The NEW DVSA HGV Test Rules 2021. Do You Agree?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- With lots of misconception circulating around the internet, i'd like to take this opportunity to discuss the new HGV Driver test rules regarding the Reversing maneuver & the Coupling & Un-Coupling of trailers.
Also touch on the new rules of not needing a test to tow a caravan.
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What gets me and still does to this day. I passed my test in 1996 so already have the grandfather rights to drive a class 3 and tow caravans etc etc. In 2006 I passed my PCV test in a manual bus at 42 foot long. Years later I've had enough of this profession and want to drive a class 2, I'm not interested in class 1 at all. So a fully laden coach weighs 18 tonnes and can be well over 40 feet long and has the most precious cargo in the world, yet I am not allowed to drive a class 2 lorry substantially shorter in length with the exact same weight. I can accept a class 1 needs a separate test this stands to reason but the class 2 gets me. Am I being unreasonable in my assumptions and If so please can somebody explain? I'm aware there's a petition already on its way to parliament but I'd like other peoples views.
Maybe its a weight thing mate an 8 wheel rigid tipper is 32ton laden, I totally agree with u mate all these tests bullshit u shld get c license with ur bus as its same
class 3 no longer excists
@@doggy55915 if that's the case and I'm not questioning what you've said, how does somebody go from a car licence to a 7.5 tonne lorry? I'm confused
@@leemcarthy4550 so am I haha.In my day you could go from a car to a class 1,2 or3 depending what you could afford. I maybe wrong but I think you could drive 7.5 on a car licence back in the day.
I totally agree with you mate. I've been driving coaches for 20yrs. My coach is 50ft long can hold upto 61 pax & weighs in around 18tons unladen. How on earth can I not be qualified to drive a class 2 hgv? For example the latest job I've just done is transporting the Indian cricket team around for 9 weeks. Fully loaded worth 100s of millions but I cant drive a class 2 with parcels or food in the back. I fully understand there should be training for strapping loads & loading the truck etc but surely not a test for over 1.5k. It's madness 😠
I would agree that the wages are fantastic now in certain company's but that wasn't the issue in the first place its the cost to take your Hgv test including theory and practical in my opinion I think that the money should be paid when you pass both tests that's my thought anyway desdy
You don’t need to take a test to tow a caravan. why??? And what’s the point for taking out reversing and coupling that’s stupid
I think the idea of the reversing and coupling test being seperate from the main test might be to ease the pressure on the day . I suppose as long as you can demonstraight over and over you can do it safely to the tutor a few days prior, it doens't need to be tested on the day .
Weren't these rules just going back to pre 1997? Were all those drivers bad and crashing all the time? Class 2 was only there to get more money. You do not need to do Class 2 to do Class 1. You don't need to go out with your Dad to have any interest in driving a HGV.
In the process of getting my class 2 licence. I want at least 1 year experience before even considering jumping in a class 1 crazy! Keep up the good work deedy top man 👍
Really? How come? Pre 99, it used to be common place to go from car to attic
you havnt done a decent test then, im 35 year class 1 only licence held
Personally doing my tests in the next month I rekon if your can do the manoeuvres in front of the instructor and do a good job, I don't see any difrence in doing it on a test tbh and if you can drive a class1 for an hour with a examiner then yh why not... saves money and time been quoted 1400 for the 1 test
Completely agree with you Deady. I'm a driving instructor and a lot of fellow instructors have had to refund a lot of trailer training bookings which has left them struggling. The same will apply to companies offering class C training. The idea is to free up examiners for C+E tests but as an ex Class C delivery driver I agree with you its asking for trouble going straight to C+E. A lot of my pupils have already said they wouldn't feel comfortable towing a trailer without additional training. Stay safe mate 👍
as a non car licence holder that went no licence to hgv 1 i done a test that required only professionals to pass, the tests of today are shit
I think going from a car to a class 1 could be to big of a jump for a lot of people. I’ve been driving a class 2 for a couple of months and have found the experience will undoubtedly help me when do my class 1 test next month. I do fear the could more accidents as well due to this change. Thanks for the video
I went from a car to class 1 had no problems.
