Great video mate the best I've seen about the new segways . If I was from segway I would be sending you some of the new scooters for you to do more in depth reviews. Thanks again Tom.
I am astonished at what an upgrade the G3 is over the G2. I guess it has been pressure from all the other manufacturers - but Segway has really scored a big one here.
Yah I’m pretty shocked as well to be honest. It took like 4 years or something crazy to go from the Ninebot G30 to the Max G2 and 18 months to basically get us to the G3. Competition has definitely ramped up. Apollo came out with the GO which has very good top speed and acceleration performance. Then NIU launched their 300X. Then there’s the VMAX and GoTrax offerings plus the crazy powerful scooters from smaller brands that are often priced under $1200. I’m especially impressed with the new GT3. I honestly think it’s a steal of a deal at $1,499. Sure there are plenty of scooters that go much faster, can climb hills better, and likely get more range for less $, but the ride feel on the GT3 is next level. Its weight makes it feel very well grounded and everything about it is smooth. Feels like Segway really listened to customers with many of the changes on the G3, especially the rear hydraulic suspension, ergonomic controls, and info rich display.
@@tomsgadgetgarage The issue with the Apollo Go, at least in Australia where it was recently released (and where I am) is that it is almost twice the price of the G2. Is the Apollo Go better than the G2? Clearly yes, but is it twice as good? Clearly not. Now the G3 beats the Apollo Go in every (and I do mean every) spec, and it will be cheaper than the Go. That is incredible and really aggressive by Segway. Of course the real winner will be us - the end user!
Yah the new Segway lineup really ups the competitive landscape. Can’t even imagine where things will be ten years from now. Hopefully we have better battery tech by then. Smaller, lighter, and more powerful.
GT3 Pro - "twist" throttle is just сrар! . I drove 500km on my GT2 and then replaced this shiт. Also it's dangerous, when I wanted to grab grip to move my GT2 a little bit, a throttle kicked and scooter jumped out of me.. this happened several times.. omg, I hope I could replace to thumb throttle much easier... in this GT3 Pro
@@tomsgadgetgarage in my other case - I almost hit a child, I rode and the decided to walk with it, and wanted to push it back left holding grips for sure. I really hope everyone start talking about this in their RUclips reviews..
After owning the G2, I considered upgrading to the G3, but I don’t like how oversized it is (wheels are 11” instead of 10”, it’s at least 4 cm longer, and overall, it looks like a tank). If you’re going for something that large, it should offer more to justify its size-something closer to the GT3 category. In that category, you’d expect features like a more advanced suspension, a larger battery, significantly better brakes, and an overall superior ride experience. The G3 doesn’t deliver on these expectations. Instead, it’s just a bulky city scooter with a limited range (yes, I know some will suggest adding an external battery, but that’s just marketing). Given its size, Segway could’ve easily fit the same internal battery as the GT3 (900Wh) using 21700 cells. But they didn’t. Instead, they push you to buy an external battery that ends up permanently attached because the built-in battery alone is too small, just like on the G2. The GT3 Pro is clearly a no-brainer for a high-end scooter, but what I really need is a second scooter for the city-something lighter and simpler for short trips. That’s why I’ve realized the F3 Pro is the better choice. It’s lighter, has better suspension and features, and is overall a more practical upgrade from the G2.
Tom, I ended up buying a ZT 3 pro influenced by your amazing reviews. I also happen to live in the valley. I'd love to go ride with you sometime man! I'm a novice rider and an older dude, so I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. Hope you're doing well amigo! Great videos as always
Nice! I knew you would love the feel of a 72V scooter. That GT3 Pro is definitely a beast of a scooter. I have the GT1 from segway and always liked how plush the suspension feels and the build quality. 😎👊
Yah man, 72v was fun haha. I’m really annoyed because somehow I didn’t capture the core part of my fun with the GT3 Pro where I took it into race mode and giggled like a child at the sheer torque and acceleration I was able to get out of that thing. Freight trains kept rolling by so I stopped recording multiple times and must have forgotten to press record again 🤦♂️.
