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I love the videos always man we appreciate the hard work I’m a Detroit/Flint native I can strongly agree and confused on why he was taken out the starting lineup and you can fact check me Monty Williams has a interview about maikel Bridges jumpshot and consistency when he was fresh in the league the thing is we knew once we draft him his shot needed development what changed in 6 months 😂 it’s his upside why taking him at #5 was is upside if not we should’ve took bad health witmore
I’m a pistons fan and hate what Monty has done. 38 games into the season and we have not once seen an Ivey, Cade, Ausar, bogey, Duren lineup…but we see Isaiah livers starting
Cade Ivey and bogie can shoot. The issue before was instead of Ivey we had Killian and stew and nobody would respect their 3 point attempts. It may not be GSW spacing but it’s enough to let Cade and Ivey operate
I would rather see Ausar traded thsn have to play under this coach. He was getting accolades as possible top defensive player and all rookie team, then he gets benched? Makes no sense.
@@DetroitEastthe entire team is a liability. Let's lose 20 instead of 30. We still lose EVERY GAME. If the pistons don't want to play him for whatever really stupid reason, send him down to the G league
Im so fucking sick of Monty Williams. What he has done to these kids in his never ending attempts to get fired is fucked up and I hope that hes blacklisted from the NBA for this.
Its already too late. At their 4th game cade and killian started looking him off while he was wide open constantly and that completely killed his confidence. He started missing way worse like air balls every game after that. Then just stopped shooting all together.
@@nelsondendomo6687you say he carrying. But carrying them where? Where are those numbers leading to a win or losses. Haliburton is carrying take Hali off the team and the pacers are the worst team in the east or one of the worst teams. LeBron carried a trash teams to the finals multiple years. Curry carried his team to win 4 rings. Giannis carries his team by running both ends of the floor. Carrying leads to wins You’re just there if you’re putting up numbers that isn’t contributing to wins. Carrying is when you’re team can’t win without you leading the way. The pistons can’t win without Cade but they not winning with Cade to begin with.
A Cade-Ivey-Ausar-Duren lineup would be a spacing nightmare. A wing that can only cut isn’t portable enough to play off a primary ball handler. That’s why he’s with the bench unit.
We don't have an Ausar Thompson problem - we have a Monty "freaking" Williams problem. Monty was clearly telling the truth when he told Gores that he didn't want to be coaching this season - because I sure can't call what Monty is doing - "coaching." There is NOTHING to play for this season EXCEPT development and evaluation of our young core - yet Monty's incomprehensible lineups, substitutions and minutes distribution remain the biggest obstacle to playing and developing our college aged core. So instead we get Monty playing Livers and Burks - two players who won't even be on the team next year. Get Monty out of here - pullleezzzeee!
The piston’s organization take for granted the presence of a legit veteran center. Thompson and Duren and even Wiseman could use someone like a And a Man a Rasheed Wallace or Kenyon Martin in the organization to give them tips and share experiences and if they actually had a veteran center/PF they could learn directly the little but important things like how to rebound better and deflecting the ball better and tipping the ball and around the rim types of shots like the baby hook shot and using the backboard more often and baby floaters
That's because More than Likely the "Higher Ups" want Victor W as the #1 consensus ROY then Chet H after him. Though it was early in the season, it was looking like Thompson was on a trajectory to be a contender for ROY along with both Holmgrem and VIctor. So what happened? The P's that B heads were probably exploding at that thought. "What? Another potential Dennis Rodman; and he's with the Pistons too! Oh no! We can't have that!" I wouldn't be a bit surprised if word from the top came down on that tip. I mean Ima' Pistons fan from way back, 1969. And I/we know there will Nevuh' Evuh' be another Rodman! We all know about Dennis's take no prisoners defense in every game. But how many people know or even Heard about this dude riding a stationary bike for 20 to 30 minutes, After a Game? Whuhchusay!? Yup. I saw a clip of Chuck Daly pointing to Dennis riding that bike, not in a game, not in a game but After the game! So I know you cats can dig where I'm comin' from with the Thompson 2.0 comparison. You said that you're not saying Ausar is the next Michael Jordan. Ok. I can git wit dat' but check this out: "From sportskeeda.com] "Ausar Thompson has entered rare Air this season by accomplishing an incredible statistic *_Only Michael Jordan Has Reached"_* ...Thompson is a monster on the glass, though. He's *_Leading the Rookies in Rebounding_* even though this year's class features two 7-foot unicorns in *_Victor Wembanyama_* and Chet Holmgren." www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/news-pistons-rookie-ausar-thompson-finds-michael-jordan-s-lone-peer-amazing-rookie-nba-stat Y'all catch that? He was *_LEADING the Rookies in Rebounding!!!_* You think that bit of data was lost on the Boys on High? That it went unnoticed? Hardly. After reading that the *_Plot_* Really thickened. WANTED! TOUGH FOCUSED PLAYERS TO CONTINUE THE WORK ETHIC, LEGACY AND PRIDE OF THE *_BAD BOYS AND THE GOIN' TO WORK PISTONS!!!_* SO FAR, SINCE THE LAST "IMPACT" PLAYER OF THE 2004 CHAMPIONS LEFT, WE HAVE HAD *_NO TAKERS!!!_* Maybe 2 or 3 are trying. Question is...who are they?
