Ancient African Christianity, The Black Church & Dismantling White Supremacy - Dr. Vince Bantu

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
  • Vince L. Bantu (PhD, The Catholic University of America) is Assistant Professor of Church History and Black Church Studies at Fuller Theological Seminary in Houston, TX. Vince also serves as the Ohene (President) of Meachum School of Haymanot, an institution providing contextual theological education for the Black church and community.
    www.fuller.edu/faculty/vince-...
    He is the author of Gospel Haymanot: A Constructive Theology and Critical Reflection on African and Diasporic Christianity (2020) and A Multitude of All Peoples: Engaging Ancient Christianity’s Global Identity (2020), as well as numerous articles on global Christianity, Syriac and Nubian Christianity, apologetics, justice, evangelism, and African American theology. Check out his author profile and books at IVP:
    www.ivpress.com/vince-l-bantu
    He has earned graduate degrees at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (MDIV), Princeton Theological Seminary (THM), and The Catholic University of America (MA, PHD).
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    Index
    00:00 Intro
    00:13 Dr. Bantu’s Calling
    00:55 Cultural Alienation from the Gospel
    04:02 Ministry & Academia
    06:14 Decolonizing our Faith
    06:49 Ancient Christianity in Africa
    08:41 Ethnic Representation in Church
    10:32 Examples of White Supremacy
    15:20 Celebrating vs Denying Cultural Distinctions
    15:52 Representations of the Image of God
    17:17 Peter & Gentile Believers
    21:32 Dismantling White Supremacy
    25:55 George Floyd & White Evangelical Response
    28:45 How to Support BIPOC Christians
    31:07 Early African Christianity
    33:00 Council of Chalcedon
    36:26 European Christianity vs African Christianity
    38:00 Divinity of Christ & Hypostatic Union
    41:11 Syrian & Egyptian Church Response to Christian Persecution
    43:22 Rejecting Oppressive Churches
    45:30 The Black Church
    47:22 Frederick Douglas
    48:13 The Slave Bible
    51:04 Raising Anti-Racist Kids

Комментарии • 44

  • @mjewing8
    @mjewing8 2 года назад +10

    Been waiting for another believer to bring this out for over 30yrs!