Doing class 2 is like driving a big car it’s a rigid Vechile like a car but bigger. Class 1 is harder and the test will still decide who is suitable and who isn’t
It's all mad. The caravan thing will be fun as they will be more on the sides on the motorways in the summer. Also why he hell. Is there no MOT for a trailer as they sit all year then they just take them down the road and fall to bits. Then on to the new test it's more money for the test guys and it's 3 tests in the end as you forgot the driver CPC on top of it all which you need to keep taking. The guy that did mine was talking about how to load a truck but funny part was I did recovery work and I asked about that he said I donot know. Well why the hell am I doing it also he know sod all about the job to. And today this is the best vidio have seen for some time. And yes I agree with all you have said today and yes things would work if the next day delivery from the you can shop here company was stopped and the trucks used to move food. Also why the hell not use the shops that your shutting down in the towns as when there gone and you need something and you nets down you can not buy it. I only shop in shops as when there gone they will not be back. The way we are going town will not have shops as every one is happy to sit on the net and by that way then people say there no shops in the town there all gone we'll think the next time you go on the net to buy things. Sorry for the rant but yes I am with you on all you say. Drive safe and keep up your good work.
I think it’s absolutely crazy and the roads will become more dangerous for sure
I’ve read elsewhere that the coupling uncoupling and reversing part would be observed by the person who’s instructing you during your training, who’d certify to DVSA you were fit to sit your test ?
Yes I think your right there it's not 2 tests it's 1 test and observations by your instructor on coupling and reversing. That makes sense.
Yes I've read that 👀
Yes true
I literally passed my class 1 a week before the new rules came out for the class 1 tests. For me honestly class 2 was a massive help for me doing my class 1. Getting to know how a wagon works, the sizes etc. . When I done my assessment drive for my class 1 lessons I think I got told somewhere around 4 days training including the test, how long would a student who's only driven a car have to be given? That surely would slow down the training schools massively training all these new students who have no hgv experience whatsoever? In my eyes this wont help quicken up getting trained drivers out there it will surely slow it? Or put pressure on training schools to maybe cram as much training into a 4-5 day period as possible and hope for the best ?
Hi can you please tell me how much cost CE licence if you have class C licence
@@akjatt9112 it cost me 1255 in total for my class 1 license. I was quick lucky with my class 2 as the company I work for paid for it
Yeah roads are busier than 10 yrs ago. More bikers on the road as well...
Let's be serious here guys, the reversing on the test is a load of shit not real life at all, any hgv instructor who has something about them will of already drilled reversing into the trainee so they have some sort of idea,
You totally forgot to mention all of those Drivers such as myself that hold a Grandfather Licence, which entitles us to Drive 7.5ton (C1+C1E) and Ambulance (D1+D1E).
I have been driving 7.5ton Trucks for years on and off, doing multi Drop.
I went for my Class 2 (C) 2 years ago, so got my CPC and Tacho upto date. I found driving a Class 2 not much harder than driving a 7.5ton, as the Class 2 is slightly bigger and longer, but the same style of driving.
However I failed the Driving Test 1st time on Reverse, just because the left rear tyre touched the white line, although I drive perfectly all through the test. If the Government really wanted to ease this issue, they could just upgrade all those with a 7.5ton license and proven experience to a Class 2. And companies could also train 7.5ton Drivers upto a Class 2, then progress onto a Class 1.
But no they won't, to simple for them. They clearly have another agenda.
Maybe we should be offering jobseekers there licence, get them off the dole and get them paying tax rather than takin out of the pot in benefits
With present car driving standards after lockdown watch out 4 upswing in caravan carnage...🌹
deady i think it will be more pcv drivers that will go across to hgv rather than new drivers, they are use to driving large vehicles, so should find it easier
I'm one of them I intend to go for it. Have my theory and hazard perception test on 20th December it's the 1st available date. All going well I will do the weeks training in the new year. 🤞
What about the people how already waste money for class 2 and in queue for lesson and suddenly law changed!!!
Deady - the information i got from a trainer, was this; that whoever's training you is most likely your accessor on the reversing and coupling/uncoupling, now lets say that you are part of the HGV apprenticeship scheme; you do your test with flying colours (since its just a drive), now because the company thats training you internally has their own trainer through your apprenticeship and the company wants to start making money out of you, they pass your reversing regardless - more efficient for company capita if the delivery gets done, rather than taking extra time training which in return using that extra training time that could be used to put through another driver.
Thoughts on this?
I bet the pass rates for C+E suddenly goes up compared to before because of lenient examiners which is counter intuitive as they've had less experience.
