppl were salty bc the art school students aren't drawn like your average conventionally attractive tiktok influencers, ion think there's anything wrong about not fighting society's standards, coming from an ugly person or im possibly just desensitised
(you) look like this and say this
Also an arist being against how people choose to express themselves differently through there fashion and expression is really concerning honestly.
Word!
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Seriously how do you go to art school and be a bully???😭
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@@Mcrfan.123 on the writing side of art here, and yeah. we have no room to bully anyone really
Funny trend in Manga, there's a decent percentage of Manga Artists Avatars are delightfully weird. Mushrooms, dogs and other funny designs. Heck, the creator of DBZ was a cute little robot.
oh yeah!! the mangaka for beastars is a chicken woman right? I love when artist draw themselves silly ;)
@@frommi_and Video games Undertale, Toby Fox, with the white dog.
I like funny/silly/grime avatars verses "too perfect". But as long as it's all in fun and games for the avatar, I don't have much to say.
Yeah! If I’m correct, the Creator of FullMetal Alchemist also falls under this. Hiromu Arakawa. I think her avatar is a cute little cow right?
my art is semi-realistic but i always feel the need to draw myself as cartoony and silly as possible. i feel like avatars are supposed to be how you feel, not exact representations of you as closely as possible--that would be a self portrait. but it's telling she sees herself as pretty and trendy and conventionally attractive while everyone that doesn't agree with her "humor" (it was probably slurs lets be real) as ugly caricatures like soyjacks
I’m trying to become the creator of an Indie animation show, and my sona is just a little blob with antlers and this face :3
Although who am I to talk? They’re still way hotter than me.
idc abt this situation, but the most surprising part is that op of the first video is 21 and not 15 cause that post is high schooler behavior 💀
thats just depressing
Wait seriously??? I though this girl was like 15-19, pushing 20 and acting like THAT is unbelievable
…..oh!
@@littleanimations4760 btw, pushing means nearing a certain age, for Nai, it's OVER 20 which is worse. 21 is still young but way too grown to be unnecessarily propping yourself up while degrading others for appearances
@@kishinumaayumi ah that makes sense but DAMN why she even acting like that at THAT age?? I get our brains don’t develop til we’re like 24-25 but this is just peaked in high school attitude yk? 🧍🏾
The fact that she responded “somehow they made them uglier than I did” to someone redrawing the characters in a nicer light really says all I need to hear in this conversation. And SHE posted it to her own story. Almost like she was bragging about the fact that she drew “ugly” characters, aka neurodivergent and queer people, and she got away with it. She’s definitely a mean girl, a bully, and I guarantee if she isn’t already phobic and ableist, she’s well on her way. She’s surrounded herself with yes men, and she’s clearly not changing.
It’s not good to judge someone you don’t know, but at the same time, don’t we, as queers and neurodivergent people, HAVE to judge others for our own safety??? We HAVE to figure out if this person we’re talking to is unsafe, or if they’d be cruel to us. We can keep it alleged, sure, but we have to be safe.
It’s also bad to stoop down to their level, but you gotta admit, the irony is there. She IS drawing a sort of… anti caricature of herself. I look exactly like the person in the middle, tooth gap and all, and it hurts to see myself in something someone else deems “negative” or “ugly.” I think the most fair way to get payback without being cruel is drawing her exactly how she looks. Seems fair to me. /hj
It really seems like she’s just insecure and taking it out on people she sees as “uglier” or “lower” than her.
Having insecurities about yourself is valid, and normal! but it ISNT okay to push your insecurities onto others. And she’s gotta learn one way or another, or we’ll just have another bigot floating around the internet. I’m sure we’ll see her again soon. For better or for worse. I hope we don’t see her at all though. Or anyone like her for that matter. Ofc we don’t have that kinda luck :( oh well.
Also your sona is super duper lovely!!! Your style is so soft and the colors are really well done! :) loved this vid! You did great:)
How can you tell they're LGBT and neurodivergent, especially if they're people who aren't that dress in this manner?
