Will Happer: CO2, the Gas of Life | Tom Nelson Pod
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- William (Will) Happer, the Cyrus Fogg Bracket Professor of Physics and one of the pioneers in the field of optically polarized atoms, is transferring to emeritus status at the end of this academic year. Will is known for developing rigorous theories to analyze his elegant atomic physics experiments as well as for extensive service to Princeton and the U.S. government. His research has initiated several vibrant fields outside of atomic physics.
He has published over 200 scientific papers. He is a fellow of the American Physical Society and American Association for the Advancement of Science, and a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society. He was awarded the 1997 Broida Prize and the 1999 Davisson-Germer Prize of the American Physical Society.
00:00 Introduction
07:48 Strategic Defense Initiative
14:11 Let's talk about the science
25:02 Equation of transfer
44:33 Saturation and barn paint
49:21 RuBisCO
57:07 Noble Lies
01:07:54 CO2 Coalition
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Thank you Tom Nelson for this most timely & quality interview with Prof Will Happer who I'm pleased to have met & had as our guest (with The Climate & Energy Realists of Five Dock, in Sydney Australia on 21st Sept 2023) for dinner on his last night following his recent Tour Down Under with quality presentations of this nature in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney & Brisbane underwritten by Australia's Institute of Public Affairs.
A true scientist, dedicated to The Scientific Method & one of natures gentlemen. What a pity our political elite, who in the main, are a bunch of absolute 'no nothings' when it comes to real climate science, pay no heed to Prof Happer's clear, easy to understand, layman's explanation surrounding the claimed 'climate catastrophe' - not!
Glad to hear people are organising.
the idea of considering CO2 a pollutant is the lowest point reached by human intelligence in the whole history
Indeed but they only did it so they can then legally support measures against it. You can clearly see the aim from their side. But was it actually accepted in a court of law? Now, THAT would be the scandal..
They have all been paid by Russian oil and Chinese coal to give them a world Monopoly!
The EPA defined CO2 a "pollutant" so they can have the authority to regulate it under the Clean Air Act. Under that act, they have the authority to regulate "pollutants", and they also have the authority to define what is, and is not, a "pollutant".
@@MrBallynally2 A court ruled that CO2 is a pollutant within the meaning of the EPA act.
It's easy to tax
Happer is my favourite guest. He's just a quality human being. Genuine, sincere and incredibly humble. Thank you for all your life work William. You are an inspirational man. Just know many out there appreciate your work more than you know. Thankyou so much.
If science was a humility contest Happer would win. Unfortunately its not. Happer represents a failed paradigm--a paradigm that opened the door and set the stage for climate hysteria.
willy happer is a simple clown
Your wish can't come true, he'd know more than he knows
Priceless! Please pass along our deepest thanks to Will. You guys are doing critically important work! And thank YOU, Tom, for all you do.
Will Happer is simply brilliant! The technical bits actually make it a lot easier to understand what is going on. Climate alarmists will find this presentation very uncomfortable!
ALL Life is based on carbon chemistry, carbon atom's unique property to bond with others in many different ways.
@@user-bm8uw8oj4kyes, our brains have the highest concentration of hydrocarbons, c27h46o, aka cholesterol. I think the alarmist are deficient in hydrocarbons and cannot think correctly.
What can I say. Prof William Happer has to be amongst the most influential and credible climate realists on the planet. What a privilege to see this video.
Ed: I think it would be useful to have 280ppm plotted on the graph next to the photos of Plank and Schwartzchild because I am certain the alarmists will say damage has already happened.
Huh? We are losing.
I was thinking the same
Which graph and in what way would it be useful?
Good point.
Happer is an honest intellectual giant. But, I fear the alarmist and the alarmed and the uninterested don't want to think.
i thinbk i will choose another source of information
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Great job getting the legendary Will Happer on! Speaking of legends, isn't it about time to have Tony on again?
looney two nes
There should be 6+ million views... Dr. Happer is like Dr. Richard Feynman... Extremely rare human being... Not a one in government of equal stature or character.
