This was one of the best episodes you guys have done, thanks in part to the guest! Jack was really articulate and introspective in a way that made the comparison between the three bikes really enjoyable, but also useful to us viewers!
If I walked into a bike dealership that had “Look but don’t touch” signs on almost every bike, I’d turn round and walk straight back out. I would almost go to the level of saying that these videos are misleading and misrepresenting what the public can do at these dealerships.
I typically feel the same whenever walking into a shop and seeing those, but nine times out of ten the salesmen outright tell me something along the lines of "feel free to swing a leg over whatever you want". I think it's mostly just to keep dumbasses from scuffing up the merch.
@@FuzedBox there's a dealer near me that has a 'let us know' policy for this reason. a few years ago they had an entire row of bikes topple over because someone was a doofus, dropped a bike and the dominoes went down.
It is annoying, but I have seen it myself at Donnington when somebody who maybe doesn’t know how to handle a bike dropped it against another one. luckily they didn’t domino but they are tightly packed so always a risk
That makes zero sense as how the hell can you pick a bike if you can't test it out,for that reason I would never go there for a bike,good series though so no biggie.
I believe it's because they are so tightly compacted and they don't want anyone to touch the bikes as they have had a few domino affects mishaps in the past with people trying to get a bike out themselves
If you go and show interest in a bike then you can fiddle with it. They just don't want any old randomer coming in off the street and interfering with everything. That was my own experience anyway.
Format suggestion: Let the guest pick the third bike and present why he picked it. I've watched a few episodes and I have to say... Scrap the staff suggestions, they do not seem to listen to the guest's requirements.
@@horsepoofer He said he was getting rid of his KTM due to reliability issues and the husqvarna has a KTM engine. That aside, I also remember on another video a guy specifically mentioning that he did not want a sportsbike and the staff suggested a kawasaki H2. I pay attention, words mean things.
This guy likes all bikes, but really hasn’t yet found one to love. Right in his price range is the new-ish Moto Guzzi V100. Sports tourer. Exactly what he wants and a bike to love and enjoy.
Glad you’re enjoying my them. Just one more episode in this series then we’ll be plotting the next lot! All thoughts and suggestions for the format and style are welcome.
@@bennettsbikesocialI'd love a series of revisited, go and see the people that featured, and see what they bought in the end, and what they make of them?
Another first class episode. I liked all three choices but was secretly hoping for a more leftfield choice, maybe a Bonneville 1200cc, to take the buyer out of his comfort zone. Essential viewing every week.
I like what he said about not enough time to acclimatise to the 4/3 cylinder options. My Honda dealer gave me a bike for the weekend. I think they knew something. I definitely needed the extra time. I bought the bike. A switch from punchy twin to CB1100. It's a joy.
I had a bad experience with superbikes in Macclesfield, sale went through, and delivered, only one key, no history and no record of service which they did which they said they did carry out. A month in it either started misfiring or would fail to start! Technicians at BMW found a problem with the coil pack, one of them was snapped and held together with electrical tape, and there was a slight leak under the tank. All sorted now and running as should, I also did get a major service for peace of mind. Bike did only have 4000miles.
I had a good look at the bikes in Milton Keynes. 75% were in poor condition in my opinion. That's just from what I could see. They sell cheapish so they spend little I reckon.
Dont think I would buy a machine from Superbike Factory - they carry a lot of old tatty bikes and the labels showing what finance you can achieve with good or bad credit history I find incredibly insulting.
I´m hearing more and more negatives about SuperBike factory. I bought my first big bike (Harley) from Macclesfield branch back in 2021. Went for that 30 months extended warranty with third party company (WMS) for extra 300 pounds. In the shop the bike either had no neutral light or you couldn´t actually put it in neutral and they said they will sort it out. On pick up day, it was sorted and I had no issue , except for leaky fork after about 2-3months. Had it fixed and WMS reimbursed me about 90% of the cost. Not sure about the the cause, maybe just sitting a lot? (bike was 3 years old with only 2700 miles), so a lot of sitting and not riding. When I went to see the bike and paid my deposit they let me sit on it and start it up (they didnt know how), but no test ride, which at the time I would probably be too scared to go for anyway ( just got my licence), but I think you should be allowed to test ride the bike that you are buying. I´m not trying to say they are great, perhaps I was just lucky? But I would expect a lot of bad bikes considering the amount they have, they buy all used bikes from all sort of riders. I I dont think I will be buying my next bike from them, unless really out of choice and options and they simply hit 10/10 on my list.
Great episode again, Jack was very informative about his test rides which was great. I think maybe to have thrown an MT10sp in the mix would have been good 👍
Test rode a 2024 zx6r and cbr600rr yesterday back to back. Got to say both were amazing but I loved the zx6r! The engine is so fun and flexible. Going to put a deposit on one soon!
The 2024 MT-09 is amazing. It's the first I've ever tried with that engine but it was much better than I was expecting from the reputation of the previous iterations. Just a super smooth, polished, and complete bike for the price. I think I sort of want one now. 😅
Great episode as always. The coffee vending machine part cracked me up. I thought Michael going to mention the over the budget James Bond edition Tiger when Jack was talking about he kind of expected one.
