It reminds me of Orvil episode were children were singing that tomorrow the sun will shine to aliens that are vampire level sensitive to the sun so while for us it was a cute play for them it was a horror story
Our sun gave us the light and energy to become what we are, and to then to see other stars in person. We owe everything to it, and it’s been burning longer than our planet existed, and will burn for so many more years it’s practically impossible to actually imagine the time period when it will die. When that time comes, though, if we are still here, and still human in any way we would recognize now, I think humanity will either keep our sun alive by basically using the mass of other stars to perpetuate the fusion reaction at the core or we will let the sun have its rest. We will either return it to its prime or we will throw it a funeral, one fit for the source of life and light that’s let us carry our own into the eternal darkness of the deep cosmos
@@izayaorihara7059 stellar lifting. you know how solar flares throw out gigantic masses of hot gases? stellar lifting is the process of placing structures around a star to magnetically funnel and somewhat control these ejections, capture them and harvest them for resources.
Now I want a HFY story where we armor plated the dyson sphere. Aliens come to glass a planet, only to find a "space station" 1.0 AU in radius with a death laser the strength of the total output of the sun for 1 second.... every second.
I can kind of imagine us doing something like that, but also figuring out a way to move the Dyson Sphere, using that to reverse orbit the galaxy, creating more of these Dyson spheres as we do. Then one day someone starts a war with humanity, only to find their home system ripped apart by the gravitational pull of a thousand Dyson spheres surrounding it.
@@imjang2430 when I say I'm not good at writing, I mean every time I sit down to try and write anything creative, within ten minutes, I want to put a loaded shotgun in my mouth and pull the trigger. Due to the absolutely crap school system here in England, I have been conditioned to the point where me attempting creative writing is a more effective torture method than putting Justin Bieber on a perpetual loop, whilst getting stung repeatedly by a gympy gympy tree, all while bamboo is placed to grow in such a way that it would not only slowly tear out my fingernails, but simultaneously skewer my testicles and split my urethra in half... Whilst being on fire.
I'm surprised that they didn't mention any star lifting to mine the sun for resources or extending the life of the star. According to a old Isaac Author episode. We could extend our sun's life fifty to one hundred percent by managing it's red phase. Maybe even turn it into a white dwarf later on.
Hell, if we siphon the heavy metals from our star and feed it the right material we can extend its life for essentially to the point the Great Dark begins. Not easy mind you, but something humanity might do for sentimental reasons.
@@Elmithian ; True but that would be costly for the expenditure of time and resources. The humans in the story gave me the impression that they would have maybe turned thier Dyson Sphere into an arc of some sorts like the moon fall movie that came out recently.
@@davidvincent5701 True true. Plus, I mean, if it is fully encapsulated Sun, they could literally use it as an engine to push in a certain direction. Not fast mind you, but plenty enough to reach another star in hundred thousand years or so. And seriously, Arthur is such a good source for semi hard-science fiction material.
@@davidvincent5701 with the right method the stat itself could be the propulsion system for such an arc. Slow in astronomical terms but I h so very efficient in terms of capacity, energy availability and relative defence. After all who is going to mess with someone using a dyson star as their carriage, a fraction of a percent of the energy outside it would turn all their mobile assets to slag not to mention the potential for atmospheric damage.
Figures. We tame and pack bond with anything. Our favorites are mildly dangerous predators and inanimate objects. A star actually does fall under both of those categories. And, according to The Bible, Earth is our inheritance, so, when we reach that level, it is our Sacred duty to tame Sol. Personally, I think we should build the Dyson sphere/swarm* in the area where the asteroid belt is. Leave Earth intact and pull the material from the belts and the Oort Cloud. * Dyson's initial concept for the Dyson Sphere was a fleet of millions to billions of satellites and habitats, not a solid sphere. However I think it's very likely to start as the original concept and become the solid version later. 🤔
Oort Cloud is the thing that keeps you safe from an alien invader's fleets. When colliding at relativistic speed with a relatively small iron-nickel asteroid (from a couple of tens of kilograms to a couple of hundred tons), 5-8 orders of magnitude more energy is released than when average thermonuclear bomb explodes. It is an ultimate speed bump.
The Ultimate base is a dyson sphere like this but built where the ort cloud is, but somehow still entirely habitable, and maybe if your insane enough at least a few planets think, so be prepared to eat half a galaxy if not more for it
@@123domo8 Nah, we have enough material in this system alone for a proper Dyson Sphere of either type, so long as it's no more than a few kilometers thick. Depending on which planets and planetoids we decide to keep I doubt we'll need more than a few planets in the local cluster, even for an Oort Cloud level Sphere. There are no known materials that can handle a solid Dyson Sphere more than a half dozen or so kilometers in thickness. At 5Km thick, the volume of an Earth sized planet would cover an area of approximately 200 MILLION kilometers square. So about a million times earth's volume should do it; and there's several times that in the Oort Cloud, so we could pull off a Sphere roughly Earth's orbit without dismantling hardly anything in the main Solar System.
