I emailed them about that, back then they were using washers to make up for tolerances and center the blade. You'll notice that the liners and especially the lockbar is much thinner on these newer Tenacious models. They look like crap on the inside to be honest.
Hello there Nick, first of all thanks for your amazing work and amazing channel, keep up the good work. Regarding the centering problems of the spyderco tenacious lightweight (also the g10 version) I found out that usually the problem is a bend in one of the two steel liners. Mine had the show/presentation side inner liner completely bent/kinked outwards and straightening it back up solved the problem and centering was perfect. Again, thanks for everything, have a wonderful rest of your day, bye now.
Watched RUclips for as long as I ca remember and I’ve decided this is my favourite channel of all time. Thanks you taking the time to do what you do Nick.
I’ve got two Spyderco Tenacious knives. Disassembled both, reassembled them and no matter what I try to do. The blade centering strongly favors the non lock side identically.
Just got a tenacious. It's my first spyderco and really like the shape and feel of it. But it's sooo stiff. If I loosen the pivot, the blade gets of center and is pretty much touching the liner. Tried everything but can't make it better. What would happen if I only use one washer per side? Then maybe I can tighten the pivot down so the blade is centered and still have decent action.
Good video Nick! Got one of these in full black yesterday went to change the clip over to tip up right and one of the screws just fell into the hole as there were no threads present. Was hugely disappointed especially as paying nearly 80 dollars for this in the UK. Quality control on these knives is getting worse in my opinion. Now the bother of having to send it back!
@David Spyderco Tenacious family of knives had soft screws 10 years ago and they are still soft even though the prices have gone up. Also the lightweight designation, why bother it`s only half an ounce lighter.
So can you put aftermarket tenacious scales on a lightweight then? Normally you cant put regular scales on a lightweight such as the para 3 but with the scales being the same does anyone know?
The liners do look similar to regular Tenacious liners, but I think you'd have to just give it a shot to know. It does not work on the Para3 LW due to the fact that there is actually only one liner, unlike the original Para3 which has two liners
This is the antidote to buying a knife that you don't really need - thanks Nick for showing us reality 👍 Shocked by the poor quality control and generally (given the price) unsatisfactory nature of this Spyderco product 😝 Disassembly gives you the (sometimes ugly) truth, no question.
Gonna have to do this to mine tonight. Hit the pavement at work and skidded across the sidewalk, now it's nowhere near centered, and the action makes is really difficult and annoying to open, because of it
Usually spyderco uses a hole bottle of lock tight on there screws I’m surprised it came apart that easy. But that is strange you had trouble with the centering.
Not sure if you got your answer but it looks like screwdrivers from www.ifixit.com/ Have a few products from them myselves - not used on knives (for now) though.
Got a tenacious (my first spyderco) with the lightweight scales. Hated them. Took them off and put on some Micarta scales. Reassembled the knife as it came apart but it is nothing near as smooth as it was when I first got it. More than likely operator error but still very disappointed.
Great video. A link to the bit drivers you were using ? I just ordered the 10 Wt. Nano oil per your suggestion in another video. I am having trouble centering the blade in the frame of my Tenacious and acheiving the desired tension at the same time. Any suggestions ? I have had it for 3-4 years, I guess that means no warranty. Should I take it apart? Do I need new washers ?
Simply close the blade and back the pivot out till almost free then tighten back to normal then loosen with micro turns to center that blade. And Stop using so much lock tight. The more you use the tolerance on tension get thrown way off
i hate my Tenacious LW. sent it back to Spyderco to try and get the action and centering fixed. they said they couldn’t do anything since i opened it up. so it still has TERRIBLE centering and a TERRIBLE action. i love my Para 3 but i’m done with cheap spyderco’s. they obviously don’t put the same effort into their budget knives
Soumds like you damaged the washers. Perfectly reasonable for them to not help you, since the damage was caused by disassembly. Theyve never refused a warranty issue for me, and i always tell them ive opened the knife. Then again, i can reassemble a knife without breaking anything, and dont blame manufacturers for my mistakes. You should have just emailed them and asked for new washers. As long as youre patient, and not a dick, they send them out with no charge.