Well that's a large swath Jack has left us with. My first thought is a used MT-09 SP, less horsepower and torque than the KTM but should be more reliable. From everything I've heard its still a great bike to ride. Also, I'm sure there is some throw over luggage to be had for his road trips. Second thought was a 2nd gen VMAX don't think I need to say more here. Lastly, and it's a bit of unicorn bike here in the States and I'm not sure about availability in the U.K. and Europe but I think the Yamaha MT-01 might also suit Jack. I assume he likes the attention he gets riding that orange missile down the road and that will certainly continue with either the VMAX or the MT-01. Until Simon showed him the Tracer I got the impression Jack wasn't that interested in a sport tourer. For a sport touring option I don't think Jack could beat the FJR 1300. Just realized all my suggestions are from Yamaha, well he did say her wanted reliability lol! I left off the ADV's as I fell they are too big for his daily commute.
The only extra thing you don't have to pay for with KTM /Husqvarna is poor reliability. Everyone knows that, but buyers are still surprised when it happens. 😎😎
Sidestand rusted to hell, aux lights potentially not working and a clutch issue. Sounds like the PDI guy needs to be sacked! Why are you doing this at SBF when they categorically don't allow test rides?
I bought an RSV4 from them and had a total farce of a time, within a mile red engine light so I wanted to return the bike on the day of delivery based on that I was refused a refund for weeks and told that I have to accept the bike. Well I stood my ground and they'd already sold my ZX6 from trade in within the time they were arguing so I lost money on that too. Absolute joke of a company and non compliant with their legal requirements.
I love this show--when I see a new episode pop up, it's like opening the mailbox and finding a letter from a friend. For the next iteration, I would love to see Michael and Simon ride along with the guest, and swap bikes round-robin, with just a wee bit more discussion on the roadside, although this could have the consequence of Simon and Michael trashing each other's picks even more 🤣. One more idea is for the guest to pick the first bike, and then the hosts use their knowledge and experience to make recommendations of other bikes that might be even better. Although I have to say, the mystery picks are fun, and I find the current format really entertaining. Thanks guys for making an awesome channel and please keep it coming. If Jack is reading, my unsolicited mystery pick is the Suzuki Katana.
Thanks very much for that, it's a suggestion that we'll certainly consider if/when series three is filmed! Glad you're enjoying them so far. Cheers, Michael
I was actually thinking a bike i just got, a Moto Guzzi V85TT. In no particular order of importance: 1 downsizing 2 cruise control 3 traction control, abs & ride modes 4 shaft drive 5 very comfortable (great factory seat & rider position 6 very unique 7 huge fun factor 8 great mpg and fuel capacity 10 reliable It can do anything. With a short windshield, you'd swear you were on a cruiser. It can tour, do some offroad, and it's also great fun in the corners. It feels stable, and that engine loves to rev. It's a great all-rounder that is more like a scrambler, IMO. I love mine!
So the Yammy Tracer was unrideable until Hargreaves adjusted the clutch! That says a lot about the quality control in that particular 'Factory'. Do they also farm out the warranties to a company that knows SFA about bikes?
Try a Kawasaki SX ninja put some bar risers on it , I’m 67 years old and ride an SX 1000 had it from new , that’s the only thing it needs is risers I struggle but I’ve health issues
Give you a heads up about superbike factory. Their used bikes come in and are not touched in terms of servicing or repairs prior to sale. They come in, they park them up and they sell them, that is the business model. I know this because i once asked for a test ride and was told because they dont service or repair them and only sell, they dont riks letting someone out on the bikes incase there is a mechanical issue that may lead to injury in which the company would be liable. Furthermore, a friend sold a bike to the company some months ago. They send out someone to go over the bike and provide a value. During the inspection they missed a crack in the engine. The bike was later on the shop floor for sale. These are facts
Great episode. There's something fundamental about the Tracer 900/9's design where it buffets tall-ish riders. I'm 6"3 and found that issue with it, tried a short screen, tall screen, nothing really worked.
How can they let that Tracer 9 out for a test ride looking like that. The engine bars were scuffed and had rust all over them on the front offside, the side stand spring was solid rust and only one of the front spot lights was working.
Lool so we're not going to mention Jack fighting the Coffee machine in the background 😂😂😂 Also 750 miles on that tracer and did you see the state of that kickstand and spring core blimey
wow must say i really enjoyed that discussion and perspective comparing those bikes and especially those different engine types !! i own a 2022 Husky 901 with 14000(22500km's) happy miles on it now , best bike ive ever had or ridden for how i use a bike
@@subzero-ku2wx 14000miles on so far so good🤞🤞 , i am well aware of the possible issue , impossible to find accurate info on it though , how many bikes are actually effected ? nobody knows , whats the cause ? nope , any preventative mod or measures possible ? nope !
Re: Jack buying a CBF1000...Does Honda still make it?? Or did he mean a CB1000R? The CBF was a sports tourer, circa 2006 to 2018 . It would be a signifocantly older bike than what he looked at in the episode, where everything presented to Jack was very modern.
I just changed jobs and planing to commute year round, so the 07' CBF is to protect the KTM from commute abuse until I figure out next steps ☺️ planning to test the new MT-09 SP ASAP following Simons review.
Nice vlog…from the off, I was saying an MT. I’d have thrown him on an MT10 knowing he wouldn’t want to get off it. Nice chatting with you today Simon @ BSD performance.
