Excellent, thank you. I think you are teaching me dialectic thinking Gabriel. So new to it that I'm not even sure but it seems like it is how you think. Thanks again
im personally in a struggle against maoists in my city - trying to teach people about dialectics and socialism in power… deng xioaping’s contributions to economic theory & how a socialist market economy (or planned economy with market instruments) is possible. Also i trying to educate my comrades about how china’s success shows a material advancement in socialist economics. Carlos Martinez/Roland Boer’s work (and yours, Mr. Rockhill) have been pivotal to that - thankfully im not alone in this struggle. its an uphill battle - a cornerstone feature of Western Marxism is stubbornness, for sure. You have my respect, comrades.
I'm broadly sympathetic to Maoism, but agree that China is presently a socialist country. I would really encourage all Maoists to read Losurdo's "Class Struggle: a political and philosophical history", particularly chapters 8 and 9, and I'd encourage all defenders of the current Chinese regime to read Mobo Gao's "The Battle for China's Past". Hopefully together we can all move towards an enlightened centrist position between Mao and Deng/Xi!
Losurdo writes about Nazi desires to colonize Ukraine and the USSR. Is it helpful to see the current situation in Ukraine as a continuation of Nazi efforts expecially given that the US could have entered WWII on either side as you mention? It seems to work in an odd way as the West is providing arms to a hopeless cause resulting in the death of lots of Ukrainians and there is talk of Western capital investment (or appropriation of Ukrainian resources).
Is there a law of dialectics dealing with sudden qualitative change following a long period of quantitative change? Could we be approaching a sudden qualitative change, like the sudden demise of Imperialism giving way to socialism?
Can someone recommend some books about the CIA and Frankfurt school? Are there any books? Or some serious works about Psy ops and secret service, but no nonsense, like written by someone who really researched and backed up stuff?
This has been quite interesting, though I had a sense that you intentionally omitted any mention of the word Africa/Black/African when it obviously applied. BRICS (south Africa) . But I really appreciated your analysis. This is my first time on this channel..
Hi! What did you mean when you said that you had a sense that he “intentionally omitted any mention of the word Africa/Black/African. BRICS (South Africa)”? Hope you like the channel, I’ve seen / listened to quite many videos here now :)
Not before China and Russia have broken the back of western hegemony we will see what socialism in China or elsewhere does really mean. All before was a fight to survive as a nation threatened by the colonizers. Russia could fight Nazi germany, but not the combined west. China understood this lesson.
Do you think that we are getting away from capitalism as a society? The answer is no. I hate when these guys try to over complicate the issue using word salad.
Total flawed argument. So therefore more imperialism by Russia which for example wants to occupy Ukraine is good because with thwart US Imperialism. Putin talks about ruling vast swaths of former Soviet Republics.
Yes it is. They are actually the most advanced practitioners of ML. They have progressed beyond the industrialization phase and now they are creating new paths of socialism beyond the initial ML guidelines. Instead of trying to force a purity test in them, which is anti dialectical, anti Marxist and anti materialistic, it is also arrogance to refuse to acknowledge their development in socialist theories and practice.
@@gelinrefiraexactly. The west says "look at all the capitalism!😨😨😨" Not "wow you put the invisible hand in service of the visible, and convinced the international capitalists to invest in socialism!". It's beautiful to see them using such to exponentially pull people out of poverty, give them meaningful land reforms, and being tough on white collar crime.
@@bowleggedbear the most important part about socialism with Chinese Characteristics is how the CPC practice ML in real life. The party holds the ultimate power in capital control. The most powerful companies and important industries are controlled by the state. Yes, it's state capitalism and there is market economy but Marx never said it has to be all planned economy. He never did and China practiced a type of planned economy that is a what I call a hybrid centralized-decentralized system. They centralized policy making and decentralised much of the execution at province level. It reflects their material condition of controlling such a huge country and the inefficiency at that time of full centralized control. They still hold the ultimate power in military, finance, basic industries, law and enforcement. Billionaires are allowed to operate so long they operate within the confines of what the party allows them. Anytime they overstep their boundary like jack "forehead" ma tries to make alipay into a shadow banking app to wrest capital control from the government, they hammered him into the ground and made him an example. This is pure Leninism. Xi himself is saying the party needs to go back and read Marx again because their goal is still Marxism and Chinese thinkers need to base their philosophical foundation in Marxism. He wants Chinese thinkers, communist party members to come up with pathways into the future of transitioning from socialism step number one, to step number two because they are increasingly in uncharted territory. And he is clamping down on reactionary forces and bourgeois corruption. How the heck is all that not socialism? It is the MOST ADVANCED socialism in the world, more advanced then the USSR at its height. They completed state takeover step, they completed industrialization step, they are moving into technological dominance step, they are going back to correct unequal development, they are in developing independent financialization from western capital step, they are in the later stages of completing military self-strenghtening to resist upcoming capitalist reaction to their rise. I say it again, China is the most advanced socialist country in history, and disorganised western socialist lite are trying to disparage China for not being socialist? Here's a middle finger and go back to read your theory again, comrade.
