The lesson here is governments and especially politicians, are totally incapable of managing anything beyond re-election campaigns. Many have no experience running anything, yet they're making policy decisions with often catastrophic results.
More like politicians work for vested interest. As a member of the public you think they haven't got a clue what they are doing that is because they are not working for you they are working for companies
Most politicians do not even manage their own campaigns. They are actors whose faces are sold to the public. After they are elected they do as they are told and that includes what bills they sponsor, their stances on the issues and how they cast their votes.
Here's a lesson, the Chinese Communist Party was established in 1921 by western central bankers and other western oligarchs. It's perfectly rational to conclude that Xi Jinping, today, is a stooge of the central bankers of today. Marxism, communism, socialism are tools used by the oligarchs to consolidate political and economic power. They control it, fund it and organize it, it's theirs.
Brilliant programme. If only our MPs would watch this broadcast. I remember British MP Steve Baker saying a few years ago that the Government needs to be honest with the public about the cost of Net Zero; if only that were true.
Fantastic. Well done. We need to go through the suffering to turn this idiocy around. I can only hope the false prophets who preach this lie, and those who bow down and worship them, are made accountable.
Unfortunately that's a main human fault. Humans learn more from their mistakes than from their successes. In today's reality, facts mean nothing until ignoring them proves them to be relevant. Nuclear is the only available solution that has the scalability and reliability to meet net zero targets and yet irrational fear of its potential, yet unlikely, negative impacts, prevents most societies from adopting it. Solar, wind and batteries will never sustain billions of people. If we dropped fossil fuels today, millions would die and we would burn every tree on the planet.
They (the politicians) will not be affected. When people wake up and realize the laws of physics and amount of natural resources neede to get green and the cost, the politicians have all retired and replaced by next generation. This process will take a looooong time.
It wasn't an insanity, it was a pandemic where 6 million plus died all over the world. your people just became numb to it and prefer to think it was just a lie. The US have a total death toll now at a little less than 1200,000 with about 40 to 70 people still dying daily from covid to this day.
This is correct discussion. I’m a UK citizen and energy has risen by at least 3x. The government interventions are totally off the mark relying on taxation of the workers (yet again as usual) ignoring that they can’t afford their bills either. So we have a situation where everything is going up because of energy costs. Government are taking more taxes, central bank is increasing mortgages rates, and the middle classes are being eye wateringly screwed. It seems ironic that my energy bills have tripled (from £200 up to £600 per month) and our home is always cold and damp now. Total joke. I’m now being expected live like my mother brought up in a rented tenement slum in Manchester, with damp in the rooms and no central heating. Disgrace. So don’t talk to me about sustainability. You can shove it where the sun don’t shine 😂
So many people seem to forget that tax payer = consumer. They are the same people paying for the energy, either directly or via tax. It all has to come out of the same pay packet. Paying for energy with tax does not magically make it more affordable.
@@markhedger6378 wow, my thoughts are with you all, it’s not that bad in Canada yet. But, the PM has begun the squeeze, meant to destroy our middle class. We will freeze to death, as temps of -30C and colder is very common in most parts of Canada come Winter.
Truth isn’t a fixed point in space. Ignoring how much better and cheaper the tech has gotten won’t make it disappear. If you invest in oil, you will lose that investment soon, they are just holding on as long as they can to their dying horse. Time will prove that.
@@rezkitten8278 the facts are simple. Wind and solar are not reliable enough for base loads, no matter how much of it you have. If a day is cloudy and calm, you need instant power generation that is only possible with gas, coal or nuclear. There is nothing cheap about so-called renewable power. Costs of replacement at the end of their very short lifespan (panels and turbines) is never included in costings. Battery technology is yet to be viable or cost effective. There is no viable way to recycle turbine blades. There is no energy efficient way to recycle solar panels yet either. Wind and solar projects have to be heavily subsidised or they do not get built. If this green energy was cheap why the high costs always rising and why the need for free money to start and sustain it? Without oil we all starve and go back to primitive subsistance living, as per the 1700's. We are already being told to expect regular power cuts because the system will not cope. It has coped just fine before removing coal and gas power. If we alk bought electric cars there is not enough power to charge them. Most existing homes and apartments cannot handle car charging without extensive electrical infrastructure input. Electric cars become throwaway items if damaged or their batteries give up. Electric cars burn regularly, so much so that you will not be covered when your burning electric car destroys your house. There is nothing green about green energy. Yet. Perhaps one day, in another lifetime or two.
I would just ask - does Boris Johnson understand this? We have a total disaster going on in the UK (as elsewhere) as a result of bad energy strategy over decades. Excellent conversation.
Funny but my energy bills went down when I installed solar panels. Payback period is 6 years, lifetime of panels 30 years. In profit 24 years. The scam is by the big energy corporate monopoly, which is being broken by installing your own renewables. If every domestic housing newbuild had solar panels installed 16 gas fired power stations could be closed every 5 years. That would replace the reliance on cheap imported gas and reliance on expensive imported North American gas. Do you understand big energy monopolies fund think tanks to scam you to maintain their profits.
Please see my reply above. I escaped from the UK to Bulgaria - near the Old Capital Veliko Turnovo- back in 2006. Sad to see what has become of Britain - due to its successive "NWO" governments.
@Richard "I would just ask - does Boris Johnson understand this?" - I would also ask: Did he EVER give you ANY reasons to believe that he might?! More to the point: Do any - ANY AT ALL - of the charlatans, arseholes and idiots currently in power happen to suffer any TRULY DAMAGING consequences due to the EQUALLY stupid and callous decisions they have been making thus far?!
BJ (yet another moniker for something less than what you paid for) is highly intelligent & knows exactly how all the building blocks fit together. The problem was highlighted right at the start: “…a very good salesman…” All salesmen have ulterior motives unrelated to others personal needs. Typically the motives are only self serving, and might benefit the larger organization only as an accidental benefit due to prearranged agreements. I see every populist politician simply as a salesman, and the majority of longtime politicians in the same bracket.
True, but few people will admit that once oil peaks, all the economic bloat built with it will have to crash, including faux renewables. Global warming may only be solved by Peak Oil (i.e. shale fracking) but it will be a very painful solution for billions of people. We can't just go on pretending the "cost" of energy is purely a monetary thing that can be dug or drilled away at.
A subsidized energy industry sounds like the worst of both worlds. It isn't a market, because subsidies to established energy companies would prevent any competition being viable, and at the same time it's inevitable that people will complain about these 'private' companies being the problem.
I have called wind and solar farms subsidy farms ever since they first came on the scene. Here in the UK the solar and wind farms make more money doing nothing off line than actually putting power into the grid due to the way the subsidies are worked out.
@Graham Bennett They may be switched of but the way subsidies are paid here in the uk solar and wind earn more not producing than when on line, that is like you getting paid more at work doing nothing than when doing work. And grids do not store energy batteries of some type do but they are not very efficient and only hold power for a very short period, with pumped water systems being the most effective but there are not many of those and not many places that they can be built as for a world wide grid the costs are prohibitive and the amount of cabling required may exceed the supply of copper and aluminium.
Thanks for the excellent discussion. I, like many other optimists thought that Green, Cheap and Reliable were locked together. Practical experience shows me that Green, Expensive and Unreliable is the actual reality. So sad, we were all conned.
100% of experts disagree with you. Please stop the fantasy baloney. Only gas combined is cheaper than wind/solar, which is why we get to 50% by 2040 latest.
Another great discussion with lots of common sense to those of us who can see through the Net Zero illogical lunacy.I do wish more people would wake up and see this for what it is A Cult.and a very very costly Cult to all of us.
We are on stand alone solar power and believe me it only takes 3 days of overcast weather to grind our system down to a standstill. Thank God for the diesel backup. The reason we went solar was simple, we objected to buying poles, wires and a transformer but owning nothing and then having the privilege of paying electricity bills. It's like buying a shop, stocking the shelves then giving it to Coles or Woollies and buying the stock off them. On grid was going to cost us $60K stand alone cost us $34K and no bills other than a small amount of diesel.
What you have done makes perfect sense. One of the things you pay for on an electric bill is a thing called STD charges and it doesn't matter if your a pensioner using $100 a month of power or a family of 10 using $1000 still the same ,so if you want to go solar you need to go of the grid.
A thin wire and few poles is cheap compared to solar panel electricity. The Government has messes things up and made electric generation too expensive.
@@altgenesis I didn't select the system to save my old backside when things went even further south, I chose it because financially it was my best option. I knew the governments would go bad but I had no idea just how quickly and thoroughly they would do the job and it's just starting!
Churchill said that democracies is the worst of all political systems except for every other one, meaning that democracy has real problems and i believe that one of these problems is the politicians addiction to popularity. The greens movement became so popular that the politicians could no longer accnore them,so they had to get involved and thats when everything went to hell as per normal.
Communism works good in traditional family setting. A free-market capitalist democracy works better everywhere else. But for a democracy to work, you need to know the people personally you are voting for. That can only happen if the political unit is very small.
Democracy is not found anywhere in America’s founding documents. The founders were opposed to it and very fearful of it. Constitutional Republic is what we are supposed to be. Thou shalt not steal …. unless a majority of Congress votes to? 3/4 of what Congress does is steals by threat of force to take personal property from one person to give to another person. Immorality is America’s problem not spending.
@@boomie54 There can't be serious democracy without democratization in industrial sphere (you may call it socialism or whatever). This isn't me or Marx saying it but American CLASSIC LIBERAL thinkers like John Dewey or Adam Smith.
Baby boomer here. My bro and I have never fallen for the climate bs. We’ve been listening to it since the 1970s and have laughed at the people whose crystal ball predictions of doom don’t come true.
