act 1 marvin: bully, horrible bf, just wants whizzer to be his plaything, not to mention he literally slapped trina act 2: CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT but at like 75% cause he cant take back that slap >:(
I get so frustrated with Martin videos. I think he's incredibly misunderstood. I'm not saying he made the best decisions especially in act 1. But I don't think he's the villain everybody thinks he is. Everyone seems to gloss over the bad behavior of the others that partially contributed to their problems. Trina can be incredibly childish at times and intractable. Mendel acted very unprofessionally in regards to Trina. And Whizzer was the worst influence in Martin's life. Because of who I married, I see a lot of red flags in Whizzer's behavior towards Martin. Whizzer has to "win" at the relationship and that means being in control. He gives the bare minimum in love to Martin while demanding more. He implies that Martin is only good enough for him to use for sex and money; but not good enough to love. Martin craves love. And Whizzer withholds it. Whizzer is incredibly manipulative in act one. When someone is as insecure as Marvin is and is denied a need he craves he becomes fixated on what he's not getting and becomes angry. Even a people please can become petty and full of rage under those circumstances. And Martin doesn't have the support system he needs to recognize what's going on (and yes that's largely due to poor decisions he's made all through act 1). He's out of control and doesn't realize it. And because no one is addressing his need, he won't listen to their opinions. The Trina slap was his wake up call. That's when we see who Marvin really is. He's horrified. He finally stops and listens to those around him for the first time. And he lets them go. From then on he's a much better person. And Whizzer obviously realizes when he's been kicked out what his part was. He says it in his "Games I Play" song. Once both parties realized they had issues and most likely worked on themselves a bit, they came back together in a nuch more healthy way. And look how unselfish Martin and Whizzer's love were for each other in Act 2. My point is that Marvin isn't the monster everyone thinks he is. I very much understand and love Martin.
So because I posted a two minute compilation of Marvin being shitty, that somehow means I don't acknowledge the flaws of any of the other characters? this video is just meant to be silly and really isn't the place for ur essay friend Also.... Painting Marvin as the villain isn't okay because he's misunderstood, but painting whizzer as the villain makes SO much more sense?
@@hex0578 I'm not attacking your videos specifically Hex. Just putting forth an alternate viewpoint than is almost always put out there. Almost everyone loves whizzer and goes after Martin. Every character in this show is flawed.i just wanted to stand up for Martin with this comment. And pointing out Whizzer's flaws isn't attacking him. Whizzer needed to lose something important to wake up as well. His change is more subtle snd I don't think people really see it as clearly as Martin's. But it's just as powerful. Both whizzer and Martin were better partners for eachother in the end. You just see so many comment, videos, and reactions out there trashing Martin, that I just wanted to throw out a different perspective. Your video is not the problem. I've spoken with you before and I know you love the show. It just happened to be the video that I posted on. Please don't think I was attacking you personally.
i agree w so many of ur points. whizzer gets so much mischaracterization and everyone loves him and adores him and skims past his actions. i dont like “defending” act 1 marvin (even though he is undeniably my favorite character) but everyone was flawed in act 1 and it wasn’t just marvin who did terrible things. especially since in “in trousers” we get implications that marvin’s parents had neglected him, which could be a cause for his self-absorbed behavior. not saying its an excuse at all, he is a terrible and abusive person in act 1, but it *could* be an explanation for his self-obsessed behavior. personally i dont think this video was exactly saying that marvin is the only bad one. he has the worst actions and that’s may what this person could’ve meant. but yes, people treat whizzer like their “little angel” and as if he did nothing wrong, same with the other characters.
When Whizzer goes to say “yes” after “isn’t this wonderful” but Marvin CUTS HIM OFF-
OH MY GOD YES THE WAY HE LIKE. TRIES TO PUT HIS HANDS ON MARVIN TO REASSURE HIM BUT MARVIN SMACKS HIM AWAY OMFG
my sole purpose in life is to ruthlessly bully act 1 marvin and this is fueling me
As you should 😏 act 1 Marvin deserves it
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
treat wife shitty cuz you want to be with a man, then when you're with that man treat him exactly like your wife? 10/10 logic Marvin great job
Sometimes, I imagine that instead of Marvin slapping Trina, I am the one slapping Marvin
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Ugh the dream
thanks 4 the idea
Whizzer and Trina did deserve better which is why Trina ended up with Mendel and Whizzer got act 2 Marvin
we love act 2 Marvin, he treats Whizzer so much better than act 1 marvin, I',m glad Whizzer got a new bf for a bit :)
There's one (1) thing I like about act one Marvin, and that's that he set up a good character arc bc there was so much growing up for him to do.