@tomsgadgetgarage ah man that sucks! I am glad you got to experience it though. Once someone gets on a 72V scooter, you feel like you can go anywhere on it because of the power they have. Thats why for me 60V scooters are now the Minimum for me when it comes to buying one lol
Do you know when the GT3 is getting shipped out I kind of want to get one? Also for the throttle it looks like it’s only twist but do you think you can add thumb throttle?
I heard towards the end of January for the GT3. It’s also the only one of the new scooters I can add to cart on their site. It’s the smoothest riding scooter I’ve ever tested. Feels luxurious haha.
@@tomsgadgetgarage Oh ok thanks yeah I ride my zt3 pro everyday and I have to sell it and I’m going to be so sad if it’s gone for like a month.☹️ I got confused on the website if it was pre order or not but I saw it said in stock. Yeah the GT3 seems very luxury and I like that the GT3 has hydraulic suspension and is faster and has all the new stuff.
Hi Tom. Do you think the G3 max is a lot better than ZT3 Pro? Is it worth to spend 300 euro more for the G3? Are the 2 version similar or completely different in your opinion? Thank you.
I think these are very different scooters. I actually got the Segway bug and took out the ZT3 Pro for a spin this morning to see how they compare haha. The ZT3 Pro has a kick plate at the rear which is SUPER nice to have. The Max G3 has a little flare at the rear but not enough to call it a kick plate. There were a couple times when I actually stepped on the G3’s rear fender. With 2k watts of peak power, I would have loved to see a functional kick plate. The ZT3 pro has more ground clearance, which can be helpful in certain situations. On paper, the Max G3 has more wattage, but I’m not sure how the torque compares. The ZT3 Pro made it up my extreme hill climb test with ease. It’ll be interesting to see if the G3 can do the same. Now the G3 has the superior suspension and a much cooler display. The ZT3 Pro rides more on the firm side. Batteries are exactly the same but I’m not sure about real world range in the G3 yet. As for size, the ZT3 pro is significantly larger and provides more room for foot placement.
@tomsgadgetgarage Thanks for your detailed reply Tom. You have cleared all my possible doubts. I couldn't expect better, it's really rare nowadays to have such feedback from a famous youtuber like you. You are really the best out there.
I’m happy they had a test event. I didn’t plan on there being one haha. Figured they’d just have a static display. Yah I’d love to put the GT3 and Xafari through the paces. Both were a blast to ride. The Xafari felt different to ride compared to a regular e-bike, but in a very good way. It’s like a cross between a regular ebike and the Xyber bike they have.
When is the max g3 going on sale? As a erupean I hope it's the same as before, we get to import the non capped version. Really hope the top speed of the 🇺🇸 version is around the same as G2, is it? Could only see "top speed 25km/h" on their site. That can't be right...right 🤔
So the US version of the G3 can hit 28mph/45kmh. Unfortunately, I couldn’t test full speed in that small parking lot, but it definitely has a lot of kick. Pretty solid upgrade over the G2’s 22mph/35kmh. It nice to have a little extra speed in the tank just in case, but I spend most of my time cruising around 18-23 mph.
How about testing the 20% incline after a full brake test?! An electronic horn is a must if you drive on the road otherwise cars will not hear you. Well, you can always buy one. Also, the rear light should be bigger because if you drive at night that small one could be very hard to see.
Yah the ramps aren’t a great way to test hill climb ability because they are so short. I plan to thoroughly test a G3 out on my endurance hill climb (~1,900 ft elevation gain going 9.5 miles up a mountain) and my 23% hill climb test. It would be nice to have a horn like the GT3 as the bell isn’t ideal for getting the attention of people driving cars.
Hello Tom. Thank you for sharing the new segways. I can't wait to get my hands on new G3. Top speed is 28 MPH. Let's see if it comes in under the 1000USD price tag. 😎
@tomsgadgetgarage hey Tom for sure. I just hope they dropped the max G3 before Summer's over. If it drops in fall or winter it's going to be a big bummer. Especially for me because I live on the east coast
As much as I want to have that gt3 or gt3 pro, it's still a no for me. Too heavy, if only I had a garage to store it instead of taking it to 3rd floor like I do with my max g2. But im definitely getting that max g3, 28mph, and full hydraulic suspension is just perfect and double break. Also, like that design a lot. Battery is still the same, but with shorter charging time, im okay with it. Since they kept the weight same as max g2.