Great content... Im a Kiwi in NZ...There is only one reason all this world nonsense is happening...Leadership...by that I mean that leadership is mans greatest fail...after years of Knowledge is Power and all those Leadership programmes and seminars, nobody has sat down and said...;what is this Leadership BS?' I study history...All and I mean all leaders of some sort have caused ALL human suffering.. humans have this leader BS going on..its nonsense.... I am totally against any form of leadership.... You can blame greens,left and right,climate change and a whole raft of other nonsense...it all comes down to someone wanting to be a leader because they think they have the answers....along side religion, it is humans greatest fail in human history....... Leaders....all overrated and human destroying....cheers
Don't blame religion! Our leader (God) is not presently walking among us, and his teachings are written in the Bible (unchanging). The "leaders" you are blaming are not ordained by God, and are more likely following their own greedy interests or those orders from the Devil! Christianity teaches freedom of choice; as a matter of fact, they say the bulk of humanity (the masses) are doomed to Hell! God saves us one by one and not as a member of some group!!
@@garybulwinkle82 So, how many other gods do you worship? Now you say god, then you say devil, next you will say christus, will you say Buddha, how about Krishna, then there's Ra and Zoroaster? All nonsense; non sense! Go do yourself a reality check and read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is not Great' by Christopher Hitchens for some sense !
@@henrycarlson7514 So, how many other gods do you worship? Now you say god, then you say devil, next you will say christus, will you say Buddha, how about Krishna, then there's Ra and Zoroaster? All nonsense; non sense! Go do yourself a reality check and read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is not Great' by Christopher Hitchens for some sense !
@@linmal2242 I have read several simaler books over the years . I have concluded that the BIBLE is the REAL TRUTH , I Believe in Jesus Christ (son) , GOD (Father) and Holy Spirit. Believing in ANYTHING else would be like believing that the wef, the imf, the u.n and ccp Actually Care about Anything but More POWER . Try reading The return of the gods . HE LIVES
Simply because those in power own the media, they don’t allow arguments against them on their own platforms. True or not, only their agenda is allowed.
I never knew that honest conversations such as this one, still take place. I know what it's like to live without electricity. I am originally from South Africa. I could never get used to the "Dunkelflaute". I truly hope that it never happens in Australia.
I saw a documentary about 15 years ago and it dealt with the dwindling oil supply around the world. It was said that within 10 years , which was 2018 , that oil would be gone. It appears that greater, unlimited discoveries of coal and oil have been discoveries. I believe that these discoveries would help us to continue for another one or two hundred years. I am a firm believer of human ingenuity and I believe that we will have moved ahead of this man ( politically) made issue will have moved on.
I think oil is a renewable form of energy. Oil is continuously created underneath crust earth whereas right condition of pressure, temperature etc are reached
@@nicolagianaroli2024 > Ummmm. You might have emperatures and pressures, but where does the ENERGY come from? Temperatures and pressure might change millions of years of plant growth to coal, but if not, then where does the ENERGY come from? Please walk me through the prcess that describes where the oil comes from in your mind.
The same people pushing the green movement, already have blue prints on clean free energy. They don’t want it to be freely available, how would the corporations make billions and control people? I remember seeing an engineer inventor in the US, running his car on water, and it was working well. A big corporation bought the tech, then sat on it, never to see the light of day. Its this kind of stuff that goes on. Do you think, in your lifetime 100 of trillions of dollars have been spent on weaponry development and research, that if they took all that money and time into energy research we wouldn’t have the solutions we need?
@@PedalPowerPanther Much better to return to the middle age era right away and screw equally the old as well as the young generation given the fact we should be an inclusive society based on sustainability. I am sick and tired of ignorant people who are unaware that the Malthus theories are more than 2 centuries old and have been proving to be wrong over and over in time
I am listening to this podcast, 1 year after its recording. Ten years ago i disagreed with the climate fibs and was shouted down. Now I still consider the climate claims a lot of lies. I London UK. The mayor is forcing through a green policy, manipulating voting results and now has protest throughput London. Which barely gets a mention on outfits like the BBC.
The big question is, just how bad will it get before the cleanup starts? It seems, no matter how bad it gets, it will always be our fault or we didn't go green enough or soon enough and the general populace are so stupid and conditioned, that they will praise the politicians for trying so hard to save us... Let's just hope that some common sense will prevail!
Good discussion. I note that while the markets for energy are distorted, on balance they are still functional, if only in the sense that steeply rising energy prices are slowly becoming a political nightmare. This will eventually bring brutal reality into conflict with the greenies, & with the passage of time their fantasies will be shown to be fatally flawed.
This is starting to happen in Australia at last, we are starting to see the flaws & destruction done by the renewables and the Lies our PM & Labor govt continually tell. Woke Albo & his treacherous Labor halfwit team can’t answer a single question in parliament without deflecting, lying or taking it on notice.
The prediction that global economic power would inevitably shift from the West to East was in an article by James F. Hoge in 2004 published by The Council on Foreign Relations. It could be that the Western green agenda is perfectly designed to achieve this goal.
Amazing clarity. Opportunity costs of time and financial resources have me wondering how far humanity would progress if not for having departed the station on the train to hell driven by the Green movement.
The single most certain characteristic about the climate is that it's consistently and consistently changing. An equally important fact is that human beings can be good and can also be bad. If the majority of society gives our power over to a few people on top, the top will become far worse than the most extreme weather conditions you can imagine.
Please explain how climate has consistently changed in last 10k years that the human civilization that we all enjoy has developed? It hasn't, it's been remarkably stable and we are drastically changing it. Us, not nature, us. That's all that sorta matters, no?
@@JFB1111 It changed quite a bit. From the Holocene Optimum 6,000 years ago when global temperatures were 3-4 degrees higher than today, the climate began to cool and become less stable. There was then the Minoan Warm Period in which civilisations thrived, followed by a minimum in which many collapsed; then the Roman Warm Period when again they thrived, followed by another cool period known as the Dark Ages in which they collapsed; then the Medieval Warm Period when temperatures worldwide were equal to or higher than today, then the Maunder Minimum, the coldest this planet has been since the Ice Age. Famine and war marked this period because of major crop failures. Finally, we come to the Modern Warm Period beginning around 1800, which we are still in, a period marked by considerable advance in civilisation and greater growth of people and vegetation. These are major changes that had massive impacts on our lives. There is nothing happening now that has not happened before during the Holocene Period. Also: a bit rude, that ""Please explain" schtick, don't you think?
@@fredneecher1746 "It changed quite a bit". Well said Fred, I was about to say something similar when I saw you had beaten me to it. Anthropogenic climate change is a myth, perpetuated by people who wish to destroy the West, control their citizens, profit from their ideology, and reduce the world's population. The arrogance of "please explain" is the same arrogance that leads them to say "the science is settled" or "95% of scientists believe" and other such scientifically fallacious statements.
@@fredneecher1746 no, you are wrong. The climate has varied 0.5 degrees up and down over all of recorded human civilization. No 3 or 4 above as you mention. I'm talking climate of entire planet, not localized weather of particular regions on planet.
We're 2-3 years behind Europe. Why though? I can't understand why, we in Australia fail to see what's happening elsewhere and still persist in going down that same road. Money $$$ is the only reason I can conclude.
Heaps of new taxes, land, carbon related, energy prices & they’re also using our super funds to get kickbacks from unions, energy sectors & renewables scams.
The most evident outcome of climate change action is that the poorest and least able to afford it are already paying a dipropionate cost which will only increase in both real and percentage terms as time goes on. Higher energy costs are already causing health problems and will ultimately cause many deaths among the less fortunate in even affluent society let alone on billions of poorer nations people.
Sanity... There is hope. I always think engineers should explore alternatives, as this is how we grow. However, any engineer who believes renewables are a viable source demand power or cost effective to meet our energy needs is NOT an engineer.
@randall1715.. I should have listed engineers in my rant above. Renewables produce electricity..Not power. In Uk electricity is only 20% of our total energy needs. 80% for power comes from biomass as well as fossil fuels. Good game?? Ah - that,s a comedy show….
Less breakdowns, better maintenance. the purpose of which it to keep the wheels turning, not the cash register for shareholders. In NZ how it used to be. Took me a while to realize government owned was maintained. Preventative maintenance. Private was run down to the bone. To breakdown maintenance. While it does make more money to the shareholders the users pay in inconvenience. But looking back it finally made sense to me.
I wish you would have discussed the misery being brought on the least developed world by these unrealistic green policies. More suffering misery and death is their lot by escalating energy prices.
The simple way to explain the fallacy of “green energy” is that any of the options; batteries, windmills, solar panels can not provide enough energy to produce themselves. End of discussion.
The sheer industrial blight of wind turbines is enough to ban them. They violate scenery and open space protection laws that took decades, if not centuries to implement. It's not just about energy bills and economics.
Having devoted some 12 years to the pursuit of the possibility of a self sustaining Wind energy system, I started to look at the cost of the two essential parts - The Turbine, and the Alternator, or electrical half- of a "Turbine" i.e. a wind Turbine-Alternator device - TAD. This is what soon became clear. A turbine of Twice the diameter, replaces 4 previous, but costs 8 times as much for materials (Area becomes 2 squared, Volume, 2 cubed x what it was). The One Alternator, however, (to replace the 4) costs only about Twice as much as any one of them. So the A-bill halves if we double the diameter of the "TAD"s, and use 1/4 as many, i.e.same size "farm", whilst the T-bill Doubles. It soon becomes clear that he Total cost, T+A, is minimum for sizes where the T and the A cost about the same. Now by some remarkable piece of Cosmic serendipity ?, that size is neither a mile across - nor an inch across - but just happens to be a very convenient, man handleable, 0.5 to 1.5? m across. It is hard to justify building them much outside of this range, on economic grounds. Much more info available regarding a very cost effective system which has performed as expected/hoped for over 10 years atop a house in Bulgaria. Delivering as near as I can ascertain a full 50% of the total k.e. of a wind of over about 10m/s, as Watts (at VOLTAGE DEPENDANT UPON WINDSPEED) for use. These facts are totally ignored by current "designs" which makes the product - kW-Hrs - a dozen times more expensive.