I agree! Have you listened to the Falsettoland workshop? It's got a lot of cut songs that show a lot more of marvins development, I highly recommend
@@hex0578 No I haven't, thanks for the tip!
@@hex0578 where can we find that?
@@crystalcat3877 just search it up on RUclips! There's only audio unfortunately
Ah I love act 1 Marvin slander😌
The fact that I adore Christian so much and I HATE Act 1 Marvin SO MUCH says how amazing he is
act 1 marvin: bully, horrible bf, just wants whizzer to be his plaything, not to mention he literally slapped trina
act 2: CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT but at like 75% cause he cant take back that slap >:(
i was listening to the kazoo version of falsettos, and then you post this at midnight
Bye not the kazoo covers gkdngkdmc
ah yes, literally all I watch is just Falsettos content
I still love Marvin ❤ he’s my favourite
Same
Best character
ITS BACK
Marvin (mentally) grew up the most. Jason (physically) grew up the least, ironic isn’t it?
I love and hate act 1 marvin
I get so frustrated with Martin videos. I think he's incredibly misunderstood. I'm not saying he made the best decisions especially in act 1. But I don't think he's the villain everybody thinks he is. Everyone seems to gloss over the bad behavior of the others that partially contributed to their problems. Trina can be incredibly childish at times and intractable. Mendel acted very unprofessionally in regards to Trina. And Whizzer was the worst influence in Martin's life. Because of who I married, I see a lot of red flags in Whizzer's behavior towards Martin. Whizzer has to "win" at the relationship and that means being in control. He gives the bare minimum in love to Martin while demanding more. He implies that Martin is only good enough for him to use for sex and money; but not good enough to love. Martin craves love. And Whizzer withholds it. Whizzer is incredibly manipulative in act one. When someone is as insecure as Marvin is and is denied a need he craves he becomes fixated on what he's not getting and becomes angry. Even a people please can become petty and full of rage under those circumstances. And Martin doesn't have the support system he needs to recognize what's going on (and yes that's largely due to poor decisions he's made all through act 1). He's out of control and doesn't realize it. And because no one is addressing his need, he won't listen to their opinions. The Trina slap was his wake up call. That's when we see who Marvin really is. He's horrified. He finally stops and listens to those around him for the first time. And he lets them go. From then on he's a much better person. And Whizzer obviously realizes when he's been kicked out what his part was. He says it in his "Games I Play" song. Once both parties realized they had issues and most likely worked on themselves a bit, they came back together in a nuch more healthy way. And look how unselfish Martin and Whizzer's love were for each other in Act 2. My point is that Marvin isn't the monster everyone thinks he is. I very much understand and love Martin.
So because I posted a two minute compilation of Marvin being shitty, that somehow means I don't acknowledge the flaws of any of the other characters? this video is just meant to be silly and really isn't the place for ur essay friend
Also.... Painting Marvin as the villain isn't okay because he's misunderstood, but painting whizzer as the villain makes SO much more sense?
@@hex0578 I'm not attacking your videos specifically Hex. Just putting forth an alternate viewpoint than is almost always put out there. Almost everyone loves whizzer and goes after Martin. Every character in this show is flawed.i just wanted to stand up for Martin with this comment. And pointing out Whizzer's flaws isn't attacking him. Whizzer needed to lose something important to wake up as well. His change is more subtle snd I don't think people really see it as clearly as Martin's. But it's just as powerful. Both whizzer and Martin were better partners for eachother in the end. You just see so many comment, videos, and reactions out there trashing Martin, that I just wanted to throw out a different perspective. Your video is not the problem. I've spoken with you before and I know you love the show. It just happened to be the video that I posted on. Please don't think I was attacking you personally.
i agree w so many of ur points. whizzer gets so much mischaracterization and everyone loves him and adores him and skims past his actions. i dont like “defending” act 1 marvin (even though he is undeniably my favorite character) but everyone was flawed in act 1 and it wasn’t just marvin who did terrible things. especially since in “in trousers” we get implications that marvin’s parents had neglected him, which could be a cause for his self-absorbed behavior. not saying its an excuse at all, he is a terrible and abusive person in act 1, but it *could* be an explanation for his self-obsessed behavior.
personally i dont think this video was exactly saying that marvin is the only bad one. he has the worst actions and that’s may what this person could’ve meant. but yes, people treat whizzer like their “little angel” and as if he did nothing wrong, same with the other characters.
Alright so we’ve agreed that everyone sucks except jason and the lesbians ☺️
Marvin* 🤓 sorry I had too 😅 (guessing auto correct made it into Martin)
is this a safe space. if so, can I say how uncontrollably attracted I am to act 1 Marvin?
he is pathetic and problematic and that is hot i think
I feel this on an unhealthy level