I concur with other posts. Have the bloomin' title IN HAND before selling, period. If you "can't find it", file the paperwork and get it all straight, then WAIT until the new title comes in the mail, THEN put it up for sale. It's not hard, it just takes time.
Agreed. I sell a lot of cars and everyone asks if I have a title. In Indiana its in fact illegal to sell a car without a title. But done daily. But if I list it I have a title or its in the listing clearly. And thats only for parts or woods toys.
exactly, order the title, you will have it in 2 weeks, then post it for sale. I wish for sale sites required any vehicle sold without a title be listed as scrap only for scrap price. Would cut down some on scammers .
Titles are pretty easy to sort out IF you're dealing with the last person that had it was officially titled in their name. In this case absolutely not. It's doable but a lot of time and effort. This guy is just flipping and stretching the truth anyway he can. That sleeper is held on with drywall screws, that TIRE, always pass on a gas engine if someone has the air filter taken off as it will not get you home with the carb problems, etc.......
Great video and good call to pass. Consider looking for an old diesel powered fire truck as a platform for your shop truck. Remove the body, add a junk yard flat bed and you might have a better start for the same$$. Those old ford cabovers sure are nice.
The Shop used to have one of those, we installed a 3-53 Detroit and a 4speed with 2 speed rear axle. Sounded fantastic and was great for picking up cylinder heads and blocks, cranks, etc.
Those trucks are so awesome, some of the most beautiful old trucks in history. A vehicle without an engine has more value than a vehicle without a title.
I believe you made the correct choice... you drove away from this rats nest of problems! Too many problems as has previously been stated by your followers! I'm sure there's probably the absolutely right truck out there (with a diesel) that's needing your operation to be its new home! Discretion is the better part of valor! I don't comment often, but I really enjoy your channel, thanks for sharing!
RED flag #1 - No title RED flag #2 - Wife can't get it but he can RED flag #3 - It's for sale, but he still didn't get the title RED flag #4 - Won't stay running RED flag #5 - Sidewall of the steer tire down to the cords There are lots of other trucks that you can find to re-do into a work truck...without all the B.S.!!
O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸Happy New Year…2024! The old Ford C model cabovers were great trucks! I drove a 65 C800 & loved it. It had the 391 5&2 speed. It has several bad spots that are prone to rust out, but that one looked pretty decent. It must’ve been a fire truck previously. I loved the sleeper, but whoever put it on sure didn’t know what they were doing! It’s a shame that he didn’t have the title issue worked out. I noticed that the cab seemed to raise up easily, so the cab springs aren’t worn out. Hope that you get that truck. I’m interested in the sleeper. Keep us posted on this truck. Blessings.🥰😎✌️
I drove these back in the 1960's for a U.S. mail contractor who had a fleet of these along with Ford OTR tractors for sectional mail centers logistics. The C's were great in the cities with high visibility and shorter turning radius. However they were not a very comfortable trucks after a few hours. The seat angle was always a problem to adjust. I was never crazy about getting in and out of them either. If one had a big belly it would rub against the steering wheel. Glad you passed on this because of the title problem. One needs to be suspect of anyone trying to sell a vehicle without the proper paperwork. I think this seller was looking for a farmer who would never take it out on the road and just forget about the title.
I had an 84 model I think it was. Ran like a champ. Absolutely no rust on it. My main reason for selling it was it was geared really low and didn't go much over 60.
You made the right call on this one. I reckon the real killer is the title and the asking price. In the UK, the registration document is NOT proof of vehicle ownership. It is so the police have the name of somebody to go after if any offences have ben committed.
I drove a 1971 C600 with a Ft391 engine from Sacamento to Merced and back every night for years., the air brake system was a welcome improvement over the hydraulic with vacuum assist brakes.
Red White and Bethune on RUclips have a busted radiator and are looking for a hand. Told them they should reach out to you guys so bought I would mention the same to you about them. Love when RUclips’s are able to help each other.
Hey, thanks for this. A couple of years back, there was a c600 race hauler for sale up in VA with a large box with a dove tail, the cab had a coffin sleeper with a vintage split AC. I was 6 months out from being flush enough to pick it up and am still kicking myself.
On hearing that phrase I thought "Tyler's going for his keys". I don't know about the USA but my guess, based on what it's like over here, is that getting the title for a vehicle is fairly easy if you are the legitimate owner, but otherwise sliding down a stair rail with lots of rusty nails sticking out is more pleasurable.