We should use the rivers like we used to do to grind wheat, one wheel after the next 20 in a row ever so often would look ok give plenty power, we could also use the sea tides, seems to me were looking for the wrong answer all the time.
@@markrainford1219 I can quite believe that. They are like the "Liberal democrats" of USA. A freaking menace. BTW Any Tidal scheme requires water turbines. There is more to an efficient turbine that a "fan in a pipe", which is how animations depict them. I only hope and pray they don't fk that up "on the Day". A fan in a pipe will turn, but most of the energy will go into churning up the flow. Up and downstream of the (appropriately tailored !) Fan there needs to be carefully controlled xsa variation. If the three components "Rhym" together, churning is eliminated !
But these people are insane,they believe in evil spirits,also in gods galore,they are decended from devil worshippers in anciant times,and keep their bloodlines close,so they have a lot of inbreeding which has led to insanity.
A fitting tribute to bad paid for Globalist actors. I regret their greed and stupidity will end in a tragedy for some of them as public reaction escalates out of control.
I'd be careful making statements about how much coal China has left. There's often a big difference between reserves and resources (please note these are very specific legal terms). What is economically minable are "resources", while, what is in the ground, but not properly explored is "reserves". What often typically happens is that you mine out your reserves and have to convert resources into reserves through exploration (drilling holes). I had this chat with a mate who's familiar with Indonesian coal geology, I made this point that someone said that, "The Indonesians are running out of coal". What was actually happening was that they weren't replacing reserves with resources (not doing enough exploration). So, it's quite possible that the Chinese have vast coal reserves, but they're not properly defined, and as such, can't be called resources. As you get closer to mining them, they get explored in greater detail, and converted into resources. Also, undersea mining is a PITA.... You need to dig access tunnels (declines) with a portal onshore. These are super expensive, over $25000 AUD/m, and you may need to dig kilometres of tunnel. As such, the reserve/resource needs to be huge, and easy to mine, so you can get high productivity, and dig up a lot of coal. There are a couple of deposits around Wollongong and some in Canada that are offshore. But, what it means is that your capital costs (tunnels) can be vast, before you start mining (without adding any other of your needed costs). Huge CAPEX requirements kill potential mines dead super fast.
With high respect for your comments, I think that when we talk for reserves these are volumes which can produced with economic benefits based on market prices. After these we can talk for technical recoverable reserves which can be produced based on existing technologies available, and last we can talk for resources which are related with what volumes are underground. Another aspect on energy energy is what energy is produced with energy used. For example if we produce 1 barrel oil which has 5.8 millions BTU and consume 300000 BTU the ratio is ERoEI=19, and if we produce barrel bitumen which has 5.8 million BTU (APOROXIMATELY), but we use 1500 scf natural gas then the ERoEI is only 4.
Energy prices have also gone up in California, but that is because of our idiot president and governor. Biden has bought into this Green New Deal way too easily.
@@malcolmrickarby2313 Yes. I remember seeing all the pictures in a Time magazine Horrible I have corrected the spelling, thank you. No excuse just dumb. My comments are usually reflex actions. I enjoy other people's comments so join in.
The difficulty with hydrocarbons is the ever decreasing EROI (Energy Return On Investment). Although the proven reserves continue to increase, the EROI is falling. In 1910, the EROI for oil was 100... you could readily pull 100 barrels of oil from the ground at a cost of 1 barrel of investment. The oil was of high quality and was found in large pools close to the Earth's surface. By 1970 this had dropped to 30; falling to 10 by the year 2010. The EROI for US shale and Canadian tar sands is between 4 and 6. That is, the cost to extract and refine a lower grade "oil" continues to increase. Civilization, as we know it in the modern convenience-filled world of abundance, requires an EROI of 10+. The folly is that a vast quantity of oil is employed in the mining, fabrication, transportation, installation, maintenance and decommissioning of wind turbines. The turbines must be supplemented by hot-standby power, typically nat. gas. This further increases the use of hydrocarbons. There is nothing sustainable or "green" regarding wind turbines -- after 15 years, the costs to maintain a turbine exceeds its electrical outputs. Offshore turbines degrade even more quickly due to the punishing salinity of the environment. To make matters worse, after a year of extraction, the flow from oil and gas basins in the US drops by 40% (or more) which requires longer pipelines, greater inputs (water, fracking fluid, sand, etc). The Marcellus Basin, in the US, is now employing 20,000' long pipelines. This has been described as 'fracking on steroids.' EROI is falling while depletion rates are rising. This phenomena is referred to as the Energy Cliff. Economic shocks from hail-stoning down the Cliff will be experienced in the period 2025-2030. By 2030, the wind turbines installed prior to 2015 will need to be replaced. The energy will simply not be available -- it will not be available physically, economically, politically. That energy will need to be employed for the basics of life -- food production, transportation, heating / cooling and, because history demands it, the military. The globe will be littered with half a million rotting wind turbines -- a shockingly visible testimony to the exercised power, full-spectrum stupidity and conceit of the global ruling class. It will be both challenging and interesting to live through the next 20 years.
In the USA, when you consider that many US localities are in brown out or close to blackout in hot weather, that there are only so many locations with adequate sunlight or wind, and the the grid is already at close to capacity, the thought of adding electric cars, electric stoves, electric water heaters, etc on to the grid instead of gasoline, propane or MG is insane. Not to mention the energy and environmental cost to mine and refine the huge amounts of lithium, cobalt, copper, etc needed to add generation and distribution. The only hope for mankind to maintain. The current quality of life is nuclear fission which no one wants or distributed nuclear fusion generators which have an uncertain feasibility.
Here is one small change that each owner of a controlled power meter can do to assist grid stability and to make a significant saving on their power bill usage and network costs without changing your current consumption patterns. a) engage a level 2 electrician to disconnect the power feed to the controlled meter and connect it to the general usage meter. b) change the tariff (Victoria) to "TOU" c) get electrician to install a digital clock to the controlled circuit (typically an electric storage hot water unit) d) set the controlled circuit to turn on between 8:30am to 3:00pm e) request membership with amber electric. The price per kWhr of power during this "peak period" is typically half the so called "off-peak period" rate. This is not a typo. Day-time power is cheaper (wholesale power price) than night time power price.
How can a socialised utilities be less efficient than private ones, when private ones prioritise profit? In the U.K. Thames water managed to get themselves in debt even though they dumped untreated waste in our waterways, while making massive profits? How does that work out? Some things should be socialised in my opinion.
Great talk, I thought I knew this, not to this degree, but I knew it. Thanks for confirming it. Basically common sense, seems to be lacking, up here in Canada as well. Thankyou.
"Basically, common sense..." OR, it's intentional. There are too many unelected supranational organisations (i.e., the UN, WEF, World Bank, publicly and privately-owned multinationals, etc) that are pushing this and, in effect, directing national policies in the West, for it to be simply a lack of commonsense. I'm only prepared to accept so much stupidity re. 'green' issues, covid, transgenderism etc before I say... "intentional and coordinated".
nuclear power stations would be an excuse for a very heavy state control of people's freedoms. All any government need do is a false flag attack on one for the excuse for mandatory citizen registration cards or even a complete police state. As it is the UKAE police can enter any building without a warrant and can hold people indefinitely. Add to that the fact that if a power station should be bombed or just malfunction (the Titanic was unsinkable!) the destruction could be terminal.
In the last decade my city was flooded more oftewn and more severely than in the century before. The world is burning. Not a single word about climate change in this debate. I listened to the whole thing out of respect for the debate, but not a single real argument has been made. If your city is drowing and your forests are burning, no good man would stand aside and do nothing.
Not EU, they was Germany, France on the other hand is a nuclear super power, unfortunately after suspending servicing shutdowns from Covid they are all catching up now.
Excellent discussion. A bit late but take a look at where we're at in South Africa, in a large part, due to the 'green - carbon footprint " agenda while our best coal goes to CHINA. We're currently blessed with 12-14 hours of electricity per day in all the major cities. The smaller town get even less or none at all.
Thank you Carlos. Agreed, South Africa (energy security) is a poster boy for failed green policies, along with Sri Lanka (food security). Unfortunately, most in the West are not even aware of the issue you have in SA, because... MSM. However, we're going to know soon enough.
Back to state owned energy, that’s Dans plan! The rebirth of the SEC It’s all heading to socialism, Covid taxes, land tax, etc… Labours plan for AU, socialism
Wind farms and solar farms have run their race and will not proceed as it has been determined the astronomical costs are not sustainable. An intermittent form of energy as the main component is unacceptable to industry and the population at large. The shelf life of solar and wind infrastructure is short term and replacement is cost prohibitive. Nuclear is a good option as well. Here's a small sample of how many coal plants there are in the world today. I could go into using the advanced technology of thermally efficient, supercritical steam generators using our own world's best metallurgical coal; but what's the point, it is treated as hearsay and political hyperbole here in Oz. The EU has 468 plants, building 27 more for a total of 495. They tell everyone else it's their responsibility to 'Save The Planet' from Climate Change, typical Europeans; morals are a philosophy, honesty is a heresy! Turkey has 56 plants, building 93 more, total 149 South Africa has 79, building 24 more, total 103 India has 589, building 446 more, total 1036 The Philippines has 19, building 60 more, total 79 South Korea has 58, building 26 more, total 84 Japan has 90, building 45 more, total 135 AND CHINA has 2363, building 1171, total 3534 And our AUSTRALIAN politicians are going to shut down our 6 remaining plants and save the planet. Posted 8th February 2016 by harry soothsayer
Thanks for your practical and scientific discussion. Everyone had better wake up or we're in a world of hurt. I wonder if A I will be disabled during black and brown out situations? Maybe we can last longer than their batteries. It would be our luck that they get small scale reactors and maybe even Thorium for the fuel.
I don't have a problem with methane - "natural gas - being classed as "Green". Nuclear is another matter. And "global warming from CO2 is being greatly exaggerated - while Geoengineering and weather modification is actively "swept under the carpet" for the benefit of vested interest.