Yah the GT3 is an awesome machine, but you’re right, it’s very heavy compared to the Max G3. The Max G3 in my opinion is the perfect successor to the Max G2. You can tell they listened closely to feedback on the G2. Another bonus is that it’s now 48v instead of 36v 😊.
With the likely eventual UK law on scooters matching other European countries where it’s a 500 watt nominal limit (meaning the F and G series are good for all currently), the G3 just isn’t going to be technically legal and so it’s going to be a drop to the F series for most so glad Fe now has full suspension etc but going to have smaller range. I also think many prefer the drum brake from a maintenance perspective especially dual drum set ups so I think in the US that Segway will sell a bucket load of G3’s but in Europe not so much and the F series will have so much competition from the likes of Niu and Vmax. Very nice looking scooters from Segway as usual and good improvements particularly in the cock pit layout and screen. And first video I’ve seen properly going through them all so thanks Tom! We all want that go-kart too though let’s face it 😀
@ yeh it’s the nominal power restrictions that there could potentially be which is the issue, showing a complete lack of understanding of them cos as vmax shown a 500 watt motor can peak at more than double that or just only be a bit higher so definitely agree top speed should be the only factor
@@leeheirbaut8154 depends what country as the rules are wildly different. Most seem to go for 25kph max speed (so why buy a gt1 over the G3 for example meaning Segway customers buy cheaper models), Slovenia, Czech rep have a 250 watt cap it looks like which is nuts, Austria and Croatia have a 600 watt max power limit, even Finland have a 1000 watt limit. Sadly the UK will be on the stricter end when after 4 years of trials they get their act together. My point was merely Segway are doing the go up the power trend which limits the amount they can sell their more premium scooters in many parts of Europe so people that want a G3 might now opt for the F3 but due to range might go for a different company. Pure electric from uk have a 500 watt limit on theirs specifically based on the expectation that that’s what the law will eventually be for nominal power.
Thanks man! Yah the GT3 Pro was a blast. I’m bummed because I must not have pressed record on my testing of it in Race mode. Footage wasn’t on my camera when I got home :(. The torque and acceleration were insane, yet beautifully controlled. I’ve been missing out haha.
@tomsgadgetgarage I've never actually tried race mode on the GT2. Sport mode is insane enough for me. I weigh 140 pounds, so it's quick enough for me in sport mode. The GT units are addictive to ride.
Such a hard decision. Bigger battery and better specs/hardware all around on the single motor GT3 over the G3, but a whole lot of extra weight that comes with it. I think I might have to pull the trigger for $1500 this time. 😅 Awesome review given your limited testing environment.
Thank you! Yah it’s tough haha. I also thoroughly enjoyed the F3 Pro because it was so light and nimble. Made it hard to choose a single standout option. The GT3 rides like a luxury liner. Everything about it is smooth. It’s hard to describe but it felt like no other scooter I’ve ever ridden. If size and weight aren’t a major issue, the GT3 is the way to go. We’ll have to see what the pricing looks like in the G3, but if they can price it similar to the G2, they’ll probably struggle to keep it in stock haha.
So there’s a rubber trim piece on the handlebar that the Segway team says will be removable to expose the handlebar for accessories. Similar to the ZT3 Pro. I didn’t see that in action to confirm, but they said it will be a thing. Hopefully it is.
I gotta say I like the specs of the G3 but I’m not a fan of the design. It’s too bulky and it lost its minimalistic look to it. Especially for those that commute through train or buses. However after seeing the F3/F3 Pro, I feel that will be more for people that commute through trains or buses. Solid reviews though.
Yeah, they definitely added some bulk upfront. I was really impressed with the F3 Pro. I had more fun on it than the G3 because it's 10 pounds lighter and feels much more nimble. I'd be interested to see how the overall performance profile of the F3 Pro compares to that of the Max G2. It has more nominal and peak power. I just wish they posted torque specs because that would lift some of the mystery.