FWIW I think you guys made the right call, guys. It has potential but I am always uncomfortable when I discover that what I have been told isn't what I really find when I arrive and start looking at a vehicle for sale. You will find the right one for you if he doesn't come around on the price. That tire...and the split rim...no way would I have wanted to be seated directly on top of that on the run home!
I’ve run into no title excuses before, some very elaborate, but in every case I walked away. There’s no good reason to put up a vehicle for sale without a clear title. My last car purchase the seller offered to let me drive away while she paid off the lien on the car I was looking at. I told her to call me when she had the title in hand. She actually did a month later and the deal was done.
I have an 85 C700 with the 500ci Detroit Diesel (4 stroke) only has 80k on it, it was a PGE truck, just aged out of service and sat on a farm for many years. I planned to make it electric/hybrid motorhome. In california you can't run a pre 2005 diesel anymore unless its a motorhome, so I got a vermont motorhome registeration/plate for it, so its legal. Only paid $500 for it, towing it was another $300..I'm just now replacing the clutch hydraulics (all rusted) and new front tires and hope to drive it to the new storage location. If interested in it, let me know, don't know if I will ever get to it these days.
That sleeper is there because that is where he lives. His wife kicked him to the curb and he owes her money. That is why she has the title and not him. That truck would have had to have been idled all the way to your place. You did the right thing. Smile, say Thanks and walk away.
Loved those old Ford C series cabovers. They were around forever from when I was a kid (got a toy one for Christmas once around 1960) until I was pushing 40. I hope you find one of these. But whatever you find, I am looking forward to your build. FYI - I always like the looks of the 56 GMCs. I think the 600 series could be had with 4 and 6-71s if you get lucky. 😉 You were right to pass on this dog.
RUN!!! Do not hide. Do NOT pass Go! Just RUN! I bet it is geared for about 3500 rpm at 60 mph. Would need a new diff. You would need a 100 gal gas tank just to get to town and back. Automatic tranny. No 2 speed axle? Not enough torque to haul 10 tires and wheels back from the tire shop. Or for your driveway. Let alone the hills in your area. 4-53 would maybe able to get to up to a reasonable speed but it really needs more gears than that tranny likely has available. That truck always had light loads. No current title? RRRRRUUUUUUUUNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A buddy of mine buys them old fords just like that from fire departments all around. He’s bought one with a 429 with less than 80 k miles on it. He’s bought several with caterpillars in them. Check ur local fire departments. A lot times they set them up and sell them cheaper have a nice Ford f450 with a mechanic bed Runs good drives good. Does have a 6.0 but it’s had some of the upgrades. I think my brother said he’s take 5k for it. Only problem we are in central la
Fix Or Repair Daily or Found On Road Dead! My stepfather had a '59 with a race car body on it back in the 70's. Did not like to idle. Keep it tached & it could develop maybe 100 horsepower!
Been a while since I have seen a Ford C model which in there day were pretty good old trucks when gasoline was less than a buck a gallon because it didn’t matter what gas engine was in them trucks they would get maybe 10 miles to the gallon on a good day going down hill with a tailwind. Additionally even though Ford made those things virtually unchanged except for engine and transmission from 1957 to 1990. Even though they were made for 33 years they are not that common to see on the road because companies that ran them normally ran them into the ground and then canalized them for parts or just junked them as a result finding C models in the wild or in junkyards these days is pretty uncommon. Additionally when Ford sold its Heavy duty truck line to Freightliner in the late 1990’s they sold the rights to C model and Cargo lines which meant that Ford also stopped making any parts for these old workhorses. As much as I alike these old C Models the only way I would take one is if was basically given to me even one with a Diesel engine in it.
I'm halfway through the video and pray you pass on this truck. It's not worth your trouble. Plus there's no title! Update: you did the right thing and passed. Thank you!
I wonder if that thing was a fire/rescue truck in a previous life. Those holes beside the headlights aren't stock and could have been for emergency lights.
I'm no expert, but based on what your video showed plus yours and Tyler's comments, I think you were wise to walk away from this one. However, this type of Ford cab over with a Detroit diesel fitted would make an awesome truck at the shop. Thank you for uploading your very interesting videos and greetings from the UK.