"it wont change until it gets worse" but even then progressive politicians will not accept renewables are a dead duck they will blame something else eg Brexit, covid etc
If we wish to be green, we wouldn't be pulling anything out of the ground. Australia's cognitive dissidence around 'being green' astounds me. This not in my backyard when we could do it with world's best practice is ridiculous.
Australia is a massive island with tide and currents surrounding it that are on 27/7/365. that will give base load electrical energy with little to no pollution once installed. It is only the technology that needs to be perfected & commercialized to make this a reality! This is especially significant for Australia as 90+% of the population live close to the coast!
Just think of all those chamber pot manufacturers that were put out of business when we adopted indoor plumbing. Going in a bucket and dumping it in the street was cheaper....but we changed then. We will change now.
Nah! It just didn’t get enough likes as there just aren’t enough gullible right wing nut jobs that believe that they don’t know it all and take an interest in this.🤔
Cost of living is a REAL pain. More so for the young that need housing. Once again, land is not opening up causing this problem. This is the legacy our politicians are leaving our children.
America needs to vote out every politician that thinks we need to meet net zero by 2030 or 2050 or we are going to be in a huge energy crisis when the cold starts setting in during the next few years.
You need a combination of solar and wind , but the biggest thing is batteries you have to balance natural power, I lived for a year with one battery and a very small wind generator so it can be done but getting this balance right is key, and stop companies holding us to ransom.
The problem isn’t so much domestic. That’s not too unattainable with solar and wind and batteries. The problem is industry which is the bulk of CO2 emissions and almost impossible to run on renewables
@@davidwebb1872 I think they can but there's a lot against it because of oil nuclear etc , just the same as with cars all the established infrastructure is there for cars now , but it wasn't always that way and it's the same for evs but the infrastructure is slowly getting there, and it will for solar etc , new innovation is always going to be difficult until its established , and there's a lot of people with a vested interest in that not happening.
What do you do when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow? Electricity is not that hard to store. The Snowy hydroelectric plant has been doing this for fifty years. Tasmania has always been green because of its hydroelectric power. Megawatts can be stored in batteries. As electric vehicles are replacing the internal combustion engine vehicles,people can store enough to power their homes and with smart grids their communities. This is inevitable.😊
@@malcolmrickarby2313 in my country Scotland hydroelectric has been a thing for a long time ,but for the average person solar and wind with storage in a battery bank will be the way to go so they have to get the power in balance worked out with the power they can store.
We are failing to prisecute professional ignorance and violations of Treaties and safety that continue to dispell concern for halogenated carbon and halogenated vinyl pollution.
I’m not sure why CO2 production is still even a topic of discussion. Spectral energy absorption in gases is quite well known, and it is a logarithmic function of both gas “thickness”, x, (in this case atmospheric depth) and CO2 density, p, (concentration). So energy absorption is E = A( 1 - be^cpx). The coefficient, c, is negative. So energy absorption maxes out at E = A as p -> infinity. So as CO2 concentration increase, it will no longer contribute to the greenhouse effect because it is already at maximum contribution. At 420ppm CO2 we are nearly at E = A, and further increases will contribute neglibly. The alarmists acknowledge this reality, but counter by claiming that the CO2 absorption spectrum broadens as temperature increases. This is true, but it is minimal. I think that CO2 heat capacity is proportional to 2kT. But T is in degrees Kelvin, not Celsius, so even a 2 degree increase is minimal. Using an atmospheric temperature of -72C, a 2 degree increase creates a 2/200 = 1% increase in absorption. Since CO2 contributes only 8% to the greenhouse effect, we are talking less than a 0.1% CO2 contribution to global warming. Are we really going to collapse the world economy, starve hundreds of millions (perhaps billions) in the process, for a 0.1% benefit? Edit: I didn’t look up the heat capacity relationship to akT for a three atom linear molecule, but it’s not relevant since it cancels out when comparing new to old heat capacities, and it becomes strictly a function of absolute temperature. So when I wrote “I think”, I wasn’t claiming a personal opinion, I was stating I was guessing at the coefficient in the heat capacity equation.
What you all misssed is the Greens want all industry GONE. Tasmanian Greens wanted 100% eco tourism. German Greens financed by the CIA playing on their stupidity applaud the destruction of Nordstream push for the abolition of fertiliser to grow their vegetable diet then cheer that Germany can no longer make chemicals or run heavy industries. Send it all overseas let dirty PESANTS we don't care about supply our paradise. Russia almost 100% Nuclear loves to talk Climate and Green energy they can see Europe strangling it's self. The Green Religion will fall as soon as the majority reach the reality that having power 1 or 2 days a week like a 3rd world country is not what they want.
Oh a fellow physicist at last. First time seeing one in comments on RUclips. You do really look like an idiot like me in every conversation with commoners :)
@@malcolmrickarby2313 on the contrary, unless we keep developing and expanding our technologies and horizons to build on what we already have, our civilisation will keep declining. So much attention and money is being squandered on this theory. The more people have their quality of life improved the less they exploit the natural world
@@wheel-man5319 You might not understand much about the Electricity Generation Industry? Typical Nukes are very flat generation. But most areas have daily "peaks" of use or demand, so you are better off having generation that can ramp up or naturally hit the peak demand with production that is aligned with that use. In most areas the peak use is during the day, so New Solar is the better mix to add to to most Grids.
@@philtimmons722 I understand quite well that NP is baseload power. Peak power is most reliably provided By NG fueled ICE or turbines. Solar is too unreliable to be a peaker system.
Thank you. So few comments after 11months time.....The Propaganda Machine is so effective about "climate crisis " and other stuff. Goebbels would have been totally ecstatic.
Accidentally herr Goebbles is not the inventor of the British Propaganda. The propagandists, the original ones, just exercised their sense of humor naming their beloved creation.
The lesson here is governments and especially politicians, are totally incapable of managing anything beyond re-election campaigns. Many have no experience running anything, yet they're making policy decisions with often catastrophic results.
Spot on. Recipe for prolonged impoverishment of ordinary people.
You have described Joe Biden to a T. He can't manage a conner store.
More like politicians work for vested interest. As a member of the public you think they haven't got a clue what they are doing that is because they are not working for you they are working for companies
Most politicians do not even manage their own campaigns. They are actors whose faces are sold to the public. After they are elected they do as they are told and that includes what bills they sponsor, their stances on the issues and how they cast their votes.
Here's a lesson, the Chinese Communist Party was established in 1921 by western central bankers and other western oligarchs. It's perfectly rational to conclude that Xi Jinping, today, is a stooge of the central bankers of today.
Marxism, communism, socialism are tools used by the oligarchs to consolidate political and economic power. They control it, fund it and organize it, it's theirs.
Brilliant programme. If only our MPs would watch this broadcast. I remember British MP Steve Baker saying a few years ago that the Government needs to be honest with the public about the cost of Net Zero; if only that were true.
...assuming they are brave, intelligent and not corrupted. Don't you think it's too much assumptions?
Baker is now very quiet?
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They are bribed and threatened to tow the line.
Full of MPs who never did a real job and are more interested in rainbow nonsense!
Fantastic. Well done. We need to go through the suffering to turn this idiocy around. I can only hope the false prophets who preach this lie, and those who bow down and worship them, are made accountable.
Yes, but far more than just accountable. Indeed pushing-up-daisies accountable.
Unfortunately that's a main human fault. Humans learn more from their mistakes than from their successes. In today's reality, facts mean nothing until ignoring them proves them to be relevant. Nuclear is the only available solution that has the scalability and reliability to meet net zero targets and yet irrational fear of its potential, yet unlikely, negative impacts, prevents most societies from adopting it. Solar, wind and batteries will never sustain billions of people. If we dropped fossil fuels today, millions would die and we would burn every tree on the planet.
They (the politicians) will not be affected. When people wake up and realize the laws of physics and amount of natural resources neede to get green and the cost, the politicians have all retired and replaced by next generation. This process will take a looooong time.
Those responsible will have retired with their pensions and stock options so will have no responsibility when it collapses, its how its set up!.
Made accountable? They'll be made rich.
“What I’m concerned about” is the colossal damage they will do to peoples lives, same as damage during the insanity of covid
All part of Charles' and Schwab's Great Reset.
So many will due this Winter in Europe
See the similarities? COVID and climate change are about social control. Most folks won't wakeup untill it bites them in the ass.
It wasn't an insanity, it was a pandemic where 6 million plus died all over the world. your people just became numb to it and prefer to think it was just a lie. The US have a total death toll now at a little less than 1200,000 with about 40 to 70 people still dying daily from covid to this day.
Its amazing how alike the attitudes are, when you compare the covid hysteria to the green hysteria.
This is correct discussion. I’m a UK citizen and energy has risen by at least 3x. The government interventions are totally off the mark relying on taxation of the workers (yet again as usual) ignoring that they can’t afford their bills either. So we have a situation where everything is going up because of energy costs. Government are taking more taxes, central bank is increasing mortgages rates, and the middle classes are being eye wateringly screwed. It seems ironic that my energy bills have tripled (from £200 up to £600 per month) and our home is always cold and damp now. Total joke. I’m now being expected live like my mother brought up in a rented tenement slum in Manchester, with damp in the rooms and no central heating. Disgrace. So don’t talk to me about sustainability. You can shove it where the sun don’t shine 😂
So many people seem to forget that tax payer = consumer. They are the same people paying for the energy, either directly or via tax. It all has to come out of the same pay packet. Paying for energy with tax does not magically make it more affordable.
It must be very frustrating to note that your new King and his son, who have never wanted for a thing in their lives, are on this green bandwagon.
@cinder8290 they have just been given a huge "wage' increase
@@markhedger6378 wow, my thoughts are with you all, it’s not that bad in Canada yet. But, the PM has begun the squeeze, meant to destroy our middle class. We will freeze to death, as temps of -30C and colder is very common in most parts of Canada come Winter.
I think that the wee green men are here and have taken over all governments.😢
Found this in April 2023.