@@taitano12 a km thick, not even close. Maybe a few nanometers thick if your lucky and about 1mm from the surface of the sun (so its gonna get a bit warm). The Oort clouds exact mass is unknown, but current theories put its total mass at about 1.9x that of the Earth. Yes its massive but it's also basically empty, with an average of few atoms per cubic meter (compared to 0.3 for empty space, and 3x10²³ on Earth). Consider creating a shell around the Earth 1km thick a mere 200km from the surface would take a larger mass of material than Mars and most of its moons combined. Those orbital ring platforms scifi loves would actually use more material than most solar systems have floating around without having to strip mine planet, and that's before you get into the physics involved in creating a rigid structure around a planetary body. The materials to build it simply don't exist, no known material has the properties to survive the forces involved. A solid sphere would be even harder to make, as the forces involved are exponentially higher and more unpredictable, hence why a swarm is a much better concept. Problem is by the time you have the materials physics and means to gather enough materials (harvesting a few hundred solar systems) your already at a point were this is a passion project as you don't need the energy, it would take more energy to build and maintain the swarm than it will ever provide.
Two different stories. But everyone calls it dirt is a story where a zenos invade a planet named Ferrari. There is one where the zenos offer to blow up earth. Because every world that can produce life is terrible and worth destroying, but I can't remember the name of it.
@@shawnlylebond8873 IIRC, the one about the destroying planets was something along the lines of "when a race develops sapience, so does their planet, this usually results in a death struggle, whilst humanity eventually became symbiotic with their sapient planets." As for the naming their planet dirt one, the only one I can remember with a name like that was basically saying," welcome to the galactic community latest earth, seems that by some coincidence of sapience, every sapient species names their home planet their languages equivalent of earth/dirt, with the exceptions being those who had natural flight calling it sky and those who where aquatic calling it water or ocean. Basically, we all called our home planets after the aspect of it which nurtured us into what we are today. "
Ok I was wrong, they are different story’s. “But everyone calls they’re planet dirt” is an alien military takeover discovering that the human “home planet” has portal tech, and thus doesn’t need FTL. They discover this after leaning that “Ferrari” (the planet name) doesn’t mean dirt.
Magnificent, they can at least relax knowing we will at least try to be polite to any alien races we encounter and will offer the best hospitality we can.
I've personally always found dyson swarms to be more realistic than dyson spheres. Less materials, more reparable, and you can still shine it on earth.
Greetings, Mentlegent! For the Rhythm that is Algo Okay, I give the writer credit for coming up with a genuinely alien viewpoint, which is almost impossible to do. But really, so afraid of the cradle of life? Stars are dangerous, sure. But to want to stop them from existing? To prevent any new life from forming? This may yet end in violence between those of us who know we need stars, and those who don't.
As long as they dont try to hurt our big glowy ball in the sky, friends. If they try to hurt the big glowy ball... *lets be xenophobic, its really in this year*
I see no reason to not be friends. Nothing that we are doing could be construed to be a danger to the others. Just depends on how they react to us. That is where the fear comes into play.
I am emotionally attached to a broken wooden spoon I took with me when I moved out of my parents house ten years ago. It makes everything I cook taste better.
With this, I can appreciate merry weather depiction of sun as being a celestial waifu. We literally grew so attached to her that we armed and protected it, who tf armed and protect a star? Well that was a rhetorical question, ofc it would be us!
Great story. Only problem is, given how skilled humans are at first contact (more so than the yama, apparently) humanity should not have been surprised that the yama would view stars as insanely dangerous.
I think we just prepared for it enough, also humanity may have found other young or non sentient species previously and gotten used to alien life enough to make contact in this way
Team Dyson Swarm: surround star with millions of individual habitats. Realistic sizes, realistic materials Dyson Sphere is just too much no. Magical materials needed. Also, all eggs in one basket.