Hi Scott That motor right there loves gasoline, you can't give it enough. It's a Ford Super Duty either a 401/477/534 displacement. I use to work on these years ago. Might be overkill for your needs. Plus it has what I call the mystery shifter. Put it in any gear and there is enough slop in the linkage for a couple more shift patterns.
herd those motors are gas hogs .a 429/460 motor could make better power and use less gas .see alot of them for sale ,best to buy them before some one screws them up .
Scott you have here a "U" build it truck. When in good form as fleet truck a mile a gallon of gas no joke. Those air powered windshield wiper motor have to be used Daily if not they are frozen all dryer up. Cab over has not a bit of comfort in driver seat. You will walk funny at the end of the day. Right idea wrong truck, ok?
The Super Duty engines were plenty durable but the were definitely liked to chug down gasoline like a frat boy at an all you can drink kegger and that goes the same 292, 330, 359xd, 391, as well.
Used to have a Ford COE refueler nearly identical to this COE. It was the most cold natured gasoline engine vehicle I have ever been around(FE 352ci engine).
Nice 362 CID but definitly chew it over the beds too long for the wheel base and it sounds like it has a idle issue could be a massive vaccum leak I drove a couple of them one a barrel garbage truck with a 302 six cylender the other was a 352 v8 and one was a 318 Detroit with a ten speed road ranger I'm sure of one thing that was one slick truck I believe it was a 71 or 72 all air brakes it was once a fire truck. Good idea to hold off on that purchase
Old video for commenting, but... That guy owed you a serious apology for wasting your time. People are deceptive like that, hoping some fool will show up and fall in love and buy it in spite of the lies put in the ad. That story about a different lady working at the license branch and that's why the state kicked it back for title error was a pile of BS. The only true thing might be when he told you his name.
I'll disagree with everyone. Using the Vermont process you can get the title no sweat as long as you double check online it's not stolen or has a lien. Love these COE's, a cummins would be epic! If you had a trailer to tow it and he comes down in price, I'd go for it.
Manual or automatic? If manual, I would love to go for a spin, just only to relive the memories of those "whiny" sounding engines in the Loadstar 1700 buses I used to ride as a kid. But if I'm not mistaken, those buses likely had the 345 which is from the same engine family as the 392? Not sure if different displacements would affect engine sound.
@@michaelchan8915 Manual Eaton transmission (non synchro) with a 2 speed rear diff. Manual steering. It's a real chore to drive, but fun if nobody is behind me. They engines are all from the SV family. They came in 302, 345 and 392. The latter two shared the same block and intake architecture. I'm not an expert on them though.
@@Bread996 four speed or five? Cargostar? Is that the one with the funky column shifter or is it a floor shift that remains attached to the chassis even when the cab is raised?
@@michaelchan8915 5 speed Eaton. One super low gear, and 4 road gears. Cargostar. Floor shift, with the rear axle splitter on the side of the shifter like a big rig. Shifter stays on the chassis when the cab is tilted forward.
@@Bread996 Ahhhh okay. So 1st and reverse are on the gate to the far left, where 1st is forward and reverse is straight down. The way you drive it, is you always start off in 2nd and shift to 3rd, 4th and 5th and just leave the splitter in hi when empty? It's too bad you're not near my neck of the woods. I remember those trucks of the 70s being slow, but they all had some character. I vividly remember taking two school buses for a spin when I was in my late teens early twenties. Both were a mid 70s era Ford B600 or B700? One was a five speed. The other an Allison automatic. The five speed bus, you drive by treating 2nd as 1st gear, and I remembered being able to get that bus up to 65 miles an hour top speed. It was a struggle, but I was able to get it to that speed on the highway. The automatic bus was beyond painfully slow. I think I remembered being able to get that bus to max out at about 50 miles an hour. And that was with the pedal to the metal. I believe the engines in those school buses of that era would be a 361 V8.
No title, RUN. Checks in the mail is my other favorite story. To be honest you want an old GMC like that orange one you fixed that already has a Detroit in it
Sometimes it's cheaper to just walk away. My local fire department had one of those as a water tanker....and sold it off a few years ago .....sold it cheap... And it was a solid old truck. ...should of bought it.