Those little ramps are not a real test. Momentum will carry you up and over it. To really test it, you need to go on a real hill where a sustained load can be put on it. Here in Calif (LA area) too many people ride these on the sidewalk at very high speed. I got hit by some guy on a Lime scooter. He jumped up and said "My Bad" and rode off. By the way, I am an amputee in an electric wheel chair and I was thrown out of my chair. Had to use my own medical insurance to get stitches. Unfortunately not many users have insurance.
Oh man that sucks. Hopefully you recovered quickly from that. The town where I live actually made it illegal to use scooters in the bike lane. They are only permitted on streets with speeds of 25mph or less and sidewalks. Thankfully a scooter loving city is just across the street. Scooters on sidewalks doesn’t make sense to me. A lady out here was sent to the ICU because a kid plowed into her at 20mph and fled the scene. As for those ramps, definitely not a good test of hill climb performance. I actually test most scooters on an endurance hill climb (~1,900 ft elevation gain over 9.5miles of uphill riding) and a very steep 23% grade on the Phoenix Metro’s steepest publicly accessible paved road.
It may very well be able to get more depending on your weight and riding conditions. When I got my G2 new, I got 32 miles. Then there were a bunch of firmware updates and I gained weight lol. Now I get 22 miles on the G2 and 23 on the ZT3 Pro. It looks like the new G3 uses the same exact battery as the ZT3 Pro. Given that it weighs less than the ZT3 and has street tread, I think I’d be able to squeeze out 26/27 miles of range. We’ll see when they release it in the spring.
Yah 25 KMH is really unfortunate. I went to Europe last summer and checked out some cool looking scooters, but they too had the crazy limits on speed :(
@@Bryan-yq9pz good luck w8 for software unlocks on these. gonna take years if ppl even gonna bother because new display/firmware could be even more harder to hack than previous scooters.
That’s the peculiar thing about this journey we call life. There’s danger at every corner, yet we still step out that front door into the world to experience what it has to offer. The best we can do is measure the risks and rewards and see if the juice is worth the squeeze. And if it is, take the necessary precautions to mitigate risk.
Great video mate the best I've seen about the new segways . If I was from segway I would be sending you some of the new scooters for you to do more in depth reviews. Thanks again Tom.
I am astonished at what an upgrade the G3 is over the G2. I guess it has been pressure from all the other manufacturers - but Segway has really scored a big one here.
Yah I’m pretty shocked as well to be honest. It took like 4 years or something crazy to go from the Ninebot G30 to the Max G2 and 18 months to basically get us to the G3.
Competition has definitely ramped up. Apollo came out with the GO which has very good top speed and acceleration performance. Then NIU launched their 300X. Then there’s the VMAX and GoTrax offerings plus the crazy powerful scooters from smaller brands that are often priced under $1200.
I’m especially impressed with the new GT3. I honestly think it’s a steal of a deal at $1,499. Sure there are plenty of scooters that go much faster, can climb hills better, and likely get more range for less $, but the ride feel on the GT3 is next level. Its weight makes it feel very well grounded and everything about it is smooth.
Feels like Segway really listened to customers with many of the changes on the G3, especially the rear hydraulic suspension, ergonomic controls, and info rich display.
@@tomsgadgetgarage The issue with the Apollo Go, at least in Australia where it was recently released (and where I am) is that it is almost twice the price of the G2. Is the Apollo Go better than the G2? Clearly yes, but is it twice as good? Clearly not. Now the G3 beats the Apollo Go in every (and I do mean every) spec, and it will be cheaper than the Go. That is incredible and really aggressive by Segway. Of course the real winner will be us - the end user!
I ride the gt2 as my daily driver.. I am Definitely getting the max g3 as a back up .. cuz as we all know maintenance is a pain in the 😬
Yah the new Segway lineup really ups the competitive landscape. Can’t even imagine where things will be ten years from now. Hopefully we have better battery tech by then. Smaller, lighter, and more powerful.
Just started to watch so excited
Awesome! I tried my best to squeeze it all in there haha. I do wish I wore sunscreen that day 🤣.
Nice simple multi product reviews, Thanks man. Appreciate this.