I am always one to recommend a speed triple for naked/street bike 😎. 26,000 miles on my 2012 R. The triple is the best of all worlds for me (on a sport bike).
Like the Suzuki??? you're meaning the V-strom & SV 650's aren't you? Yes, it's a comparatively old engine and its weight, to me reflects that in the V-strom 650. but I came close to getting an SV650, and a friend actually just did. there's something about them that still appeals, even if when sitting next to a very recently designed bike, it looks Dated! His comments about the leg position on the Suzuki... This is why I went for the V-strom DL250SX over the tiny little GSX250, but on that, I found that the wings on the tank trapped my knees and prevented me from being able to move my feet, which felt like they were in a Kneeling position... I took the practical part of my licence on one of these, and I have to say, while I passed it easily, it wasn't easy to ride, I have a great deal more control over the bigger & heavier V-strom than I did the GSX, and leg position plays a major part in that!!
In my mind the Suzi hits the brief best. But if you aren’t comfortable at the legs I get it. I went through a similar process and I’m a happy owner of a Kawasaki Ninja SX. I was looking at the Suzi very closely as well when after doing my research these became my finalist. Kawasaki on paper just hit my brief better in nearly every way. The Suzi definitely won the fun factor with the engine, but that’s where the wins stopped.
Interesting concept of video. This is the first one I watched. Good job. Should’ve pushed him onto a multistrada. Then at the end your mentioned your sponsor and that got me fired up, I live in USA Idaho, I’ve called and emailed metzeler several times I really want to try these new tires, but they say they’r not available, not released yet. I find the guy on the other end of the phone,,,,impossible and programmed. Thanks
Very similar to what I would be looking for. I would have included the Tiger 900GT and Ninja 1000sx. He was already turned off on KTM for quality so I don’t think he would have ever gone for the Husky.
Could be doing the same for ME? I doubt it... I live in New Zealand, I chose an insurer that has roadside assistance for free (kind of, it pushes the premium up a touch, but totally worth it if I ever need it) But hey, when I get to upgrade my license, I'll be able to upgrade beyond 660cc and 47hp. (at the Moment it's a V-strom DL250SX, which lacks top end grunt... I guess I got used to it way too quickly. but I can't exactly complain about the 84-100mpg's) and if you ever decide to do an episode outside of the UK...
@@kbarnbrook4993 No test rides on offer, plenty of old nails amongst the shiny bikes. Many local dealers have told me they end up fixing issues with bikes from there.
That's one of the things I absolutely love about mine - I normally ride it around town with a short sport screen and the bags removed, it's like an awesome, taller standard. Then when I want to go further, I just throw those bits back on. Perfect bike for me.
If only the show was 2 hours long and we had more than a day to film the entire thing! Nevertheless, some good options for Jack to take a look at. He reads these comments afterall.
My ideas ahead of watching the episode Yamaha MT09SP Triumph Street Triple 765R / RS Honda Africa Twin (wild card choice since he mentioned adventure as a possibility and wants it reliable start first time)
As a Swede I must say that the Husqvarna 901 has got nothing to do with Sweden and the old great Huskys, it is a low quality KTM in different dressing. And as this nice guy understands, you don´t want to own a KTM without warranty.
Yes a great bike that always slips under the radar. For a 5'9 short arse like me it would have been a better choice than my 1250 GS but just wasn't aware of it. I'm 63 but having a growth spurt so should be 6'3 by Christmas so I'll keep the GS.
Interesting choices but 765 Triumph and 1050 Tiger Sport if in stock would have been better than the Yam and Suzi. Left of field, the bmw 1200 rs (sporty boxer) . Keep up the good work
I love your show. You are both so warm and engaging. I wish I could participate as I am agonizing about a new bike but I live in Spain. I thought you might have suggested a Ducati Superspoor this particular episode. Again, great episode and an excellent and informative series. Well done.
There is No better option than the Tracer for this Gentleman's needs. No, I do not have Owners bias. I have a GS and commute on it and it's brilliant of course, But Zinging it, which you can, feels a bit like ragging a Range rover, The Tracer however Makes you feel like It would be rude not to....
Must agree the cp3 is a belter but it does require sensitivity on the throttle at 3 to 4k,not when opening the taps but when you are coming off throttle,it's a fly in ointment but still the triple isca peach.
I immediately thought of the latest MT09 SP.. supremely reliable, bags of fun and looks great. The screen on the Tracer 9 gt is pretty awful. imho the z1000sx is a better machine than the Suzuki.
Would never buy a bike from SBF,I was looking at a Fireblade from them a few years ago,from the Front and rear plus the righthand side looked mint.However it definitely bad been dropped on the lefthand side,plastic damage,bent peg...yet they still wanted top money!.
@@MikeTheBike58 How can any firm charge to 'service' each bike before delivery, when you have dozens of different makes & models on the showroom floor? The sheer cost of all the different parts (plugs, filters, pads, chains, lubricants) makes it a commercial non-starter, let alone offer the skill level required to put, say, a Diavel, a Fireblade or a Speed Triple through the workshop. SBF's workshop is open to view, so where are all the boxes of parts on the shelf and the factory tools neded on the wall? I've never seen them. So a basic safety check is probably all that's happened, which means your purchase is reliant on the previous owner's maintenance routine. Think I'll pass on that one.
