An In-Depth Look At Vincent Valentine
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The interesting part of Vincent is that he is the only playable character that actually knows Sephiroth's true origin, while everyone else thinks Sephi's is a descendant of Jenova.
Yet, he doesn't tell anyone
@@lunastrife8342 he does hint at it when talking to him in the coffin referring to Lucrecia as sephiroth's mother
@@isauldron4337 and when you have him in the party before the fight with Hojo
An interesting theory is that there is a small possibility that he is the father of Sephiroth. Being related to Lucrecia and Vincent, also with Hojo and using the Jonova cells that are inside him.
It’s crazy to think that Cloud or any of the SOLDIERS who have existed before could’ve easily been as strong as Sephiroth, some stronger than him if they had been Jenova + Lifestream enhanced right from birth.
Angeal is very close to that, since he’s inherited Jenova cells from birth too, albeit indirectly instead of injected
Vincent just looks like he should be a Castlevania character
or hellsing or trinty blood
Just think. If Zack had woken Vincent up in Crisis Core, he could would have met Sephiroth, and told him the truth of his origin. Then the events of FFVII might not have happened.
That actually happened in a fanfic! It’s called Haunted House, and it’s on fanfiction.net.
Negative. Sephiroth was made to be a powerful character that loses his mind. It's the base nature of the character, and its role within the story.
Well now we will see moore of Vincent and zak in the remake trust cnt wait
OR lucrecia could have quit being a useless crybaby.vincent tried to console HER after learning she was there when HIS father died. instead she just runs into Hojos arms. if she wasn't so oversensitive she could have stayed with vincent, then sephiroth wouldn't be born. or at least he wouldn't be part jenova.
That is... wow... actually, mind blown!
you forgot to mention that Vincent was given the role of destroying the world when chaos decided to fuse with him.
Vincents chaos form is his actual form but he doesn't use it till later because he was unable to accept not being human anymore.
The reason Vincent falls into pity and regret so often is because he is now the darkness of man. Regret, sorrow, sadness, pain etc. etc.
Brett Skinner Great point! It's hard to hit every single detail when there's so much to talk about, so I'm glad people can fill in the cracks through comments :)
Man, what a tragic character, and also one of the most important in regards to the story of FF7. It's a shame he never gets to live happily ever after with Lucrecia.
He did not mention that Vincent is the only one to not wear a parachute during the assault on midgard mission, reason why, because he can FLY.
Batmaaaan tululululuuu Batmaaaan
@@raiden6259 nah vampire man
O shit, I didn’t realize that
before the fight with sephiroth when he's stretching/choking everyone, vincent is the only one not struggling just takes the pain like "ive felt worse"
@@IWillYeah vampires turn to bats
0:39 even '97 vincent had emo hair before emo kids figured out they were emo.
Vincent has had a troubled life.
Same with everyone on the party...
@@Matanumi Except Cait Sith
Nah fam
More like lucrecia act like a bitch
I think that's an understatement
I had a magazine with info on FF7 before it was released and they had a poster of Vincent in it.Due to his badass look and sharing my name, I bought and played it. Final Fantasy 7 is by far my Favorite/ best game I've ever played. Thank you Vincent. And Thank you 4-8 for this great video.
were you able to recruit Vincent in your first playthrough though?
Thats actully a great story
"does anyone have a phone i can borrow??
sweet fucking entrance holy man
"...And most importantly, Tom, the host of Toonami." Holy shit.
+ARegularPanda
That surprised me the most.
well damn! no idea vincent was was that toonami bastard xD
I was more surprised that he didn't mention Spike
i suprised in "METAL KABUTERIMON"
Me too. He also didn’t mention Orochimaru from Naruto, Mugen from Samurai Champloo, Leeron from Gurren Lagaan, or etc, etc. The list gets too long.
I can just imagine Vincent sending old man texts to the party members:
"Heenolo cLoud. I awsish t takl to yu. MET MEE A KLAM WH IT CALPTIAL.
-YORS REPSEPCTIBLY VICNETN
Dolphinboi okay but the “-YORS REPSEPCTIBLY VICNETN” keeps getting me and I haven’t stopped laughing since
Man I can’t wait to see this become (hopefully) canon in the remake
Vincent didn't really lie to Lucrecia, Sephiroth was dead at the time. Everything he had been doing throughout the game was from the lifestream.
Technically true, but its more of a half truth since the real answer should have included "and btw he's trying to destroy the entire planet"
blew my mind to see how many roles vincents voice actor played lol
Nice video! You guys just won another subscriber. However found just a couple errors and oversights:
1:He wasn't a supervisor during his time on the Turks, he was assigned as Hojo and Lucrecia's bodyguard.
