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Hell is real. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9

32:47 According to Rabbinic tradition Jonah did die. Comparing this event with Jonah of a Literal event, to other prophets metaphorical events does a disservice to the text. When David is running from Saul, or feeling betrayed by Joab, he is not literally dying. Jonah is sinking to the depths of the Sea. He is literally dying. A human can only servive maybe 2 minutes holding their breath. A human can only survive how many feet below water, before the pressure kills them. We dismiss the idea of Jonah dying because we think how can a human body pray, when the body is dead. But it is the soul that is praying. The soul speaks in ways we cannot understand. In the same breath we dismiss praying because someone is in death. We also acknowledge Jesus speaks to the dead in Sheoul. How can the dead in Sheoul hear Jesus, but Jonah in Sheoul cannot speak to Got. In Eclesiastes Solomon says the dead have no impact on the living. But that has nothing to do with the Spiritual Realm.

This reminds me of so many Superhero stories. Superman (Smallville series) sparing Lex Luther. Only to have Lex Luther kill his family, destroy his Love, his city. The World. It would be so much easier to just Kill the bad guys. Yet Super Heroes always have this extreme hupersensative state o mercy and compassion.

How are there not more views and comments. This is soon good.

It’s crazy how loud some churches have their music. Do non-autistic people love having their eardrums blasted? I also hate when we have to shake hands. Firstly… gross. A large percentage of people don’t wash their hands. It’s a great way to spread germs. Secondly… what good does it do to say hi to 6 or so different people in about 2 minutes? What is accomplished?

Gehenna is much more complicated than just a dump outside Jerusalem. Jews of that day, and Jews today too, saw it as a place of punishment in the afterlife. For Jews it is more of a purgatory of 12 months max. So Jews do not mourn for loved ones past 11 months, because that'd be dishonoring father and mother to say they were evil enough to deserve the max punishment. In Jesus' day, it wasn't as clear how long it would be, or if someone could be annhilated completely. Some rabbis thought the very evil would never leave gehenna, either being tormented forever, like later views of hell, or to be annhilated. They used Jerusalem as a symbol of heaven or peace with God in a holy place, so being thrown "outside the gates" to a place of separation meant punishment, so they chose a literal place outside the gates, the valley of gehenna, to symbolize it. Confusing. But people who believe in eternal hell could make a case Jesus meant a permanent gehenna. Those who believe in universalism or annihlationism could also have good cases to make, since the idea of gehenna was a pretty fluid symbol at that time. I will agree that to just translate it as "hell" is pretty misleading. It's a word that should probably not be translated since it has so much additional meaning to it and translating it would be a theological decision. Could just as easily translate it 'purgatory.'

Sad to learn that people have been lied to for 2000 years

Im to scared to go to church because of my adhd/ASD I dont seem to fit in ..I try hard to beat the social isolation i feel its so hard to be accepted for who you are ..Never been able to make friends and find my relationship with God full of doubts at times

As a legally blind man I say with vision impairment I see true colors of some Christian’s often times it’s hard for a guy like me too make friends.

Oh boy...no matter what one says here..some one... some where will have one or more issues...the narratives...as put forth by so many...actually many narratives...we...the people ...have been decieved...by many..for a long time...the most elect have been some of the greatest decievers..the old wolves in sheeps clothing deal...any and all of the religious texts..are crafted...to create spells of deceiption...under the guise of being the holiest of words..kings..queens..clergy..claiming divinity ...the dark agenda is their true agenda...rule by deception...rule by murder..you disagree..they kill you..

Respect for Tom Wright. Rightly so, the world rejects the political and religious facades of Western belief and expression. Modernity was/is detached from spiritual reality... the crucified, risen, and indwelling Christ Jesus. Watching folks "go East" (tho it too is hollow) makes sense as they find the "West" living out the decline of bankrupt materialism and moralism. Sadly, being truly "spiritual" has been hijacked by monism and mysticism. The Christian-religious response (i.e. sectarian Christian thought) is to lump all those who emphasize "being spiritual" as monists, gnostics, etc. Here's to finding true spirituality in Jesus alone as expressed here... "Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!" (2Cor13:5) This reality... indwelling of Jesus, divine life restored and manifest in human function... is the DIVIDING LINE between authentic spirituality and Christian-religion. Anything other or less than an INDWELLING CHRIST, is moralism and walking according to the Flesh.

Crowded, loud, I have to squelch the urge not to run out screaming. No thanx.

Jesus was warning the Jews that judgment would come upon them for rejecting him. And 40 years later, Jerusalem was destroyed, the temple was decimated, and many Jews were exiled. And for the past 2, 000 years, Jews have suffered a lot while Gentiles received the Gospel and did better in a lot of ways.

Maybe Gehenna is a hebrew term Jesus was using ...jews believe Gehenum is Hell and Muslim call Hell Jahanam.

Do you believe Jesus us the only way to God, are you a Christian?

What the Bible says is upon death, we undergo corruption and become dust once more. If our name is found in the book of life, we will be resurrected at the trumpet call for the resurrection of the begotten, to an indestructible body and rewards as the Lord sees fit. We will rule and reign with Yeshua for 1000 years. If our name is not in the book of life, we will continue to be in the grave until we are resurrected for judgment. At which time we will be given a new body, and personally undergo God’s judgment of our life.

Nutcheck!