Thank you! Yah I figured I’d get them all in one video haha.
GT3 Pro - "twist" throttle is just сrар! . I drove 500km on my GT2 and then replaced this shiт. Also it's dangerous, when I wanted to grab grip to move my GT2 a little bit, a throttle kicked and scooter jumped out of me.. this happened several times.. omg, I hope I could replace to thumb throttle much easier... in this GT3 Pro
fully agree!
@@W_1_3_7 Then get the Apollo Phantom V2 instead!
VMAX VX6 would be awesome too!
All thumb throttles and ergonomic!
Thumb throttle is most definitely better, but is total garbage compared to a index finger throttle. Give it a shot
Haha. I tried a scooter in the past with a full-twist right grip. When I went to grab it when it was on, it darn near hit the ceiling 🤣.
@@tomsgadgetgarage in my other case - I almost hit a child, I rode and the decided to walk with it, and wanted to push it back left holding grips for sure. I really hope everyone start talking about this in their RUclips reviews..
After owning the G2, I considered upgrading to the G3, but I don’t like how oversized it is (wheels are 11” instead of 10”, it’s at least 4 cm longer, and overall, it looks like a tank). If you’re going for something that large, it should offer more to justify its size-something closer to the GT3 category. In that category, you’d expect features like a more advanced suspension, a larger battery, significantly better brakes, and an overall superior ride experience.
The G3 doesn’t deliver on these expectations. Instead, it’s just a bulky city scooter with a limited range (yes, I know some will suggest adding an external battery, but that’s just marketing). Given its size, Segway could’ve easily fit the same internal battery as the GT3 (900Wh) using 21700 cells. But they didn’t. Instead, they push you to buy an external battery that ends up permanently attached because the built-in battery alone is too small, just like on the G2.
The GT3 Pro is clearly a no-brainer for a high-end scooter, but what I really need is a second scooter for the city-something lighter and simpler for short trips. That’s why I’ve realized the F3 Pro is the better choice. It’s lighter, has better suspension and features, and is overall a more practical upgrade from the G2.
You would then get the F3 instead.
The F3 Pro was very fun to ride. Super lightweight and easy to throw around. I actually had a lot of fun on that scooter.
Is this Dual motor or a single motor in the rear? Also what is the release date and pricing on the max g3?
Max G3 is single motor in the rear. I tried to get pricing info but the G3 is still being priced :(. Should be available in the Spring.
@ Thanks, If this is under 1100 then it’s a steal for the new tech it offers, can’t wait for the release.
You know anything about the top speed? @tomsgadgetgarage
Perfect review for the GT3 thank you bro
Anytime! Pretty sick scooter 😎
is there an off road mode to unlock the speed limiter on the xafari?
So the Segway team did mention there’s an ability to unlock it to Class 3 with a top speed of 28 mph, but by default it’s set to Class 2.
@ thanks!
Tom, I ended up buying a ZT 3 pro influenced by your amazing reviews. I also happen to live in the valley. I'd love to go ride with you sometime man! I'm a novice rider and an older dude, so I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. Hope you're doing well amigo! Great videos as always
Nice! I knew you would love the feel of a 72V scooter. That GT3 Pro is definitely a beast of a scooter. I have the GT1 from segway and always liked how plush the suspension feels and the build quality. 😎👊
Yah man, 72v was fun haha. I’m really annoyed because somehow I didn’t capture the core part of my fun with the GT3 Pro where I took it into race mode and giggled like a child at the sheer torque and acceleration I was able to get out of that thing. Freight trains kept rolling by so I stopped recording multiple times and must have forgotten to press record again 🤦♂️.
@tomsgadgetgarage ah man that sucks! I am glad you got to experience it though. Once someone gets on a 72V scooter, you feel like you can go anywhere on it because of the power they have. Thats why for me 60V scooters are now the Minimum for me when it comes to buying one lol
Can you ride this power scooters without driverlicense in US? GT3 Pro and so on?
It depends on the state as each state has its own rules. Some places require a regular drivers license while others do not. I believe most don’t.
Have you tried new E3? It also got full suspension. Wondering about weight gained after all those improvements
Do you know when the GT3 is getting shipped out I kind of want to get one? Also for the throttle it looks like it’s only twist but do you think you can add thumb throttle?