The way she was exposed for saying the f and r slur with negative intent bye
@@TOMFOOLERY334because they are literally copy paste caricatures used to mock queer and neurodivergent people, have you’ve never seen those dumb soyjack memes ?
"Almost like she was bragging about the fact that she drew “ugly” characters, aka neurodivergent and queer people,"
Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud. Now we know what you really think of us.
@@TOMFOOLERY334 I think you’re worried about the wrong thing here.
The people shes talking about and drawing here saw themselves in these characters she drew to be soyjacks, an insulting character based of of stereotypes. Including me! An alt and queer neurodivergent artist. Not every artist is going to be queer or neurodivergent, but enough queer and neurodivergent people relate to these characters that it’s heavily implied. Bigger people, alt dressing people, and “nerd” types who go to art school? And who don’t get this joke she’s making, a joke she’s used to making with a friend group that isn’t these specific kinds of people? She’s saying that these people are “others”, who aren’t like her and don’t get the joke. She’s clearly not very alt other than the artist bit, and even then the whole point of her video was showing how she ISNT like these other characters.
If you get it, you get it, if you don’t, you don’t. That’s all I can say.
I almost guarantee the "joke" in question was something offensive, and when others gave them a weird look about being rude, they got upset and decided "oh they are just gross ugly weirdos" and made the post. They probably aren't used to being in an environment where this kind of hate and casual gross behavior isn't acceptable.
I have sympathy for them, as most people who look and judge others like this are just taught to do so and think it's normal. But that doesn't excuse their behavior.
i dont think that video is inherently problematic, but i remember when i first saw it i was a bit wacked out 😭it just gives "im different than other art students cuz i'm funny and pretty 😘🤩" vibes 💀
Exacly man is a issue not everyone going to look good in a art school some people struggle be pretty and some are disabled and some are different and that’s ok but she doesn’t understand i hope she mature and change but the way she portray the people wasn’t that nice some think she doesn’t know what she doing some say she know what she doing but in the end of the way you should not portray like this
I think zeppy should NOT have apologized , they were trying to make minorities feel heard , and welcome . And the one video that did that people had an issue with it. I think that’s wrong. Cause personally as a disabled queer person, I could feel that the first TikTok was probably about me , which, was ickky, but I actually felt alot better seeing zeepys TikTok. And then people bashed them . This genuinely is actual behavior I get treated like. Especially cause my chronic illnesses( POTS) causes brain fog; so obv I’m a lil slow. And as a artist , I’m insecure about that fact
behalf on other queer disabled people thank you zeppy
Let the minority have somthing for once yall.
Fr!!! I felt so gaslit by everyone and this video until they had confirmation that it was transphobic/ableist etc. ig that's why stereotypes and coding can be so dangerous to the ppl these aweful caricatures target
Zeppy is so much nicer than me cause I woulda fought like nobody's business and probably made the situation worse lol. They are so goated for standing up on behalf of minorities even if they had to try and de-escalate the situation later 🗣‼️
thank you!!! this!! they werent even rude about it, they (zep) just spoke their truth (and what a lot of others were thinking) and left it at that. it isnt fair that gross behavior gets a better reaction than someone trying to stand up to it :(
Seeing that TikTok of her “joking” with her friends and seeing her behavior. I’m confident to say nobody found her funny, she’s just annoying. 😊
I mean it was pretty funny
@@mesozoicstudios6061 No, she's annoying and she's a bully
@@deesrat6892 I think you just might be a snowflake lol
it was funny you’re all just soft asf
@@Bigmonkeysdancing like please stop being so sensitive like yeyeey 😞
She's fr the art pick me
I want to point out this reminds me of the animation controversy of how african/black people were drawn with exagorated big lips or women drawn insanly sexual in the early days of animation and guess what happened to those animation sterotypes nowerdays?