Well it lived up to it's name. FORD haha I'm sure you guys could find something better at an auction. Those are always fun and you can bid online before going there to pick it up. If you go there before the auction you can check it out too
We have the same problem in the UK with people selling vehicles without the V5C document - our equivalent of a title. Normally their adverts follow with a line of bull of 'only takes a form from the post office and £25' - that is the case but then why haven't you done it 🤔 It'd make the thing a while lot easier to sell. Nah its because their not the registered keeper of the vehicle and although it's still possible to sort out and not too expensive but it does take a lot of time, as in months.
The sleeper will make a great dog house for Leroy lol drove a many a one those C models they ride good hope that 1 has power steering. A v6 turbo Detroit wood be cool in it.
If I remember correctly the Diesel engines that came in the C models were Cat 3208’s, and Detroit 8.2 “Fuel Pincher” V8’s and Cummins N-series and C8.3, Ford 6.6/7.8 Inline 6’s. If I were to repower a C series today I would be looking at mechanical Cummins 5.9 out of a “shipping crate” ops I mean Dodge
You might give Ross at RollingLiving a look. He’s got an old Ford C/O fire truck plus an old highway dept version of that truck. Maybe he might part with one if that’s what you’re looking for.
If you are ok with a bit of a project there is one up here in as good or better shape. Same era but I cant remember if its GM or Ford. It does run but will need work like this one. But the price is about 1000 bucks. Maybe less. I have way too many hot rods and projects and its not quite my style. But let me know and I will get ya pics.
For what a single axle semi tractor can be had for its a good call to walk away. Keep looking maybe find an old brigadier with a detroit that most would turn their nose at
fire trucks can be a good truck ,low miles ,good maintenance.the gear ratios can be dumb.try to find a 1980 or newer with a 429 motor .it seems best if you find one thats has not been Bubaed and hacked
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How much is the truck worth ?
I concur with other posts. Have the bloomin' title IN HAND before selling, period. If you "can't find it", file the paperwork and get it all straight, then WAIT until the new title comes in the mail, THEN put it up for sale. It's not hard, it just takes time.
Agreed. I sell a lot of cars and everyone asks if I have a title. In Indiana its in fact illegal to sell a car without a title. But done daily. But if I list it I have a title or its in the listing clearly. And thats only for parts or woods toys.
exactly, order the title, you will have it in 2 weeks, then post it for sale. I wish for sale sites required any vehicle sold without a title be listed as scrap only for scrap price. Would cut down some on scammers .
Just a waste of time even looking at it right now 😯
Titles are pretty easy to sort out IF you're dealing with the last person that had it was officially titled in their name. In this case absolutely not. It's doable but a lot of time and effort. This guy is just flipping and stretching the truth anyway he can. That sleeper is held on with drywall screws, that TIRE, always pass on a gas engine if someone has the air filter taken off as it will not get you home with the carb problems, etc.......
I really like them old Ford C cab units. I was hoping you’d get it. BUT you did right in letting him keep it.
Great video and good call to pass. Consider looking for an old diesel powered fire truck as a platform for your shop truck. Remove the body, add a junk yard flat bed and you might have a better start for the same$$. Those old ford cabovers sure are nice.
The Shop used to have one of those, we installed a 3-53 Detroit and a 4speed with 2 speed rear axle. Sounded fantastic and was great for picking up cylinder heads and blocks, cranks, etc.
Those trucks are so awesome, some of the most beautiful old trucks in history.
A vehicle without an engine has more value than a vehicle without a title.
He didn't have the title. He even had a story prepared. That's a veto right there.
L angle brackets from home depot holding bed on. Ha ha
It all depends on the price
that's the First lesson of Vehicle Buyer 101: No Title, No Sale.
I believe you made the correct choice... you drove away from this rats nest of problems! Too many problems as has previously been stated by your followers! I'm sure there's probably the absolutely right truck out there (with a diesel) that's needing your operation to be its new home! Discretion is the better part of valor! I don't comment often, but I really enjoy your channel, thanks for sharing!
RED flag #1 - No title
RED flag #2 - Wife can't get it but he can
RED flag #3 - It's for sale, but he still didn't get the title
RED flag #4 - Won't stay running
RED flag #5 - Sidewall of the steer tire down to the cords
There are lots of other trucks that you can find to re-do into a work truck...without all the B.S.!!
LOTS
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this was a bad idea......
He must have meant it would drive to HIS home- fifty feet up the driveway.