@@TerranovaBasketballStudy he was part of the reason Cade got doubled so much shooting under 20% from 3 and his off ball defense was bad he got to play 4 or 1 hide his horrible shooting because pistons only got one good shooter in starting lineup its just the horrible roster construction and imo only way to keep him on the floor as a positive is the pg while cade out or the pf
@@DetroitEast Absolutely correct, I like the young man however the truth is Ausar being on this team is another symptom of Incompetent leadership. I like the young man but he was not needed. The Pistons need spacing around Cade and this is the bottom line. The only non shooter on the floor should be Duren.
@@DetroitEastNot really. Go back and watch closer. The issue wasn't so much that teams were helping off Ausar but the sets themselves. The biggest issue before Bogey got back was that they didn't even try to run multiple actions and ran Spain maybe three times and rarely used handoffs so Cade was always attacking into a set defense. No one would look good doing that. (Go watch Boston's stagnant offense against Miami last year.) The secondary problem is they would exacerbate the lack of shooting by slotting Killian and Ausar together on the weak side which made it easy to bring a third defender to Cade. It made it very easy for the defense to concede a three to one of them since the low guy would just sit in Ausar's cutting lane Because Ausar is such a good cutter if you have him by himself on the wing it's a guaranteed dunk if his man leaves him because he'll cut and Cade will find him. Between his cutting, finishing, passing and rebounding there is enough there for him to be a positive under a coach who has even a little creativity. But if you try to use him like Grant Williams that's just not going to work. He's also rarely in the dunker spot which is stupid and they should use him in pick and roll, like how Brooklyn used Bruce Brown. Anyway, it boils down to coaching more than anything. (Although playing two non shooting guards together *IS* untenable.)
Get rid of Hayes Livers Harris and Wiseman, draft Walter, Williams or Risacher. We need shooting and paint/rim protection plus we need to be better at help defense, rotations, and p&r defense basically defense as a whole
Monty literally has started Killian Hayes who starting gives them anywhere from 2-10 points on extremely inefficient volume, Killian Hayes needs to be benched, you can even play Ausar as a PF and he'd have a ton of impact. The pistons are doomed if they don't remove Monty from the team.
Even the commentators are disingenuous about the brothers talent and ineptitude in coaching these two brothers. Maybe the betting would be affected by their talent. People bet from peewee league on up so don’t expect the pro’s to be any different. The Thompson brothers are bonafied gems they dare not put them together to play.
The NBA sucks because the main skill..shooting…is optional. It’s all about height, size and athleticism. In tennis, you have to be able to serve to be a pro. In football..you cannot be a receiver who does not catch that well. In baseball you need to hit. It is not optional UNLESS you are a pitcher. Basketball is a joke because athleticism and size substitute for the main skill..shooting. How on EARTH can so many dudes play basketball and not shoot?!?! It’s bizarre.
Monty hates young players and especially young players with talent. He's a phony coach, he'll just sit there with a blank, dumb look on his face. He also picks one shitty player as his favorite as long as he's a bench player. He destroyed and alienated deAndre ayton for us( yes, i'm a suns fan) and i feel for you guys. He conned your organization in thinking he's an nba coach just like he did in phoenix. You need to get rid of him as soon as posdible before he pushes alk your young talent to ask for trades.