are you seriously comparing some tiktokker doodles to full on minstrel cartoons oh my god
@@pigeonmama’this reminds me of how’
@@stitchgor3 ok?? still horrible
@@TravellerZasha if she HAD drawn a char with big lips or slanted eyes or any other racially stereotypical thing, it’d not only be a lot more obvious what her true meaning might have been with this “joke” and it’d be a much bigger problem. But you’re absolutely right, ultimately the energy she’s putting out is the same, just with neurodivergence and queerness instead of race. All of which are minorities. It also swings back around to the fact that normalization of “small jokes” against minorities can evolve to straight up phobia/ableism/racism, much like we see at the end of the video. You bring up a great point of proof as to why this normalization is so harmful! If this behavior was shunned as much as it should be, the minorities at the butt of the joke wouldn’t be seen as weird and wouldn’t be at risk of harm as much as we are with the past actions of art and animation (and film and games and…. real life.)
I could argue all day that this issue is much bigger than just the art community, than just these specific minorities, and these “small jokes”. It’s real, it’s dangerous, and it’s happened before. We should nip it in the bud and spread awareness while we can! Thanks for your perspective and point!
@@pigeonmama They're only saying it reminds them of it, not actually comparing them
Really feeling like that one apple jack quote rn. “actually I didn’t learn anything, I was right all along!” about this situation lol. Sometimes you can just tell someone is a mean girl, and after seeing those tweets I’m happy to have my confirmations true. Kinda reeks of 4chan too lmao
thanks so much for talking on this!
right back at ya :^)
HIIIII ZEPN1
your drawing of the three art students was so cute and it’s so annoying you had to apologize (especially bc you were right!)
as a art major she’d probably look down upon thanks for standing up for us :)
As an artist in art school, the OG poster reminded me of some similar people i know in the same major as me who are, essentially, “mean girls”. Their sense of humor leans towards making fun of people for being “annoying”, with their “annoying” traits often being common traits shared by neurodivergent people (being socially awkward, struggling to read the room, being overly blunt. In my school at least, the kinds of jokes that are seen as “unfunny” generally leans towards jokes steeped in misogyny, queerphobia, racism, etc, cause art students generally tend to lean towards being more leftist, so it calls into question what kind of jokes OP was making to be seen as unfunny by their peers.
I don’t think she’s that offensive, but the tiktok against her of the art students bonding together was ADORABLE
I do see how people see how this could be offensive since usually that kind of style is made to make fun of queer or neurodivergent people thought I do think some people jumped the gun a little. And I think Niah constantly bringing up and prolonging the drama was unesery.
Maybe I’m desensitized from all the people being outed as pedophiles but I find it hard to muster up the energy to care about comparatively small stuff like this
@@amethystimagination3332 still okay to not like being made fun of. I mean, i feel the same way as you but logically just cause a minor bad thing isnt as important as a major bad thing doesnt mean people cant get upset.
@@humanconsumer2864 I agree and I’m not saying I’m right or anything. I think I’m just burned out from seeing everyone’s problems all the time y’know?
I think my biggest thing about “small” stuff is that it can quickly snowball into legitimately dangerous stuff. Not saying this will happen to her, (though the Screenshots at the end are…. Pretty bad.), just in general, but one person “making jokes” about insulting people can attract actual bigots. And being in that environment will lead to more open insults towards minorities. They might start insulting different races along side the queers and neurotypicals, attracting Yahtzees, which do commit legitimate harm towards minority groups and POC. Pipelines like this are VERY real and VERY dangerous, and “small” behavior like this should really be nipped in the bud before they spiral out of control. It might not always happen, hell it might even be super rare, but if you could stop one ☝️ person from spiraling into bigotry, wouldn’t you wanna try?
It wont always work to tell these people actual facts, but we can atleast try. At LEAST.
Basically real harm can come from this behavior in time, and we should stop it before it gets to that point.
ok so for everyone confused, to sum it all up. she basically drew herself like “pretty epic normal sigma” and then drew the others like “ugly weird queers who missed my normal person joke” my guess is that she didn’t intend for this to go so awry (and maybe never intended it in a hostile or stereotypical manner at all) and was kinda subconsciously (aka unawarely) following the tiktok stigma of “queer = cringe” I honestly say how she went about the situation after was stranger than how it started but idk tho and some of these are just my guesses
I am an art major too! I love all my classmates, they’re all so talented and supportive to my extremely shy ass lmao. I’ve never really sat down to look at them and go “Oh they’re pretty” “Oh they’re ugly”, because why should I care? They’re my classmates, they’re my peers, they’re all so incredibly talented, and wonderful people. To judge them on looks alone or on if they have my same humor (which funnily enough they do) is just. Dumb.