All the very best in health and prosperity Dr. Happer.
I've been quoting William Happer for years. Here, he supports his statements in detail, as true scientists do.
The madness of crowds can be summarised as the fable The Emperor Has No Clothes
If I had the honoursble professor as a grandparent, i am sure my life would have been absolutly amazing.
He soothes with his voice, he speaks truth without force, he makes sense of the madness and he reassures with strength.
God love him.
Thank goodness that Tom has put up this valid and reliable RUclips.
Happer is a gem, love him, my favourite scientist. Thanks Tom, you rock! Heller & Moore also deserve props.
Phenomenal presentation Tom. It clarifies so many vague ideas I had as to why CO2 is not the issue, but was unable to articulate.
Love Happer's intellect, humour and the lightness around him. The antithesis to the idiotic climate alarmist who screams and shouts. As a simple farmer, I know Happer tells the truth.
Great to be able to listen Dr. William Happer.
Tom, you're playing the big leagues now with Dr. Happer. Well done. I've watched many of his presentations including the Australian one which gave rise to this one. We need people like him to be heard but alas, I fear that the mainstream media is far too busy peddling fear, something they've honed their business around.
I've always said that solar and wind electrical generation works, but not at scale. It's great for supplementing your electrical usage at home, but that's it. Commercial and industrial energy needs can never be satisfied for solar and wind. It's pretty basic. With that being said, Co2 is not the enemy. It is the life blood of life on earth.
Thank both of you for your efforts. Sanity is in short supply.
I was lucky enough to see Will talk in Melbourne and meet him too. What a fine man he is.
This channel deserves way more subs. Excellent work!
Tom, keep up the good work. Professor Happer has such a great ability to boil down complex topics and keep them interesting. Thanks
I've never followed the idiocy of cutting Co2 and always poked fun at these ill informed activists by telling them "if I'm going to leave a carbon footprint I want it to be a big one" ......
This is solid science, WILL HAPPER: "..in the end the SUN is THE ONLY THING that counts..."
@@robertmartin7202doh
We shall share this great podcast, share, share, share.
Under the Clean Air Act, this grants the EPA the authority to regulate "pollution". It also grants the EPA to define what is, and is not, "pollution". We can immediately see the conflict here. The EPA has defined CO2 as a pollution, and therefore, under the Clean Air Act, they now have the authority to regulate it. This is the only reason CO2 has been called "pollution" when it clearly is not. This is a tragic and very dangerous fault in the Progressive style of government: where federal agencies are created, filled (not elected) with "experts", who then are free to make sweeping rules and regulations with exactly zero oversight from Congress and, therefore, no input from We The People who elect and send people to Congress to speak for us. Same has happened with the FDA, CDC, HHS, OSHA, IRS, FCC, et al. This further erodes the significant of elections, and promotes a gridlocked Congress as they no longer need to pass laws, as the Fed Agencies do it for them. Hillsdale College has a free course that explains this all very well. Thomas Sowell is also a good instructor. Thanks.
Vivek for the cure...
A brilliant exposition of the actual science of GHGs. A powerful antidote for the blind "scientism" of the IPCC
I recently saw a video of a Congressional Committee on Climate change. Someone asked them what was the actual, current percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere. Not one of them knew! Most seemed to think it was between 5 and 9%!! .. They didn’t seem to understand when they were told it was in fact 0.04%. And these are the people making the decisions on all this. The most depressing thing was that it would be reasonable to think that they would have taken the time to inform themselves….but they hadn’t bothered!
As the late Professor Salby quipped, “Climate science is a poorly understood discipline…. but it is a subject almost everyone has an opinion on…” see Murray Salby, Atmospheric Carbon, London, 18 June 2016.
Outstanding person!
Thank You so much!
Thanks for another great presentation Tom. Keep up the good work.
Thank to Prof Happer for giving his time and knowledge. I learnt even more from this presentation than from his Sydney talk.
What a gentleman and an educator.
I noticed the pathetic RUclips message notifying us that the UN associate climate change to human activity and in particular fossil fuel use🙄. Well said Professor Happer, I like listening to you, making complex or contentious issues understandable and debunking the zealots!