2:Lucrecia's cave can be accessed by black or green chocobo too, and you don't need to wait until disc3 to get again to the cave: just 20 battles will do, making Chaos and Death Penalty available during the Hojo boss fight.
3: Advent Children occurs 2 years after the game, and Dirge of Cerberus is set 3 years after the original game. The two years between the game and Advent Children are explained in the novella series "On the Way to a Smile".
My favourite part about Vincent is that he picks up his guns and joins ff8 as well. He truly is immortal.
Or should I say Laguna?
Uhh no?
@@daveunknown01 it's a joke bro
pretty sure Lucrecia is the true villain of FF7, she chooses HOJO over Vincent, then gets pregnant with HOJO's baby, then lets him mutate the baby with Jenova cells after he kills Vincent and mutates him, and finally never bothers to talk to her child (Sephiroth) and explain to him how he was born making it far less likely hed wind up worshiping Jenova
What a bitch!
The relationship between hojo and luc is abusive and i think she was forced to do alot of the bad things. I think she first took hojo over vincent for hojo is a genius but later came to regret it.
There is a scene in Dirge of Cerberus where Lucrecia begs Hojo to give her son back. Hojo only replies by asking how her latest experiment is going.(Presumably during the time she develops the protomateria to help Vincent hold back Chaos). Lucrecia runs off in despair saying she doesn't know or care. She just wants to see her son even if just one more time. Yet another reason why Hojo is such a dick.
she had issues, who ditches a hot classy guy that love you sincerely for an ugly mad scientist? and he was abusive, like hello? bitch is crazy, i can't even fathom what was on her mind, she's either brainwashed or being manipulated because you can't be that fucking dumb, blind and crazy at the same time.
@@dimasbram7176 Fuck you! Hojo is a genious!
I managed to have Vincent land the final blow on Hojo during the boss fight. It felt pretty great ngl.
I still love the fact that Vincent was voiced by Spike's actor after hearing news of AC.
Y-you forgot that Vincent is also really cute and has *impossible* hair! D:
Zeithri ...Impossible hair? His hair looks plausible to me. What’s impossible about it, besides the fact that it never seems to tangle? Even then, most fictional characters’ hair never tangled unless it’s either a plot point or the hair is supposed to be messy.
do you know what wax is? do you know what a hairdryer is? lol the ignorance
@@shadowblitzo123 maybe they don't exist in FF7s Gaia? Lol the :Trollface:
@@IWillYeah well maybe they do? how would you know they DON'T exist in Gaia? Lol the :Trollface:
white people talking shit because they don't know how to style hair
I don't know how many times i played FFVII, but i always liked Vincent. My party was always Cloud with Vincent and either Barret/Cid. He always had the "it" factor and had a great back story. However, i hated Dirge of Cerberus, i played it half way until i couldnt anymore.
Just an fyi, Vincents enhanced abilities such as his semi-immortality, super human abilities and transformations are from Hojo's experiments.
Being infused with Chaos from Lucrecia only allowed him to come out of his deathlike state after Hojo shot him as he was slowly dying as a result.
This was why Hojo branded him a failure after he was done working on Vincent. So while he lost Chaos after Dirge of Cerberus, he still retained all his precious abilities.
Thank God they're rebooting that story because the only thing keeping him alive was Chaos to begin with. Losing that would kill him and if he died on the end that would be a fitting death but man survives because reason.
Let him keep Chaos as the protector of earth instead of its destroyer
The suave character flirting with the girls became Irvine fron FF8 lol
So.. I never tried it out, and since nobody reported ever on it.. What if you play the game past the part where you kill hojo and then wake up Vincent. Does he still ask if you're going to find hojo?
This is a cool question, so I decided to look into it, and the answer is actually pretty interesting. The normal text is: Vincent: "If I go with you will I meet Hojo?" Cloud: "Dunno. But we're after him and Sephiroth. So, I guess sooner or later..." If you recruit Vincent after killing Hojo, Vincent still asks the same question, but Cloud says "Yeah, probably..." I'm not exactly sure why Cloud hides the truth, I guess because he values an immortal vampire as a potential teammate.
@@4-8Productions Cool !
You're welcome to use clips from our On The Way To A Smile audiobooks for these if you'd like
+TheLifestream.net Thanks! I may just do that ;)
+4-8Productions in depth look at cloud tifa and sephiroth plz
I'm surprised you didn't go in depth on what Chaos actually is and his revealed purpose in Dirge of Cerberus. Other than that love these videos I just binged them all for the second time!