What do you think to someone having a pcv license but not being able to drive a class 2?
As someone with both licences I personally think it's something that should be looked into.
As I said in my post above I have a former colleague with 20 years UK and continental touring experience who would love his class 2 but can't afford the training and test. Due to covid killing the coach industry when our operator closed down he could only get a job driving Asda home delivery vans for 9 quid an hour and is doing double shifts to make ends meet. I know many more guys making do on low wages doing school contracts Monday to Friday.
Those who have held a D should be granted a C with CE provisional as long as their medical and DCPC are in date IMHO.
An 18 tonne rigid is far easier to drive and manoeuvre than a 13 metre or 15 metre tri axle coach.
Well why is fair i have a pcv i can drive a bus or coach with people on but i cant drive a class 2 with one pallet on it the country is a joke
It’s all wrong Deady
Asking for trouble and total bollocks
Need atleast 3 months on a class 2 before class 1. More deaths and accidents will happen because of this.
Complete madness!! The roads are a lot busier today then they were way back when
Very good point mate
They are removing the reverse and uncouple to save 30mins of a test so it’s an hours long drive. Why don’t they keep the reverse and uncouple in and shorten the drive to 30mins then they get to see all aspects of your test. Just an idea
Possibly because it would still cause a backlog in the off road training/test area which they also use for motorcycle tests, but just doing the on road driving element they could have a thousand examiners conducting tests at the same time, maybe not a thousand 🤣🤣 you know what I’m saying
@@kevroberts4754 my test centre didn’t examine bike tests, and plus your still saving 30 mins if not more because you get 15 mins to reverse and do the uncouple and it doesn’t take that long so tests would be shorter so more tests per day and no more b+e tests
I don't understand what the issue is. You're trained firstly in a c2 for an x amount of hours so you can get used to the whole aspect of driving one, when your instructor thinks you're competent he will then proceed to train you on the c1...whilst also "training" you how to reverse and the other bits, once he thinks you're competent you take your drive with DVSA to certify you... You then choose you can work within the c1 or c2 sector, you've been trained and certified on both, hardly someone "stepping from a car to a lorry" without any further instructions. They're hardly going to certify you if you're shite and can't drive a c1.
Evening
Just watched your vid
I had recently decided to move into hgv industry and upon contacting a driver training school i was gob smacked when i enquired about class 2, i was encouraged to go straight into obtaining my class 1 and although I've driven large lwb vehicles for nearly 25 years i could not believe i was being encouraged to go straight to class 1 without any real class 2 experience and that's from an experienced instructor, very worrying indeed.
They should never have changed the driving license laws from before 1997. Because back you could drive the C1, C1+E, D1, D1+E and B+E on your normal license. Then they changed the law 1st January where as you have to do the test for the above which in my opinion was the thing they ever did, because I've tried to apply for some jobs but I had to have C1 and C1+E and never got the jobs I didn't have the license to do it. If I had my C1 license I could get the experience and go for my class 2, I can't even do that yet someone Who passed before 1997 can and I find it abit discriminating tbh. Keep on with the crazy Vids Gareth 👍
Believe it or not but I know a person who was in the fishing industry, he wasn't even a skipper but took the occasional charge of the helm. He went from that to piloting the IOW ferry which is a HUUUGE jump in size. If you get training and pass there is no issue with sudden jump in size. No need for gradual increments. I also passed my motorcycle test in 87. I went from a 100cc to 750 👍👍
So you take your motorcycle test and then have to wait 2 years before you can go up to a bigger bike, but wait we can go from taking your test in a mini then jump to an artic! What?? No logic at all. Surly making the test a 50/50 split with the testing centres would be better? Force the industry to have 50% of all tests class 1 and 2. That would ensure the more experienced drivers would be moved up. Yes let’s have more drivers. But seriously let’s get the right drivers in the right trucks. There are already too many accidents. That class 2 experience is essential. Yes I’m a Hgv driver. Deady thank you!
I am a little confused about the rule changes tbf. They are now stating from January 22 you will only need to do Cat C+E, not both C and C+E practical tests. I have checked and this doesn't need HoC vote to go through, so I don't understand why it isn't coming in till January. I am currently going through my tests and I will NOT drive a C+E without driving a C first......NUTS
As someone who has class2 and an expired CPC I struggle to understand why I should go back to driving... What is the motivation for it now?