    • @nikinai4374
      @nikinai4374 10 месяцев назад

      BANTU numerically singular MONOTHEISM is akin to and IDENTICAL to ANCIENT HEBREW monotheism
      1) VATICAN I is CONSTANTINIAN ROMAN CATHOLICISM which came out of MITHRAISM that was called the SYNAGOGUE of SATAN because they practiced HUMAN, CHILD "sacrificial" SON-WORSHIP-Ezek 8:14-17. >>Romanism CREATED its own sects of ISLAM like MYSTIC SUFISM
      2) VATICAN II is Esau is Edomite-Herodian religion is Charismatic Catholicism which is typified as "JEZEBEL" who TAUGHT the APOSTOLIC CHURCH Spiritual fornication and the Synagogue of Satan's doctrine of crucifixion Christology NICOLAITAN doctrine of SALVATION by "sacrificial" SON-WOSHIP which came from the MITHRAIC SYNAGOGUE of SATAN. They went on to CREATE,
      >> ISLAM and
      >>the COUNTER REFORMATION Prosperity gospel EVANGELICAL PROTESTANTISM like CRYSTAL(ball) CATHEDRAL of Katherine Kuhn, Bill Hyball, Kenneth Copeland, and Benny Hill
      3) ORTHODOX and COPTIC CHURCH is APOSTATE APOSTOLIC CHURCH version of Christianity which CREATED,
      >>MAINSTREAM PROTESTANTISM like the ANGLICAN, PRESBYTERIAN, METHODIST and the BAPTIST church
      4) There was NO CLASSISM in BANTU ITURI so-called "Africa" by ROmans, and there was NO COLOURISM untill the COLONIAL RAPES began to produce LIGHT SKIN children who were given ARAB and ROMAN privileges of the colonizers making LIGHT SKIN a colour of PRIOVILEGE. However, even today, there is NO PRIORITIZATION of LIGHT SKIN in BANTU ITURI except in relation to COLONIAL DISCOURSES.
      >>The rural BANTU has NO NOTION of LGHT SKIN as BETTER, because for BANTU people LIGHT SKIN was associated with the COLONIZERS children and therefore as children of INFIDELITY who gave birth to ALBINO children whom EVERY BANTU FEARED to have.BANTU ITURI was always A NUMERICALLY SINGULAR MONOTHEISTIC belief system NO DIFFERENT from the HEBREW conception of a SINGULAR DEITY who is the CREATOR-just like Deut 6:4; Exod 3:14; Isaiah 44:8, Isaiah 44:24; Prov 8:22-30ff; Rev 17 The BAntu THEN and NOW did not and DO NOT believe in the SEPARATION of BODY and SOUL, the person LIVED as a WHOLE BEING whose BREATH was from the CREATOR and when that BREATHE EXPIRED it did so as GAS runs out of a TANK< leading to DEATH. Therefore the DEAD was considered like AN EMPTY GAS TANK, without BREATH hence DEAD, and NO PART of it was CONSCIOUS in ANY SENSE. However the BANTU believed in the RESURRECTION "IRIÚKO" of the WHOLE PERSON like a GAS TANK refilled with GAS!
      5) Supposed "African spirituality" is a product of ARAB and INDIAN TRADER cultures which believed in the SEPARATION of the BODY and SOUL giving rise to theri belief in GHOSTS, which they then WORSHIPED as "acncestral spirits" These "ancestral demon spirits" were taught to BANTU people of coastal and SAHEL(Sahara)regions who traded with the Indo-Arabs, that is why they RETAINED the ARABIC terms like MAJINI(in the WATER(maji); MAMI(mother)-WATA(water); VODOO which is a corruption of the original meaning of COMMEMORATION of the TRULY DEAD forefathers, but NOT as GHOSTS or SPIRITS but in the same way as HEBREWS remember theri FOREFATHERS)-ORISHAS are HINDU demons which were given a NIGERIAN ACCENTED pronunciation. These were accepted originally by DARKSKIN MIXED race children of INDO-ARAB children with BANTU peoples as their FATHERS or MOTHERS religions just like MAJINI and MAMI WATER were INDO-ARAB demon JINIS...and NOT BANTU ancestors by any definition, thats why the names are INDO-ARAB.
      6) BANTU NEVER could believe in TRINITY or ARIANISM which are considered POLYTHEISTIC beliefs by TRUE BANTU people because there is NO NOTION Of a PLURAL "God" in the BANTU languages across the continent have NO CONCEPT of GOD as a PLURAL. The PRIEST and the COMMUNITY BELIEF akin to a "church" was RESPECTED but NOT as DEITIES even in the "gods"(Psa 82:6=John 10:34) just as HUMANS who did or FAILED to DO theri MORAL DUTY. Therefore TINIT-ARAINISM TRIUNISM and ARAINISM is completely LINGUISTICALLY, EPITTEMOLOGICALLY and ONTOLOGICALLY ANTITHETICAL to BANTU belief about the CREATOR. CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM corrupted the BELIEF in the HEBRAIC TYPE numerically singular BANTU MONOTHEISM. To the BANTU the CREATOR is SPIRIT, but they were and are still willing to see how the SPIRIT could MANIFEST in the form of A MAN because they also believed ANGELS helped them by MANIFESTING as HUMANS or A CREATURE known to humans. So, WITCHCRAFT was just THAT, demon worship and that is why its practitioners of so-called "ancestor" worship or veneration was KNOWN to be DEMON WORSHIP!-called KUCHEZA(Gúcietha)-NGOMA(the completely UNCONSCIOUS sleep of the DEAD) meaning NOT as SWAHILI explains as PLAYING(Kucheza) DRUMS(NGOMA) which is TOTALLY WRONG, but to PLAY(gúthaka) WITH, or properly to LOOK FOR(gúcietha) DEMONS who were known to be CONSCIOUS SPIRITS that resided in the EARTH. This is why CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM are really HEATHEN religions as far as BANTU BELIEF system in a numerically singular MONOTHEISM goes.
      The DAYS of the WEEK are all heathen NAMES;
      >>the god SUN day
      >>the goddess MOON day
      >>TUE-the god TIU's day
      >>the day of WED/DINGS day
      >>the god THOR'S day
      >>the god FRIGIUS day
      >>the planet SATURNS day