Say what you want about Killian, but trying to say that he isn't a creator (the one thing he was actually really good at) just demonstrates that you never actually watched the Pistons. 😂😂😂
Bruh its called the rookie wall. He benched himself with all the air balls and TO's. He's back and playing OK. Sorry you cant play the 3 and teams dont respect your jump shot. Your show numbers but not using logic.
Pistons a real poverty franchise lmao. They aren't playing Ausar since they're in win now mode after their historic losing streak lol. Pistons as a franchise only tries when they feel pressured to. But uh oh, they are just making stupid decisions to stay mediocre in the long term.
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I love the videos always man we appreciate the hard work I’m a Detroit/Flint native I can strongly agree and confused on why he was taken out the starting lineup and you can fact check me Monty Williams has a interview about maikel Bridges jumpshot and consistency when he was fresh in the league the thing is we knew once we draft him his shot needed development what changed in 6 months 😂 it’s his upside why taking him at #5 was is upside if not we should’ve took bad health witmore
I’m a pistons fan and hate what Monty has done. 38 games into the season and we have not once seen an Ivey, Cade, Ausar, bogey, Duren lineup…but we see Isaiah livers starting
Spacing wouldn't be to good there
Spacing doesn't matter at this point. They're going to lose anyway. Play Ivey, Ausar, Sasser and let them develop.
Yeah
Cade Ivey and bogie can shoot. The issue before was instead of Ivey we had Killian and stew and nobody would respect their 3 point attempts. It may not be GSW spacing but it’s enough to let Cade and Ivey operate
@@owethunala2632spacing good with a guy who averages 4 points starting?
At least Ausar brings something to the court.
Monty Williams is also stunting Marcus Sasser's growth. He has been getting limited minutes. He should be getting more minutes than Killian Hayes.
Agreed
Most definitely
it is hilarious that Hayes is still getting 30 minutes a game
there is literally not another NBA team that would do this to themselves
Sassers literally is the gaurd for Cade because he can shoot the ball and also is gravitational on offense because of his aggressive play style
I would rather see Ausar traded thsn have to play under this coach. He was getting accolades as possible top defensive player and all rookie team, then he gets benched? Makes no sense.
He can't improve our team if you don't play him. This is truly 9D chess by Monty.
Ok lol
He needs to play pf or PG so he won't be liability on offense
@@DetroitEastthe entire team is a liability. Let's lose 20 instead of 30. We still lose EVERY GAME. If the pistons don't want to play him for whatever really stupid reason, send him down to the G league
@@getplayed7272 I agree but can see floor as PG or pg
Im so fucking sick of Monty Williams. What he has done to these kids in his never ending attempts to get fired is fucked up and I hope that hes blacklisted from the NBA for this.
Its already too late. At their 4th game cade and killian started looking him off while he was wide open constantly and that completely killed his confidence. He started missing way worse like air balls every game after that. Then just stopped shooting all together.
“Killian” please be serious
I'm not a fan of ball hogger Cade and Killian needs to take seats, please
@@Jenniferadu2109 not Cade, he carrying
@@nelsondendomo6687where's he carrying them cause it's not to a victory
@@nelsondendomo6687you say he carrying. But carrying them where? Where are those numbers leading to a win or losses. Haliburton is carrying take Hali off the team and the pacers are the worst team in the east or one of the worst teams. LeBron carried a trash teams to the finals multiple years. Curry carried his team to win 4 rings. Giannis carries his team by running both ends of the floor. Carrying leads to wins You’re just there if you’re putting up numbers that isn’t contributing to wins. Carrying is when you’re team can’t win without you leading the way. The pistons can’t win without Cade but they not winning with Cade to begin with.
The pistons starting line up should be:
PG: Cade
SG: Ivey
SF: Bogdanovich
PF: Ausar
C: Duren
That’s what it should be but we all know what it will be lol
My worry is both Ausar and Duren are non-shooters
Isaiah Stewart is shooting 39% from three - I'd pair him with Ausar to improve the spacing
Agreed I'd say send Livers to the g league and give his minutes to Ausar. Also while we're sending players to the g league. Send Wiseman too
A Cade-Ivey-Ausar-Duren lineup would be a spacing nightmare. A wing that can only cut isn’t portable enough to play off a primary ball handler. That’s why he’s with the bench unit.