Most Importantly Cowboy Beebop!
i was surprised he didn't mention being the voice of Spike.
@@pforgottonsoul DATS DEE JOKE
Also Wolverine.
Bruh, Steve Blum is Spike Spiegel. Respect.
Yeah, how did Metal Kabuterimon get a plug, but not Spike Spiegel? Cowboy Bebop is way more awesome than Digimon.
blakwargreymon!
Also Wolverine.
Guilmon!!
Don’t forget his performance as Green Goblin in Spectacular Spider-Man.
Wasn't FF7 originally planned to be about New York detectives? Missed an opportunity to tie that into that aspect of Vincent's origins, but nevertheless really nice video.
You forgot spike spiegel, probably the most famous of his voices.
Also Wolverine.
A few minor corrections:
1- You only need a Green chocobo to get to Lucrecia's cave
2- You don't have to wait till disk 3 for your second visit, you can do it in disk 2, just do 3 to 10 battles after the first visit and then come back to get the final weapon and the limit.
:-)
Love this character so much..
Thank you 4-8 Production for bringing this up
Tom and Vincent sharing the same VA is pretty neat. Never knew that before.
There's a theory that Lucrecia did in fact sleep with Vincent whilst seeing Hojo, therefore Vincent could be Sephiroth's father, not Hojo.
There is none, for fucks sake
You could say that
It's mostly headcanon. I think fodder for it is their appearances and when you take Vincent with you to fight Hojo in Midgar when he says he's going to give power to his son Vincent immediately goes "...!" which is probably taken out of context.
I think this theory comes mostly from the fact that it’s very hard for many to believe that Hojo managed to have sex with anyone, which is still one of the greatest mysteries of FFVII
Steve Blum is the man.
Please do Reno or Rude, or even Elena! :D
Kiki Hyuga Hello Kiki! That is a great idea, I'll keep it in mind. If you want to see it for sure, just hop on over to our patreon page (link in the description) where you can support the show and get your own video request!
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Sweetness, I shall do so :D
Kiki Hyuga Thanks! If you do sign up for the video request I'll be sure to send you tons of love in the video ;)
These are pretty damn cool to waste time on. I wish I was more wealthy so I could give you guys more than enough to make 4-8 your full time jobs. But alas, I can't even afford my own cigarettes right now. But you guys are kick ass.
May you stop smoking. Anyways, those videos are cool alright! Also, even a dollar a month already helps the creator, so why not?
Super late but great video! I absolutely love Vincent, such a great character.
sorry I have an obsession with Vincent. I am still trying to find information on what Vincent has become.
very nice video, bro. I like the whole presentation about my favourtie character
For what it granted you, a death summon, an ultimate limit, AND an optional character, I feel Lost Number should have been an even more challenging fight than it already was.
I want one on yuffie and tifa, and explain why the HELL tifa is so freind zoned,
p.s. I LOVE you videos! its about time some one went and explained all of this stuff.
NIce vid :) although you forgot hes also the voice of Spike Spiegal from Cowboy bebop. Wolverine in various Marvel shows and films. And Mugen from Samurai Champloo
Love this channel, but I'd really like to see more of these "In-depth look at". Just rewatched them after a couple years and I think it's a really comprehensive series and I'd watch them about any and every character in the ff7 world.
There will be more! I've been too busy with Twitch and being a new father, but I will be making more soon I promise. Thanks for the support!
Oh shit dawg, congrats! Going to buy some merch or something to help out.
Will you redo this video with your better production value and script writing your modern videos have?
i find it funny this video popped up for me around halloween time. its october 12 at 3am and tomorrow is actually friday the 13th lol, even if this video is pretty old. vincent has always been my favorite character though, because i find his past so interesting, and i like how overdramatic and brooding he always is haha.. also he's just really cool. i find it hilarious he's more surprised about transforming into monsters than other people are, like other people expect it from him just cause he's kinda weird lol. i really like his voice from steve blum but im excited to hear how he'll be voiced in rebirth.. and ive never considered the glass of red liquid might have been blood even though ive always LOVED the "vincent is a vampire" joke. i think on one of my playthroughs i named him "lestat" haha, same playthrough i named red xiii "neopets" xD
Pleas look at Cait Sith! Btw, great job on Vincent. He's probably my favorite character in the game.
He's the worst.
To you, Mattrick. You might not care for vince, but.. You do not get to tell others what they should think of them. Your choice is yours, not others.