@@WE_DONT_LIEyou’d dare insult the great DOOM laser by only having one, in a big ass Death Star? The one that got taken out by a single ship? If that’s how you roll go ahead but me? I’m team SWARM of DOOM lasers. Seriously though it would actually be a lot easier to make a massive fuck off laser with a Dyson swarm rather than sphere, bc we have to design the infrastructure for it, so having it embedded into a hard shell that it broken completely compromises many key systems and could lead to the entire thing collapsing is gonna be a lot more of a risk and much harder to do efficiently than it would be to create the energy relay systems to run 1 big laser separately and funnel it into the DOOM laser that way or just make a bunch of smaller ones. Ooo, scary sci fi weapon idea- the kugelblitz cannon. you take meta materials that will alter the way it interacts with light to make a material that can make things like a perfect mirror or it’s opposite(Isaac Arthur’s meta materials video is where I got the concept if you want the info I know I can’t provide bc I’m not that knowledgeable on the specifics.) and use it to create a relay system for photons that can be fed into anything from power storage(for internal weapons systems) to energy converters(to put energy into things with mass) and what I call casual assembly system, which is Process the weapon goes through to fire. Essentially, you’re using light as part the material and energy for a semi ballistic black hole round fired FTL out of a massive fuck off cannon via the pressure of even more light: The round is made by having meta lenses funnel light through a series of energy converters and mirrors to essentially form a kugelblitz black hole in the center of a specialized tungsten round that is stored in the center of a rod made from meta and Mundane materials that are designed to contain the black hole and keep it from falling out of the rod, as well as have the outer layer absorb 100% of light energy that hits it and convert it to Kinetic energy, with 2 lense thrusters powered by that stored energy. The round would also contain a warp device triggered by high energy output so it can travel FTL. It’s fired by having lenses, energy converters snd mirrors collect and store light energy into a directed pulse of the unconverted light energy and converted kinetic energy that blasts the rod at an instant 99% of light speed, activating the warp device and as it exits warp, directs half of the remaining stored energy from the pulse into the thrusters AS it’s transitioning out of FTL to give it a wicked speed boost. The impact isn’t just carrying the total energy of the causal round, it also goes boom: Personally I think the design is very human- a gun that shoots both a relativistic kill missile AND a kugelblitz black hole simultaneously at FTL speeds that then boosts faster than FTL as its entering spacetime(basically telling the laws of physics to go fuck themselves and sending mass FTL without using infinite energy) The last stage before impact has the various systems work to convert then direct all the energy available left into a pulse directly into the black hole. This essentially destroys the containment field right before impact so the shot delivers all the Kinect force of the singularity weighted round but near instantly after causes the black hole to swell in size to the point it now has an event horizon big enough to actually start consuming matter. This makes the BH both latch onto the target and guaranteed the consumption of anything left but also releases a massive amount of energy(when a BH eats something it does release energy, usually just a tiny amount tho), to the point where a big enough feast can let off supernova tier explosions, and this feast is more than enough. This is the type of gun that takes out a solar system in a single shot. Imagine getting hit by a reality defying RKM, a supernova tier explosion and the impact of a black holes equivalent mass energy
Nice story, and with a touch of humor. Fear of all suns is an unusual angle, and by a space faring race. Definitely odd, and interesting. I've come across Dyson spheres before in both fiction and non fiction, so the concept isn't new to me but I've always been fascinated by the concept. Having the Dyson Sphere humans encounter star faring aliens who are afraid of suns is novel. Another poster pointed out that rather than having an excessive fear of the sun humans are likely to put a smiley face on it.😄 This is true. Many of us are aware of the very real dangers that the sun poses, but we are also aware of the benefits it provides. We can't even live without it. I worry about massive solar flares, but I can't do anything about them, so I'd rather think of smiley faces on the sun, 😄
If you think about it starts are just naturally occurring fusion balls. And a Dyson sphere is the idea of building a star size fusion reaction energy device around it. Dyson was like, fuck small. How mundane. Work to start it? Bah! Just build the device around the already started ball of energy. It's work, but it's straight forward damnit!
humanity is so confused in all of these storys like "why are you afraid of this thing? its not anything new! theres been BIILLIONS of stars before ours and there will be billions more by the time we are all dust- this cant be new no way- also in a parrel world coal was unobtainium? in games unobtainium is usually the dense'ed yet strongest alloy metal thing we have yet for u its a type of coal- wut?" contrast is insane xD
ahahahaha...now then imagine when their find out we as humanity can tame basically anything......and if any race have bad intention on our sun..... yea i think human gladly introduce Exterminatus to them...🤣🤣🤣 anyway thanks as always
hahaha, in the end, the truth of the matter is... we likely don't need to deconstruct all the planets to build a dyson sphere. there's enough resources without touching the inner planets
Yes, stars can do a great many things that can damage or destroy life. But they are also responsible for it. But it is possible to learn the warning signs of it's "misbehaviors" and cope with or prevent them (eventually). Once you can do that, why give up the warmth and power a star can provide?