Only if it did the fifty feet on the back of a tow truck. 😂
I do believe that truck has seen it's better days. It's definitely a fixer upper but you better have big pockets
O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸Happy New Year…2024! The old Ford C model cabovers were great trucks! I drove a 65 C800 & loved it. It had the 391 5&2 speed. It has several bad spots that are prone to rust out, but that one looked pretty decent. It must’ve been a fire truck previously. I loved the sleeper, but whoever put it on sure didn’t know what they were doing! It’s a shame that he didn’t have the title issue worked out. I noticed that the cab seemed to raise up easily, so the cab springs aren’t worn out. Hope that you get that truck. I’m interested in the sleeper. Keep us posted on this truck. Blessings.🥰😎✌️
Good decision to pass particularly with no clear title present.
Yes all you need is a453 t, that would be the bomb, since people like us love the Detroit 2 cycle engine. I'm one.
Agree on the “run from this”…when it comes to titles, no excuse is acceptable.
Thank you for the Monday video. Cool old truck. The right truck will come along some day soon.
I drove these back in the 1960's for a U.S. mail contractor who had a fleet of these along with Ford OTR tractors for sectional mail centers logistics. The C's were great in the cities with high visibility and shorter turning radius. However they were not a very comfortable trucks after a few hours. The seat angle was always a problem to adjust. I was never crazy about getting in and out of them either. If one had a big belly it would rub against the steering wheel. Glad you passed on this because of the title problem. One needs to be suspect of anyone trying to sell a vehicle without the proper paperwork. I think this seller was looking for a farmer who would never take it out on the road and just forget about the title.
I really appriciate the music and some great imagery at the end of your video’s. This music just don’t gets old.
I had an 84 model I think it was. Ran like a champ. Absolutely no rust on it. My main reason for selling it was it was geared really low and didn't go much over 60.
You made the right call on this one. I reckon the real killer is the title and the asking price. In the UK, the registration document is NOT proof of vehicle ownership. It is so the police have the name of somebody to go after if any offences have ben committed.
Oh, the good old C-cab with the knuckle buster 5000 on the floor. God, I hated that shifter. 😂😂
I drove a 1971 C600 with a Ft391 engine from Sacamento to Merced and back every night for years., the air brake system was a welcome improvement over the hydraulic with vacuum assist brakes.
Red White and Bethune on RUclips have a busted radiator and are looking for a hand. Told them they should reach out to you guys so bought I would mention the same to you about them. Love when RUclips’s are able to help each other.
I drove one of this Ford cabover's 45+ years ago. It burned 4 quarts of oil every 200 miles. Good memories.
Hey, thanks for this. A couple of years back, there was a c600 race hauler for sale up in VA with a large box with a dove tail, the cab had a coffin sleeper with a vintage split AC. I was 6 months out from being flush enough to pick it up and am still kicking myself.
"I don't have the title right now..." Run away!
On hearing that phrase I thought "Tyler's going for his keys".
I don't know about the USA but my guess, based on what it's like over here, is that getting the title for a vehicle is fairly easy if you are the legitimate owner, but otherwise sliding down a stair rail with lots of rusty nails sticking out is more pleasurable.
@@18robsmith I was thinking "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" when I wrote that. Run away! Run away! 😄😄
FWIW I think you guys made the right call, guys. It has potential but I am always uncomfortable when I discover that what I have been told isn't what I really find when I arrive and start looking at a vehicle for sale. You will find the right one for you if he doesn't come around on the price. That tire...and the split rim...no way would I have wanted to be seated directly on top of that on the run home!
I’ve run into no title excuses before, some very elaborate, but in every case I walked away. There’s no good reason to put up a vehicle for sale without a clear title. My last car purchase the seller offered to let me drive away while she paid off the lien on the car I was looking at. I told her to call me when she had the title in hand. She actually did a month later and the deal was done.
I have an 85 C700 with the 500ci Detroit Diesel (4 stroke) only has 80k on it, it was a PGE truck, just aged out of service and sat on a farm for many years. I planned to make it electric/hybrid motorhome. In california you can't run a pre 2005 diesel anymore unless its a motorhome, so I got a vermont motorhome registeration/plate for it, so its legal. Only paid $500 for it, towing it was another $300..I'm just now replacing the clutch hydraulics (all rusted) and new front tires and hope to drive it to the new storage location.
If interested in it, let me know, don't know if I will ever get to it these days.
That sleeper is there because that is where he lives. His wife kicked him to the curb and he owes her money. That is why she has the title and not him. That truck would have had to have been idled all the way to your place. You did the right thing. Smile, say Thanks and walk away.