This country needs to reconsider it's approach to life and priorities on a huge scale but all I see are people crying about Brexit wanting their slave labour back from Eastern Europe to pack their goods, drive their trucks and clean their toilets all the while under paying and over working them. The attitude is "I don't care as long as it's done and it's not costing me money". How many drivers hours are wasted sat around waiting to be loaded.... Thousands per company every single week.
I don't see how this is going to ease the driver shortage at all because the new passes are going to be perceived as far less qualified than those of us already with CE licences. Who will give them a start? There are still firms out there wanting 6 months, 12 months, or 2 years experience.
I passed my CE in 2012 and after driving coaches all over Britain and Europe since 1990 and nobody would even give me an interview never mind a start. I carried on coach driving until August this year when my operator closed down and I was redundant. I started applying for jobs and was honest that I had a licence but hadn't used it. Guess what? Not a single reply. I live in Northamptonshire where the shortage is very apparent. I started this week on rigids doing store deliveries for a supermarket, I'll be getting in house CE training in the new year.
The reverse exercise wasn't fit for purpose anyway, bears no relation to real world reversing onto bays etc.
What would make sense would have been to scrap the C test for anyone who has held a class D for over 2 years and grant them a C with a CE provisional providing their medical and DCPC are up to date. Covid has decimated the coach industry and has put a lot of experienced drivers out of work, most rigids are shorter than a coach, these guys could easily adapt.
A former colleague of mine desperately wants his C but can't afford it, he's got 20 years coach experience but is now driving Asda vans for 9 quid an hour and doing double shifts to make ends meet.
These new measures won't help the driver shortage, the only result is going to be less safe roads at least in the short term.
Used to be able to go for your Class1 straight from car up until 1996 cos I did but failed this was back in 1995 so when in 2000 I had to do my Class2 which I passed 2’nd time round and been driving ever since .Then I did my class1 again in 2016 but not used it but definitely class2 helped and agree Deady that should be the way it is this new system is bollox
There is a huge mix of factors in between. In today's world truck drivers are deemed uneducated , uncivilised kind of person.
A stigma for a job that's worthy of all the pride.
I am a HGV driver myself and i'm very proud of it. Always will be. And any of you who's already a truck driver or aspiring trucker never listen to bad words around you.
Drive safe everybody
I think the best and most productive thing the government could do, is do away with the C1 test and again let everyone who has passed their car test to drive up to 7.5 ton light haulage small lorries. This is where people used to get a foot into HGV driving and gain experience within the haulage/HGV logistics, which I think is a must do allowing the necessary learning on light lorries then after a minimum of 1 year they should be allowed to go for class 1. The class 1 test price should be lowered and more accessible to more people……..then there’s the pay, facilities and hours…….
Passed my test pre 95, automatically entitled to tow caravans and drive a 7.5t. Never been an issue driving either, for me or for the millions and millions of drivers prior. Mountain molehill.
However the third party reversing test is just ludicrous. Makes zero Sense. It won't get a driver on the road quicker.
So I'm not going to touch on everything as for the most part i completely agree with what you said. However I think there should be some special circumstances in which you can jump strait to class 1. I've been driving busses for the last few years which are longer than a class 2 and can be around the same weight also but I'd have to go sit my class 2 and then class 1 which to me personally makes no sense. Someone in my shoes should be able to jump strait to class 1. Also agree with you in terms of the money. I cant afford the 2k+ for my class 2 then class 1 but this change means I can afford to jump strait to class 1. I don't think the actual test however should have been changed as you said with the reversing and un-cuppling to me personally think their the main things that should be tested🤣 anyways loving the vids keep it up deady😘👊
The other issue is training centers will have mostly class 2 units and only a couple of class 1 units for training so will be difficult to train and use the units for tests so how will they be able to uptake more tests?
Not sure how much extra danger there would be just to only undertake 1 test you can do class 2 then go straight back no extra experience and undertake class 1 test anyway. It has always been a case of training is what you take away.
We have yet to fine out how the cookie will croumble revers and couple/uncouple will be.
No training for towing up 3.5 Ton trailer will end in tears.
Before 1997 you could not have had a driving licence and just done car class 1 in 1 go with 1 test was known as LL other than that with a B car licence you got towing and 7.5Ton.