  • @sheilareallovemchoney3889
    @sheilareallovemchoney3889 2 года назад +4

    So interesting. Learned a lot. Very informative

  • @delgadopodcast
    @delgadopodcast  3 года назад +9

    Index
    00:00​ Intro
    00:13​ Dr. Bantu’s Calling
    00:55​ Cultural Alienation from the Gospel
    04:02​ Ministry & Academia
    06:14​ Decolonizing our Faith
    06:49​ Ancient Christianity in Africa
    08:41​ Ethnic Representation in Church
    10:32​ Examples of White Supremacy
    15:20​ Celebrating vs Denying Cultural Distinctions
    15:52​ Representations of the Image of God
    17:17​ Peter & Gentile Believers
    21:32​ Dismantling White Supremacy
    25:55​ George Floyd & White Evangelical Response
    28:45​ How to Support BIPOC Christians
    31:07​ Early African Christianity
    33:00​ Council of Chalcedon
    36:26​ European Christianity vs African Christianity
    38:00​ Divinity of Christ & Hypostatic Union
    41:11​ Syrian & Egyptian Church Response to Christian Persecution
    43:22​ Rejecting Oppressive Churches
    45:30​ The Black Church
    47:22​ Frederick Douglas
    48:13​ The Slave Bible
    51:04​ Raising Anti-Racist Kids
    Podcast:
    www.mikedelgado.org/podcast/vince-bantu/

  • @johntobey1558
    @johntobey1558 2 года назад +6

    Is it an issue in India, because they had Christians there before British colonization.

  • @vynesha333
    @vynesha333 2 года назад +3

    Powerful!

  • @willielee5253
    @willielee5253 2 года назад +5

    @Dr. Thomas Oden, author of "How Africa Shaped the Christian mind " a white Christian historian that has a 3 min. intro plus 4 vid on the same subjec
    at 45 min. each.

  • @richardsmith6830
    @richardsmith6830 9 месяцев назад

    This man makes a lot of sense -- though I am no longer a Christian.

  • @bobbyallen7977
    @bobbyallen7977 2 года назад +4

    Hmmm. As a white guy in the Way I never had any inclinations that white supremacy had anything more to do with Yeshua's church than even a rock.I suppose it does in some people minds but then we know them by their fruits.

    • @goyensjonathandjalmoztfr33
      @goyensjonathandjalmoztfr33 2 года назад +1

      I appreciate you listening brother. Unfortunately it runs way deep we're talking all the way back to ancient rome. Humans are flawed YESHUA is GOD. Our faith is so logical we can't yet we try to make shalom he did and he does through us when we're focused up . 🤷🏽

  • @lindapippert5166
    @lindapippert5166 2 года назад +3

    Amazing!!! Thank you so much for this great information. May we all love our brothers and sisters in every church tradition in a new way. This past year has been such an education for me about black and brown churches...the wonderful history that needs to be shared with the entire church.

  • @mjewing8
    @mjewing8 2 года назад +3

    actually if one would look at some of old maps Israel itself is actually east Africa before Suez Canal.

  • @eugenephillips481
    @eugenephillips481 2 года назад +2

    Amen.

  • @mikehood3424
    @mikehood3424 2 года назад +3

    Revealing the Son Melchizedek/Yahusha
    Genesis 49:10-12 (AKJV) 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. 11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: 12 his eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
    Psalm 40:7-9 (AKJV) 7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, 8 I delight to do thy will, O my Yah: yea, thy law is within my heart. 9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O MOST HIGH , thou knowest.
    Daniel 10:6 (AKJV) 6 his body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
    Isaiah 53:2 (AKJV) 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
    John 1:1 (AKJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Yahua, and the Word was Yahushas.
    Hebrews 7:14 (AKJV) 14 For it is evident that our Master sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
    Revelation 1:14-15 (AKJV) 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
    Hebrews 10:7 (AKJV) 7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O Yahua.
    Hebrews 13:8 (AKJV) 8 [The] HaMashiach Yahusha the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
    Revelation 18:6 (AKJV) 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
    Isaiah 60:10-12 (AKJV) 10 And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee. 11 Therefore thy gates shall be open continually;
    they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought. 12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.