I haven't finished the video but how she portrayed the "ugly people" is exactly how neurotypicals saw me, so I think it was ableist
Its so crazy for an art major to be like "the specific decisions i made in this piece of art aren't reflective of my intent or me as a person" uhhmmm thats literally how art is. You drew them a specific way for a specific reason, whether it's negative or positive stereotypes, they weren't drawn that way not to make fun of those specific people and people who are addressed by those stereotypes, so she has zero defense. Its obvious why she deleted all of it 👀
fr
the jokes she was talking about are prob really racist/ableist/etc, and the art majors were just too “sensitive” for her ://
now why the hell would u accuse someone of that?? get some help
@@Bigmonkeysdancingmaybe because she liked joking about George Floyd and saying slurs and being on the spectrum and liked to talk about Jewish people and make mazis signs on Minecraft as if it was a aesthetic cute house block home 😭…those accusations are true
@@Bigmonkeysdancingthe end of the video was literally a compilation of her being racist and homophobic
@Bigmonkeysdancing the soyjacks she drew tend to fall under those specific groups (lgbt, nuerodivergent, or generally ""woke"") and the way she depicts them sort of fuels this idea that she may be making those types of jokes in an environment where ppl can be particularly sensitive towards them (people who are often the butt of those jokes or simply don't like them bc they're offensive)
not saying that this IS true, it's just some fair speculation and we won't really know what the original artist was joking abt (probably just a case of "I'm pretty and funny and these other art students aren't!")
Not shocked that a girl who looks like sssniperwolf acts this way
At this point i wouldn't be surprised is she went mask off and was just an openly terrible person because all the "it's not that big a deal" people wouldn't care
Og video aside what really angered me was her attitude afterwards towards the criticisms. She was making videos left and right basically being "oopsies why are yall sooo angry, its just a joke" and then liking all the comments that says she did absolutely nothing wrong. The fact that she felt no remorse or even care to reflect is crazy to me, and saying on her stories that "no matter how well you apologise or address smth someone will always be upset" is even more ridiculous bc its so clear she has no intention of apologising bc she thinks she has nothing to apologise for???
Maybe this is petty of me but i had to block her after that. I dont want to give this kind of artist ANY attention or traction to her videos not even hate man. its not worth it, better to let her fade into obscurity
Wait she actually twitted those slurs or....
yup ^_^
She committed the crime of acting like the good old days of the internet apparently. I remember when nobody had issues with that sort of thing online.
@@zeta_noir maybe its a good thing we're evolving past that then LMAO
@@zeta_noir Good thing those ‘good old days’ are mostly behind us then. Thank god.
@@iknowwhatyouare102 nah the internet sucks now because everyone is a fragile child.
awesome video fromni !!
thanks bre !!! you too :33
HIII BREDRAWS
HI BREEE
bre!! ^-^ i’ve been watching u since the start of ur channel!!
HIYYAA BREE!!
This drama reminds me of those old gacha life where the main character look “cool, pretty, badass” while the haters or background character looks mid to make you gain sympathetic for the main character more 😭
Honestly theres a comment saying that "everyone can be an artist, even mean girls" and misa is a mean girl. The typical one that would shame people who are not similar to her, THAT mean girl
I remember seeing this tik took and being genuinely upset. It just... Why? The joke would have landed if she just made them look "😐". There was no point in making the art students the joke by making them ugly.