Trailers for cars without a test - no! Straight to Class 1 - not sure but I think it could be a wrong idea. Coupling/uncoupling and reversing tested by a third party - could be done by a third party during training if they get their act together. Like most tests, tutors only teach you to pass a test. Do all loading bays look like the reversing area in the test centre i.e. a flat area of concrete with a load of squashed cones? I think not! I always have the story of the young lad who`s tipper ran out of control going down into Bath. He had been driving HGVs for barely a week when the truck ran away and several pedestrians were killed. It transpired the brakes were in very poor condition and the company had the book thrown at them. The driver didn`t have the skill to control the truck but was given an absolute discharge.
Hello mate you are right I’m 43 been around hgv lorry all my life as my dad was a driver I’ve got my class two and had it since 2005 I really really what my class one but struggling to save up as got a young kids. Why don’t they look at class two drivers and fast track them I’m not saying not to do a test but at least they have the experience of a larger lorry like the grandad rights. I asked someone if you put me and a 18 year old in a class one witch one would know more about what to do and this person said I would not put a class two driver in a class one that’s asking for trable thank you for your time mate
many people cant save money or get finance to pay the £2 k
the way round it could be for new drivers that havent learnt to reverse etcis to just drive for suppliers to rdc and the shunter may have tp put the trailer on the bay etc
youtube truckers are a great help to new hgv drivers etc
youtube truckers should make coupling and uncoupling and reversing vlogs etc
One of the reason I think people don’t want to be Hgv drivers is because they come on here looking to get info from Truck vloggers and all they hear is negatively as avid truck vlog watcher I barely watch any more as it’s just full of these vloggers twisting about the Industry I past two years ago and it’s took all this time for to get job that wasn’t few day here I pull for Amazon now and I know what your saying with food should be priority but some people order food from Amazon and will we see you pull for Asda or Tesco soon or you gonna stick with your cushy number at Hermes lol no ones gonna leave cushy little job like Amazon and Hermes and go pull for Tesco or Asda and have to load/unload and trying reverse in to tight spaces from road side for similar pay
The module 3 test is the driving test for the class c and d test.
The module 3 is split into 3a and 3b.
3a consists of the reversing manoeuvre and the coupling and uncoupling and is assessed by approved dvsa authorised assessors. 3a takes place off road so in a private land so out of the way of the public.
The 3b is the practical on the road test but can only be taken if you pass 3a. If you don’t pass 3a even if booked on you can’t do your training for 3b and you also need to have 3a test certificate to take your 3b test.
The coupling and uncoupling is straight forward but the reverse is tricky for new drivers and even experienced lgv drivers as articulated Vechile steer from the 5th wheel. If you don’t pass the 3a part you can’t do 3b.
Absolutely craziness deady I just don’t get it. I heard that the reversing and coupling and uncoupling will be down to the 3rd party which is the company who takes on that driver and they will assess them. Crazy crazy crazy. x
With cars, they have missed the chance to retest car drivers who have not otherwise had another test since the day they passed 1st time around.
And, I failed the C1 twice on the reverse, time I passed did it in one go no shunts. Paid my own tests/training.
Its a backwards reasoning ... and putting money over safety, or just forgetting safety total.
Reversing is the hardest bit, and does need probably more assessment than going forwards. And doing it under DVLA test conditions, all on the day.
Car drivers could always tow a caravan as long as they did not exceed 3.5t combined weight or not exceeding 80% of the weight of the vehicle. so removing the test is not as bad as it sound as I think it is just going up to 4.2t combined (correct if I am wrong) as going straight for the class one I am well up for that as I am looking to get it myself. Its Going to save me some wedge, that I am struggling to save. But I am hoping that I get a few lessons in a class 2 during trianing just incase I need to drive one.
Stupid move, had my psv license 30 years, going for my hgv 2 license now, do not won’t to go straight to hgv 1. Used to tow a caravan but have never had to take a test, it’s going backwards. Can’t get my theory test until. November so there sill going to be a back log and Shortage of drivers
Deady i have looked into how some people pay for the training and tests that cant afford it and found that there is a few options available.....1 is gov funding and the other is by doing an apprenticeship.....Car driver into a class 1? No,get some experience in a rigid first to learn the ropes...as for cars pulling a wobblebox without a test? its just nuts,alot wont have the foggiest idea on how weight is placed in 1 of these things....
fuck me what next , any one with up to 7.5 rights will automatically be given the right to drive a class 2 ffs
I think the third party will be your school. And if so it’s dangerous due if it’s done buy you school there is pressure for the school to pass you to keep the pass rate above 80%. The changes have been made by people who have 0 clue. And it is only going to end in tears 😭.