Lake of fire

Lake of fire

Exactly. But again, he was using metaphor. He was basically saying that if you keep sinning, you will experience bad things, both physically and mentally. He was verifying the Law that was actually meant to save people from physical/mental disease and early death, which IS what Gehenna IS.

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Thank you so much for putting this out there. ❤

But in Maccabees, Jews make a sacrifice for their fallen comrades, which makes Catholics believe in purgatory, and it was mentioned in the New Testament. So did Jesus in the Old Testament not really believe in eternal life?

He was on about here the world occupied by humans if he spoke about it at all because his teachings defo been twisted

Need a longer clip here because if that is all there is of this discussion, that is a very poor etymological breakdown. Need the etymology of the word hell as well and why that word was chosen to translate gehenna. This also needs a larger discussion on other sayings of Jesus, like: "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." Bart must be smarter than this... unless his last name is Simpson.

I love the idea of spending eternity in the bosom of Abraham. Much better than bring tormented by a flame. (Luke 16:24)

In Acts 17 Paul speaks that all nations are of one blood, and he also teaches there is neither Jew nor Gentile, bond or free, male and female in the body of Christ are equal.

In my ancestry there are Irish, German, Native American, and one Black man, yet i look white. There are many Americans of mixed ancestries. I had an uncle married to a Jewish woman and i have three cousins half Jewish.

At my church some of us use canes and walkers, are hearing impaired and there is invisible disabilities too.

This was so helpful and informative! Thank you for such an open conversation and the tangible steps we can take to make church more inclusive.

What were some of these core theological differences he mentioned between the church of Rome and Africa? I've read from the early church fathers and there didn't appear to be major theological differences between the writings of Augustine, Origen, Tertullian, from people like Polycarp, Irenaus, John Crystosom. The differences they expressed were just minor positions of how to follow the text properly, the only things that could be considered major disagreement is whether Jesus was fully God and one with the father. Tertullian was condemned as a heretic because he believed in subordinationism that Jesus was not coequal to the Father, this was a position that was likely proto-Arianism which became a major force in the third century and was voted against by the bishops of the Council of Nicea, with a couple earlier synods condemning it as well. Augustine and Origen also didn't believe in a literal interpretation of the garden of Eden, as far as I know they were the only church fathers would held to that position, and that's a controversial position for some people except for theistic evolutionists.

The dangers of having a mind that is incapable of understanding something beyond face value

J. I. Packer ruined his reputation by signing ECT.

Great message Dr. Lamar Hardwick

“Hell is not a place, no, but a state of the soul. That begins here on earth. Just so Paradise dwells in the heart of man. It is in this life, in this bodily form, that we may first touch the Divine.” St. Maximovich

“Hell” spelled backwards is “lleh” and pronounced “lay”

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Thanks Dr. Lamar. I follow you on FB. I must remember what you were talking about, contextual bodies, flesh and spirit dichotomy.

Follow this guy and you will end up in Hell!

Ah, science, where would the Bible be without science? They didn't assume the moon gave off its own light. God said it did.

We received the Gospel from the Catholic Church. They formalised the doctrine of the Trinity which all Christians recognise and accept. Instead of being divided, we should focus on what unites us: the love of God and neighbour and the saving work of our Lord Jesus Christ. There is but one Church which is his body. May she flourish and prosper by the power of the Holy Spirit for the glory of God, Amen

According to the saying of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, “the fire that the son of Adam kindles is but one part of seventy parts of the fire of Jahannam.” He also said: “(Hellfire) was favored by sixty nine parts.” In another saying he said: “On the day of Resurrection, the person who will receive the least punishment among the people of the Fire, wears two sleepers made from the fire of Jahannam causing his brain to boil, just as a pot boils. He thinks that none in the Fire is receiving a more severe torment than he, when in fact he is receiving the least torment.” The Quran is full of references to the hellfire. The Prophet, pbuh, also said that after death there are only two places, heaven or hell.

According to a saying of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, “the fire that the son of Adam kindles is but one part of the seventy parts of the fire of Jahannam.” He further said “(Hellfire) was favored by sixty nine parts.” In another saying he remarked that “on the day of Resurrection, the person who will receive the least punishment among the people of the Fire, wears two sleepers made from the Fire of Jahannam causing his brain to boil, just as a pot boils. He thinks that none in the Fire is receiving a more severe torment than he, when in fact he is receiving the least torment.” The Quran is full of references to Jahannam, which is the Arabic word for hell. The Quran mentions that those who go to Jannah, heaven are the truly successful ones while those who go to Jahannam, hell are the real losers. Both success and failure in this life is temporary and therefore it is neither success nor failure. It is mere deception.

No. Gehenna was the city dump. In Roman times if you died in Roman custody, and a lot of people did, your body would be cast onto the dump, and burned with the garbage. Kind of a Wes Craven nightmare of half burnt bodies, bones with the acrid smells of burning flesh and hair. This is what Jesus said Hell is like.

r. Bantu We approximate you but please do not misrepresente Ethiopian Orthodox church. Estiphanos created a wrong teaching. Just because you agree with his wrong teaching - you don't have to demonize our church and King. We do not pray to dead people. You are using wester tactics to demonize the church and try to making less the white invented church that you follow

This what I've been seeking ,thanks

What does Dr Erhman think of the catholic concept of purgatory?

Hell is other people.

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