I find you don't create much visibility for other road user's with the Yamaha GT poxy small headlight. I personally couldn't live with the Groucho Mark's dash.
Great wstch. Would be interesting to see someone who has just passed their test choosing. How big how fast, from a 125 to what nowadays? More please. Ride safe 👍
We have a 125cc episode coming next but if you know of anyone who’d like to apply that fits your criteria then do ask them to email us! I enjoy having different riders with different reasons/budgets being with us. Cheers, Michael
I'd like to see a born again biker coming back to riding after a long break. They'd be interesting because they'd have many years of knowledge but likely be apprehensive about too much power and/or weight. Also their priorities might be unorthodox, mpg and tank size, saddle comfort, aversion to plastics, size of dealer network could all impact the purchasing decision.
I've got a Tracer 9GT. Cracking engine, turns in nicely. But....awful screen, twitchy, unforgiving throttle, poor seat and very poor build quality mean that I'm looking to replace it after 9.5k miles.
Another great video For me. 3rd is the suzuki. Its just a blatant copy of the z1000sx and its not as good as the kwak. 2nd. Husqvarna but id go for road version and sister bike ktm 1st. Bias cos i have one but the teacer all day. But my initial thoughts with his budget was the mt09 shame he couldnt wait for one
This was one of the best episodes you guys have done, thanks in part to the guest!
Jack was really articulate and introspective in a way that made the comparison between the three bikes really enjoyable, but also useful to us viewers!
Agreed! We really enjoyed making this episode too. Jack was a real pleasure to have on the show.
Thanks for the lovely comment. Cheers, Michael
I concur good sir, one of the better if not best episode! great stuff
If I walked into a bike dealership that had “Look but don’t touch” signs on almost every bike, I’d turn round and walk straight back out. I would almost go to the level of saying that these videos are misleading and misrepresenting what the public can do at these dealerships.
For a channel that prides themselves on consumer advice it is utterly ludicrous that they support SBF.
I typically feel the same whenever walking into a shop and seeing those, but nine times out of ten the salesmen outright tell me something along the lines of "feel free to swing a leg over whatever you want".
I think it's mostly just to keep dumbasses from scuffing up the merch.
@@FuzedBox there's a dealer near me that has a 'let us know' policy for this reason. a few years ago they had an entire row of bikes topple over because someone was a doofus, dropped a bike and the dominoes went down.
It is annoying, but I have seen it myself at Donnington when somebody who maybe doesn’t know how to handle a bike dropped it against another one. luckily they didn’t domino but they are tightly packed so always a risk
Am I the only one who gets a little frustrated with the "look but don't touch" signs on the bikes?
Yep, and no test rides. Been there once and wouldn't go back based on that.
That makes zero sense as how the hell can you pick a bike if you can't test it out,for that reason I would never go there for a bike,good series though so no biggie.
I believe it's because they are so tightly compacted and they don't want anyone to touch the bikes as they have had a few domino affects mishaps in the past with people trying to get a bike out themselves
If you go and show interest in a bike then you can fiddle with it. They just don't want any old randomer coming in off the street and interfering with everything. That was my own experience anyway.
One reason I'd never spend any money with SBF.
Format suggestion: Let the guest pick the third bike and present why he picked it. I've watched a few episodes and I have to say... Scrap the staff suggestions, they do not seem to listen to the guest's requirements.
That's a good idea!
Duon't know where you are getting that from, the guy literally says the husky suits him beautifully in this video.
@@horsepoofer He said he was getting rid of his KTM due to reliability issues and the husqvarna has a KTM engine. That aside, I also remember on another video a guy specifically mentioning that he did not want a sportsbike and the staff suggested a kawasaki H2. I pay attention, words mean things.
I think that's a great idea. Let the guest walk around and choose something themselves to compare.
That must be the best of these you’ve done. Really enjoyed, Jack was very engaged and articulate about what he felt on each bike, great episode.
This guy likes all bikes, but really hasn’t yet found one to love. Right in his price range is the new-ish Moto Guzzi V100. Sports tourer. Exactly what he wants and a bike to love and enjoy.
I look forward to these episodes. It really is a great format and interesting to see so many bikes. Thank you.
Glad you’re enjoying my them. Just one more episode in this series then we’ll be plotting the next lot!
All thoughts and suggestions for the format and style are welcome.
I really like it too!
@@bennettsbikesocialI'd love a series of revisited, go and see the people that featured, and see what they bought in the end, and what they make of them?
Another first class episode. I liked all three choices but was secretly hoping for a more leftfield choice, maybe a Bonneville 1200cc, to take the buyer out of his comfort zone. Essential viewing every week.
Every episode this series gets better and more enjoyable. Great job
I love this show lol. House hunters for bikes
I was thinking at the begining of the video... he needs a Gen 3 MT09SP!!!
Good choice 👍
I like what he said about not enough time to acclimatise to the 4/3 cylinder options. My Honda dealer gave me a bike for the weekend. I think they knew something. I definitely needed the extra time. I bought the bike. A switch from punchy twin to CB1100. It's a joy.
Been looking at the CB1100 for some time now, do you have the RS version?