Loved those old Ford C series cabovers. They were around forever from when I was a kid (got a toy one for Christmas once around 1960) until I was pushing 40. I hope you find one of these. But whatever you find, I am looking forward to your build. FYI - I always like the looks of the 56 GMCs. I think the 600 series could be had with 4 and 6-71s if you get lucky. 😉 You were right to pass on this dog.
The cab over reminds me of the old Mack Fire Trucks
RUN!!! Do not hide. Do NOT pass Go! Just RUN!
I bet it is geared for about 3500 rpm at 60 mph. Would need a new diff. You would need a 100 gal gas tank just to get to town and back. Automatic tranny. No 2 speed axle? Not enough torque to haul 10 tires and wheels back from the tire shop. Or for your driveway. Let alone the hills in your area. 4-53 would maybe able to get to up to a reasonable speed but it really needs more gears than that tranny likely has available. That truck always had light loads. No current title? RRRRRUUUUUUUUNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really like the old C model Ford cabovers
A buddy of mine buys them old fords just like that from fire departments all around. He’s bought one with a 429 with less than 80 k miles on it. He’s bought several with caterpillars in them. Check ur local fire departments. A lot times they set them up and sell them cheaper have a nice Ford f450 with a mechanic bed Runs good drives good. Does have a 6.0 but it’s had some of the upgrades. I think my brother said he’s take 5k for it. Only problem we are in central la
My old man had a 25 foot flatbed with a 100’ sign crane on it. Slow as dirt, hard riding and took a mile to turn
Good thing u had Indiana diesel with you
Old firetruck. You probably made a good call on this walk-away.
Fix Or Repair Daily or Found On Road Dead! My stepfather had a '59 with a race car body on it back in the 70's. Did not like to idle. Keep it tached & it could develop maybe 100 horsepower!
Good call to pass. There's probably an old GMC around there with a Detroit that can fill your needs.
Tell him to finish getting the title and THEN you'll pay cash.
@@silasmarner7586 No title, mug pays cash and waits for title which never arrives. Buyer advertises truck again somewhere else, mug pays cash........
Gotta have a fast foot on them old carbureted Ford's! Pump pump pump!
Drove a 64 gasser 40 years ago...produce truck. With your back issues you will love it 😀
Yep. Cabs must weigh a half ton on those things!
Been a while since I have seen a Ford C model which in there day were pretty good old trucks when gasoline was less than a buck a gallon because it didn’t matter what gas engine was in them trucks they would get maybe 10 miles to the gallon on a good day going down hill with a tailwind. Additionally even though Ford made those things virtually unchanged except for engine and transmission from 1957 to 1990. Even though they were made for 33 years they are not that common to see on the road because companies that ran them normally ran them into the ground and then canalized them for parts or just junked them as a result finding C models in the wild or in junkyards these days is pretty uncommon. Additionally when Ford sold its Heavy duty truck line to Freightliner in the late 1990’s they sold the rights to C model and Cargo lines which meant that Ford also stopped making any parts for these old workhorses. As much as I alike these old C Models the only way I would take one is if was basically given to me even one with a Diesel engine in it.
Carburetor is likely gummed up and the choke doesn't seem to be working. I'd suggest a rebuild kit for that carb.
I'm halfway through the video and pray you pass on this truck. It's not worth your trouble. Plus there's no title! Update: you did the right thing and passed. Thank you!
I wonder if that thing was a fire/rescue truck in a previous life. Those holes beside the headlights aren't stock and could have been for emergency lights.
I'm no expert, but based on what your video showed plus yours and Tyler's comments, I think you were wise to walk away from this one. However, this type of Ford cab over with a Detroit diesel fitted would make an awesome truck at the shop. Thank you for uploading your very interesting videos and greetings from the UK.
A Detroit 4 - 53 series would be classic in a Ford like that. You’d be 1 of a few people in the world that could pull it off!!
I agree look for rescue truck to eliminate removing the pump. The other choice is an ambulance.
A ford COE of that vintage is my dream truck
Hi Scott
That motor right there loves gasoline, you can't give it enough. It's a Ford Super Duty either a 401/477/534 displacement. I use to work on these years ago. Might be overkill for your needs. Plus it has what I call the mystery shifter. Put it in any gear and there is enough slop in the linkage for a couple more shift patterns.