However a player that locks up the opposing teams best player gives Cade and Ivey more opportunities to exert themselves offensively.
bro cade still scoring tho
We don't have an Ausar Thompson problem - we have a Monty "freaking" Williams problem. Monty was clearly telling the truth when he told Gores that he didn't want to be coaching this season - because I sure can't call what Monty is doing - "coaching." There is NOTHING to play for this season EXCEPT development and evaluation of our young core - yet Monty's incomprehensible lineups, substitutions and minutes distribution remain the biggest obstacle to playing and developing our college aged core. So instead we get Monty playing Livers and Burks - two players who won't even be on the team next year. Get Monty out of here - pullleezzzeee!
Very well thought out video. Haven't seen anyone else cover this.
The piston’s organization take for granted the presence of a legit veteran center. Thompson and Duren and even Wiseman could use someone like a And a Man a Rasheed Wallace or Kenyon Martin in the organization to give them tips and share experiences and if they actually had a veteran center/PF they could learn directly the little but important things like how to rebound better and deflecting the ball better and tipping the ball and around the rim types of shots like the baby hook shot and using the backboard more often and baby floaters
That's because More than Likely the "Higher Ups" want Victor W as the #1 consensus ROY then Chet H after him. Though it was early in the season, it was looking like Thompson was on a trajectory to be a contender for ROY along with both Holmgrem and VIctor.
So what happened? The P's that B heads were probably exploding at that thought. "What? Another potential Dennis Rodman; and he's with the Pistons too! Oh no! We can't have that!" I wouldn't be a bit surprised if word from the top came down on that tip.
I mean Ima' Pistons fan from way back, 1969. And I/we know there will Nevuh' Evuh' be another Rodman! We all know about Dennis's take no prisoners defense in every game. But how many people know or even Heard about this dude riding a stationary bike for 20 to 30 minutes, After a Game? Whuhchusay!? Yup. I saw a clip of Chuck Daly pointing to Dennis riding that bike, not in a game, not in a game but After the game! So I know you cats can dig where I'm comin' from with the Thompson 2.0 comparison.
You said that you're not saying Ausar is the next Michael Jordan. Ok. I can git wit dat' but check this out:
"From sportskeeda.com]
"Ausar Thompson has entered rare Air this season by accomplishing an incredible statistic *_Only Michael Jordan Has Reached"_*
...Thompson is a monster on the glass, though. He's *_Leading the Rookies in Rebounding_* even though this year's class features two 7-foot unicorns in *_Victor Wembanyama_* and Chet Holmgren."
www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/news-pistons-rookie-ausar-thompson-finds-michael-jordan-s-lone-peer-amazing-rookie-nba-stat
Y'all catch that? He was *_LEADING the Rookies in Rebounding!!!_* You think that bit of data was lost on the Boys on High? That it went unnoticed? Hardly.
After reading that the *_Plot_* Really thickened.
WANTED! TOUGH FOCUSED PLAYERS TO CONTINUE THE WORK ETHIC, LEGACY AND PRIDE OF THE *_BAD BOYS AND THE GOIN' TO WORK PISTONS!!!_*
SO FAR, SINCE THE LAST "IMPACT" PLAYER OF THE 2004 CHAMPIONS LEFT, WE HAVE HAD *_NO TAKERS!!!_*
Maybe 2 or 3 are trying. Question is...who are they?
I wouldn’t say he can’t play with Kill cause they both were staters when he started. 😮
He needs to play pf or PG only way he not a liability on offense
I mean we saw the role he wasn’t an offensive liability for 18 games lol
@@TerranovaBasketballStudy he was part of the reason Cade got doubled so much shooting under 20% from 3 and his off ball defense was bad he got to play 4 or 1 hide his horrible shooting because pistons only got one good shooter in starting lineup its just the horrible roster construction and imo only way to keep him on the floor as a positive is the pg while cade out or the pf
@@DetroitEast Absolutely correct, I like the young man however the truth is Ausar being on this team is another symptom of Incompetent leadership. I like the young man but he was not needed. The Pistons need spacing around Cade and this is the bottom line. The only non shooter on the floor should be Duren.