Weird that a human would think the sun is out to kill us. Must have a strange mind to come up with that idea.. and human Yes after all the author is human
It's not as strange to think a human would come up with this idea with how often we anthromorphize celestial bodies, and then add in ideas where Earth is a psychotic bitch that has done everything she could to destroy us, or even SCP-001 When Daybreaks.
Look up Black sun theory( not the Nazi crap.) Theory goes every 12k years the sun micro nova. Something seem to happen to the earth every 12k years. Atlantis was 12k years ago.
This would be so ideal for humans. We finally go fully intergalactic and find loads of star systems abandoned as soon as the original races were uplifted?
Proxima Centauri, is closest to us and is a red dwarf "RD" star (so are 50 of the nearest stars) but the energy output is far less then our sun and yes they tend to be smaller in size (less build time). the thing is you would need to build it alot closer to it which increase the danger level of a solar flare thats way stronger then that of our sun. but considering how far they have already built the damn thing (sounded like a dyson-swarm...hell if i know) a solar-flare wouldnt be much of a concern anyways 🙂(btw. i dont think the lifespan of the sun matter like at all considering how long they live + no star is older then 12.7BY give or take 500Mil years and our sun still have like 10BY left, time is not a factor here) 🖖🙂
@@Seagate2k The problem with using Proxima if upu are going for long term viability is that you would have to do some thing about Alpha Centauri A & B.
@@martinrwolfe good point xD. i was using only the red dwarf as an example considering its the closest one...now about the long term effekt with the 2 other stars or what to do with them is a really difficult problem to solve man. but at least i have something to think about. if i one day manage to find a solution to that problem ill let you know :) (dont wait up, it might never happen).
That's why sun his important part of Hinduism we pray and do water rituals everyday for suraj Dada we have big big temples for sun one day shree hanuman ji swollen entire sun because baby hanuman was hungry that's solved after devta intervention ya we can make new sun out of our old sun core of our sun die Sun is important and our sun has been saving us our earth by outside Gama radioactivit dead supernova rays Get that vitamin D baby
Ya know i just though about this is there a story out there where xenos find them selfs in the scp universe and uh just stay the hell away from humanity because for some odd reason every "god" that has appeared headed straight for them and everyone questions what the hell is going on so they go check it out and then are just like what the actual hell is going on here no wonder "gods" travel here what the fu k is this place we should help with what we can
Other species: "Stars are dangerous! Flee for your lives!"
Humanity to their sun: "Now who's a bright celestial body? You are!"
Humanity treats sol like a big puppy
We should name the sun Floof lol
@@nocontext9635 I'm pretty sure her name is already Celestia and no not the horse from My Little Pony😭
@@keona5560 Nahhhh Floof is a good name
@@keona5560 The suns official name is Sol. Hence Solar system
Pack bonded with our sun. Yeah, it's actually logical.
I mean, humans
Humans be humans I guess
We can pack bond with anything!
I'm emotionally attached to specific seats in the three different shuttles that we have at work?
When our star explodes we’ll harvest even that as energy and matter
Aliens: let's save the primitives :D
Humanity: *We Crave Stars!*
The Aliens: O_O
The Human gamers: 0_0 "yo aliens take us with you into the dark!!"
Alians: We teach our children to fear suns.
Humans: We teach them to draw smily faces on them. 🌞
It reminds me of Orvil episode were children were singing that tomorrow the sun will shine to aliens that are vampire level sensitive to the sun so while for us it was a cute play for them it was a horror story
Don't go insulting Sol, we like our inevitable killer too much to allow that.
Such is the nature of all things.
Our sun gave us the light and energy to become what we are, and to then to see other stars in person. We owe everything to it, and it’s been burning longer than our planet existed, and will burn for so many more years it’s practically impossible to actually imagine the time period when it will die.
When that time comes, though, if we are still here, and still human in any way we would recognize now, I think humanity will either keep our sun alive by basically using the mass of other stars to perpetuate the fusion reaction at the core or we will let the sun have its rest. We will either return it to its prime or we will throw it a funeral, one fit for the source of life and light that’s let us carry our own into the eternal darkness of the deep cosmos
I wouldn't mind a full series based on the mysterious "Star Tamers".
Humanes: "That's nothing, you should see the stellar lifting stations"
Aliens: "The what?!"
The what?
@@izayaorihara7059 stellar lifting. you know how solar flares throw out gigantic masses of hot gases? stellar lifting is the process of placing structures around a star to magnetically funnel and somewhat control these ejections, capture them and harvest them for resources.
@@peterhacke6317 thanks
At least these xenos seem friendly.
They won't have to experience the receiving end of weaponised Dyson Spheres.
You mean dyson Lasers
@@Jesus_Offical don’t you mean quasi-stellar-anihilator
(Stellaris reference)
@@notme3603 The Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator!