I recently started going to an Artistic highschool (in italy it exists, it's difficult to explain, lol...) and everyone there is so cool. I just don't get the reason to draw them ugly. I'm super gay and whenever I see any cool girl at my school I get so excited. Also.. the person with the ponytail and glasses looks like me. Thanks author of the tik tok, it made me feel like shit(〒﹏〒)
I love Zepys little animation, it's so cute
I think this girl goes to my art school oop 💀 I think this bc she drew a model who models for figure drawing classes (granted he models at some other colleges too) and a mutral who follows most people in the animation class at my college follows her
this is kind of off topic of the video, but i REALLY love the way you draw hair, it scratches my brain in a way i cannot understand.
TY!!!:3
I only went to art school for a semester (uni isn't for me) but all of my peers were open and loving. They didn't care about anyone's appearance, they only cared about who someone was as a person.
bro I only stumble upon your videos every now and then BUT THAT SONA CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD; THIS IS THE MOST MAJESTIC, TOE CURLING, BEAUTIFUL CREATURE I EVER LAID MY EYES UPON, THIS!!! THIS IS IT!!!!! anyway hope you have a good day
OH MY GOF THANK YOU??
17:38 "i draw oild up pregnant men." "woah there!! thats too political!!"
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THE SONIC SHIRT OMG I LOVE IT!!!
The new art style OML ITS SO GOOD WHAT-?!
Also the intro is so funny to me😭😭 but it’s so real. Like why can’t artists be artists.
I hate those who look done at others art and think it’s ‘better’ then theirs.
BREDRAWS MENTION TOO?! I’ve been watching her videos for a while:3
i hate the "youre the one making it weird/bad" arguement. like no babe sometimes it is just weird and or bad
Misa's apology seemed not genuine at all and she even liked a comment that said "accurate asl though" when talking about the designs ( 7:01 ^^) and it pretty much confirmed she didn't care at all 😭
her video also led a lot of people getting harassed, like I barely post my face on TikTok but I had people saying the caricatures were accurate. I’m not even an art student I’m just trans, I’m sure this isn’t the only time that happend
I swear nothing is ever serious, art lore is so dramatic 😭😭😭
I mean.. if you search about the artist in this "drama" there are proves that she is/was homophobic and ableist...
I gave up depicting myself as a human because it didn't look or feel like irl me and resorted to a chibi bear, my spirit animal. Too anatomically small to carry a pencil.
real help except mine is this,, weird star alien thing,,
I LOVE WHEN ARTIST DO THIS :^)
I just graduated from art school a few months ago and I genuinely can't fathom disliking the uniquqeness and creative personal expression of anyone there. I never had art friends until I went to art school, and it was fantastic to see so many creative minds just like me there. It was a space where people embraced their creativity and didn't judge others for shallow things like appearance or whether they were conventionally attractive enough, because they saw the beauty in more than that. I can't imagine ever badmouthing such a wonderful safe space that welcomes everyone. I don't think people who try to single themselves out as "better" than everyone from their own communities realize how pathetic and strange they're making themselves look. You're one of us regardless of how bloated your ego is!
anyways, sending love to all my fellow weirdos!!
This is my opinion btw:
I didn't feel offended by that video and I honestly thought it was a bit funny and afterwards I went out of town (where I had no wifi) and then I come back to people telling the person that made the TikTok to kill themselves, starve, and cut themselves. I don't think it was serious enough to tell them to harm themselves not knowing if they had mental issues or not.
Those characters weren't based off of lgbtq people so seeing zepy say so was honestly confusing for me.
(I'm not defending the slurs she said but I don't agree with telling somebody to kill themselves over a TikTok)
Yh I agree. Sure the original TikTok could be seen as having been made in bad taste but the people reacting to it are so dramatic I'm ngl🙈
she had said multiple slurs multiple times it being 4 or 5 years aging and other comments being around COVID…she was clearly thinking about lgbtq people if she liked saying the f slur a lot
Did you guys not see those posts?
@@Weirdolover I said " I'm not defending the slurs she said but I don't agree with telling somebody to kill themselves over a TikTok"
@@yurixku my comment was towards your second last statement "those characters weren't based off of LGBTQ people so seeing zepy say so was honestly confusing for me."