I have the rs version. It's peachey. Love it! We have a couple of reviews of it on our channel
@@landzw mine is the EX. I like the neutral steering geometry. I softened the fork preload by 1 notch and it turns in a bit better for it.
T-9GP was spot on. Maybe a Triumph Scram 1200 or Speed Twin. Another great show guys thanks. I reallyenjoy these.
Z1000SX would have been an option. Do like the Suzuki GSX1000GT
I had a bad experience with superbikes in Macclesfield, sale went through, and delivered, only one key, no history and no record of service which they did which they said they did carry out. A month in it either started misfiring or would fail to start! Technicians at BMW found a problem with the coil pack, one of them was snapped and held together with electrical tape, and there was a slight leak under the tank. All sorted now and running as should, I also did get a major service for peace of mind. Bike did only have 4000miles.
Not the first story I have heard aggressive marketing like this puts them in limelight
I had a good look at the bikes in Milton Keynes. 75% were in poor condition in my opinion. That's just from what I could see. They sell cheapish so they spend little I reckon.
Dont think I would buy a machine from Superbike Factory - they carry a lot of old tatty bikes and the labels showing what finance you can achieve with good or bad credit history I find incredibly insulting.
I´m hearing more and more negatives about SuperBike factory. I bought my first big bike (Harley) from Macclesfield branch back in 2021. Went for that 30 months extended warranty with third party company (WMS) for extra 300 pounds. In the shop the bike either had no neutral light or you couldn´t actually put it in neutral and they said they will sort it out. On pick up day, it was sorted and I had no issue , except for leaky fork after about 2-3months. Had it fixed and WMS reimbursed me about 90% of the cost. Not sure about the the cause, maybe just sitting a lot? (bike was 3 years old with only 2700 miles), so a lot of sitting and not riding.
When I went to see the bike and paid my deposit they let me sit on it and start it up (they didnt know how), but no test ride, which at the time I would probably be too scared to go for anyway ( just got my licence), but I think you should be allowed to test ride the bike that you are buying.
I´m not trying to say they are great, perhaps I was just lucky? But I would expect a lot of bad bikes considering the amount they have, they buy all used bikes from all sort of riders. I
I dont think I will be buying my next bike from them, unless really out of choice and options and they simply hit 10/10 on my list.
I'm surprised that comment is still up. They've all been removed on the Facebook page
Great episode again, Jack was very informative about his test rides which was great. I think maybe to have thrown an MT10sp in the mix would have been good 👍
Test rode a 2024 zx6r and cbr600rr yesterday back to back. Got to say both were amazing but I loved the zx6r! The engine is so fun and flexible. Going to put a deposit on one soon!
你是一個美麗的女人我喜歡你我們可以成為朋友嗎
The 2024 MT-09 is amazing. It's the first I've ever tried with that engine but it was much better than I was expecting from the reputation of the previous iterations. Just a super smooth, polished, and complete bike for the price. I think I sort of want one now. 😅
You know what he needs to try Moto Guzzi v100 Mandello S . This bike is gorgeous and has soul
Great shout. Jack looks at this so I’m sure he’ll be taking notes!
Cheers, Michael
I thought he asked for fun, v100 isn't much fun
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 never ridden it but it sure looks fun
@@Victor-vf1fi I only rode it back to back with the tuono v4 that I had at the time, so it all depends on the reference point, I guess
I have ridden v7 and I can tell these bikes are like addiction.
Great episode as always. The coffee vending machine part cracked me up. I thought Michael going to mention the over the budget James Bond edition Tiger when Jack was talking about he kind of expected one.
Well that's a large swath Jack has left us with. My first thought is a used MT-09 SP, less horsepower and torque than the KTM but should be more reliable. From everything I've heard its still a great bike to ride. Also, I'm sure there is some throw over luggage to be had for his road trips. Second thought was a 2nd gen VMAX don't think I need to say more here. Lastly, and it's a bit of unicorn bike here in the States and I'm not sure about availability in the U.K. and Europe but I think the Yamaha MT-01 might also suit Jack. I assume he likes the attention he gets riding that orange missile down the road and that will certainly continue with either the VMAX or the MT-01. Until Simon showed him the Tracer I got the impression Jack wasn't that interested in a sport tourer. For a sport touring option I don't think Jack could beat the FJR 1300. Just realized all my suggestions are from Yamaha, well he did say her wanted reliability lol! I left off the ADV's as I fell they are too big for his daily commute.
The only extra thing you don't have to pay for with KTM /Husqvarna is poor reliability. Everyone knows that, but buyers are still surprised when it happens. 😎😎
Sidestand rusted to hell, aux lights potentially not working and a clutch issue. Sounds like the PDI guy needs to be sacked! Why are you doing this at SBF when they categorically don't allow test rides?
They are a joke of a company. I really don’t understand how/why people use them.
I bought an RSV4 from them and had a total farce of a time, within a mile red engine light so I wanted to return the bike on the day of delivery based on that I was refused a refund for weeks and told that I have to accept the bike. Well I stood my ground and they'd already sold my ZX6 from trade in within the time they were arguing so I lost money on that too.
Absolute joke of a company and non compliant with their legal requirements.
That suzuki is brilliant value
'Porking down the King's highway like streaky bacon'?
That takes me back to the Golden years of PB.