A very compelling conversation that has clearly hit the mark, looking back at it now. Truth lasts.
Thank you.
Sad you can't discern truth from propaganda and lies.
Truth isn’t a fixed point in space. Ignoring how much better and cheaper the tech has gotten won’t make it disappear. If you invest in oil, you will lose that investment soon, they are just holding on as long as they can to their dying horse. Time will prove that.
@@rezkitten8278 the facts are simple. Wind and solar are not reliable enough for base loads, no matter how much of it you have. If a day is cloudy and calm, you need instant power generation that is only possible with gas, coal or nuclear.
There is nothing cheap about so-called renewable power. Costs of replacement at the end of their very short lifespan (panels and turbines) is never included in costings. Battery technology is yet to be viable or cost effective.
There is no viable way to recycle turbine blades. There is no energy efficient way to recycle solar panels yet either.
Wind and solar projects have to be heavily subsidised or they do not get built.
If this green energy was cheap why the high costs always rising and why the need for free money to start and sustain it?
Without oil we all starve and go back to primitive subsistance living, as per the 1700's.
We are already being told to expect regular power cuts because the system will not cope. It has coped just fine before removing coal and gas power.
If we alk bought electric cars there is not enough power to charge them.
Most existing homes and apartments cannot handle car charging without extensive electrical infrastructure input.
Electric cars become throwaway items if damaged or their batteries give up. Electric cars burn regularly, so much so that you will not be covered when your burning electric car destroys your house.
There is nothing green about green energy. Yet. Perhaps one day, in another lifetime or two.
@germanjohn5626 that is actually easy. If it is from the government or the IPCC, it is all propaganda!
I would just ask - does Boris Johnson understand this? We have a total disaster going on in the UK (as elsewhere) as a result of bad energy strategy over decades. Excellent conversation.
Funny but my energy bills went down when I installed solar panels. Payback period is 6 years, lifetime of panels 30 years. In profit 24 years.
The scam is by the big energy corporate monopoly, which is being broken by installing your own renewables. If every domestic housing newbuild had solar panels installed 16 gas fired power stations could be closed every 5 years. That would replace the reliance on cheap imported gas and reliance on expensive imported North American gas.
Do you understand big energy monopolies fund think tanks to scam you to maintain their profits.
Please see my reply above. I escaped from the UK to Bulgaria - near the Old Capital Veliko Turnovo- back in 2006.
Sad to see what has become of Britain - due to its successive "NWO" governments.
@Richard "I would just ask - does Boris Johnson understand this?" - I would also ask: Did he EVER give you ANY reasons to believe that he might?! More to the point: Do any - ANY AT ALL - of the charlatans, arseholes and idiots currently in power happen to suffer any TRULY DAMAGING consequences due to the EQUALLY stupid and callous decisions they have been making thus far?!
@@GerardVaughan-qe7ml I escaped the US two years ago and moved to Varna, Bulgaria.
BJ (yet another moniker for something less than what you paid for) is highly intelligent & knows exactly how all the building blocks fit together. The problem was highlighted right at the start: “…a very good salesman…” All salesmen have ulterior motives unrelated to others personal needs. Typically the motives are only self serving, and might benefit the larger organization only as an accidental benefit due to prearranged agreements. I see every populist politician simply as a salesman, and the majority of longtime politicians in the same bracket.
This needs far more exposure. The average person on the street needs to hear this, but you won't see it in the garbage mainstream media unfortunately.
Great, well done IPA. More in-depth conversations like this, please!
Why won't the IPA tell us who funds them? They can't be trusted.
@@pronumeral1446 I fund them and trust em.
@@pronumeral1446 are you govt funded?
@pronumeral1446 Go to the GWPF, and all of their funding is documented.
It is so good to hear some sane conversation on energy topic.
True, but few people will admit that once oil peaks, all the economic bloat built with it will have to crash, including faux renewables. Global warming may only be solved by Peak Oil (i.e. shale fracking) but it will be a very painful solution for billions of people. We can't just go on pretending the "cost" of energy is purely a monetary thing that can be dug or drilled away at.
A subsidized energy industry sounds like the worst of both worlds. It isn't a market, because subsidies to established energy companies would prevent any competition being viable, and at the same time it's inevitable that people will complain about these 'private' companies being the problem.
I have called wind and solar farms subsidy farms ever since they first came on the scene. Here in the UK the solar and wind farms make more money doing nothing off line than actually putting power into the grid due to the way the subsidies are worked out.
@Graham Bennett They may be switched of but the way subsidies are paid here in the uk solar and wind earn more not producing than when on line, that is like you getting paid more at work doing nothing than when doing work. And grids do not store energy batteries of some type do but they are not very efficient and only hold power for a very short period, with pumped water systems being the most effective but there are not many of those and not many places that they can be built as for a world wide grid the costs are prohibitive and the amount of cabling required may exceed the supply of copper and aluminium.
Water companies and rail good examples of really bad ideas…..for us.
Isn't the coal and oil and nuclear industry heavily subsidized?
Thanks for the excellent discussion. I, like many other optimists thought that Green, Cheap and Reliable were locked together. Practical experience shows me that Green, Expensive and Unreliable is the actual reality. So sad, we were all conned.
100% of experts disagree with you. Please stop the fantasy baloney. Only gas combined is cheaper than wind/solar, which is why we get to 50% by 2040 latest.
Another great discussion with lots of common sense to those of us who can see through the Net Zero illogical lunacy.I do wish more people would wake up and see this for what it is A Cult.and a very very costly Cult to all of us.
The Bill isnt due yet. Just wait...
More costly than climate change, all these comments are a joke.b
We are on stand alone solar power and believe me it only takes 3 days of overcast weather to grind our system down to a standstill. Thank God for the diesel backup. The reason we went solar was simple, we objected to buying poles, wires and a transformer but owning nothing and then having the privilege of paying electricity bills. It's like buying a shop, stocking the shelves then giving it to Coles or Woollies and buying the stock off them. On grid was going to cost us $60K stand alone cost us $34K and no bills other than a small amount of diesel.
very interesting, thanks John
What you have done makes perfect sense. One of the things you pay for on an electric bill is a thing called STD charges and it doesn't matter if your a pensioner using $100 a month of power or a family of 10 using $1000 still the same ,so if you want to go solar you need to go of the grid.
Where are you going to get the diesel? Make it yourself?
A thin wire and few poles is cheap compared to solar panel electricity. The Government has messes things up and made electric generation too expensive.
@@altgenesis I didn't select the system to save my old backside when things went even further south, I chose it because financially it was my best option. I knew the governments would go bad but I had no idea just how quickly and thoroughly they would do the job and it's just starting!
Gentlemen, I thank you for sound rational information.
Churchill said that democracies is the worst of all political systems except for every other one, meaning that democracy has real problems and i believe that one of these problems is the politicians addiction to popularity. The greens movement became so popular that the politicians could no longer accnore them,so they had to get involved and thats when everything went to hell as per normal.
You can't please everyone but in politicians actions they have to, simply to get votes
Communism works good in traditional family setting. A free-market capitalist democracy works better everywhere else. But for a democracy to work, you need to know the people personally you are voting for. That can only happen if the political unit is very small.
Democracy is not found anywhere in America’s founding documents. The founders were opposed to it and very fearful of it. Constitutional Republic is what we are supposed to be.
Thou shalt not steal …. unless a majority of Congress votes to?
3/4 of what Congress does is steals by threat of force to take personal property from one person to give to another person. Immorality is America’s problem not spending.
@@boomie54 There can't be serious democracy without democratization in industrial sphere (you may call it socialism or whatever). This isn't me or Marx saying it but American CLASSIC LIBERAL thinkers like John Dewey or Adam Smith.
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Baby boomer here. My bro and I have never fallen for the climate bs. We’ve been listening to it since the 1970s and have laughed at the people whose crystal ball predictions of doom don’t come true.
Great content... Im a Kiwi in NZ...There is only one reason all this world nonsense is happening...Leadership...by that I mean that leadership
is mans greatest fail...after years of Knowledge is Power and all those Leadership programmes and seminars, nobody has sat down and said...;what is this Leadership
BS?' I study history...All and I mean all leaders of some sort have caused ALL human suffering.. humans have this leader BS going on..its nonsense.... I am totally against any form
of leadership.... You can blame greens,left and right,climate change and a whole raft of other nonsense...it all comes down to someone wanting to be a leader because they think they have the answers....along side religion, it is humans greatest fail in human history....... Leaders....all overrated and human destroying....cheers
Don't blame religion! Our leader (God) is not presently walking among us, and his teachings are written in the Bible (unchanging). The "leaders" you are blaming are not ordained by God, and are more likely following their own greedy interests or those orders from the Devil! Christianity teaches freedom of choice; as a matter of fact, they say the bulk of humanity (the masses) are doomed to Hell! God saves us one by one and not as a member of some group!!
@@garybulwinkle82 So True
@@garybulwinkle82 So, how many other gods do you worship? Now you say god, then you say devil, next you will say christus, will you say Buddha, how about Krishna, then there's Ra and Zoroaster?
All nonsense; non sense! Go do yourself a reality check and read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is not Great' by Christopher Hitchens for some sense !
@@henrycarlson7514 So, how many other gods do you worship? Now you say god, then you say devil, next you will say christus, will you say Buddha, how about Krishna, then there's Ra and Zoroaster?
All nonsense; non sense! Go do yourself a reality check and read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins and 'God is not Great' by Christopher Hitchens for some sense !
@@linmal2242 I have read several simaler books over the years . I have concluded that the BIBLE is the REAL TRUTH , I Believe in Jesus Christ (son) , GOD (Father) and Holy Spirit. Believing in ANYTHING else would be like believing that the wef, the imf, the u.n and ccp Actually Care about Anything but More POWER . Try reading The return of the gods . HE LIVES
Why have we never heard of Dr Benny Peiser here in the UK. He should be on the TV and in the papers talking about this Net Zero con.