I hate the art community, i'm happy drawing solely for fun thank you very much
i just think her ego is a little to big, its like she was saying how ppl in art school r like into wierd ah stuff and looks like not in the steryotypical "beauty standards" which i completly disgaree with because everyone looks unique and shouldnt be juged for that, like the way she drew herself aswell like dude. ik the drama isnt and shouldnt be big and also it does kinda look like she milking it a bit for more attention. it was also not really that funny because shes basically alienating others for not have "normal" humor
DUDE THE BACKGROUND ART OF THE INTRO @ 5:20 IS ACTUALLY SO COOL AND I LOVE OT SM
i feel like the situation is being milked, people are just bored because wtf are you worried about something that was never that serious to begin with and APOLOGIZED about. The same people who are mad at her for the depictions she drew are the same people sending her DEATH THREATS and bullying her. You can’t expect someone to grow from an action when you’re constantly harassing them over it…especially since it wasn’t that serious to begin with💀.
I've been a serious artist for 12 years now and it still baffles me how many times artists just do something so out of pocket or awful. Like how hard is it to not suck 😩
First time watcher, I absolutely love your style of videos!
OKAY YOU DEVOURED AT THE LAST MINUTES OF THE VIDEO 🙌🙌
I remember watching misa videos live as they went up. She was so toxic abt this whole situation she just loves the attention she’s enjoying getting from the hate. She wanted to do something edgy and be rude. She’s just a girl who wants to act like she’s the main character. I say just block her and ignore it she’s obviously an ignorant person
Yeah she used too… or probably still is an edgelord, if you look at her deleted posts….its a big yikes…
awesome video big balls bee! can you let me out of the basement now it's so cold :(
STAY THERE !!
I’m also in a art major
Same, but in animation
The fact that ppl decided to go so far and say she’s making stereotypes of gay and people with disabilities. No, she’s just drawing people who are cringy and her opinion weird
She makes fun of people who aren’t skinny and queer people with different pronouns…she meant it
Y’all I watched that first TikTok and snorted cuz I know people who look like that and could imagine their dead stares, the over-analyzation got me crying 😭
Toxic things come in the smallest forms and that’s legit crazy to me, how are we supposed to keep track of micro-aggressions.
I’m legit going to get jumped one of these days fucking around with my friends or something. Or maybe I’ll overhear someone say sm and try to help the person they’re fucking around with and just make a mess out of myself 😭
i never liked the original video, since i fit the stereotype of the "cringy, queer, autistic and fat" artist that wants to go to art school, and i'm sick of being bullied for it.
love how you tell stories, I watch a lot of commentary RUclips and yours just flow really well
i’m an art ed major and my classes obviously collide with art majors and art majors look like people, there’s no one way to look
Honestly I didn’t think the video was too serious, are they stereotypes? Yes but there’s stereotypes for literally every major so I don’t care about that too much. the fact some people are glossing over the fact she said SLURS and misgendered a person is CRAZY to me. apparently she was like 12 in those Snapchat things but…..there’s really no proof to that claim. So I’m gonna continue to believe these were recent 😭😭😭
Exactly, the video is such a non issue imo. Like she's definitely not the first person to have made fun of people by drawing them "ugly", meatcanyon's whole career is based off of that and tons of people love him lmao.
But yeah I definitely think everyone's focusing on the most unimportant problem here, if she's said slurs and purposefully misgendered people I think that's what people should actually be talking about instead of "she drew art students as ugly and it's kinda mean guys"
@@mourningdawn Completely agree.. though its important to remember how dramas like these are seen from the average persons perspective, obviously the thing that started it all would be the one with the most attention, and the only way you would find out about other horrible things about said person is if you cared to check out more than 3-4 videos of said topic. I'm not saying its a good thing, I just wanted to say why this happens.
I would say that the issue is that she portrayed those characters as stereotypes and also says slurs.
Every person, race, ethnicity, etc. has stereotypes, but there's a difference between characterising someone through noticing similarities between people and spreading hatred through characterising.
It’s like there’s a new hated artist for the month!