I heard towards the end of January for the GT3. It’s also the only one of the new scooters I can add to cart on their site.
It’s the smoothest riding scooter I’ve ever tested. Feels luxurious haha.
@@tomsgadgetgarage Oh ok thanks yeah I ride my zt3 pro everyday and I have to sell it and I’m going to be so sad if it’s gone for like a month.☹️ I got confused on the website if it was pre order or not but I saw it said in stock. Yeah the GT3 seems very luxury and I like that the GT3 has hydraulic suspension and is faster and has all the new stuff.
Hi Tom. Do you think the G3 max is a lot better than ZT3 Pro? Is it worth to spend 300 euro more for the G3? Are the 2 version similar or completely different in your opinion? Thank you.
I think these are very different scooters. I actually got the Segway bug and took out the ZT3 Pro for a spin this morning to see how they compare haha. The ZT3 Pro has a kick plate at the rear which is SUPER nice to have. The Max G3 has a little flare at the rear but not enough to call it a kick plate. There were a couple times when I actually stepped on the G3’s rear fender. With 2k watts of peak power, I would have loved to see a functional kick plate.
The ZT3 pro has more ground clearance, which can be helpful in certain situations. On paper, the Max G3 has more wattage, but I’m not sure how the torque compares. The ZT3 Pro made it up my extreme hill climb test with ease. It’ll be interesting to see if the G3 can do the same.
Now the G3 has the superior suspension and a much cooler display. The ZT3 Pro rides more on the firm side. Batteries are exactly the same but I’m not sure about real world range in the G3 yet.
As for size, the ZT3 pro is significantly larger and provides more room for foot placement.
@tomsgadgetgarage Thanks for your detailed reply Tom. You have cleared all my possible doubts. I couldn't expect better, it's really rare nowadays to have such feedback from a famous youtuber like you. You are really the best out there.
That looked so fun!! I would love to see you do a full gt3 review. I also would like to try out a Xafari 🙂
I’m happy they had a test event. I didn’t plan on there being one haha. Figured they’d just have a static display. Yah I’d love to put the GT3 and Xafari through the paces. Both were a blast to ride. The Xafari felt different to ride compared to a regular e-bike, but in a very good way. It’s like a cross between a regular ebike and the Xyber bike they have.
When is the max g3 going on sale? As a erupean I hope it's the same as before, we get to import the non capped version. Really hope the top speed of the 🇺🇸 version is around the same as G2, is it?
Could only see "top speed 25km/h" on their site.
That can't be right...right 🤔
So the US version of the G3 can hit 28mph/45kmh. Unfortunately, I couldn’t test full speed in that small parking lot, but it definitely has a lot of kick. Pretty solid upgrade over the G2’s 22mph/35kmh. It nice to have a little extra speed in the tank just in case, but I spend most of my time cruising around 18-23 mph.
@ 👍 now this is definitly the right upgrade over the G30.
Awewome video man 🙂
How about testing the 20% incline after a full brake test?!
An electronic horn is a must if you drive on the road otherwise cars will not hear you. Well, you can always buy one.
Also, the rear light should be bigger because if you drive at night that small one could be very hard to see.
Yah the ramps aren’t a great way to test hill climb ability because they are so short. I plan to thoroughly test a G3 out on my endurance hill climb (~1,900 ft elevation gain going 9.5 miles up a mountain) and my 23% hill climb test.
It would be nice to have a horn like the GT3 as the bell isn’t ideal for getting the attention of people driving cars.
Th dual battery configuration for the xyber definitely goes 40 mph+
Oh for sure. They just didn't publish anything other than the 35mph. Hopefully, there's a sweet little speed unlock slider in the app somewhere 😎
Hello Tom. Thank you for sharing the new segways. I can't wait to get my hands on new G3. Top speed is 28 MPH. Let's see if it comes in under the 1000USD price tag. 😎
Anytime! I am very interested in seeing the price point. If it's $1,000 or under, it'll be hard to imagine how they'd keep it in stock haha.