Tom thanks again! :)
I can't believe you have another video with WILL HAPPER ! :) -- The one of the few ("climate") scientists that actually operate by science! :)
A breath of fresh air.
Lucky for us RUclips gives us context
Simply a great, great podcast.
Wow! Now I know how to add the speed of light into all my CO2 equations. It's simply amazing.
Dr Happer and Tom, I have the highest respect for you both. But for Dr Happer I am requesting that you pause your Crusade analogy and look at some of the realist, not rievisionist historians on what the Crusades were really for.
In brief: They were a 400 years tardy, late, reaction to the rapid and brutal conquests of Islam, which in the end, devoured 3/4 of what was originally Christendom.
Tom can respond to me about links, scholarly books, videos, etc., about the subject.
I'd be happy to supply them.
To Dr Happer:I have watched numerous hours of your climate talks. They are interesting throughout, par excellence! We are all indebted to you for your calm, measured dialogues absent any malice, and filled with useful and accurate information.
Thx again Dr Happer, you're the best! And, Tom for these marvelous interviews.
Got to run, I will finish this later, I always learn something with each viewing.
I've had compliments on my T shirt reading: Tax Real-
pollution -
NOT CO 2
Everyone who believes CO2 is a pollutant should be held accountable for violating their religion and should go into climate camps where they can practice their religion in truth and spirit.
Already listened to this 3 times. Can't believe this hasn't had more views!
That's youtube shadow banning
Thank you Dr Halper. Im a scientist and fan of your work.
Always humor great for a quote
Thank you Dr Happer for an excellent lecture breaking down the complexity into a simple, understandable explanation of sensitivity of our atmosphere to CO2 perturbation. Even at large concentration change, the sensitivity is practically negligible. Unfortunately, it seems our political systems don't exhibit similar insensitivity to lies and fear. Worse yet, ignorance and stupidity follow suit.
Best Happer video I have seen so far.
One of his best talks
thankyou Tom and thank you Dr Happer. Deeply appreciative x
Excellent talk, thank you!
Even only a budding propeller head a fascinating and well appreciated info video . Thank you .👏👏✌️⭐️
PS Tom: Casual brilliance. Can't wait to take notes on this one.
Another excellent interview. Thank you.
Thanks for listening!
Dr. Happer is 100000000% correct...if you want to know why this is happening please follow the money 💵💵💵💵💵
Greed was one of the five 'causes' that Prof Happer listed. Lying for the public good, lying for political advantage, stupidity (lots of that around these days), and ignorance are the other four.
Utterly brilliant, the most convincing explanation of why there can't be a problem and witty explanation of the fallibility of humans in politics and why there is so much fuss about this collective stupidity.
Did Tom ask Dr Happer about the Pirani gauge and what it means for lower atmospheric cooling?
thank you Will
A choir of physicists and molecular chemists will lead us out of this madness. The choir is now forming but should have been formed a long time ago.
Engineers and economists will probably do this
Amen! There should be no need to cry alone in the wilderness.
All too scared of losing their lucrative careers....
@@andrewcheadle948 ain't no careers if the vegetation can't survive
@@undieturd that would take a considerable amount of time, and most people these days are only concerned with what happens in their lifetime.
Finally , a voice of reason!
Brilliant man.
Funny I just bought a barn just like that, mostly white or bare old wood. Was thinking it should be red, now I know how it would look!
Mandatory listening for every skeptic.
Brilliant, thank you!!
Thanks!
Brilliant !!!
It is important for some the stand up and rock the life boat to prevent others from chopping holes in the hull. We can only hope the truth will out.
Dit is gewoon Top Will Gr Rob :)
Thank you nicely put
1000 fois merci! Québec
Excellent❤
Thanks Tom.
I often get afflicted by the Bonhoeffer disease.
If it was not for people like you, Gutierrez and Michael Mann I would probably be an alarmist.
Sorry I don’t understand your comment. Michael Mann is one of the alarmists.