When did I tell someone what to think of them and take away their choice to like him? That's right, I never did.
MattrickBT Thats your opinion
*IN-DEPTH REQUEST = RENO & RUDE OF THE TURKS!!*
You had me all melancholy with the entire video until the METALKABUTERIMOOOOOOON part xD
11:22 WHOA, Steve Blum voiced "Aerith" from God of War? OUTSTANDING.
Vincent Valentine! I think he's my most likable Emo Guy of all time!!!! Hates everything's , only has time to hate his nightmares & he can also lived forever, so has even more time to go hate his nightmares night & day, when he dies in his game, he says: "Now I Can Finally Sleep!" :( hmm..
I Think It Was: "Now I Can Finally....Rest...".
Same difference, Vincent does say other things when he dies you know! Beside Dirge of Cerberus seems to be the only thing I would rather play on the PS2 these day next to Final Fantasy 12!!
Now if I can just get a HD converter for the PS2 that would allow it to convert even further to HDMI LEVEL some say it can be done!!! Owning a PS2 these days can be a real pain, my TV ONLY HAS HDMI but it is in a Suitcase that I can take it anywhere even to McDonald's to Download & play games or movies at same time, it's handy at times!! They should Remasters those two games for PS3 or PS4!!! Other then that they are just old games at this point....... that nobody ever plays in this day & age! :/
You forgot to add best wolverine voice actor
He also played Wolverine most recent animated iterations
perfect video... i loved it!! vincent was aways my favorite character...
I mean, I get why Tom is the most important mention, but how are we gonna ignore Orochimaru?? Lmao
VINCENT IS TOM. .... MIND BLOWN.
Auroran Flash What.....
Please make a video about Zack. I believe it is worth shedding light to his backstory and relation to Cloud, Sephiroth and Aeris.
I would like to see stuff like that different dialogue and scythe wielding that's why I think they should do a ff7-2 and 3
Maybe one about Reno as well because so many Reno roleplayers have mentioned how some players have only seen Advent Children and thus think Reno as some comedy relief - which is annoying to those who know that in FF7 Reno ranked high in the hierarchy of the Turks, if I remember correctly Reno was the second choice for the Head of Turks if something should happen to Tseng.
Oh oh oh, and I would like to see one of Rufus! Please, please, please.
I notice you use Barret, cloud and red a lot. This was always my go to party section long before I understood the game mechanics.
Dirge of Cerberus - Lucrecia: "I'm sorry".
What do the words of a 'father to his son' do in the mouth of a 'woman to her lover'?
What if Lucrecia is in fact Hojo and Vincent is in fact Sephiroth? Rather that the memories of these people inhabit these bodies?...
That would be a Chaotic situation for sure !
I didn't know the VC for Vincent in advent children and other stuff was also Tom from Toonami. Bruh dude has an impressive reputation I'd say.
Nice Video. I love Vincent, he is a great character ^^
Vincent really has an interesting story of his past.
I just thought of some fan fiction... - Is terra, Vincent's wife, because she was found in a cave, and harnessed for energy, ie, considered an esper in final fantasy three. There seems to be a similarity, or possibly something else... There were a few Espers trapped in crystals. Perhaps teh crystals converted the human into or combined into an esper, What if all the Final Fantasies history are actually a reverse history, and thus the first one is the present one. lol.. Not all stories could cross over.. or could they.
Well vincent is NOT a vampire NOR a human
BUT A MANPIRE!
If ya would - Do Nanaki / Red XIII or Yuffie Kisaragi or heck even Cloud Strife since his side of FFVII can be a little confusing for some people.
Naoko I have a secret....Red XIII is next. If you want to see those other characters though please head over to the Patreon page and consider supporting us so we can keep making videos!
Ok. I see why people want his Original voice actor back. And I can agree. Is it because God of War is my first PlayStation game? Honestly. Doing that will be good if Santa Monica Wants to do a Remake of God of War 1 with new voice acting.
Could you do a video about JENOVA? Calamity from the Skies, Shin-Ra HQ, Nimbleheim, and then the various forms (Birth, Life, Death, Absolute). And also the Clones.
Matthew Hyman Sure! I'll add it to the list. If you'd like to see it now, head over to our Patreon page where you can help support the show and get your own video request!
Never... Ever... EVER take Vincent into the battle with the Materia Keeper. I learned that the hard way back in the day. -_-
Why not?