It’s an automatic
herd those motors are gas hogs .a 429/460 motor could make better power and use less gas .see alot of them for sale ,best to buy them before some one screws them up .
@@garymathews4042 So there good for turning petrol into noise. We call gas petrol here!
Scott you have here a "U" build it truck. When in good form as fleet truck a mile a gallon of gas no joke.
Those air powered windshield wiper motor have to be used Daily if not they are frozen all dryer up. Cab over has not a bit of comfort in driver seat. You will walk funny at the end of the day. Right idea wrong truck, ok?
The Super Duty engines were plenty durable but the were definitely liked to chug down gasoline like a frat boy at an all you can drink kegger and that goes the same 292, 330, 359xd, 391, as well.
fire trucks ran the 3208 cat motor, usually have low miles and hours on then, can be had for a good price
Used to have a Ford COE refueler nearly identical to this COE. It was the most cold natured gasoline engine vehicle I have ever been around(FE 352ci engine).
Nice 362 CID but definitly chew it over the beds too long for the wheel base and it sounds like it has a idle issue could be a massive vaccum leak I drove a couple of them one a barrel garbage truck with a 302 six cylender the other was a 352 v8 and one was a 318 Detroit with a ten speed road ranger I'm sure of one thing that was one slick truck I believe it was a 71 or 72 all air brakes it was once a fire truck. Good idea to hold off on that purchase
Old video for commenting, but... That guy owed you a serious apology for wasting your time. People are deceptive like that, hoping some fool will show up and fall in love and buy it in spite of the lies put in the ad. That story about a different lady working at the license branch and that's why the state kicked it back for title error was a pile of BS. The only true thing might be when he told you his name.
You were smart to walk away from that scrap pile. I wouldn't waste time on lost title vehicles.
Good you walked away, a right crock.
The cabs sounded solid it would run some what you made the right decision let him keep it
As the song goes "Walk on by"................now run..🏃♂️
I'll disagree with everyone. Using the Vermont process you can get the title no sweat as long as you double check online it's not stolen or has a lien. Love these COE's, a cummins would be epic! If you had a trailer to tow it and he comes down in price, I'd go for it.
That truck had such an overhang on the rear, that if you jumped onto it the cab would go up in the air,..
Cabovers are cool!
Without a doubt, walk away. That thing is a shed. Might make a good boat anchor 🤔 . Definitely a major rebuild
I've got the international version of this truck called a Cargostar. Gas motor 392. Really neat trucks, but painfully slow.
Manual or automatic? If manual, I would love to go for a spin, just only to relive the memories of those "whiny" sounding engines in the Loadstar 1700 buses I used to ride as a kid. But if I'm not mistaken, those buses likely had the 345 which is from the same engine family as the 392? Not sure if different displacements would affect engine sound.
@@michaelchan8915 Manual Eaton transmission (non synchro) with a 2 speed rear diff. Manual steering. It's a real chore to drive, but fun if nobody is behind me. They engines are all from the SV family. They came in 302, 345 and 392. The latter two shared the same block and intake architecture. I'm not an expert on them though.
@@Bread996 four speed or five? Cargostar? Is that the one with the funky column shifter or is it a floor shift that remains attached to the chassis even when the cab is raised?
@@michaelchan8915 5 speed Eaton. One super low gear, and 4 road gears. Cargostar. Floor shift, with the rear axle splitter on the side of the shifter like a big rig. Shifter stays on the chassis when the cab is tilted forward.
@@Bread996 Ahhhh okay. So 1st and reverse are on the gate to the far left, where 1st is forward and reverse is straight down. The way you drive it, is you always start off in 2nd and shift to 3rd, 4th and 5th and just leave the splitter in hi when empty? It's too bad you're not near my neck of the woods. I remember those trucks of the 70s being slow, but they all had some character. I vividly remember taking two school buses for a spin when I was in my late teens early twenties. Both were a mid 70s era Ford B600 or B700? One was a five speed. The other an Allison automatic. The five speed bus, you drive by treating 2nd as 1st gear, and I remembered being able to get that bus up to 65 miles an hour top speed. It was a struggle, but I was able to get it to that speed on the highway. The automatic bus was beyond painfully slow. I think I remembered being able to get that bus to max out at about 50 miles an hour. And that was with the pedal to the metal. I believe the engines in those school buses of that era would be a 361 V8.
good call ,it is terrible some folks think that could be drove 100 miles and then it had spoke wheels and hubs great pass!
only IF, the price is right!
good luck if u decide to get it. keep the videos coming
Surprised as hell about your sponsor. Keeps?????