@@angelagonimavalero7700 Gutierrez - earth is boiling! Mann creating and defending the hockey stick.
If these type of actions do not call into question their “science” then nothing will.
@@angelagonimavalero7700 my guess; Toms countering the alarmist narrative, Guterres comment defies belief and Mann is a repulsive narcisist whos hockey stick defies belief. one positive and two negatives that undermine the alarmist position,
Love it❤!
Love it.
I am missing the frequency overlap between H2o and Co2 in the gh equation. As H2o has roughly a 20 to 1 ratio to Co2 this overlap is important as H2o will absorb most of the energy involved.
@robertmartin7202 H2O positive feedback is a myth that doesn't occur in reality. It is basically an increase in water vapor in response to an increase in temperature, not in response to the CO2 itself, correct? Well, if H2O multiplies 3x heat to the heating created by more CO2 molecules, then H2O would, just the same, multiply 3x heat to the heating created by more H2O molecules. (H2O doesn't care what molecule created the heat it is responding to.) So if it responds to the extra heat created by either more H2O or more CO2, it in turn will create 3x more heat. Which in turn will create more water vapor. Which in turn will create 3x more heat. On and on. That positive feedback loop doesn't happen because there is a natural limit. That natural limit exists whether the initial trigger for warming was an increase in CO2 or an increase in water vapor. I can think of several weather phenomena that balance the system, but Happer said it best. Nature fights against positive feedback loops.
@@robertmartin7202 Yes, CO2 effect DECLINES logarithmically. Yes, the 3x water vapor amplification of CO2 effect which is adopted by CAGW believers (in order to make CO2 seem dangerous) WOULD cause runaway warming. That is why it is a false assumption.
@@robertmartin7202 Let me explain. CAGW claims a 1C rise from CO2 becomes a 3C rise due to water vapor amplification. Well, that theory means H2O responds to a 1C rise by creating a 2C rise of its own. So the system is now 3C hotter. I am saying that, in turn, means H2O will see a new 1C+1C+1C increase. So it will respond by creating a 2C+2C+2C rise of its own. And so on. H2O is not a genius molecule that can distinguish between heat created from a CO2 molecule vs. heat created from an H2O molecule. So I can only conclude that H2O amplification of CO2 effect is a myth, since it intrinsically contains the inevitable result of runaway warming. If you say no, there is a natural braking mechanism, I will just say that the brakes are always on, and H2O amplification has been a myth since earth ascended out of the Ice Age.
Would a blue middle be impervious to that SDI?
sweet, you got a blue RUclips warning label, always a sign of truth
Awesome!!!!!
FYI: RUclips censored my comment on Nate Hagens interview of Sir David yesterday. I questioned Sir David's allegation that 2x CO2 = 3-5C by referencing Will Happer's 0.7C w/ link to recent presentation. Am wondering why this video gets through but my comment didn't. It lasted all of maybe a couple of hours.
I wish I could give you, 100000 thumbs up.
That’s a lot of thumbs up for believing a liar 😂
@@Jc-ms5vv Like most mind controlled people, you don't think for yourself. You most likely believe in the mainstream. This man is one of the most brilliant scientists alive, but you have to be intelligent to be able to recognize intelligence.
@@Jc-ms5vv Mathematics and physics don't lie.
@@jb-xc4oh nope but will happer does
Here's my first guess, at 37:00, as to where this might be going.
If doubling CO2 reduces the emission to space by 1%, to restore the net energy flux to zero, I'd say σT^4 has to increase by 1%, therefore T has to increases by 0.25%. Taking T around 300K, this corresponds to global heating of about 0.75K (or 0.75°C).
Thanks so much for the video and info.
Remember to like and share good people.
Dear Professor, I would like to ask about the equilibrium of CO2 in the Atmosphere and the ocean. I presume that the oceans had a concentration around the last pre human induced change of 180 ppm and if the atmospheric CO2 levels rise, may they not be drawn down into the oceans? Cheers.
Increased atmospheric CO2 causes more CO2 to be dissolved in the ocean where it in converted into carbonic acid, lowering ocean pH.