@tomsgadgetgarage hey Tom for sure. I just hope they dropped the max G3 before Summer's over. If it drops in fall or winter it's going to be a big bummer. Especially for me because I live on the east coast
I heard it’ll be available in the Spring. I hope that’s true haha.
As much as I want to have that gt3 or gt3 pro, it's still a no for me. Too heavy, if only I had a garage to store it instead of taking it to 3rd floor like I do with my max g2. But im definitely getting that max g3, 28mph, and full hydraulic suspension is just perfect and double break. Also, like that design a lot. Battery is still the same, but with shorter charging time, im okay with it. Since they kept the weight same as max g2.
Yah the GT3 is an awesome machine, but you’re right, it’s very heavy compared to the Max G3. The Max G3 in my opinion is the perfect successor to the Max G2. You can tell they listened closely to feedback on the G2. Another bonus is that it’s now 48v instead of 36v 😊.
@tomsgadgetgarage yes, I feel like max g3 is the result of direct customer feedback. I hope they keep the price around 1k and that would be sweet.
With the likely eventual UK law on scooters matching other European countries where it’s a 500 watt nominal limit (meaning the F and G series are good for all currently), the G3 just isn’t going to be technically legal and so it’s going to be a drop to the F series for most so glad Fe now has full suspension etc but going to have smaller range. I also think many prefer the drum brake from a maintenance perspective especially dual drum set ups so I think in the US that Segway will sell a bucket load of G3’s but in Europe not so much and the F series will have so much competition from the likes of Niu and Vmax. Very nice looking scooters from Segway as usual and good improvements particularly in the cock pit layout and screen. And first video I’ve seen properly going through them all so thanks Tom! We all want that go-kart too though let’s face it 😀
The G3 will have the 2000 Watt Peak in Europe. But Only 25 oder 20 km/h depending on the country.
@ yeh it’s the nominal power restrictions that there could potentially be which is the issue, showing a complete lack of understanding of them cos as vmax shown a 500 watt motor can peak at more than double that or just only be a bit higher so definitely agree top speed should be the only factor
BS. the GT1 with 1400W nominal is legal in Europe
@leeheirbaut8154 Not in Germany ... You can buy it, but dont you cant Drive it in public
@@leeheirbaut8154 depends what country as the rules are wildly different. Most seem to go for 25kph max speed (so why buy a gt1 over the G3 for example meaning Segway customers buy cheaper models), Slovenia, Czech rep have a 250 watt cap it looks like which is nuts, Austria and Croatia have a 600 watt max power limit, even Finland have a 1000 watt limit. Sadly the UK will be on the stricter end when after 4 years of trials they get their act together. My point was merely Segway are doing the go up the power trend which limits the amount they can sell their more premium scooters in many parts of Europe so people that want a G3 might now opt for the F3 but due to range might go for a different company. Pure electric from uk have a 500 watt limit on theirs specifically based on the expectation that that’s what the law will eventually be for nominal power.
Hope you can do a full test on the GT3 Pro. I can see the controls are very similar to my GT2. Great job on the video.
Thanks man! Yah the GT3 Pro was a blast. I’m bummed because I must not have pressed record on my testing of it in Race mode. Footage wasn’t on my camera when I got home :(. The torque and acceleration were insane, yet beautifully controlled. I’ve been missing out haha.
@tomsgadgetgarage I've never actually tried race mode on the GT2. Sport mode is insane enough for me. I weigh 140 pounds, so it's quick enough for me in sport mode. The GT units are addictive to ride.
Such a hard decision. Bigger battery and better specs/hardware all around on the single motor GT3 over the G3, but a whole lot of extra weight that comes with it. I think I might have to pull the trigger for $1500 this time. 😅 Awesome review given your limited testing environment.
Thank you! Yah it’s tough haha. I also thoroughly enjoyed the F3 Pro because it was so light and nimble. Made it hard to choose a single standout option. The GT3 rides like a luxury liner. Everything about it is smooth. It’s hard to describe but it felt like no other scooter I’ve ever ridden.
If size and weight aren’t a major issue, the GT3 is the way to go. We’ll have to see what the pricing looks like in the G3, but if they can price it similar to the G2, they’ll probably struggle to keep it in stock haha.