@@gelinrefira It's certain that Xi will be disappointed if he returns to Marx, because he'll see that he doesn't live in a socialist state but a capitalist state with commodity production, private property, wage labour, market, classes, money, division of labor. I have to disappoint you and Si, the terms socialism and communism are used by Marx as synonyms, they mean the same thing to him, but Marx distinguishes between the higher and lower phases of communism (socialism). Lenin introduced terminological confusion here. Not to mention that Chinese universities don't teach critique of political economy, but rather neoclassical economics. Socialism (communism) certainly not. I'm afraid that in the case of China, we haven't even reached the dictatorship of the proletariat, let alone socialism (communism). I recommend reading Marx, especially Das Capital and his Critique of the Gotha Programme, and regarding the issue I wrote about and the relationship between Marx and Lenin and their understanding of socialism and communism, I highly recommend the works of Paresh Chattopadhyay.
@@capitalmustbeseizedbythehorns hahaha it's comment like this that shows there is no point in talking to westerners who think they know more about socialism than the foremost ML thinkers and praxis in China.
Why are you two not economical anarchists? Has not the State as ideology over and over again, both left and right, shown its destructive power over us humans?
Excellent, thank you.
I think you are teaching me dialectic thinking Gabriel. So new to it that I'm not even sure but it seems like it is how you think. Thanks again
im personally in a struggle against maoists in my city - trying to teach people about dialectics and socialism in power… deng xioaping’s contributions to economic theory & how a socialist market economy (or planned economy with market instruments) is possible. Also i trying to educate my comrades about how china’s success shows a material advancement in socialist economics. Carlos Martinez/Roland Boer’s work (and yours, Mr. Rockhill) have been pivotal to that - thankfully im not alone in this struggle.
its an uphill battle - a cornerstone feature of Western Marxism is stubbornness, for sure. You have my respect, comrades.
I'm broadly sympathetic to Maoism, but agree that China is presently a socialist country.
I would really encourage all Maoists to read Losurdo's "Class Struggle: a political and philosophical history", particularly chapters 8 and 9, and I'd encourage all defenders of the current Chinese regime to read Mobo Gao's "The Battle for China's Past".
Hopefully together we can all move towards an enlightened centrist position between Mao and Deng/Xi!
Sound and inspiring.
But the Western hegemon keeps telling us: China bad! 😅
China very very bad!
That's what everyone tells me when they ask how I afford things and I tell them I buy it from China
Bad for their bottom line and control of the people.
I mean they are imperialists but if we are actually going to compare, the US and western imperialism in general is objectively worse
@@Ftjxmmged isn't almost everything from China? Chinese just want to live decent lives. They deserve it.
@@kmfdm5 freeing countries from imperialism doesn't make you imperialist
Thanks
Much appreciated!
Losurdo writes about Nazi desires to colonize Ukraine and the USSR. Is it helpful to see the current situation in Ukraine as a continuation of Nazi efforts expecially given that the US could have entered WWII on either side as you mention? It seems to work in an odd way as the West is providing arms to a hopeless cause resulting in the death of lots of Ukrainians and there is talk of Western capital investment (or appropriation of Ukrainian resources).
Could you share particular works? I would love to read it
@@darias.4440 War and Revolution.
Is there a law of dialectics dealing with sudden qualitative change following a long period of quantitative change? Could we be approaching a sudden qualitative change, like the sudden demise of Imperialism giving way to socialism?
Inshallah 😉
I think it's inevitable for many reasons.
Emergentism
I think im ready to retire from politics
Can someone recommend some books about the CIA and Frankfurt school? Are there any books? Or some serious works about Psy ops and secret service, but no nonsense, like written by someone who really researched and backed up stuff?
Check out Aaron Good. He's an expert. His book is called American Exception. He has a podcast as well.
This has been quite interesting, though I had a sense that you intentionally omitted any mention of the word Africa/Black/African when it obviously applied. BRICS (south Africa) . But I really appreciated your analysis. This is my first time on this channel..
Hi! What did you mean when you said that you had a sense that he “intentionally omitted any mention of the word Africa/Black/African. BRICS (South Africa)”?
Hope you like the channel, I’ve seen / listened to quite many videos here now :)
When was this recorded?
These videos were taken from other channels.
Not so..the interview was edited to remove the questions, in many instances.