Ha ha
100000000000000000000000000 watt laser go Brrrr
@@admiraloscar3320 you are missing a few zeroes. stars are insane
Now I want a HFY story where we armor plated the dyson sphere. Aliens come to glass a planet, only to find a "space station" 1.0 AU in radius with a death laser the strength of the total output of the sun for 1 second.... every second.
I can kind of imagine us doing something like that, but also figuring out a way to move the Dyson Sphere, using that to reverse orbit the galaxy, creating more of these Dyson spheres as we do. Then one day someone starts a war with humanity, only to find their home system ripped apart by the gravitational pull of a thousand Dyson spheres surrounding it.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 You can always write it up on r/HFY
@@imjang2430 nah, I'm utterly crap at writing.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 I'm not good either, you just need to try. One of mine was narrated here
@@imjang2430 when I say I'm not good at writing, I mean every time I sit down to try and write anything creative, within ten minutes, I want to put a loaded shotgun in my mouth and pull the trigger.
Due to the absolutely crap school system here in England, I have been conditioned to the point where me attempting creative writing is a more effective torture method than putting Justin Bieber on a perpetual loop, whilst getting stung repeatedly by a gympy gympy tree, all while bamboo is placed to grow in such a way that it would not only slowly tear out my fingernails, but simultaneously skewer my testicles and split my urethra in half... Whilst being on fire.
I'm surprised that they didn't mention any star lifting to mine the sun for resources or extending the life of the star. According to a old Isaac Author episode. We could extend our sun's life fifty to one hundred percent by managing it's red phase. Maybe even turn it into a white dwarf later on.
Hell, if we siphon the heavy metals from our star and feed it the right material we can extend its life for essentially to the point the Great Dark begins.
Not easy mind you, but something humanity might do for sentimental reasons.
@@Elmithian ; True but that would be costly for the expenditure of time and resources. The humans in the story gave me the impression that they would have maybe turned thier Dyson Sphere into an arc of some sorts like the moon fall movie that came out recently.
@@davidvincent5701 True true. Plus, I mean, if it is fully encapsulated Sun, they could literally use it as an engine to push in a certain direction. Not fast mind you, but plenty enough to reach another star in hundred thousand years or so.
And seriously, Arthur is such a good source for semi hard-science fiction material.
@@davidvincent5701 with the right method the stat itself could be the propulsion system for such an arc.
Slow in astronomical terms but I h so very efficient in terms of capacity, energy availability and relative defence.
After all who is going to mess with someone using a dyson star as their carriage, a fraction of a percent of the energy outside it would turn all their mobile assets to slag not to mention the potential for atmospheric damage.
I assume you need to do something like that to keep the Dyson Sphere safe.
Figures. We tame and pack bond with anything. Our favorites are mildly dangerous predators and inanimate objects. A star actually does fall under both of those categories. And, according to The Bible, Earth is our inheritance, so, when we reach that level, it is our Sacred duty to tame Sol. Personally, I think we should build the Dyson sphere/swarm* in the area where the asteroid belt is. Leave Earth intact and pull the material from the belts and the Oort Cloud.
* Dyson's initial concept for the Dyson Sphere was a fleet of millions to billions of satellites and habitats, not a solid sphere. However I think it's very likely to start as the original concept and become the solid version later. 🤔
Oort Cloud is the thing that keeps you safe from an alien invader's fleets.
When colliding at relativistic speed with a relatively small iron-nickel asteroid (from a couple of tens of kilograms to a couple of hundred tons), 5-8 orders of magnitude more energy is released than when average thermonuclear bomb explodes. It is an ultimate speed bump.
The Ultimate base is a dyson sphere like this but built where the ort cloud is, but somehow still entirely habitable, and maybe if your insane enough at least a few planets think, so be prepared to eat half a galaxy if not more for it
Check out Dyson sphere project on steam.
@@123domo8 Nah, we have enough material in this system alone for a proper Dyson Sphere of either type, so long as it's no more than a few kilometers thick. Depending on which planets and planetoids we decide to keep I doubt we'll need more than a few planets in the local cluster, even for an Oort Cloud level Sphere. There are no known materials that can handle a solid Dyson Sphere more than a half dozen or so kilometers in thickness. At 5Km thick, the volume of an Earth sized planet would cover an area of approximately 200 MILLION kilometers square. So about a million times earth's volume should do it; and there's several times that in the Oort Cloud, so we could pull off a Sphere roughly Earth's orbit without dismantling hardly anything in the main Solar System.