Eyedea315 ok...so the knife arrived to me from Blade HQ with the blade nearly touching the liner. the blade also required two hands to open due to the pivot action. i’ve been taking apart and reassembling knives for a few years now. your assumption that damage was caused by disassembly is incorrect. it arrived in this condition. if you watch all of this video you’ll notice he had similar issues with the centering. one question for you Eyedea...how many quality knives do you own that require 4 washers?
a lot of people attempt to take apart a knife, do it wrong, then order a knife from amazon and replace it. You make disassembly look too east. I blame The Nick.
Nick we're there cracks near the lock bar. Even if they were imperfections in the metal it could lead to cracks and lock breaking. Why didn't you mention this during video. Spyder expects a premium price........off center blade,problems near frame lock. Can't say I'm impressed with Spyderco or you with this video.
Love how he reaches for the compression lock at 9:40 😄
#1 TIP ON CENTERING THE TENACIOUS NEVER TAKE IT APART!
Your surprise at there being 4 washers present reminds me of the first time I took my g10 tenacious apart...and found 5
I emailed them about that, back then they were using washers to make up for tolerances and center the blade. You'll notice that the liners and especially the lockbar is much thinner on these newer Tenacious models. They look like crap on the inside to be honest.
Mine only had 3 lmao. Still works fine and it's close to centered. Just a beater knife for me so it's not a big deal
Hello there Nick, first of all thanks for your amazing work and amazing channel, keep up the good work. Regarding the centering problems of the spyderco tenacious lightweight (also the g10 version) I found out that usually the problem is a bend in one of the two steel liners. Mine had the show/presentation side inner liner completely bent/kinked outwards and straightening it back up solved the problem and centering was perfect. Again, thanks for everything, have a wonderful rest of your day, bye now.
Thank you for tip
Haha....it worked. Thank's. 🍻
Watched RUclips for as long as I ca remember and I’ve decided this is my favourite channel of all time. Thanks you taking the time to do what you do Nick.
I’ve got two Spyderco Tenacious knives. Disassembled both, reassembled them and no matter what I try to do. The blade centering strongly favors the non lock side identically.
Spyderco has decided that “light weight” markets better than calling it FRN, I can’t see why else they’d call something like this “light weight”
So much this. Compared to the LW para3, the new light weight versions don't really compare as all they are, are swapped over scales from G10 to FRN.
I just hope we can get a lightweight resilience at some point.
@@nonamnonam5332 Yup
Just got a tenacious. It's my first spyderco and really like the shape and feel of it. But it's sooo stiff. If I loosen the pivot, the blade gets of center and is pretty much touching the liner. Tried everything but can't make it better. What would happen if I only use one washer per side? Then maybe I can tighten the pivot down so the blade is centered and still have decent action.
I wish he’d let us know what he thought of the centering.
Thanks for advice,I've bought watches and knives on Amazon!👍
Good video Nick! Got one of these in full black yesterday went to change the clip over to tip up right and one of the screws just fell into the hole as there were no threads present. Was hugely disappointed especially as paying nearly 80 dollars for this in the UK. Quality control on these knives is getting worse in my opinion. Now the bother of having to send it back!
I cringed everytime that bit slips in the screws
Indeed, not much care and precision here, all work done in a hurry, is the passion gone?
This was filmed during a tough time for me. Don't worry :)
@@NickShabazz I hope the tough time didn't last long.
@David Spyderco Tenacious family of knives had soft screws 10 years ago and they are still soft even though the prices have gone up. Also the lightweight designation, why bother it`s only half an ounce lighter.
you saved me thank you very much
So can you put aftermarket tenacious scales on a lightweight then? Normally you cant put regular scales on a lightweight such as the para 3 but with the scales being the same does anyone know?
The liners do look similar to regular Tenacious liners, but I think you'd have to just give it a shot to know. It does not work on the Para3 LW due to the fact that there is actually only one liner, unlike the original Para3 which has two liners
This is the antidote to buying a knife that you don't really need - thanks Nick for showing us reality 👍 Shocked by the poor quality control and generally (given the price) unsatisfactory nature of this Spyderco product 😝 Disassembly gives you the (sometimes ugly) truth, no question.