It's a compilation of different talks and interviews
Not before China and Russia have broken the back of western hegemony we will see what socialism in China or elsewhere does really mean.
All before was a fight to survive as a nation threatened by the colonizers. Russia could fight Nazi germany, but not the combined west.
China understood this lesson.
Do you think that we are getting away from capitalism as a society? The answer is no. I hate when these guys try to over complicate the issue using word salad.
He's an intellectual. An academic. It's what he does.
You’re aware he provided a direct answer to the question, right?
He pretty explicitly said yes, and he explained why in detail. It's not "word salad" just because he talks a lot.
Apologetics for the new imperialists.
Total flawed argument. So therefore more imperialism by Russia which for example wants to occupy Ukraine is good because with thwart US Imperialism. Putin talks about ruling vast swaths of former Soviet Republics.
That's not accurate. Where did you hear that from the Western MSM?
China is not a socialist country I'm afraid.
Yes it is. They are actually the most advanced practitioners of ML. They have progressed beyond the industrialization phase and now they are creating new paths of socialism beyond the initial ML guidelines.
Instead of trying to force a purity test in them, which is anti dialectical, anti Marxist and anti materialistic, it is also arrogance to refuse to acknowledge their development in socialist theories and practice.
@@gelinrefiraexactly. The west says "look at all the capitalism!😨😨😨" Not "wow you put the invisible hand in service of the visible, and convinced the international capitalists to invest in socialism!".
It's beautiful to see them using such to exponentially pull people out of poverty, give them meaningful land reforms, and being tough on white collar crime.
@@bowleggedbear the most important part about socialism with Chinese Characteristics is how the CPC practice ML in real life.
The party holds the ultimate power in capital control. The most powerful companies and important industries are controlled by the state. Yes, it's state capitalism and there is market economy but Marx never said it has to be all planned economy. He never did and China practiced a type of planned economy that is a what I call a hybrid centralized-decentralized system.
They centralized policy making and decentralised much of the execution at province level. It reflects their material condition of controlling such a huge country and the inefficiency at that time of full centralized control.
They still hold the ultimate power in military, finance, basic industries, law and enforcement. Billionaires are allowed to operate so long they operate within the confines of what the party allows them. Anytime they overstep their boundary like jack "forehead" ma tries to make alipay into a shadow banking app to wrest capital control from the government, they hammered him into the ground and made him an example. This is pure Leninism.
Xi himself is saying the party needs to go back and read Marx again because their goal is still Marxism and Chinese thinkers need to base their philosophical foundation in Marxism. He wants Chinese thinkers, communist party members to come up with pathways into the future of transitioning from socialism step number one, to step number two because they are increasingly in uncharted territory. And he is clamping down on reactionary forces and bourgeois corruption.
How the heck is all that not socialism? It is the MOST ADVANCED socialism in the world, more advanced then the USSR at its height.
They completed state takeover step, they completed industrialization step, they are moving into technological dominance step, they are going back to correct unequal development, they are in developing independent financialization from western capital step, they are in the later stages of completing military self-strenghtening to resist upcoming capitalist reaction to their rise. I say it again, China is the most advanced socialist country in history, and disorganised western socialist lite are trying to disparage China for not being socialist? Here's a middle finger and go back to read your theory again, comrade.
@@gelinrefira It's certain that Xi will be disappointed if he returns to Marx, because he'll see that he doesn't live in a socialist state but a capitalist state with commodity production, private property, wage labour, market, classes, money, division of labor. I have to disappoint you and Si, the terms socialism and communism are used by Marx as synonyms, they mean the same thing to him, but Marx distinguishes between the higher and lower phases of communism (socialism). Lenin introduced terminological confusion here. Not to mention that Chinese universities don't teach critique of political economy, but rather neoclassical economics. Socialism (communism) certainly not. I'm afraid that in the case of China, we haven't even reached the dictatorship of the proletariat, let alone socialism (communism). I recommend reading Marx, especially Das Capital and his Critique of the Gotha Programme, and regarding the issue I wrote about and the relationship between Marx and Lenin and their understanding of socialism and communism, I highly recommend the works of Paresh Chattopadhyay.
@@capitalmustbeseizedbythehorns hahaha it's comment like this that shows there is no point in talking to westerners who think they know more about socialism than the foremost ML thinkers and praxis in China.
Unsubscribed from this garbage, where every other video Rockhill is making a false claim that China is “socialist."
bye
China claims it is socialist. But of course, what do they know about their own thing hey.
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I subscribed. China is socialist AND capitalist.
@@lucyngpellicioli386 It's called a mixed economy.
Why are you two not economical anarchists? Has not the State as ideology over and over again, both left and right, shown its destructive power over us humans?