@@taitano12 a km thick, not even close. Maybe a few nanometers thick if your lucky and about 1mm from the surface of the sun (so its gonna get a bit warm). The Oort clouds exact mass is unknown, but current theories put its total mass at about 1.9x that of the Earth. Yes its massive but it's also basically empty, with an average of few atoms per cubic meter (compared to 0.3 for empty space, and 3x10²³ on Earth).
Consider creating a shell around the Earth 1km thick a mere 200km from the surface would take a larger mass of material than Mars and most of its moons combined.
Those orbital ring platforms scifi loves would actually use more material than most solar systems have floating around without having to strip mine planet, and that's before you get into the physics involved in creating a rigid structure around a planetary body. The materials to build it simply don't exist, no known material has the properties to survive the forces involved. A solid sphere would be even harder to make, as the forces involved are exponentially higher and more unpredictable, hence why a swarm is a much better concept.
Problem is by the time you have the materials physics and means to gather enough materials (harvesting a few hundred solar systems) your already at a point were this is a passion project as you don't need the energy, it would take more energy to build and maintain the swarm than it will ever provide.
this is a great story. entirely new 'alien' perspective on life/space. i hope the writer continues exploring it
Wonder how the star fearing races will feel when they learn we also know how to create new stars?
Humanity is so good at pack bonding we bonded with our star
Noice
For the algorithm
Feels like the “But everyone calls their planet dirt” where aliens offer to blow up Earth to a newly space fairing humanity.
Two different stories. But everyone calls it dirt is a story where a zenos invade a planet named Ferrari. There is one where the zenos offer to blow up earth. Because every world that can produce life is terrible and worth destroying, but I can't remember the name of it.
@@shawnlylebond8873
Do you wish for us to destroy your world?
@@shawnlylebond8873 IIRC, the one about the destroying planets was something along the lines of "when a race develops sapience, so does their planet, this usually results in a death struggle, whilst humanity eventually became symbiotic with their sapient planets."
As for the naming their planet dirt one, the only one I can remember with a name like that was basically saying," welcome to the galactic community latest earth, seems that by some coincidence of sapience, every sapient species names their home planet their languages equivalent of earth/dirt, with the exceptions being those who had natural flight calling it sky and those who where aquatic calling it water or ocean. Basically, we all called our home planets after the aspect of it which nurtured us into what we are today. "
The one where 3 Deathworlds start the Terran Alliance because all their planets are called dirt?
Ok I was wrong, they are different story’s.
“But everyone calls they’re planet dirt” is an alien military takeover discovering that the human “home planet” has portal tech, and thus doesn’t need FTL. They discover this after leaning that “Ferrari” (the planet name) doesn’t mean dirt.
Magnificent, they can at least relax knowing we will at least try to be polite to any alien races we encounter and will offer the best hospitality we can.
I mean. When you have the power of a literal star at your disposal
This is a really interesting concept for a sci fi universe.
I've personally always found dyson swarms to be more realistic than dyson spheres. Less materials, more reparable, and you can still shine it on earth.
This reminds me of that RUclips video in which they showed how you could turn our sun into a giant engine that could move our whole solar system
Greetings, Mentlegent!
For the Rhythm that is Algo
Okay, I give the writer credit for coming up with a genuinely alien viewpoint, which is almost impossible to do. But really, so afraid of the cradle of life? Stars are dangerous, sure. But to want to stop them from existing? To prevent any new life from forming? This may yet end in violence between those of us who know we need stars, and those who don't.
We are... diametrically opposed philosophically. Will we become friends or will it be EXTERMINATUS???
As long as they dont try to hurt our big glowy ball in the sky, friends.
If they try to hurt the big glowy ball...
*lets be xenophobic, its really in this year*
I see no reason to not be friends. Nothing that we are doing could be construed to be a danger to the others. Just depends on how they react to us. That is where the fear comes into play.
Gotta love Dyson Spheres.
Wait till they hear about star lifting.
"Oh yeah we stabilized it by removing heavier elements and doing a few other nifty tricks."
Of COURSE we tamed it, we tame everything.
Human Pack-bonding is wild. Of course we bonded with our beloved Sol.
I am emotionally attached to a broken wooden spoon I took with me when I moved out of my parents house ten years ago. It makes everything I cook taste better.
first impressions last, star tamers , its not a bad start
With this, I can appreciate merry weather depiction of sun as being a celestial waifu. We literally grew so attached to her that we armed and protected it, who tf armed and protect a star? Well that was a rhetorical question, ofc it would be us!
That was a very good one.
Great story. Only problem is, given how skilled humans are at first contact (more so than the yama, apparently) humanity should not have been surprised that the yama would view stars as insanely dangerous.