I've still got the sticker sheet too! 😁👍
I remember those! 😂
I love this show--when I see a new episode pop up, it's like opening the mailbox and finding a letter from a friend.
For the next iteration, I would love to see Michael and Simon ride along with the guest, and swap bikes round-robin, with just a wee bit more discussion on the roadside, although this could have the consequence of Simon and Michael trashing each other's picks even more 🤣. One more idea is for the guest to pick the first bike, and then the hosts use their knowledge and experience to make recommendations of other bikes that might be even better. Although I have to say, the mystery picks are fun, and I find the current format really entertaining.
Thanks guys for making an awesome channel and please keep it coming.
If Jack is reading, my unsolicited mystery pick is the Suzuki Katana.
Thanks very much for that, it's a suggestion that we'll certainly consider if/when series three is filmed! Glad you're enjoying them so far.
Cheers, Michael
I was actually thinking a bike i just got, a Moto Guzzi V85TT.
In no particular order of importance:
1 downsizing
2 cruise control
3 traction control, abs & ride modes
4 shaft drive
5 very comfortable (great factory seat & rider position
6 very unique
7 huge fun factor
8 great mpg and fuel capacity
10 reliable
It can do anything. With a short windshield, you'd swear you were on a cruiser. It can tour, do some offroad, and it's also great fun in the corners. It feels stable, and that engine loves to rev. It's a great all-rounder that is more like a scrambler, IMO. I love mine!
So the Yammy Tracer was unrideable until Hargreaves adjusted the clutch! That says a lot about the quality control in that particular 'Factory'. Do they also farm out the warranties to a company that knows SFA about bikes?
Not a very good advert for the PDI guys job capability either!
These are getting better all the time, keep up the good work!
These videos are some of my favourite ever, more please 😊😊😊
Try a Kawasaki SX ninja put some bar risers on it , I’m 67 years old and ride an SX 1000 had it from new , that’s the only thing it needs is risers I struggle but I’ve health issues
Jack the Gentleman. Good episode chaps.
Lovely chap to talk to, very eloquent too on and off camera.
Give you a heads up about superbike factory. Their used bikes come in and are not touched in terms of servicing or repairs prior to sale. They come in, they park them up and they sell them, that is the business model. I know this because i once asked for a test ride and was told because they dont service or repair them and only sell, they dont riks letting someone out on the bikes incase there is a mechanical issue that may lead to injury in which the company would be liable. Furthermore, a friend sold a bike to the company some months ago. They send out someone to go over the bike and provide a value. During the inspection they missed a crack in the engine. The bike was later on the shop floor for sale. These are facts
Great episode. There's something fundamental about the Tracer 900/9's design where it buffets tall-ish riders. I'm 6"3 and found that issue with it, tried a short screen, tall screen, nothing really worked.
I have the 2022 model I have a problem with handlebars vibrating do you have the same problem cheers
@@elvisthewart670 I found it fine for vibration. Sold it and have an MT10 now.
This guy needs a 2 bike garage
He doesn’t trust the reliability of the ktm. Husqvarna……..is ktm
But known to have chocolate camshafts that might last 11000 miles.
@@Snoozzzzzze You'll be lucky to get that on some bikes. Owners have been told that they're dead after only doing 4k miles!
Simon hit the post there, nice selection of bikes
Wow, with 12k I could find a 'fun commuter" for every day of the week 😂
How can they let that Tracer 9 out for a test ride looking like that. The engine bars were scuffed and had rust all over them on the front offside, the side stand spring was solid rust and only one of the front spot lights was working.
That's the main light and on dip only one comes on.. I know cos I asked the same question when I bought mine
Lool so we're not going to mention Jack fighting the Coffee machine in the background 😂😂😂
Also 750 miles on that tracer and did you see the state of that kickstand and spring core blimey
@@512460 ha, glad you noticed. Did you like that bit?! 😂
@@bennettsbikesocialindeed I did. It was a laugh let's see if others catch on
Thanks guys, the "Buttery nipples" will stay in my nightmare for the next year or ten....
Haha! So sorry. Here’s the extract in full: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/suzuki/gsx-s1000gt-2021
Great variation of machines in the video ☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland like the Suzuki,,but I have a K6GSXR,,1000 and an SV 1000 , magic series,,👍
Suzuki v-strom 1050 de, as a good all year round commuter and occasional long ride. Price new/ex demo, reasonable as well
wow must say i really enjoyed that discussion and perspective comparing those bikes and especially those different engine types !! i own a 2022 Husky 901 with 14000(22500km's) happy miles on it now , best bike ive ever had or ridden for how i use a bike
@@justsomedude445 Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Strange how we ended up with a twin, triple and a four!
Cheers, Michael
@@bennettsbikesocial ive never owned anything but single and twins , was a good exchange
Check your camshafts.
@@subzero-ku2wx 14000miles on so far so good🤞🤞 , i am well aware of the possible issue , impossible to find accurate info on it though , how many bikes are actually effected ? nobody knows , whats the cause ? nope , any preventative mod or measures possible ? nope !
Re: Jack buying a CBF1000...Does Honda still make it?? Or did he mean a CB1000R? The CBF was a sports tourer, circa 2006 to 2018 . It would be a signifocantly older bike than what he looked at in the episode, where everything presented to Jack was very modern.