6:12 That's a little pathetic because the girl probably doesn't give a shit if they are friends or not 😭🙏, People don't know how to take jokes anymore
I mean I don’t personally like the video and do find it somewhat offensive.( that could just be bias though as I don’t personally like the bojack style. ) maybe I’m just not understanding the humour properly I don’t know. I just don’t think it was necessary to draw the other students as caricatures for this joke. As it was never about the appearances of the other art students in the first place. It’s also somewhat others people which I feel is also unfair.
I think it feels offensive because, well, there was no point in drawing them ugly. The joke was already there, just make them look confused at that's it, it works
Do you mean Wojak ? Bojack is a horse
@@gerldrawer4944 sorry I did mean wojak my bad LOL 😂
OMG!! This is so wild! I was friends with her in high school, she was always the racist type and usually quoted idubbz and (flithyfrank I think) so I think she's stuck stuck in that era. It's weird to see that she hasn't changed at all as a person. Great video tho!! Bit odd seeing her after like 4 years.
I love self glazing in my art lol I’m not ugly but I’m sickly looking and a bit scronny so I draw myself without my less favorable features I think it’s totally fine. Drawing yourself won’t ever be 100% like you unless you’re a hyper realistic artist. Off topic- But yes that girl was wrong for doing that I saw it on TikTok but was confused by it then I saw zepys video I knew it looked familiar but didn’t know it was a response to nai, I thought the video was cute though (zepys video) and I’m sure she didn’t mean anything hateful like nai did she was definitely trying to say that she’s the pretty & funny one while the rest don’t get the jokes and aren’t as attractive looking as her.
I love your take on this frommi I hope your channel continues to grow you deserve it❤
SHES WHITE?!?!, IDK but i lowkey assumed she was black just how she drew herself. (being racist and homophobic is crazy tho)
But also since im not on tiktok its really disheartning seeing how toxic the platforms becoming. :(
As a queer, neurodivergent, "art kid" they are DEFINITELY stereotypes, they are semi accurate imo
:O the mystery shack background is peak
GRAVITY FALLS BACKGROUND?!!!!!! ALSO SICK OC THINGY SVHIVAIHCAOHCOAHC
And it's the fact that she doesn't even look the way she draws herself, her face is literally elongated compared to the round shape face she draws her persona, that's projection if i ever saw one
The fact zephy even apologized for saying that nai was ableist and homophobic even though nai actually said ableist and homophobic things is killing me🙏🙏
OMG HELLO?!!??? I’m like 2 MINITES IN BUT I LOVE THIS ACCOUNT YOUR ART THE SPRITE THE SOMIC SHIRT THE FREAKING GRAVITY FALLS BG?!!?????!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
i’m glad someone made a video about this bc i saw a tiktok yesterday and was so lost
Idk how to feel about this controversy.
In my opinion, the 1st girl and who's involved on it, defending or attacking her are all the same. Stupid people who live in a bubble, why are they even giving attention to this cause? It's silly and will it really change smt?? They could be doing so many better things, yet here they are.
+ The zepn or idk post was so cute like they didn't have any malice towards the self insert chad girl. Eu curti.
No hate to you btw, I'm just expressing what I think.
She herself admitted the characters were NOT based on anyone from her actual school and revealed the timelapse in a tt live where it was like a 4 min sketch of all of them and they were all based on HER the satan loving one was cuz she used to be into that the hippie one was based on her in middle school and the dude one was based on when she used to be a weeb.
Accusing her of homophobia and transphobia over the drawings is mad wack she also admitted she said the slurs and said sorry. Nai didnt private the vids to hide it she herself said it was cuz her mental health was getting bad from the comments on it people should honestly move on
Shes not some "mean girl" shes a normal person and the amount of ppl that have done and made stuff just like hers and never got called out is insane grow up a little
She shouldn’t be forgiven at all…if you seen the other things said said like 2 years ago…🧏
Unrelated to the video topic, but i loveeee the background and your art for your sprite ect :3
Your art style is absolutely stunning
its so rude to point out peoples insecurities and basically make fun of them bc of it, what she did is just flat out rude :/
Even if the person is not insecure it’s still inappropriate to make fun of them!