I think we just prepared for it enough, also humanity may have found other young or non sentient species previously and gotten used to alien life enough to make contact in this way
Team Dyson Swarm: surround star with millions of individual habitats. Realistic sizes, realistic materials
Dyson Sphere is just too much no. Magical materials needed. Also, all eggs in one basket.
But DOOM LASER
@@WE_DONT_LIE we can still has doom laser with swarm ❤️
@@WE_DONT_LIEyou’d dare insult the great DOOM laser by only having one, in a big ass Death Star? The one that got taken out by a single ship? If that’s how you roll go ahead but me? I’m team SWARM of DOOM lasers.
Seriously though it would actually be a lot easier to make a massive fuck off laser with a Dyson swarm rather than sphere, bc we have to design the infrastructure for it, so having it embedded into a hard shell that it broken completely compromises many key systems and could lead to the entire thing collapsing is gonna be a lot more of a risk and much harder to do efficiently than it would be to create the energy relay systems to run 1 big laser separately and funnel it into the DOOM laser that way or just make a bunch of smaller ones.
Ooo, scary sci fi weapon idea- the kugelblitz cannon.
you take meta materials that will alter the way it interacts with light to make a material that can make things like a perfect mirror or it’s opposite(Isaac Arthur’s meta materials video is where I got the concept if you want the info I know I can’t provide bc I’m not that knowledgeable on the specifics.) and use it to create a relay system for photons that can be fed into anything from power storage(for internal weapons systems) to energy converters(to put energy into things with mass) and what I call casual assembly system, which is Process the weapon goes through to fire.
Essentially, you’re using light as part the material and energy for a semi ballistic black hole round fired FTL out of a massive fuck off cannon via the pressure of even more light:
The round is made by having meta lenses funnel light through a series of energy converters and mirrors to essentially form a kugelblitz black hole in the center of a specialized tungsten round that is stored in the center of a rod made from meta and Mundane materials that are designed to contain the black hole and keep it from falling out of the rod, as well as have the outer layer absorb 100% of light energy that hits it and convert it to Kinetic energy, with 2 lense thrusters powered by that stored energy. The round would also contain a warp device triggered by high energy output so it can travel FTL.
It’s fired by having lenses, energy converters snd mirrors collect and store light energy into a directed pulse of the unconverted light energy and converted kinetic energy that blasts the rod at an instant 99% of light speed, activating the warp device and as it exits warp, directs half of the remaining stored energy from the pulse into the thrusters AS it’s transitioning out of FTL to give it a wicked speed boost. The impact isn’t just carrying the total energy of the causal round, it also goes boom:
Personally I think the design is very human- a gun that shoots both a relativistic kill missile AND a kugelblitz black hole simultaneously at FTL speeds that then boosts faster than FTL as its entering spacetime(basically telling the laws of physics to go fuck themselves and sending mass FTL without using infinite energy)
The last stage before impact has the various systems work to convert then direct all the energy available left into a pulse directly into the black hole. This essentially destroys the containment field right before impact so the shot delivers all the Kinect force of the singularity weighted round but near instantly after causes the black hole to swell in size to the point it now has an event horizon big enough to actually start consuming matter. This makes the BH both latch onto the target and guaranteed the consumption of anything left but also releases a massive amount of energy(when a BH eats something it does release energy, usually just a tiny amount tho), to the point where a big enough feast can let off supernova tier explosions, and this feast is more than enough.
This is the type of gun that takes out a solar system in a single shot. Imagine getting hit by a reality defying RKM, a supernova tier explosion and the impact of a black holes equivalent mass energy
Nice story, and with a touch of humor. Fear of all suns is an unusual angle, and by a space faring race. Definitely odd, and interesting. I've come across Dyson spheres before in both fiction and non fiction, so the concept isn't new to me but I've always been fascinated by the concept. Having the Dyson Sphere humans encounter star faring aliens who are afraid of suns is novel. Another poster pointed out that rather than having an excessive fear of the sun humans are likely to put a smiley face on it.😄 This is true. Many of us are aware of the very real dangers that the sun poses, but we are also aware of the benefits it provides. We can't even live without it. I worry about massive solar flares, but I can't do anything about them, so I'd rather think of smiley faces on the sun, 😄
dyson sphere!! :D love this one
Those crazy humans
Dam fine story one of the best I've heard in a long time and would love to hear more
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Wonderful story, great name: Star Tamer's, suck a classic SF name.and as always the narration was spot on.
PRAISE THE SUN!
If you think about it starts are just naturally occurring fusion balls. And a Dyson sphere is the idea of building a star size fusion reaction energy device around it. Dyson was like, fuck small. How mundane. Work to start it? Bah! Just build the device around the already started ball of energy. It's work, but it's straight forward damnit!