My first diesel was a 70 Ford cab over with a 180 Cummins in 1974.
I worked for a company that had the exact truck. It would go like hell on flat ground...a dog going up a hill.
No title, RUN. Checks in the mail is my other favorite story. To be honest you want an old GMC like that orange one you fixed that already has a Detroit in it
No way in how they mounted the blue thing that's behind the cab. A good time to walk away really fast.
I think those cabs were actually built by BUDD Company as others used them also like Mack and other.
Sometimes it's cheaper to just walk away. My local fire department had one of those as a water tanker....and sold it off a few years ago .....sold it cheap... And it was a solid old truck. ...should of bought it.
I had a very similar c-600 gasser, it left me beside the road with a blown engine. good truck. swap in a diesel and you should be good to go.
Crank up the idle speed, adjust the clutch, leave the property timed to avoid rush hour on the way back.
Adjust the clutch…. It’s an automatic so that’s how bad it is that you think it’s a manual
@@BusGreaseMonkey Wow! What a junker.
Well it lived up to it's name. FORD haha I'm sure you guys could find something better at an auction. Those are always fun and you can bid online before going there to pick it up. If you go there before the auction you can check it out too
Sketcky how that bed was moved back.
Nice looking flat bed , good notion to pass , no papers , especially log book , bye bye , out the door , next .
1:00......I see it....I like it!
That was a headache tied to a heartache. There has to be a better shop truck out there somewhere.
Good candidate for a 6v53. If it had a title.
Looks like an ex-firetruck by the looks of it.
Look up the Vermont loophole registration
We have the same problem in the UK with people selling vehicles without the V5C document - our equivalent of a title.
Normally their adverts follow with a line of bull of 'only takes a form from the post office and £25' - that is the case but then why haven't you done it 🤔 It'd make the thing a while lot easier to sell. Nah its because their not the registered keeper of the vehicle and although it's still possible to sort out and not too expensive but it does take a lot of time, as in months.
The sleeper will make a great dog house for Leroy lol drove a many a one those C models they ride good hope that 1 has power steering. A v6 turbo Detroit wood be cool in it.
A 4-71T would be a good engine for something like that.
Ford used to put Cat 3208s in C cabs.
If I remember correctly the Diesel engines that came in the C models were Cat 3208’s, and Detroit 8.2 “Fuel Pincher” V8’s and Cummins N-series and C8.3, Ford 6.6/7.8 Inline 6’s. If I were to repower a C series today I would be looking at mechanical Cummins 5.9 out of a “shipping crate” ops I mean Dodge
Find an international 4900 with the DT466 engine or a s1700 with DT360 both of these are great reliable engines in these trucks
Good idea to pass on that one, there are better rigs out there to be found. I'm sure something with a factory Detroit will pop up for you.
You might give Ross at RollingLiving a look. He’s got an old Ford C/O fire truck plus an old highway dept version of that truck. Maybe he might part with one if that’s what you’re looking for.
Looks like it may have started its life as a fire truck... I'd look for an S series International with a DT466 in it
That poor truck. Sounds like some of the parts are flying in loose formation under there.
If you are ok with a bit of a project there is one up here in as good or better shape. Same era but I cant remember if its GM or Ford. It does run but will need work like this one. But the price is about 1000 bucks. Maybe less. I have way too many hot rods and projects and its not quite my style. But let me know and I will get ya pics.
Its a GMC. Has air brakes as well. No bed. 427 tall deck big block Chevy! Other than no bed its very similar to this truck.
you could not have afforded to drive it home , that was a 534 cid engine in that truck , about 3-4 mpg when running top notch ...
The spoke wheels should have sent you home.
For what a single axle semi tractor can be had for its a good call to walk away. Keep looking maybe find an old brigadier with a detroit that most would turn their nose at
Seller take care, buyer beware. In this case good choice backing away from no title guy.
fire trucks can be a good truck ,low miles ,good maintenance.the gear ratios can be dumb.try to find a 1980 or newer with a 429 motor .it seems best if you find one thats has not been Bubaed and hacked
Simple...No clear title no sale.
Nothing worse than chasing a title.
I chased one for 3 months once.