@@cypresscycle8326 He told me he’s “added it as a commuter”. It being the CBF.
I just changed jobs and planing to commute year round, so the 07' CBF is to protect the KTM from commute abuse until I figure out next steps ☺️ planning to test the new MT-09 SP ASAP following Simons review.
I love this format. And I also enjoy the silly rivalry between Michael and Simon. Keep it up lads
Good episode, I was thinking MT10 or BMW 1250R
Yes that cp3 is a gem
Great video. It would be great if you guys done a couple more videos on 125cc learner bikes.
Keep your eyes peeled... :-)
Nah, all boring.😅
@@ArmadilloGodzilla 😂😂😂
@@AutoGaddi zzzzzzzz 🙈🙈
Nice vlog…from the off, I was saying an MT. I’d have thrown him on an MT10 knowing he wouldn’t want to get off it. Nice chatting with you today Simon @ BSD performance.
Jack was a good guest. 👍
I am always one to recommend a speed triple for naked/street bike 😎. 26,000 miles on my 2012 R. The triple is the best of all worlds for me (on a sport bike).
The clocks on the tracer gt suck
Tracer needs a 1200 and a shaft drive before I consider parting with my FJR…
Like the Suzuki???
you're meaning the V-strom & SV 650's aren't you? Yes, it's a comparatively old engine and its weight, to me reflects that in the V-strom 650. but I came close to getting an SV650, and a friend actually just did. there's something about them that still appeals, even if when sitting next to a very recently designed bike, it looks Dated!
His comments about the leg position on the Suzuki... This is why I went for the V-strom DL250SX over the tiny little GSX250, but on that, I found that the wings on the tank trapped my knees and prevented me from being able to move my feet, which felt like they were in a Kneeling position... I took the practical part of my licence on one of these, and I have to say, while I passed it easily, it wasn't easy to ride, I have a great deal more control over the bigger & heavier V-strom than I did the GSX, and leg position plays a major part in that!!
In my mind the Suzi hits the brief best. But if you aren’t comfortable at the legs I get it. I went through a similar process and I’m a happy owner of a Kawasaki Ninja SX. I was looking at the Suzi very closely as well when after doing my research these became my finalist. Kawasaki on paper just hit my brief better in nearly every way. The Suzi definitely won the fun factor with the engine, but that’s where the wins stopped.
Interesting concept of video. This is the first one I watched. Good job. Should’ve pushed him onto a multistrada.
Then at the end your mentioned your sponsor and that got me fired up, I live in USA Idaho, I’ve called and emailed metzeler several times I really want to try these new tires, but they say they’r not available, not released yet.
I find the guy on the other end of the phone,,,,impossible and programmed. Thanks
Very similar to what I would be looking for. I would have included the Tiger 900GT and Ninja 1000sx. He was already turned off on KTM for quality so I don’t think he would have ever gone for the Husky.
What a nice guy😊
Could be doing the same for ME?
I doubt it... I live in New Zealand, I chose an insurer that has roadside assistance for free (kind of, it pushes the premium up a touch, but totally worth it if I ever need it)
But hey, when I get to upgrade my license, I'll be able to upgrade beyond 660cc and 47hp. (at the Moment it's a V-strom DL250SX, which lacks top end grunt... I guess I got used to it way too quickly. but I can't exactly complain about the 84-100mpg's)
and if you ever decide to do an episode outside of the UK...
My pick would be the ducati streetfighter v2 or street triple 765
5 minutes into the vid and I'm thinking MT-09 or MT-10 - lets see...
I decided to go to the Superbike Factory near me, but was informed there are no test rides!
Mt09 good shout.
best thing on youtube. keep them coming
Unbelievable. You got three test rides out of these charlatans!
In what way are they charlatans?
@@kbarnbrook4993superbike factory suck
@@kbarnbrook4993 No test rides on offer, plenty of old nails amongst the shiny bikes. Many local dealers have told me they end up fixing issues with bikes from there.
I would be suspicious of nearly new bike with a few hundred miles on the clock that was sold cheap to WBAB and you can’t even have a test ride.
tracer 9 with no screen feels like a big tall naked - rode mine today in the 30 degree heat.
That's one of the things I absolutely love about mine - I normally ride it around town with a short sport screen and the bags removed, it's like an awesome, taller standard. Then when I want to go further, I just throw those bits back on. Perfect bike for me.
Monster 1200S, S1000R, Diavel 1260S... So many missed opportunities 😅
If only the show was 2 hours long and we had more than a day to film the entire thing! Nevertheless, some good options for Jack to take a look at. He reads these comments afterall.
He wanted reliability so not sure Ducati is the place to go.
I’ve had 2 and won’t go back.
@@markharrison2484 post 2017 bikes are quite reliable. Being part of the Audi group has it's perks
Worried about the reliability of a 4 year old bike? Really cant tell if its modern riders or modern bikes that are the problem.
My ideas ahead of watching the episode
Yamaha MT09SP
Triumph Street Triple 765R / RS
Honda Africa Twin (wild card choice since he mentioned adventure as a possibility and wants it reliable start first time)
Good shouts. The africa twin is the best looking adv in my opinion ☺️ maybe worth a shot.
Please keep the outtakes.