CO2(aq)+ H20 ~ H2CO3
Search: Uptake and Storage of Carbon Dioxide in the Ocean:
The Global C02 Survey
Richard A. Feely et al
Oceanography • VoL 14 • No. 4/2001
"The pCO2 in surface seawater is known to vary geo- graphically and seasonally over a range between about 150/,latin and 750 ~atm, or about 60% below and 100% above the current atmospheric pCO2 level of about 370 /satm."
Never underestimate the power of stupid in large groups.
Now it just needs a world famous person to rise above the parapet and voice the opposition to this madness sweeping the world.
thnx
The barn analogy is good but I prefer the curtain analogy where you put curtains up to block light from a window and it blocks 90% of the light. If you put up a second set of curtains you will only block 90% of the remaining 10% of light that got through so it only blocks 9%. And a third curtain will only serve to block 0.9%.
Thanks
My car drives on composted organic material or with other words it drives on fossil fuel.... Its the greenest technology possible and it provides plants wit the beneficial Co2.
Can you recommend a good physics textbook that deals with radiation characteristics of CO2?
just check on the work by Hermann Flohn - University of Bonn
Phew, I'm Canadian so I won't have to run screaming from the room.😄
Very good! Thanks.
"Avoid groupthink at all costs." Bernard Baruch
Just so y'all know, Happer has research(Happer & Wijngaarden, 2020) that predicts GWP of Co2 and other GHG's that is nearly identical to the predictions of the IPCC.
Plants also are scrubbing CO2 from the atmosphere. This means that the greener the planet becomes the more efficient it will be at taking CO2 out of the atmosphere.
Fascinating - Wicki should be well versed in Noble Lies!! Many thanks for bringing a sharp mind to focus on the current madness of crowds - so exasperating and bankrupting. Keep safe & Free y'all - and God bless CO2!!
That is heart!
Thank you, i am a Norwegian but i guess they learn about photosynthesis in children school in most countries.
But it seem like most people have forgot about this basic knowledge about nature.
Beside from that plants need it, it is also the building block for most animals with shell, like for example snails, and also for coral reefs..
To tax CO2 or go to war against it is just as insane as to go to war against air..
Emission height (from which the IR emitted by the greenhouse gases escapes to space) increases with increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. That decreases the temperature of many of those molecules that emit to space, reducing the amount emitted until the new emission heigh temperature rises to a new equilibrium with the absorbed insolation.
@@anderslvolljohansen1556 The serious professors within a field that actually can say something about this, say clearly that they don`t know what comes first of climate raise or CO2 gas.
But when the whole discussion about this is more or less like a religion where it is forbidden to ask question and those that do not follow the political agenda is censured, one must dig deep to find actual true information.
One thing is 100% for sure, the politicians get very much money from the spin they have taken on it, and it does not effect the development in countries that already are developed, at the same time as it help them keeping other poor countries from developing.
This is very good for their economy.
And more then anything, the whole "global warming" movement is first of all about business, and very little about environment.
Or maybe the Americans thought it was god for the environment and the global warming to blow up the Nord stream pipeline?
And maybe they think some thousand bombs in Ukraine, Syria, Libya, Gaza and so and so on is also good for the environment and the global warming?
Those who use logic and look at the big picture will see this things very clearly.
But those that mostly are controlled by their feelings will only be able to see the scare propaganda from their news papers.
@@anderslvolljohansen1556 One thing is for sure, if you love nature and life, lets hope we get much more CO2 gas in to the air. 🙂
@@HrRezpatex 3.7 W/m2 forcing from a doubling of CO2. Will Happer admits almost that, though it should be 1.5 %, not 1.0% since it's the 240W/m2 absorbed solar radiation that matters after 100W/m2 is reflected. 1.0 to 1.2°C increase from that alone before feedbacks other than radiation.
The main one is the water vapour feedback loop.