So doesn't this mean that two tests are now just one long expensive one putting off a lot of people who cant afford it. When I passed my test all I drove was 12 tonners for a while and had to drive an 18 tonner and struggled for abit as it was harder to see when reversing. Plus what company in their right mind would take on a newly passed class 1 driver with no class 2 experience?
Just because you’re entitled to do something doesn’t mean you should do it! Pass your test in a class 1, training providers have class 2 vehicles so for the less confident people or people who want to learn how to drive a class 2 vehicle can go to a training provider whether they have passed class 1 or not, transport companies have their own driving assessors so they could show new starters how to use whichever vehicle they will be driving as for cars and trailers anyone who has held the category for 3 years and has experience can sit with a newly qualified driver or even train them up to pass their test, if you’re a responsible person you will get the training you feel you need by going to these training providers and asking, after all you were going to pay them to train you up to test standard anyway, now you can still do the training and get some experience without the test, when my kids pass their driving tests I’m competent and confident enough to show them how to tow a trailer, this could be a nice little earner for us class 1 drivers in our spare time helping friends/family tow a trailer or caravan. Dvsa have had a massive recruitment drive for new examiners to cover additional tests I’d imagine training providers will also take on more driver trainers because of the increase too.
I took my Class 1 test about 2 months ago, and unfortunately failed after going over the kerb on a tight corner. I was confident and aced my reverse and coupling procedure! After that, I didn’t wanna pay upwards of £400 to do it again, and now they’re changing the rules like this, what a joke! 😂
Here's one for you deady I'm a bus driver in Nottingham and IV heard that bus drivers are going to get class 2 automatically don't know how true it is but that's what IV been told
Its another revised way off making money..for the hgv industry and insurance co..to push out small companies...you bhatti boyy
Hi ya deady I like your opinion but I personally think the thing is a bit of a joke at the moment I am driving a 18t lorry doing pallet delivery I’m in Norfolk and deliver to some tight places in rural areas and town centres and to hand keys to an inexperienced driver is risky and dangerous I hope to god no one looses their lives over this and the government better be prepared for the finger point at them changing the rules
Re the shortage Dvla aren't helping with their backlogs , surely processing a straightforward licence application wouldn't take much training so get some temp staff in to clear the back log . Another thing re the shortage... drivers waiting hours to be loaded / unloaded etc, thats just adding to the problem, warehouses etc, sort your act out
I don't think the rule change has been thought through and would guess when the system fails it will cause more back log the current shortage could be forseen years ago older drivers retired not enough new drivers coming through simple as that in my opinion
Has if officially been decided that you only have to take the class 1 test now? No need for class 2 first?
its on the government website confirmed, just awaiting a release date for it to come into effect
Another thing... that reversing exercise on the test , the reverse s into a bay.... that's a load of rubbish, you get told what to line up with etc , its mega easy you can't get it wrong , I listened to my instructor listened to all the pointers and got it right first time and every time . However put me in a real life situation and ill be nowhere near that good
Iv been waiting for a retest for class 2 for over two months and finally got booked in for a retest for class 2 but is it worth waiting for the rules to change and save myself £619 on the retest because only doing class 2 to get my class 1
Hi I have heard off a few training schools they will do it over 10 days .3 days in class 2 and 6 days in class 1 before test .and have heard dvsa examiners are going on strike because of this
Has this new rule come into affect already ive been on the gov site and it says they won't be a decision till at least December time im due to take my class 2 in November i just don't know what's going on
They should of just left the test standards the same but lowered the prices. 90% of people I speak to really want to get into the industry but just can’t raise the funds to get the licenses.