Great video
Thank you!
What is F3's weight?
44lbs / 19.9kg for the Pro, 42lbs / 19 kg for the regular F3
@@tomsgadgetgarage Thank you. F2 Pro weights 18.5kg. So F3 gained 1.4 kg, doesn't seem much for improved front suspension and added rear suspension.
What I honestly don't like is that you can't attach any accessories to a handlebar like this. Because it's probably too thick and not straight 🤔
So there’s a rubber trim piece on the handlebar that the Segway team says will be removable to expose the handlebar for accessories. Similar to the ZT3 Pro. I didn’t see that in action to confirm, but they said it will be a thing. Hopefully it is.
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that would be really cool, hopefully it really works 🙏
That or Segway will offer a specially designed mount you can only get from them
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I gotta say I like the specs of the G3 but I’m not a fan of the design. It’s too bulky and it lost its minimalistic look to it. Especially for those that commute through train or buses. However after seeing the F3/F3 Pro, I feel that will be more for people that commute through trains or buses. Solid reviews though.
Yeah, they definitely added some bulk upfront. I was really impressed with the F3 Pro. I had more fun on it than the G3 because it's 10 pounds lighter and feels much more nimble. I'd be interested to see how the overall performance profile of the F3 Pro compares to that of the Max G2. It has more nominal and peak power. I just wish they posted torque specs because that would lift some of the mystery.
Those little ramps are not a real test. Momentum will carry you up and over it. To really test it, you need to go on a real hill where a sustained load can be put on it. Here in Calif (LA area) too many people ride these on the sidewalk at very high speed. I got hit by some guy on a Lime scooter. He jumped up and said "My Bad" and rode off. By the way, I am an amputee in an electric wheel chair and I was thrown out of my chair. Had to use my own medical insurance to get stitches. Unfortunately not many users have insurance.
Oh man that sucks. Hopefully you recovered quickly from that. The town where I live actually made it illegal to use scooters in the bike lane. They are only permitted on streets with speeds of 25mph or less and sidewalks. Thankfully a scooter loving city is just across the street. Scooters on sidewalks doesn’t make sense to me. A lady out here was sent to the ICU because a kid plowed into her at 20mph and fled the scene.
As for those ramps, definitely not a good test of hill climb performance. I actually test most scooters on an endurance hill climb (~1,900 ft elevation gain over 9.5miles of uphill riding) and a very steep 23% grade on the Phoenix Metro’s steepest publicly accessible paved road.
4 some reason I feel like the Max G3 should get more than an est range 34miles…I get more than that on my Max G2 !!!!
It may very well be able to get more depending on your weight and riding conditions. When I got my G2 new, I got 32 miles. Then there were a bunch of firmware updates and I gained weight lol. Now I get 22 miles on the G2 and 23 on the ZT3 Pro. It looks like the new G3 uses the same exact battery as the ZT3 Pro. Given that it weighs less than the ZT3 and has street tread, I think I’d be able to squeeze out 26/27 miles of range. We’ll see when they release it in the spring.
Pity these are all locked to 25 KPH in my Nation Australia.
Yah 25 KMH is really unfortunate. I went to Europe last summer and checked out some cool looking scooters, but they too had the crazy limits on speed :(
Probably a hack to unlock them.
@@Bryan-yq9pz good luck w8 for software unlocks on these. gonna take years if ppl even gonna bother because new display/firmware could be even more harder to hack than previous scooters.
@@Bryan-yq9pz right now you can unlock the ZTD3 with a vpn connected to the US, maybe possible for the new ones too
@@ChoJun69 a vpn wouldnt solve it?
I ride motorcycles I would know if the twist is bad
Personally love the thumb 😊throttle
Yeah, thumb throttles are nice on scooters. Index finger throttles are pretty sweet as well.
How many ppl will be killed on them?
That’s the peculiar thing about this journey we call life. There’s danger at every corner, yet we still step out that front door into the world to experience what it has to offer. The best we can do is measure the risks and rewards and see if the juice is worth the squeeze. And if it is, take the necessary precautions to mitigate risk.