Blind guess 6 minutes in: dyson swarm
sadly, dyson sphere, you was close though!
Thank you for the video.
humanity is so confused in all of these storys like "why are you afraid of this thing? its not anything new! theres been BIILLIONS of stars before ours and there will be billions more by the time we are all dust- this cant be new no way- also in a parrel world coal was unobtainium? in games unobtainium is usually the dense'ed yet strongest alloy metal thing we have yet for u its a type of coal- wut?"
contrast is insane xD
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Random guess (idea stolen)
Partially constructed Dyson Sphere.
That's a good story, I like that story
I don't like the idea of sacrificing The Earth, but I love that we built a Dyson Sphere
ahahahaha...now then imagine when their find out we as humanity can tame basically anything......and if any race have bad intention on our sun..... yea i think human gladly introduce Exterminatus to them...🤣🤣🤣 anyway thanks as always
Praise the SUN!!!
Great story.
Good job!
I've heard about that theoretical spere
Good story
hahaha, in the end, the truth of the matter is... we likely don't need to deconstruct all the planets to build a dyson sphere. there's enough resources without touching the inner planets
that was very good
Yes, stars can do a great many things that can damage or destroy life. But they are also responsible for it. But it is possible to learn the warning signs of it's "misbehaviors" and cope with or prevent them (eventually). Once you can do that, why give up the warmth and power a star can provide?
Weird that a human would think the sun is out to kill us. Must have a strange mind to come up with that idea.. and human Yes after all the author is human
It's not as strange to think a human would come up with this idea with how often we anthromorphize celestial bodies, and then add in ideas where Earth is a psychotic bitch that has done everything she could to destroy us, or even SCP-001 When Daybreaks.
The Sun is out to kill us. It's not good at it but it shoots solar storms our way.
Look up Black sun theory( not the Nazi crap.) Theory goes every 12k years the sun micro nova. Something seem to happen to the earth every 12k years. Atlantis was 12k years ago.
Makes me wonder how they'd react if they ran into a Ring Ship...
"These humans ENSLAVED that star!"
Comment for the comment god. Love this voice
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Type 4 Dyson Sphere 😳
This would be so ideal for humans. We finally go fully intergalactic and find loads of star systems abandoned as soon as the original races were uplifted?
Sounds perfect though, doesn't it? If no one else wants to claim star systems, there won't be conflict for them
The species in this is the owners of the pyramid ships from the destiny universe
Now if only this was our reality
How about building a dyson-sphere around a red dwarf with 100 billion years lifespan instead of our sun? Less building needed aswell...
Proxima Centauri, is closest to us and is a red dwarf "RD" star (so are 50 of the nearest stars) but the energy output is far less then our sun and yes they tend to be smaller in size (less build time). the thing is you would need to build it alot closer to it which increase the danger level of a solar flare thats way stronger then that of our sun. but considering how far they have already built the damn thing (sounded like a dyson-swarm...hell if i know) a solar-flare wouldnt be much of a concern anyways 🙂(btw. i dont think the lifespan of the sun matter like at all considering how long they live + no star is older then 12.7BY give or take 500Mil years and our sun still have like 10BY left, time is not a factor here) 🖖🙂
@@Seagate2k The problem with using Proxima if upu are going for long term viability is that you would have to do some thing about Alpha Centauri A & B.
@@martinrwolfe good point xD. i was using only the red dwarf as an example considering its the closest one...now about the long term effekt with the 2 other stars or what to do with them is a really difficult problem to solve man. but at least i have something to think about. if i one day manage to find a solution to that problem ill let you know :) (dont wait up, it might never happen).
This reminds me of a MadTV episode. Lol
This could have been far better when you consider star lifting
As a science nerd I figured a Dyson sphere. 😂
aww shit we done did messed up again.
If not friend why friend shaped? 🤷♀️
This is how the C'tan started in 40k!
Dm good one
neat
That's why sun his important part of Hinduism we pray and do water rituals everyday for suraj Dada we have big big temples for sun one day shree hanuman ji swollen entire sun because baby hanuman was hungry that's solved after devta intervention ya we can make new sun out of our old sun core of our sun die
Sun is important and our sun has been saving us our earth by outside Gama radioactivit dead supernova rays
Get that vitamin D baby
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corrected , thanks for pointing it out
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Ya know i just though about this is there a story out there where xenos find them selfs in the scp universe and uh just stay the hell away from humanity because for some odd reason every "god" that has appeared headed straight for them and everyone questions what the hell is going on so they go check it out and then are just like what the actual hell is going on here no wonder "gods" travel here what the fu k is this place we should help with what we can
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If a star is Dyson Sphered they are probably doing stuff to manipulate it to keep it stable.
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