@@jet100a Materia Keeper is the first boss after getting Vincent, provided you get him as soon as you can. Materia Keeper absorbs fire attacks, so if you use Vincent's Limit Break, he has a 50/50 shot of healing the boss for a huge chunk by casting a high-damage fire spell. I also discovered this the hard way. Had to have my other characters kill Vincent so he'd stop healing the boss.
@@matthewgorton1747 wow, that sucks
@@matthewgorton1747 Just played through that part two days ago. I learned my lesson beforehand when I faced off fire-typed Great Dragons before the boss fight. Took a while to finish off my first encounter because Vincent's Limit Break kept healing it -.-
Still kept him in my party during the fight with the Materia Keeper though, and did fine. Just made sure not to hit his Limit Break and instead casted regular & magic attacks.
You forgot to mention what Vincent and his transformations kinda look like Dante from Devil May Cry series.
Dante look like Vincent my friend. 😊👍
@@taciolothar3794 well....
Hate to admit it, but you might be right. Just might.
After all, VII came out in 1997, while DMC appeared in 2001.
The characters are not really linked, but do have striking simmilarities.
Wow 8 years later and I'm watching this video on a Friday the 13th in 2023. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Anyone else notice at the end when sephiroth is controlling everyone and making them float. He’s actually not able to control Vincent. Pay attention. Comment if you noticed
I swear to god, Vincent listens to My Chemical Romance religiously and Cloud listens to Backstreet Boys
Haha
I am now going to answer "do you listen to MCR?" With "ah, my religion!"
So Aerith and Sephirth are half-siblings then?
Is it just me, or does Vincent's theme "The Nightmare Begins" sound a lot like some of the music from the first Diablo?
I thought he was gonna be an edgy vampire boy, which he kinda is, but they did that stereotype a lot of justice. Kind of reminds me of Alucard from Hellsing ultimate in a weird way
also fuck it im signing up to patreon
Thank you so much for the support! ;)
Dude, I'm always a fan of you FF vids :) I would love to hear what your top 10 things to do with Final Fantasy are :) Like top 10 bosses, your favourite Materia and or Materia combinations, the top most useful characters in FF7 in your opinion, your favourite weapon for the characters, things like that! I think you should do videos based on your favourite things of Final Fantasy 7 and other FF's if possible. I'd also like to see an In-Depth look on Red Xiii :)
Riku's Road to Dawn Thanks! I appreciate your support! I'd love to do a video about my favorite things sometime, but I have to do all of the other requests I've gotten before I do that. The fans come first!
Yeah of course I understand you're busy :) but when you get the chance, I'm sure all the fans would enjoy it as much as me :) and thanks for replying!
Riku's Road to Dawn I think they would too, it's a great idea! And you're welcome ;)
I think the Vincent as vampire thing is meant to be open ended. Vampires were human once in most vampire stories, and are sometimes portrayed as the results of twisted science. Also, at least in his chaos form, Vincent has fangs. It's also suggested that Rosa the Crimson is similar in that sense, having a potentially literal thirst for blood.
Yay vincent
Am I the only here who doesn't have any sympathy for Lucrecia? In fact, I have negative sympathy for her, below the factor of 0.
-S = Negative Sympathy.
Me too, for a scientist the bitch was quite stupid. Hojo too is a stupid moron to be a really relevant scientist, besides being a shit villain.
How the hell did I understand how to get Vincent when I was 7 years old and didn't know english...
Just a thought... Would it be invigorating or would it not if the FF7 Remake Vincent had more limit breaks in this version? The same he has now and couple other ones to make it a bit more keen.
So, is Vincent potentially stronger than Cloud and Seph?
Albel the Wicked brah, Vincent/Chaos twarted all of them. He is the destroyer of worlds after all.
If only Sephiroth is more like Vincent's son *chuckles*
Great video! I love your FF7 content.
These vids are so cool, keep up the great work!
Steve also voice spike spiegel duhh
your video are great this video should get more thank 50k
Advent Children is two years after FF7.
I love this edgy boy I can't wait for him in the remake
One of the most tragic characters in gaming history if you ask me. And certainly one of the coolest!
came for vincent... left with tom... aint even mad
I just got Vincent
instant sub, this is amazing, you must do more ahha , i would love to see a reeve/cait sith thing explained, while not my fav character, it would still be amazing to nail it down
Vicent: i hád a long list of regret
seems like this series is just vii but if i could get one from a different entry in the franchise it’d be auron from x. what’s with the arm. what’s in the jug. beenso long since i played through x they probably do touch up more on his character tho. and there’s not really other source material to gather information from except a very brief role in kingdom hearts 2 i guess
if he is in the remake i would definitely play as him once i acquire him