Simply because those in power own the media, they don’t allow arguments against them on their own platforms. True or not, only their agenda is allowed.
Mark my words...you will start caring when thousands of people start freezing to death in the winters!
Interesting that both Boris & Morrison are both history… no longer leaders of their countries.
I never knew that honest conversations such as this one, still take place. I know what it's like to live without electricity. I am originally from South Africa. I could never get used to the "Dunkelflaute". I truly hope that it never happens in Australia.
Excellent discussion! Love it!
I saw a documentary about 15 years ago and it dealt with the dwindling oil supply around the world.
It was said that within 10 years , which was 2018 , that oil would be gone.
It appears that greater, unlimited discoveries of coal and oil have been discoveries.
I believe that these discoveries would help us to continue for another one or two hundred years.
I am a firm believer of human ingenuity and I believe that we will have moved ahead of this man ( politically) made issue will have moved on.
I think oil is a renewable form of energy. Oil is continuously created underneath crust earth whereas right condition of pressure, temperature etc are reached
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Ummmm. You might have emperatures and pressures, but where does the ENERGY come from?
Temperatures and pressure might change millions of years of plant growth to coal, but if not, then where does the ENERGY come from?
Please walk me through the prcess that describes where the oil comes from in your mind.
The same people pushing the green movement, already have blue prints on clean free energy. They don’t want it to be freely available, how would the corporations make billions and control people? I remember seeing an engineer inventor in the US, running his car on water, and it was working well. A big corporation bought the tech, then sat on it, never to see the light of day. Its this kind of stuff that goes on. Do you think, in your lifetime 100 of trillions of dollars have been spent on weaponry development and research, that if they took all that money and time into energy research we wouldn’t have the solutions we need?
Brilliant. Screw the next generation/s as long as we're ok eh?
@@PedalPowerPanther Much better to return to the middle age era right away and screw equally the old as well as the young generation given the fact we should be an inclusive society based on sustainability. I am sick and tired of ignorant people who are unaware that the Malthus theories are more than 2 centuries old and have been proving to be wrong over and over in time
I am listening to this podcast, 1 year after its recording. Ten years ago i disagreed with the climate fibs and was shouted down. Now I still consider the climate claims a lot of lies. I London UK. The mayor is forcing through a green policy, manipulating voting results and now has protest throughput London. Which barely gets a mention on outfits like the BBC.
The big question is, just how bad will it get before the cleanup starts? It seems, no matter how bad it gets, it will always be our fault or we didn't go green enough or soon enough and the general populace are so stupid and conditioned, that they will praise the politicians for trying so hard to save us... Let's just hope that some common sense will prevail!
There is not enough impetus for orientation to investigate energy production alternatives.
Good discussion. I note that while the markets for energy are distorted, on balance they are still functional, if only in the sense that steeply rising energy prices are slowly becoming a political nightmare. This will eventually bring brutal reality into conflict with the greenies, & with the passage of time their fantasies will be shown to be fatally flawed.
Coming into line by intensified crisis would cause discord with uproar dissent and losses beyond control of government policies.
This is starting to happen in Australia at last, we are starting to see the flaws & destruction done by the renewables and the Lies our PM & Labor govt continually tell.
Woke Albo & his treacherous Labor halfwit team can’t answer a single question in parliament without deflecting, lying or taking it on notice.
Dr Benny is right, the only way to end this is to bring it on.
The prediction that global economic power would inevitably shift from the West to East was in an article by James F. Hoge in 2004 published by The Council on Foreign Relations. It could be that the Western green agenda is perfectly designed to achieve this goal.
The Path to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions!
The Climate Religion will bring Societies to their knees.
You have science and religion confused 🤷♂️
Amazing clarity. Opportunity costs of time and financial resources have me wondering how far humanity would progress if not for having departed the station on the train to hell driven by the Green movement.
The single most certain characteristic about the climate is that it's consistently and consistently changing.
An equally important fact is that human beings can be good and can also be bad. If the majority of society gives our power over to a few people on top, the top will become far worse than the most extreme weather conditions you can imagine.
Please explain how climate has consistently changed in last 10k years that the human civilization that we all enjoy has developed? It hasn't, it's been remarkably stable and we are drastically changing it. Us, not nature, us. That's all that sorta matters, no?
@@JFB1111 It changed quite a bit. From the Holocene Optimum 6,000 years ago when global temperatures were 3-4 degrees higher than today, the climate began to cool and become less stable. There was then the Minoan Warm Period in which civilisations thrived, followed by a minimum in which many collapsed; then the Roman Warm Period when again they thrived, followed by another cool period known as the Dark Ages in which they collapsed; then the Medieval Warm Period when temperatures worldwide were equal to or higher than today, then the Maunder Minimum, the coldest this planet has been since the Ice Age. Famine and war marked this period because of major crop failures. Finally, we come to the Modern Warm Period beginning around 1800, which we are still in, a period marked by considerable advance in civilisation and greater growth of people and vegetation. These are major changes that had massive impacts on our lives. There is nothing happening now that has not happened before during the Holocene Period.
Also: a bit rude, that ""Please explain" schtick, don't you think?
@@fredneecher1746 "It changed quite a bit".
Well said Fred, I was about to say something similar when I saw you had beaten me to it.
Anthropogenic climate change is a myth, perpetuated by people who wish to destroy the West, control their citizens, profit from their ideology, and reduce the world's population.
The arrogance of "please explain" is the same arrogance that leads them to say "the science is settled" or "95% of scientists believe" and other such scientifically fallacious statements.
@@fredneecher1746 no, you are wrong. The climate has varied 0.5 degrees up and down over all of recorded human civilization. No 3 or 4 above as you mention. I'm talking climate of entire planet, not localized weather of particular regions on planet.
We're 2-3 years behind Europe. Why though? I can't understand why, we in Australia fail to see what's happening elsewhere and still persist in going down that same road. Money $$$ is the only reason I can conclude.
That’s probably correct. A very well funded lobbying system with help from the IPA.😊
Heaps of new taxes, land, carbon related, energy prices & they’re also using our super funds to get kickbacks from unions, energy sectors & renewables scams.
The most evident outcome of climate change action is that the poorest and least able to afford it are already paying a dipropionate cost which will only increase in both real and percentage terms as time goes on. Higher energy costs are already causing health problems and will ultimately cause many deaths among the less fortunate in even affluent society let alone on billions of poorer nations people.
Sanity... There is hope. I always think engineers should explore alternatives, as this is how we grow. However, any engineer who believes renewables are a viable source demand power or cost effective to meet our energy needs is NOT an engineer.
@randall1715.. I should have listed engineers in my rant above. Renewables produce electricity..Not power. In Uk electricity is only 20% of our total energy needs. 80% for power comes from biomass as well as fossil fuels. Good game?? Ah - that,s a comedy show….
Fantastic conversation, thank you
Less breakdowns, better maintenance. the purpose of which it to keep the wheels turning, not the cash register for shareholders. In NZ how it used to be.
Took me a while to realize government owned was maintained. Preventative maintenance. Private was run down to the bone. To breakdown maintenance. While it does make more money to the shareholders the users pay in inconvenience.
But looking back it finally made sense to me.
Most sensible comment on this article!👍🏽
I wish you would have discussed the misery being brought on the least developed world by these unrealistic green policies. More suffering misery and death is their lot by escalating energy prices.
Or maybe discuss the misery and death brought on by fires 🔥 floods and famine that have escalating costs and consequences.😢
The simple way to explain the fallacy of “green energy” is that any of the options; batteries, windmills, solar panels can not provide enough energy to produce themselves. End of discussion.
The sheer industrial blight of wind turbines is enough to ban them. They violate scenery and open space protection laws that took decades, if not centuries to implement. It's not just about energy bills and economics.
Having devoted some 12 years to the pursuit of the possibility of a self sustaining Wind energy system, I started to look at the cost of the two essential parts - The Turbine, and the Alternator, or electrical half- of a "Turbine" i.e. a wind Turbine-Alternator device - TAD.
This is what soon became clear.
A turbine of Twice the diameter, replaces 4 previous, but costs 8 times as much for materials (Area becomes 2 squared, Volume, 2 cubed x what it was).
The One Alternator, however, (to replace the 4) costs only about Twice as much as any one of them. So the A-bill halves if we double the diameter of the "TAD"s, and use 1/4 as many, i.e.same size "farm", whilst the T-bill Doubles.
It soon becomes clear that he Total cost, T+A, is minimum for sizes where the T and the A cost about the same.
Now by some remarkable piece of Cosmic serendipity ?, that size is neither a mile across - nor an inch across - but just happens to be a very convenient, man handleable, 0.5 to 1.5? m across. It is hard to justify building them much outside of this range, on economic grounds.
Much more info available regarding a very cost effective system which has performed as expected/hoped for over 10 years atop a house in Bulgaria. Delivering as near as I can ascertain a full 50% of the total k.e. of a wind of over about 10m/s, as Watts (at VOLTAGE DEPENDANT UPON WINDSPEED) for use.
These facts are totally ignored by current "designs" which makes the product - kW-Hrs - a dozen times more expensive.
We should use the rivers like we used to do to grind wheat, one wheel after the next 20 in a row ever so often would look ok give plenty power, we could also use the sea tides, seems to me were looking for the wrong answer all the time.
Interesting , Thank You We must do what WORKS
@@kayoss11 Yes completely missed opportunity on tidal power in Bristol channel. Stopped by the greens! 🙄
@@markrainford1219
I can quite believe that. They are like the "Liberal democrats" of USA. A freaking menace.
BTW Any Tidal scheme requires water turbines. There is more to an efficient turbine that a "fan in a pipe", which is how animations depict them. I only hope and pray they don't fk that up "on the Day".
A fan in a pipe will turn, but most of the energy will go into churning up the flow. Up and downstream of the (appropriately tailored !) Fan there needs to be carefully controlled xsa variation. If the three components "Rhym" together, churning is eliminated !