'Since the 1970s, results from radiative transfer models unambiguously show that an increase in the carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration leads to an increase of the greenhouse effect. However, this robust result is often misunderstood and often questioned. A common argument is that the CO2 greenhouse effect is saturated (i.e., does not increase) as CO2 absorption of an entire atmospheric column, named absorptivity, is saturated. This argument is erroneous first because absorptivity by CO2 is currently not fully saturated and still increases with CO2 concentration and second because a change in emission height explains why the greenhouse effect may increase even if the absorptivity is saturated. However, these explanations are only qualitative. In this article, we first propose a way of quantifying the effects of both the emission height and absorptivity and we illustrate which one of the two dominates for a suite of simple idealized atmospheres. Then, using a line-by-line model and a representative standard atmospheric profile, we show that the increase of the greenhouse effect resulting from an increase of CO2 from its current value is primarily due (about 90%) to the change in emission height. For an increase of water vapor, the change in absorptivity plays a more important role (about 40%) but the change in emission height still has the largest contribution (about 60%)."
Abstract from article: 'Greenhouse Effect: The Relative Contributions of Emission Height and Total Absorption'
Jean-Louis Dufresne
Vincent Eymet
Cyril Crevoisier
and
Jean-Yves Grandpeix
Online Publication: 01 Apr 2020
Print Publication: 01 May 2020
American Meteorological Society.
Excellent - CO2 levels are tiny on earth (0.04%) thanks to photosynthesis !
CO2 levels have been MUCH higher in the past. But what has happened to all that CO?
It has been consumed by plants and turned into oil and coal.
It has been consumed by animals and turned into marble and other minerals.
The WORLD has been on a climate emergency because the natural world has been consuming CO2 and reducing the amounts needed for plants to live!
Fortunately, oil and coal companies have ridden to the rescue over the past couple of centuries and have been adding to CO2 levels needed for the survival of plants, and thus animals as well.
And oil and coal companies have done this WITHOUT CHARGING for their very valuable services!
plants live then die, the co2 is cyclical in this case. co2 is low due to sea creatures (Coccolithophores) combining it with calcium to make shells. these fall to the sea floor and are compressed into rock, like limestone. also the carbon that became coal and oil.
@@SeattlePioneerin other words, David Rockefeller didn't just save the whales?
At what temperature does photosynthesis start to slow down?
@@Jc-ms5vv that I don't know. However I'd have to guess that such a temperature has not been that high on earth, nor will it be.
This is because the polar and temperate latitudes will warm while the tropics don't change much at all.
I am Australian and I know that CO2 is what all life on Earth Plant and Animal requires as part of the process of Photosnthesis it is essential for the continuation of all Life on earth as we know it end of story
At what temperature does photosynthesis start to slow?
@@Jc-ms5vv open your eyes when does grass grow spring and summer and that answers you question I believe
@@stephencox4224 lol so in other words you have done zero research and don’t have a fucking clue 😂
sic transit gloria mundi !
(1) Regarding epsilon, ε, in the Stefan-Boltzmann calculation: climate alarmists use a value of 1 for earth. They treat earth as a black body. Dr Happer quoted a value of ε = 0.7; which is much lower than my estimate. For example, earth's surface is 70% covered with water. I'm told the emissivity of water is 0.96. That led to my estimate ε = 0.92.
Is there a a good paper which explains how to average earth's emissivity?
(2) I watched Tom Shula's presentation on the Pirani gauge showing - for a body immersed in a gas - convection dominates cooling at 288C - not radiation. So I researched the Pirani gauge and found that (at the temperatures typically employed ~ 100C ),
- for pressures above 2 Torr convection dominates cooling,
- between 0.02 Torr and 1 Torr conduction dominates and
- below 0.01 Torr radiation dominates.
Earth's surface atmospheric pressure is about 760 Torr.
The results of the Pirani gauge put a huge question mark over Dr Happer's appliance of the Stefan-Boltzmann Law. Given the issue can be resolved by experiment - it's a scandal that experiment has been avoided.
Excited to hear he’s coming to Australia.
He's been, you missed him.
@@johnhewitson001 bummer
If you're looking for somewhere to make a stand against groupthink, Australia's a great place to start.