@@DetroitEastNot really. Go back and watch closer.
The issue wasn't so much that teams
were helping off Ausar but the sets themselves. The biggest issue before Bogey got back was that they didn't even try to run multiple actions and ran Spain maybe three times and rarely used handoffs so Cade was always attacking into a set defense. No one would look good doing that. (Go watch Boston's stagnant offense against Miami last year.) The secondary problem is they would exacerbate the lack of shooting by slotting Killian and Ausar together on the weak side which made it easy to bring a third defender to Cade. It made it very easy for the defense to concede a three to one of them since the low guy would just sit in Ausar's cutting lane
Because Ausar is such a good cutter if you have him by himself on the wing it's a guaranteed dunk if his man leaves him because he'll cut and Cade will find him.
Between his cutting, finishing, passing and rebounding there is enough there for him to be a positive under a coach who has even a little creativity. But if you try to use him like Grant Williams that's just not going to work.
He's also rarely in the dunker spot which is stupid and they should use him in pick and roll, like how Brooklyn used Bruce Brown.
Anyway, it boils down to coaching more than anything. (Although playing two non shooting guards together *IS* untenable.)
@@michaelahurt coaching horrible
Finally someone that tells the truth. I'll subscribe if you make a video on how bad Stew is
Get rid of Hayes Livers Harris and Wiseman, draft Walter, Williams or Risacher. We need shooting and paint/rim protection plus we need to be better at help defense, rotations, and p&r defense basically defense as a whole
Ngl defensive superstar but he won’t be complete if he can develop the offense but he will be a crazy double guy
Monty literally has started Killian Hayes who starting gives them anywhere from 2-10 points on extremely inefficient volume, Killian Hayes needs to be benched, you can even play Ausar as a PF and he'd have a ton of impact. The pistons are doomed if they don't remove Monty from the team.
Livers was being Showcasted to be traded. In all fairness he is coming off an injury. Glad he's gone tho
Monty did Ausar and Sasser wrong. Totally destroyed their rookie season. Disgraceful...
Even the commentators are disingenuous about the brothers talent and ineptitude in coaching these two brothers. Maybe the betting would be affected by their talent. People bet from peewee league on up so don’t expect the pro’s to be any different. The Thompson brothers are bonafied gems they dare not put them together to play.
The NBA sucks because the main skill..shooting…is optional. It’s all about height, size and athleticism. In tennis, you have to be able to serve to be a pro. In football..you cannot be a receiver who does not catch that well. In baseball you need to hit. It is not optional UNLESS you are a pitcher. Basketball is a joke because athleticism and size substitute for the main skill..shooting. How on EARTH can so many dudes play basketball and not shoot?!?! It’s bizarre.
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I'm not surprised that the pistons are flubbing this, horribly run since their almost dynasty in the 2000s
kinda reminds me of how bad pheonix utilized ayton
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You’d think they’d play him a ton of minutes
Monty prefers killian over ausar thats bogus
Monty hates young players and especially young players with talent. He's a phony coach, he'll just sit there with a blank, dumb look on his face. He also picks one shitty player as his favorite as long as he's a bench player. He destroyed and alienated deAndre ayton for us( yes, i'm a suns fan) and i feel for you guys. He conned your organization in thinking he's an nba coach just like he did in phoenix. You need to get rid of him as soon as posdible before he pushes alk your young talent to ask for trades.
Say what you want about Killian, but trying to say that he isn't a creator (the one thing he was actually really good at) just demonstrates that you never actually watched the Pistons. 😂😂😂
Pistons trade ausar thompson to the lakers for Dlo and Prince plus picks
Bruh its called the rookie wall. He benched himself with all the air balls and TO's. He's back and playing OK. Sorry you cant play the 3 and teams dont respect your jump shot. Your show numbers but not using logic.
they are tanking
Pistons a real poverty franchise lmao. They aren't playing Ausar since they're in win now mode after their historic losing streak lol. Pistons as a franchise only tries when they feel pressured to. But uh oh, they are just making stupid decisions to stay mediocre in the long term.