THE TRUTH HURTS FOR DEVELOPEMENT THAT HAS BECOME IRREVERSIBLE AND IN THE LONGRUN FATAL.
They are demolishing our power stations in UK??? That is insane. !!!
But these people are insane,they believe in evil spirits,also in gods galore,they are decended from devil worshippers in anciant times,and keep their bloodlines close,so they have a lot of inbreeding which has led to insanity.
It's the most insane thing ever
It is deliberate genocide.
Yes ,what a waste. The disused ones have been very useful as film sets and even art galleries.😮
Refreshingly candid discussion 👍
I’ve trained my dog to identify climate activists glued to the road as 21 st century fire hydrants .
A fitting tribute to bad paid for Globalist actors. I regret their greed and stupidity will end in a tragedy for some of them as public reaction escalates out of control.
I'd be careful making statements about how much coal China has left. There's often a big difference between reserves and resources (please note these are very specific legal terms). What is economically minable are "resources", while, what is in the ground, but not properly explored is "reserves". What often typically happens is that you mine out your reserves and have to convert resources into reserves through exploration (drilling holes). I had this chat with a mate who's familiar with Indonesian coal geology, I made this point that someone said that, "The Indonesians are running out of coal". What was actually happening was that they weren't replacing reserves with resources (not doing enough exploration). So, it's quite possible that the Chinese have vast coal reserves, but they're not properly defined, and as such, can't be called resources. As you get closer to mining them, they get explored in greater detail, and converted into resources.
Also, undersea mining is a PITA.... You need to dig access tunnels (declines) with a portal onshore. These are super expensive, over $25000 AUD/m, and you may need to dig kilometres of tunnel. As such, the reserve/resource needs to be huge, and easy to mine, so you can get high productivity, and dig up a lot of coal. There are a couple of deposits around Wollongong and some in Canada that are offshore.
But, what it means is that your capital costs (tunnels) can be vast, before you start mining (without adding any other of your needed costs). Huge CAPEX requirements kill potential mines dead super fast.
With high respect for your comments, I think that when we talk for reserves these are volumes which can produced with economic benefits based on market prices. After these we can talk for technical recoverable reserves which can be produced based on existing technologies available, and last we can talk for resources which are related with what volumes are underground. Another aspect on energy energy is what energy is produced with energy used. For example if we produce 1 barrel oil which has 5.8 millions BTU and consume 300000 BTU the ratio is ERoEI=19, and if we produce barrel bitumen which has 5.8 million BTU (APOROXIMATELY), but we use 1500 scf natural gas then the ERoEI is only 4.
Ah… we don’t use tunnels in Australia anymore. They just dig a mile-deep pit.
Great common sense conversation.
Common sense is THE LAST THING that the media and government want.
Energy bills have already gone up in AUSTRALIA
This video was released at least 10 months before your comment 11 months before my response.
Energy prices have also gone up in California, but that is because of our idiot president and governor. Biden has bought into this Green New Deal way too easily.
Someone had to pay for the war.😮
We cannot exist without fossil fuels,period.
"Everybody is an environmentalist until the lights go out"
Remember in the war in Sarajevo war they cut down the trees in the streets to keep warm.
RUclips there is a problem: edit not working.
Did you mean Sarajevo? Where they were shot at by snipers if the stepped outdoors.🔥
@@malcolmrickarby2313 Yes. I remember seeing all the pictures in a Time magazine Horrible
I have corrected the spelling, thank you. No excuse just dumb. My comments are usually reflex actions. I enjoy other people's comments so join in.
“Net Zero” = Nut Hero.
The difficulty with hydrocarbons is the ever decreasing EROI (Energy Return On Investment). Although the proven reserves continue to increase, the EROI is falling. In 1910, the EROI for oil was 100... you could readily pull 100 barrels of oil from the ground at a cost of 1 barrel of investment. The oil was of high quality and was found in large pools close to the Earth's surface. By 1970 this had dropped to 30; falling to 10 by the year 2010. The EROI for US shale and Canadian tar sands is between 4 and 6. That is, the cost to extract and refine a lower grade "oil" continues to increase. Civilization, as we know it in the modern convenience-filled world of abundance, requires an EROI of 10+. The folly is that a vast quantity of oil is employed in the mining, fabrication, transportation, installation, maintenance and decommissioning of wind turbines. The turbines must be supplemented by hot-standby power, typically nat. gas. This further increases the use of hydrocarbons. There is nothing sustainable or "green" regarding wind turbines -- after 15 years, the costs to maintain a turbine exceeds its electrical outputs. Offshore turbines degrade even more quickly due to the punishing salinity of the environment. To make matters worse, after a year of extraction, the flow from oil and gas basins in the US drops by 40% (or more) which requires longer pipelines, greater inputs (water, fracking fluid, sand, etc). The Marcellus Basin, in the US, is now employing 20,000' long pipelines. This has been described as 'fracking on steroids.' EROI is falling while depletion rates are rising. This phenomena is referred to as the Energy Cliff. Economic shocks from hail-stoning down the Cliff will be experienced in the period 2025-2030. By 2030, the wind turbines installed prior to 2015 will need to be replaced. The energy will simply not be available -- it will not be available physically, economically, politically. That energy will need to be employed for the basics of life -- food production, transportation, heating / cooling and, because history demands it, the military. The globe will be littered with half a million rotting wind turbines -- a shockingly visible testimony to the exercised power, full-spectrum stupidity and conceit of the global ruling class. It will be both challenging and interesting to live through the next 20 years.
Great interview. Some good incite and an optimistic conclusion.
Insight: deep understanding of a person or thing. (Noun) Incite: stir up, persuade. (Verb)
In the USA, when you consider that many US localities are in brown out or close to blackout in hot weather, that there are only so many locations with adequate sunlight or wind, and the the grid is already at close to capacity, the thought of adding electric cars, electric stoves, electric water heaters, etc on to the grid instead of gasoline, propane or MG is insane. Not to mention the energy and environmental cost to mine and refine the huge amounts of lithium, cobalt, copper, etc needed to add generation and distribution. The only hope for mankind to maintain. The current quality of life is nuclear fission which no one wants or distributed nuclear fusion generators which have an uncertain feasibility.
Here is one small change that each owner of a controlled power meter can do to assist grid stability and to make a significant saving on their power bill usage and network costs without changing your current consumption patterns.
a) engage a level 2 electrician to disconnect the power feed to the controlled meter and connect it to the general usage meter.
b) change the tariff (Victoria) to "TOU"
c) get electrician to install a digital clock to the controlled circuit (typically an electric storage hot water unit)
d) set the controlled circuit to turn on between 8:30am to 3:00pm
e) request membership with amber electric.
The price per kWhr of power during this "peak period" is typically half the so called "off-peak period" rate. This is not a typo. Day-time power is cheaper (wholesale power price) than night time power price.
How can a socialised utilities be less efficient than private ones, when private ones prioritise profit? In the U.K. Thames water managed to get themselves in debt even though they dumped untreated waste in our waterways, while making massive profits? How does that work out? Some things should be socialised in my opinion.
All public services should be socialised! Essential services must be!😊
You won't see this on the BBC.
Good piece, finally some reality.
Mouth-watering reality, there is hope in the air Australia may wake up soon to this great Energy Scam
I sure hope so our bill doubled. Just 2 years ago we spent $5000 on solar. It worked great. I can't imagine our bill without it. 😢
Brilliant and well-presented indeed.
For someone from the “Global Warming Policy Foundation”, Dr Peiser doesn’t talk about global warming a lot.
Sanity at last!!!!!!
Feelings over facts.
Great talk, I thought I knew this, not to this degree, but I knew it. Thanks for confirming it. Basically common sense, seems to be lacking, up here in Canada as well. Thankyou.
"Basically, common sense..."
OR, it's intentional.
There are too many unelected supranational organisations (i.e., the UN, WEF, World Bank, publicly and privately-owned multinationals, etc) that are pushing this and, in effect, directing national policies in the West, for it to be simply a lack of commonsense.
I'm only prepared to accept so much stupidity re. 'green' issues, covid, transgenderism etc before I say... "intentional and coordinated".
Wow, This really hasn't aged well. Prices in Europe have been falling fast for the last year.
Yes, we need to store huge amounts of energy. Let’s just store energy in atoms and split them when and where the energy is needed.
WTG Nuclear Power
nuclear power stations would be an excuse for a very heavy state control of people's freedoms. All any government need do is a false flag attack on one for the excuse for mandatory citizen registration cards or even a complete police state. As it is the UKAE police can enter any building without a warrant and can hold people indefinitely. Add to that the fact that if a power station should be bombed or just malfunction (the Titanic was unsinkable!) the destruction could be terminal.
In the last decade my city was flooded more oftewn and more severely than in the century before. The world is burning. Not a single word about climate change in this debate. I listened to the whole thing out of respect for the debate, but not a single real argument has been made. If your city is drowing and your forests are burning, no good man would stand aside and do nothing.
The population is NOT RESPONSIBLE for your floods. It must be solved at the local level. This is a LIE & a SCAM for “green energy” that is not green.
Wasn't root cause in EU was shutting down nuclear and replacing with Nat Gas?
Not EU, they was Germany, France on the other hand is a nuclear super power, unfortunately after suspending servicing shutdowns from Covid they are all catching up now.
Well they tried to use wind and solar... but that didn't work... So they went to NG.
Like Napoleon , they forgot about the winters.😊
Rich people are not greener poor people in Africa are, the rich travel around the world get a heat pump and say I am a greeny then they think job done
Excellent discussion.
A bit late but take a look at where we're at in South Africa, in a large part, due to the 'green - carbon footprint " agenda while our best coal goes to CHINA.
We're currently blessed with 12-14 hours of electricity per day in all the major cities. The smaller town get even less or none at all.
Thank you Carlos. Agreed, South Africa (energy security) is a poster boy for failed green policies, along with Sri Lanka (food security).