As a Swede I must say that the Husqvarna 901 has got nothing to do with Sweden and the old great Huskys, it is a low quality KTM in different dressing.
And as this nice guy understands, you don´t want to own a KTM without warranty.
Thanks for the reply, I missed the point of the show 😂
With it's sporty handling, torque rich motor and underrated touring ability a BMW R1250R might be worth considering.
Yes a great bike that always slips under the radar. For a 5'9 short arse like me it would have been a better choice than my 1250 GS but just wasn't aware of it. I'm 63 but having a growth spurt so should be 6'3 by Christmas so I'll keep the GS.
@@paulyflyer8154 😅
Interesting choices but 765 Triumph and 1050 Tiger Sport if in stock would have been better than the Yam and Suzi. Left of field, the bmw 1200 rs (sporty boxer) . Keep up the good work
I love your show. You are both so warm and engaging. I wish I could participate as I am agonizing about a new bike but I live in Spain. I thought you might have suggested a Ducati Superspoor this particular episode. Again, great episode and an excellent and informative series. Well done.
@@NJLinSpain What a lovely message, thank you. Perhaps we should do an international episode in the next series…?!
Gracias, Michael
@@bennettsbikesocial That would be fun, There are definitely very different riding conditions and bike requirements down here in southern Spain.
I'd have gone Ducati Monster, plenty of fun, nice riding position and they're pretty reliable now.
Surprised the Ktm lasted 4 years!!😂😂
There is No better option than the Tracer for this Gentleman's needs. No, I do not have Owners bias. I have a GS and commute on it and it's brilliant of course, But Zinging it, which you can, feels a bit like ragging a Range rover, The Tracer however Makes you feel like It would be rude not to....
Must agree the cp3 is a belter but it does require sensitivity on the throttle at 3 to 4k,not when opening the taps but when you are coming off throttle,it's a fly in ointment but still the triple isca peach.
If he like the Norden but had worries about the reliability it sounds like he would love an Africa Twin.
Stuck between the honda NC750x or the Tracer 7
I immediately thought of the latest MT09 SP.. supremely reliable, bags of fun and looks great. The screen on the Tracer 9 gt is pretty awful. imho the z1000sx is a better machine than the Suzuki.
No one whats a cruiser. Be interesting to see when you do get someone that be interested in these. But we all know these are a small market.
@@AshTek_Biker not many riders like riding tractors! 🚜🚜
Great show!!
I love me some bike educations, but its still always a rocket 3...
All good choices but not a hope I'd swap my sdgt beastie for any of them!
Read superbike factory reviews before buying
Definitely I would not buy anything from them
@@gypsyemperor7535 @kbarnbrook4993 See, I'm not the only one!
@@gypsyemperor7535 Charlatans!
Would never buy a bike from SBF,I was looking at a Fireblade from them a few years ago,from the Front and rear plus the righthand side looked mint.However it definitely bad been dropped on the lefthand side,plastic damage,bent peg...yet they still wanted top money!.
@@MikeTheBike58 How can any firm charge to 'service' each bike before delivery, when you have dozens of different makes & models on the showroom floor? The sheer cost of all the different parts (plugs, filters, pads, chains, lubricants) makes it a commercial non-starter, let alone offer the skill level required to put, say, a Diavel, a Fireblade or a Speed Triple through the workshop. SBF's workshop is open to view, so where are all the boxes of parts on the shelf and the factory tools neded on the wall? I've never seen them. So a basic safety check is probably all that's happened, which means your purchase is reliant on the previous owner's maintenance routine. Think I'll pass on that one.
Customer service awful at superbike factory
Husqvarna 701 SM would be the one imo
I find you don't create much visibility for other road user's with the Yamaha GT poxy small headlight. I personally couldn't live with the Groucho Mark's dash.
Great wstch.
Would be interesting to see someone who has just passed their test choosing.
How big how fast, from a 125 to what nowadays?
More please.
Ride safe 👍
We have a 125cc episode coming next but if you know of anyone who’d like to apply that fits your criteria then do ask them to email us! I enjoy having different riders with different reasons/budgets being with us.
Cheers, Michael
I'd like to see a born again biker coming back to riding after a long break. They'd be interesting because they'd have many years of knowledge but likely be apprehensive about too much power and/or weight. Also their priorities might be unorthodox, mpg and tank size, saddle comfort, aversion to plastics, size of dealer network could all impact the purchasing decision.
I think you should have the guest choose a bike he or she would like to try as well. Thanks
Might be an idea for series 3, thanks for that!
Cheers, Michael
I've got a Tracer 9GT. Cracking engine, turns in nicely. But....awful screen, twitchy, unforgiving throttle, poor seat and very poor build quality mean that I'm looking to replace it after 9.5k miles.
Simon loves a Tracer 9gt 😂
For God's sake please turn down the volume on the music as it needs turned down evert time it comes on very annoying. 😮
This gent needs to try a Ducati V2 Multi...
Another great video
For me.
3rd is the suzuki. Its just a blatant copy of the z1000sx and its not as good as the kwak.
2nd.
Husqvarna but id go for road version and sister bike ktm
1st. Bias cos i have one but the teacer all day. But my initial thoughts with his budget was the mt09 shame he couldnt wait for one
Cbf1000 is a good choice... especially the second gen
Wonder what he would have thought about a BMW f900xr