Honestly it felt like half of the art community was chasing after the validation of the Mean Girl
11:50 taking "i'm not like other girls" mentality to art school is a crazy look too like. I thought art school was suppose to be where you could express yourself creatively but now we gotta worry about mean girls in 2024 who have to impose their standards there too?
No matter what groups of people you choose from there's going to conventionally attractive and unconventionally attractive people in them, there are attractive and unattractive doctors, teachers, artist, and even models depending of what they need to model for, trying to communicate that all people in those groups are ugly and ugly=bad person, but even though I'm in this group I'm attractive so that means I'm the better person is just very immature
Is that a SONIC T-SHIRT!!! APPROVED FROM BIGGEST SONIC FAN
“I just like being a cutie patootie” so real 13:02
This could have been avoided so easily if the first cc just made the characters blank like most artists do.
Edit: 12:15 this is literally the perfect example for what I said.
This is the first video from you I’ve seen. You won a new fan immediately
I couldn’t have worded my perspective on this as good as you, thank you for talking on this subject imo it hit the mark very well 👍🏽👍🏽
Ngl i love your art style and how you color! Is there any tips on how to color things?
I always add a layer on top w the main color I want to resonate! for my sprites, a put a light multiply layer of yellow on top!
I love your sprite and also your picture is really pretty! and yeah i agree with you w the whole drama thing. also is being an art major all its cut out to be? I want to major in animation or art but idk if i should
choosing your major is a long mental journey you gotta do yourself, based on what you believe and want. personally, I’m still deciding if I’m gonna stick to this. so far, it’s been very fun :)
As an artist I like to see the beauty in people that others do not. It is not nice to see someone use caricatures against specific people to make themselfs look like the better person.. She probably knows better now and it is ironic to see people draw her "ugly" now because they are not any better than her by doing so..
why didi i laugh at the woman burning the pride flag when i am one myself
sonic shirt is so real
This png style reminds me of yaelklore in the best way :))
3:18 BREDRAWZ MENTIONED?? YOU'RE A YAPPER TOO? YAAAAAAAY (just came from her video lmaoo)
IM A YAPPER IL BRE I TRIED TO DRAW SOMETHING IN HER ARTSTYLE😻😻😻😭😭😭
@@cxrpseytz I LOVE BRE SM MOST OF MY IBISPAINT BRUSHES ARE FROM HER
@@l.ttlesk.ttle13 ROTTIN ATTRACTION😼
1:11 ''thery'e doing it WrONg!'' wish people would stop saying this 🙄
STOP THE PICTURE OF THE GUN TO THE CATS HEAD??????? why is no one talking abt how psycho that is
i love your new sprite it's so nicely drawn !!!
the sonic shirt made me giggle
I lov soic
If some rando “artist” drew my insert character I would end my life ☠️
yo this was beautifully put at the end wth, I had to stop my sketch
I just found your channel, and I love the way you express your thoughts, I completely agree with you ❤
Want a weird offensive Tik Tok "artist"? Talk about Evil Crash Bandicoot
Are you talking about the dude with the really cartoony style that heavily obsesses over how Touhou is a “kiddie game”? If so, I’m surprised that dude is still even around. He has been doing the same thing for just about a decade at this point.
@@dogfest2001 yes...btw, how YOU knew or know about him?
@@shirleymaemattthews4862 I was a big Undertale fan back when the completed version of it released. I used to be a DeviantArt user and would browse fanart for the game. That’s when I stumbled upon this really weird Undertale hate group where users would post their hate art and distaste for the game, and the Evil Crash Bandicoot guy was one of them. I discovered the rest of the rabbit hole through a Tumblr that posted whatever they find on the Internet.
This Evil Crash dude has never even changed, not even a single bit.
@@dogfest2001 I don't know if he's still around. But he's one of my personal underrated internet trolls of ALL TIME. And the LATEST time I saw him myself was 1-3 years ago, on Tik-Tok.