Unfortunately, most in the West are not even aware of the issue you have in SA, because... MSM.
However, we're going to know soon enough.
Back to state owned energy, that’s Dans plan! The rebirth of the SEC
It’s all heading to socialism, Covid taxes, land tax, etc…
Labours plan for AU, socialism
Blame Greta Thunberg for over dramatising climate change, causing this energy crisis.
She was just the icing on the cake. The Climate alarmism has been going on for years. Remember "An Inconvenient Lie - I mean, _Truth_ "?
As a child,she was the one with the most to lose! Her home 🌎
Wind farms and solar farms have run their race and will not proceed as it has been determined the astronomical costs are not sustainable.
An intermittent form of energy as the main component is unacceptable to industry and the population at large.
The shelf life of solar and wind infrastructure is short term and replacement is cost prohibitive.
Nuclear is a good option as well.
Here's a small sample of how many coal plants there are in the world today. I could go into using the advanced technology of thermally efficient, supercritical steam generators using our own world's best metallurgical coal; but what's the point, it is treated as hearsay and political hyperbole here in Oz.
The EU has 468 plants, building 27 more for a total of 495. They tell everyone else it's their responsibility to 'Save The Planet' from Climate Change, typical Europeans; morals are a philosophy, honesty is a heresy!
Turkey has 56 plants, building 93 more, total 149
South Africa has 79, building 24 more, total 103
India has 589, building 446 more, total 1036
The Philippines has 19, building 60 more, total 79
South Korea has 58, building 26 more, total 84
Japan has 90, building 45 more, total 135
AND CHINA has 2363, building 1171, total 3534
And our AUSTRALIAN politicians are going to shut down our 6 remaining plants and save the planet.
Posted 8th February 2016 by harry soothsayer
Thanks for your practical and scientific discussion. Everyone had better wake up or we're in a world of hurt.
I wonder if A I will be disabled during black and brown out situations? Maybe we can last longer than their batteries. It would be our luck that they get small scale reactors and maybe even Thorium for the fuel.
This is the coldest interglacial warm period in 400,000 years… This is a massive Climatard scam?!
Loved it .... that guy was a straight shooter
Yep, he’d practiced al the usual bs and could deliver without thinking.😊
Excellent interview
I don't have a problem with methane - "natural gas - being classed as "Green". Nuclear is another matter. And "global warming from CO2 is being greatly exaggerated - while Geoengineering and weather modification is actively "swept under the carpet" for the benefit of vested interest.
🙃
"Please don't wake me,
no don't shake me,
leave me where I am.
I'm only dreaming"
"it wont change until it gets worse" but even then progressive politicians will not accept renewables are a dead duck they will blame something else eg Brexit, covid etc
At the heart of it, the lack of information or worse fake information enables a population of zombies
If we wish to be green, we wouldn't be pulling anything out of the ground. Australia's cognitive dissidence around 'being green' astounds me. This not in my backyard when we could do it with world's best practice is ridiculous.
Australia is a massive island with tide and currents surrounding it that are on 27/7/365. that will give base load electrical energy with little to no pollution once installed. It is only the technology that needs to be perfected & commercialized to make this a reality! This is especially significant for Australia as 90+% of the population live close to the coast!
They tried, in WA, and it was a flop.
We also tried in the White sea. Ever heard of it? Tides are insanely huge there, but as one can guess, nobody lives at these coasts :)
There is no climate emergency,a total scam,led by the Wef,the Who,NATO,the UN,BlackRock,Bloomberg,for total control of the population!
Using the tide at Albany Western Australia did not work
It works up in the Torres Strait.👍🏽
Just think of all those chamber pot manufacturers that were put out of business when we adopted indoor plumbing. Going in a bucket and dumping it in the street was cheaper....but we changed then. We will change now.
This is a year old??? How come weve only just got it ? Proves my point about the media.They are in cahoots.
AGREE
Nah! It just didn’t get enough likes as there just aren’t enough gullible right wing nut jobs that believe that they don’t know it all and take an interest in this.🤔
How's everyone feel about the heat wave across the northern hemisphere not. Hottest on record... again.
And year passes and Germany shut down all remaining nuclear power plants 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
And opened coal mines?
Cost of living is a REAL pain.
More so for the young that need housing.
Once again, land is not opening up causing this problem.
This is the legacy our politicians are leaving our children.
America needs to vote out every politician that thinks we need to meet net zero by 2030 or 2050 or we are going to be in a huge energy crisis when the cold starts setting in during the next few years.
People have woken up. The points of view expressed here are history.
You need a combination of solar and wind , but the biggest thing is batteries you have to balance natural power, I lived for a year with one battery and a very small wind generator so it can be done but getting this balance right is key, and stop companies holding us to ransom.
The problem isn’t so much domestic. That’s not too unattainable with solar and wind and batteries. The problem is industry which is the bulk of CO2 emissions and almost impossible to run on renewables
@@davidwebb1872 I think they can but there's a lot against it because of oil nuclear etc , just the same as with cars all the established infrastructure is there for cars now , but it wasn't always that way and it's the same for evs but the infrastructure is slowly getting there, and it will for solar etc , new innovation is always going to be difficult until its established , and there's a lot of people with a vested interest in that not happening.
What do you do when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow? Electricity is not that hard to store. The Snowy hydroelectric plant has been doing this for fifty years. Tasmania has always been green because of its hydroelectric power. Megawatts can be stored in batteries. As electric vehicles are replacing the internal combustion engine vehicles,people can store enough to power their homes and with smart grids their communities. This is inevitable.😊
@@malcolmrickarby2313 in my country Scotland hydroelectric has been a thing for a long time ,but for the average person solar and wind with storage in a battery bank will be the way to go so they have to get the power in balance worked out with the power they can store.
We are failing to prisecute professional ignorance and violations of Treaties and safety that continue to dispell concern for halogenated carbon and halogenated vinyl pollution.
I’m not sure why CO2 production is still even a topic of discussion. Spectral energy absorption in gases is quite well known, and it is a logarithmic function of both gas “thickness”, x, (in this case atmospheric depth) and CO2 density, p, (concentration). So energy absorption is E = A( 1 - be^cpx). The coefficient, c, is negative. So energy absorption maxes out at E = A as p -> infinity. So as CO2 concentration increase, it will no longer contribute to the greenhouse effect because it is already at maximum contribution. At 420ppm CO2 we are nearly at E = A, and further increases will contribute neglibly. The alarmists acknowledge this reality, but counter by claiming that the CO2 absorption spectrum broadens as temperature increases. This is true, but it is minimal. I think that CO2 heat capacity is proportional to 2kT. But T is in degrees Kelvin, not Celsius, so even a 2 degree increase is minimal. Using an atmospheric temperature of -72C, a 2 degree increase creates a 2/200 = 1% increase in absorption. Since CO2 contributes only 8% to the greenhouse effect, we are talking less than a 0.1% CO2 contribution to global warming. Are we really going to collapse the world economy, starve hundreds of millions (perhaps billions) in the process, for a 0.1% benefit?
Edit: I didn’t look up the heat capacity relationship to akT for a three atom linear molecule, but it’s not relevant since it cancels out when comparing new to old heat capacities, and it becomes strictly a function of absolute temperature. So when I wrote “I think”, I wasn’t claiming a personal opinion, I was stating I was guessing at the coefficient in the heat capacity equation.
What you all misssed is the Greens want all industry GONE. Tasmanian Greens wanted 100% eco tourism. German Greens financed by the CIA playing on their stupidity applaud the destruction of Nordstream push for the abolition of fertiliser to grow their vegetable diet then cheer that Germany can no longer make chemicals or run heavy industries. Send it all overseas let dirty PESANTS we don't care about supply our paradise. Russia almost 100% Nuclear loves to talk Climate and Green energy they can see Europe strangling it's self. The Green Religion will fall as soon as the majority reach the reality that having power 1 or 2 days a week like a 3rd world country is not what they want.
Oh a fellow physicist at last. First time seeing one in comments on RUclips. You do really look like an idiot like me in every conversation with commoners :)
Go nuclear, you’ll get far less pollution and no intermittency
Is this all deliberate ? Part of the great re-set??
Wef
Don't blame Boomers and GenX.
I'm GenX and saw through this nonsense the moment I started looking into it.
Better to blame idiots instead.
Congratulations you must be smarter than all the scientists in the world
Energy bills increase because of profiteering. Energy suppliers all want to maximise profits, and any excuse to push up prices will do.
Great presentation. The insanity of so much attention being paid to an unproven theory is bewildering
The theory that expansion and exploitation can continue without catastrophic consequences? What are you smoking?😅😂
@@malcolmrickarby2313 on the contrary, unless we keep developing and expanding our technologies and horizons to build on what we already have, our civilisation will keep declining. So much attention and money is being squandered on this theory. The more people have their quality of life improved the less they exploit the natural world
I think it's time we the people go all Don Quixote on these eyesores of incredible worthlessness.
Every country should be like France. Leave energy decisions to the nuclear experts but put on the yellow jackets when you don't get enough money.
France is shutting down Nukes and massively expanding Wind and Solar. Yes, that is the smart(er) path for France.
@@philtimmons722 If so, that's the stupid path for France.
@@wheel-man5319 You might not understand much about the Electricity Generation Industry? Typical Nukes are very flat generation. But most areas have daily "peaks" of use or demand, so you are better off having generation that can ramp up or naturally hit the peak demand with production that is aligned with that use. In most areas the peak use is during the day, so New Solar is the better mix to add to to most Grids.
@@philtimmons722 I understand quite well that NP is baseload power. Peak power is most reliably provided By NG fueled ICE or turbines. Solar is too unreliable to be a peaker system.
Great show@@@
Thank you. So few comments after 11months time.....The Propaganda Machine is so effective about "climate crisis " and other stuff. Goebbels would have been totally ecstatic.
Accidentally herr Goebbles is not the inventor of the British Propaganda. The propagandists, the original ones, just exercised their sense of humor naming their beloved creation.