  • @mikehood3424
    @mikehood3424 2 года назад +1

    Deuteronomy 7:6 (AKJV) 6 For thou art an holy people unto the MOST HIGH thy Alahim: the MOST HIGH thy Alahim hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
    Deuteronomy 26:18 (AKJV) 18And the MOST HIGH hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promJacob (a.k.a. Israel - Father of the 12 tribes) to Shem son of Noah

  • @christabeldlamini9119
    @christabeldlamini9119 3 года назад +3

    I am really interested. I was saved at 9years and I desired to walk with God all my life. But somehow I was always pushed aside.

  • @johntobey1558
    @johntobey1558 2 года назад +3

    Augustin e of Hippo was probably Black, because he came from Tunisia 🇹🇳 area.

  • @johntobey1558
    @johntobey1558 2 года назад +1

    Dr. BANTU,
    Why did you leave the faculty at Covenant Theological Seminary. . .Christianity is rooted to Jewish culture. Not all people in the Western world are White. . .I do not see New England culture in mainstream Mega Churches in Big Eva. . .there is no one monolithic white culture. What makes you talk as though there is.
    Concerned,
    John Tobey III

  • @rebeccasingletary4615
    @rebeccasingletary4615 2 года назад

    I was made by YAHUAH not the word God or Lord

  • @TheRJRabbit23
    @TheRJRabbit23 2 года назад +2

    The image of “White Jesus m” is from the Borgia family in the 1500s. Yeshua’s skin was not even white but African (dark skinned)

    • @ayolovephat
      @ayolovephat Год назад

      JESUS was Jewish, not African. And yes, I'm a Nigerian woman stating it. Cheers.

    • @myztroogeegibson3568
      @myztroogeegibson3568 Месяц назад

      Jesus was a yuda/juda ie a Judean not jew. Thus an ancient Hebrew just like one of the 12 tribes of Israel of igbo tribe in Nigeria. They rather refer to themselves as Hebrews rather than being called a jew. Who were the colonialist or invaders. ​@@ayolovephat

  • @mjewing8
    @mjewing8 2 года назад +1

    Even if a black pastor pastors church composed of whites the whites tend to undermine that black pastor.

    • @ladym7852
      @ladym7852 7 дней назад

      I doubt it. Blacks undermine blacks at greater proportions…

  • @mikehood3424
    @mikehood3424 2 года назад +2

    THE MEANING OF BEING SAVED - STOP TWISTING SCRIPTURE
    Luke 1:68-71(AKJV) 68 Blessed be the Most High Alahim of (Negro) Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, 69 and hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; 70 as he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: 71 that we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

    • @ivorysmith239
      @ivorysmith239 2 года назад +3

      No. You are wrong. The word “Negro” you added that word in there and it’s not found in the original text and God has a warning for those who add to His Word:
      I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. (Revelation 22:18)

  • @mjewing8
    @mjewing8 2 года назад +3

    Black ppl never appropriated any racism bcz we don't have the power to be racist.

    • @johntobey1558
      @johntobey1558 2 года назад

      No black people are ever racist? Really?

    • @ayolovephat
      @ayolovephat Год назад +3

      I disagree. Every race has the capacity to be racist. By the way, I'm a Nigerian woman stating that, so....

    • @greggoff4040
      @greggoff4040 8 месяцев назад

      Racism is position and power to oppressed another race or ethnic group. Blacks don't have the power or position to oppress anyone.

    • @adrien1623
      @adrien1623 3 месяца назад

      Soon you will and we will then see ur character

    • @myztroogeegibson3568
      @myztroogeegibson3568 Месяц назад

      ​@@ayolovephatethnocentrism doesn't equate racism, being a Nigerian make you a through African in touch with it spirituality.

  • @hanaini
    @hanaini 4 месяца назад

    r. Bantu We approximate you but please do not misrepresente Ethiopian Orthodox church. Estiphanos created a wrong teaching. Just because you agree with his wrong teaching - you don't have to demonize our church and King. We do not pray to dead people. You are using wester tactics to demonize the church and try to making less the white invented church that you follow