Not sure ppl have said already but what happens to people how already has class 2 and wont to go class 1 will have have to pay full price for a class 1 test when they saying you don't need to do class 2 or they gona let class 2 just do the reverse and uncoupling to go to class 1?
they are making the couple and reverse at the training companies to save time on tests its all just to get more tests done in a day for more chance of more passes and less time used to train car and trailer tests, im more worried that the towing a trailer with a car without training tbh i have never hooked a caravan to a car imagine if i didnt connect it right BANG im waiting for a caravan rolling down the motorway
It's completely stupid
I rang the training company that I originally booked in my class 2 with this last Monday to see if they had any info on these changes, they had no idea about when the changes are supposed to be coming in and how it’s supposed to work. All they could say was I’d be trained over 6 days, with class 2 driving for the first 2 days and then class 1 for the rest, instead of just 4 days and it will be 8hrs a day of training instead of 4hours. I’m just waiting for them to get back to me. They also said that they were having to find and purchase a couple more class 1 units.
Over the moon right now just been aceepted funding to get My hgv licence thro.ugh universa Credit can't wait
hello deady it's been a long road but i have finally saved up enough money to do my c+e it will cost me 3k but will lsoon be on the road with you.
I am still looking to do the class 2 first I think I need an adjustment period before driving the artics
Reversing and coupling manoeuvres is the hard part which turn off people from driving hgv so government is making it easier for new drivers to get into trucking
When will the hgv class 1 direct access rule begin? My test centre doesn't know yet apparently.
Of course I agree it’s ridiculously hard to get a hgv license at the moment ,
Towing a caravan is a piss of piss
when i past my test in 1985 you could go for your class one ..bout you had to be 21 years old so nothing new
When does this new rule start
id find it hard to believe companies would take class1 drivers on who just drove a car
theres going to be way more accidents in hgv's if there just gonna let any numpty drive an hgv.
I don’t understand to much please tell so We have no need to pass class 2 .?? We can go directly to class 1 please tell me
Than
im taking my test mid October and tbf im not even sure what ive gotta learn lol as in a class 2 or a 1 im like giz a clue what im doing
but you can drive a tractor with a trailer when you are 17 but you could not drive a 7.5ton so the law is messed up
People can go straight from a car to a bus and buses carry people the most precious corgo in the world
I'm 18 about to do my class 2, wanna do that for a few years atleast before I do class 1.
Good man Deady👍☠️☠️👍keep on TRUCKINGGOOD
Good points/rant Deady. On the reverse/un coupling etc you would logically think the training school would be able to sign you off on that thus making another test redundant.
I had the biggest twin wheel caravan & it was about 1800 kilo
Well said mate. They have done too little for too long and now it's bitten them in the arse.
I wonder, someone as myself who had to pay for, learn and pass the practical/theory for class 2 then the same for class 1, then spend 2 years struggling to get Rigid work and working in agency's to build up my experience and spending time behind the wheel making mistakes and learning the hard way before I felt comfortable driving an artic and now I'm reaping the benefits of my sacrifice/investment if I'm entitled to be reimbursed for my training/tests I paid for years ago when now there's no legal need?
Why? You paid for them because you wanted to, hardly anyone put a knife to your throat and made you do it. Typical "freebies" approach lad.
Is it possible to earn £500 after tax doing a Monday to Friday
a friend of mine had no license passed his class one to get his car license and has never looked back
Hi Deady, been watching you last few days, cracking vids pal. I'm hoping to get into the industry and I think the reversing & Coupling excersize should be on the one test unless your tutor can asess you. Keep up the good work pal
I passed my tractor test at 16 , I then brought a dolly( fifth wheel) hooked up to a 40ft artic and away I go . madness.
Trailer, which I pulled by an artic
Whole these bus drivers and dole claimers after free licences..get real.
Hi mate so thay changing it do that mean thay dont have to do the theory test and hazard text ..
Fantastic news making the test more available for people
The way I see it is
Drivers go to training center
Training centers take new drivers out for a week in a class 2 to utilize their fleet and enable learners to practice gears, size and braking
Then when happy with student progress to a class 1 with same school
The test center could then asses couple and uncouple also reversing of the class 1 in the same way my CPC was assessed by a licensed trainer at my school
So it would still take about 2 weeks, and cost about the same in time and money but 1/2 the DVLA testers workload
Probably not the best idea ever in my opinion BUT 🤷♂️
I'm about to start my training next month.... And I can honestly say I feel I will loose out on training... I think its absolute bollocks... I don't really want to learn to drive c+e then get thrown in a rigid with no experience in one... How the fuck is that even a thing....seriously though... If anyone can recommend a decent school in the manchester/Stockport or Cheshire area with decent detailed tuition would be greatly appreciated 🤟