Gonna have to do this to mine tonight. Hit the pavement at work and skidded across the sidewalk, now it's nowhere near centered, and the action makes is really difficult and annoying to open, because of it
Usually spyderco uses a hole bottle of lock tight on there screws I’m surprised it came apart that easy. But that is strange you had trouble with the centering.
I have the same knife but they only gave me 3 washers. Really confused, and sad cause now i cant find a single video showing me how to put it back.
What screwdriver is that?
Not sure if you got your answer but it looks like screwdrivers from www.ifixit.com/
Have a few products from them myselves - not used on knives (for now) though.
@@bback74 i already found and bought one. Thanks though.
Got a tenacious (my first spyderco) with the lightweight scales. Hated them. Took them off and put on some Micarta scales. Reassembled the knife as it came apart but it is nothing near as smooth as it was when I first got it. More than likely operator error but still very disappointed.
Mine came tight as hell straight from the box. Weird.
Hey Nick, thanks for the video! Could you please tell what torx size needed to disassemble Tenacious lightweight?
6 and 9
So this is basically identical to the regular Tenacious, except with FRN scales. Misleading much??
Were did you get the tools ?
What is the purpose for the second hole above the pivot ? Any idea ?
Great video. A link to the bit drivers you were using ? I just ordered the 10 Wt. Nano oil per your suggestion in another video.
I am having trouble centering the blade in the frame of my Tenacious and acheiving the desired tension at the same time.
Any suggestions ? I have had it for 3-4 years, I guess that means no warranty. Should I take it apart? Do I need new washers ?
nickshabazz.com/tools
How oftwn should we do this?
Simply close the blade and back the pivot out till almost free then tighten back to normal then loosen with micro turns to center that blade. And Stop using so much lock tight. The more you use the tolerance on tension get thrown way off
Is this mayor quimby taking apart a knife?
Si algo funciona no lo arregles.
i hate my Tenacious LW. sent it back to Spyderco to try and get the action and centering fixed. they said they couldn’t do anything since i opened it up. so it still has TERRIBLE centering and a TERRIBLE action. i love my Para 3 but i’m done with cheap spyderco’s. they obviously don’t put the same effort into their budget knives
bud they took the regular tenacious and put different scales on it and decided that was an upgrade. LOL
Soumds like you damaged the washers.
Perfectly reasonable for them to not help you, since the damage was caused by disassembly. Theyve never refused a warranty issue for me, and i always tell them ive opened the knife. Then again, i can reassemble a knife without breaking anything, and dont blame manufacturers for my mistakes.
You should have just emailed them and asked for new washers. As long as youre patient, and not a dick, they send them out with no charge.
Eyedea315 ok...so the knife arrived to me from Blade HQ with the blade nearly touching the liner. the blade also required two hands to open due to the pivot action. i’ve been taking apart and reassembling knives for a few years now. your assumption that damage was caused by disassembly is incorrect. it arrived in this condition. if you watch all of this video you’ll notice he had similar issues with the centering. one question for you Eyedea...how many quality knives do you own that require 4 washers?
@@poisonousnut try sending it back to Bladehq
no first impressions? Dansgame !
Robert Ryan full review airs shortly :)
a lot of people attempt to take apart a knife, do it wrong, then order a knife from amazon and replace it.
You make disassembly look too east.
I blame The Nick.
Based nick shabazz?
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lightweight spyderco persistence?
Lol
You think tip up carry is the only way because you have never sliced your finger open on a partially opened blade....
Its almost like they designed it to be off centered just to make you buy the real deal very sad for 60 bucks
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Nick we're there cracks near the lock bar. Even if they were imperfections in the metal it could lead to cracks and lock breaking.
Why didn't you mention this during video.
Spyder expects a premium price........off center blade,problems near frame lock.
Can't say I'm impressed with Spyderco or you with this video.
Looked like scratches to me. Maybe why he didn’t think much of it.