Better than Fabfilter? || HoRNet Total EQ
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Hornet plugins are very good value for money, no frills, no fuss. Too bad I discovered them after dropping a ton of cash on other brands...Respect!
Same, I wish I would have known about them earlier and also would have less files so sort.....one shop stop, mostly.....
Glad to see Hornet gettin some attention.
Good tools.
Good prices.
Not to mention they seem to have sales every other week.
You can pick up 4-5 plugs for like $25.
Not bad.
@@jstarman01 Just picked this one up for like 7bucks. What a deal!
I think you forgot the most crucial difference: The Pro Q is about $180, whereas this thing is something more like $35. This difference alone will probably go to make the deduction for a lot of people, especially those who need to keep their spending in check.
I actually bought this for like.. 13 euros during a sale some time ago ^^'''
No oil sales are frequent.
Yep and often half off or more. Like at the time of me writing this it’s $16. Which is just totally bonkers for a plugin of this depth and such a awesome feature set. Hornet might be the most underrated dev of all time imho. I own pro-q3, and am going to buy this today just because I like the saturation stuff. Pro-a is the best for a lot of things but I can see myself reaching for total EQ especially for collaborations where I can ask someone to spent 16-30 bucks to use the same session plugs instead of $150.
Left-Right-Mid-Side too
@Ya boi Lol.. Fabfilter make amazing stuff but are grabbers. They are a premium brand hence the actions you describe and as I said money grabbers.
I’m looking forward to the all-pass filter video, please feel free to go in as much scientific detail as you can!
Yes!
Yes eagerly waiting
This might be the perfect eq. This has everything I’ve always wanted.
As far as I am aware, Hornet is pretty much one person.Which is amazing to me! Awesome video, will definitely check this eq out!
he's great - but updates and fixes need t happen faster.....and that's probably why.
Been using Hornet Plugins for at least two years now! Great useful tools at great prices.
IMO their best plugin is the Thirty One mk 2. Absolutely crushes at it's job
Literally just slap it on the mix buss and let it listen to your track and it will add so much air in the smallest bands that you would never think to make such small adjustments
I don’t own Fabfilter pro Q, so the price of this plug-in alone is reason enough to at least try it out for a couple of months (Fabfilter Pro Q being at around $150 last time I checked vs. $27 for this) Thanks for the review!
A couple things:
1. No it does not have a treshold knob for the dynamic eq part.. what it does is automatically calculate the "general" volume of the signal and then when the signal is too high compared to the general value (or too low if you want it to go up) it automatically lower (or rise) the signal in such a way to balance it out with the standard value of the entire signal (hope I managed to explain it well).
2. You should DEFINITLY try other Hornet plugins out.. there are a lot of really really peculiar plugins that can do amazing things... I'd suggest Tape and Thirtyone for some other looks.. expecially thirtyone would REALLY be worth a look :) Also.. The Normalizer could be very interesting to check out considering that it autogain your signal on CONTINUOUS mode every time you apply a change to it.. so to make an example: you set a specific level you want your volume at (either in peak, rms or lufs).. then add let's say a compressor before it.. compress the signal.. and the normalizer will AUTOMATICALLY push the volume back up at your decided value every time you make a change :)
I use the normalized on every track and every mix. The vu meter also gets lots of use as it can do gain staging as well
Hornet plugins are amazing and such good prices, I emailed the guy to say thanks for such brilliant work, the VU MK4 gain staging device is apparently really amazing.....
Dpmeter by tb pro audio is free and has all the metering you need
Love their stuff. All of their plugins are on sale up to 75% off the next couple days. Total EQ $8, Tape $6, Analog Stage $3, VU Meter $2, ChannelStrip $15 (SSL).
I use an all pass filter when my wife speaks to me
Hornet stuff is great, especially if your on a budget! I use The Normaliser on every mixer track for gainstaging. The autogain mkii for vocals or bass is awesome as well.
if you were to just use only Hornet plugins for your project , which would you choose ?
I own Total EQ; but have just discovered Toneboosters EQ-V4 which seems to do everything total EQ sets out to do - but do it better. If you follow the thead on KVR, you can see how far it's come since it's release. I just thought I would mention it; as I think it is a real contender IMO
HoRNet make some solid plugins in my experience.
I got this for 8 bucks. I am in heaven. Much thanks. I bought other plugins of course, especially the analog styles ones
Saverio os very good in coming up with plug in new ideas! Love Hornet!
Good to hear you back being your usual self. Not sure why I’m feeling this but, seems like your happier or some fing, as you would say… anyway… Got a few Hornets, auto gain, etc and good to see your eq review. Ps I’ll never buy chord midi pack tracks whatever, you tube no matter how many times you do the ad frenzy on me
Hornet plug-ins are pretty decent for the price. Really good results with the ones that I use. I definitely am thinking about picking this one up as well!
I've been using it for the last few weeks and think it's great. Good review and good to see you play around with it.
they have a graphic EQ plugin called Thirtyone that i just love and use loads
You have to review the auto gain plugins from them
They don't have copy protection, but there's a special user id code embedded in the vst that they can find if they download an illegally shared version. Then they will ban the account
The thing with Pultecs is, their filter stage is passive (i.e. they only take signal away) and the "warmth" comes from the active gain stage that's necessary to make up for all the level the filters took away. (If you boost the lows in a Pultec, you're actually taking away highs. And if you're boosting the highs, you're actually dipping the lows.) There were the original tube-based Pultecs, because back in the 60s/70s tubes simply were the cleanest way of amplifying and adding gain. Later, they also made a Pultec with a solid-state post-filter amplification stage, because the solid-state op-amps were so much cleaner and thus, at least back in the 80s. much more desirable in studios.
Also, the filters in a Pultec are not a serial sequence of individually compartmentalized filters, but rather arranged as a parallel setup, so that changing one filter would affect the filter responses of all other filters differently tham in a "regular" serial EQ.
1. Yes, i want to see a video about your opinion on allpass filters.
2. Linear-Phase EQing is useful for lowend layers, like when you construct a kick from 2 other kicks. but i know you're more of a mixing guy.
3. Yes, this plugin looks like it adds some nice features to normal eq plugins.
4. Have you tried Wavesfactory Spectre yet? It's also sort of a mixture between an eq and saturation but with a stronger focus on the saturation part and I think it's really cool.
I already own Fabfilter Pro Q3. Their entire suite is awesome. But this Hornet EQ, for 28 Euro's is insane value for money. At this very moment there is a one day sale going, 60% off, so right now you can grab it for 11euro. Exceptional for low budget.
Got a very smooth tone to it even when youre boosting frequencies by a lot... and a really good UI !!
Agreed. That was a welcomed surprise. VERY smooth
Eyyyy
That was a very fair review. Hornet is a good and honest company, so I think they deserve that. Cheers!
Great EQ, interesting and I think it’s a nice to have this usefully tool in the box
Wytse, the fact that you would rather run a sine wave through a plugin and click a lot of buttons than read the manual is a very good sign for your cognitive state! You think like a scientist and would rather do experiments, manipulating factors while empirically observing a dependent variable, holding other factors constant. This is the backbone of causal inference and the foundation of the Enlightenment! Bravo!
I'm a simple man, I see you post, I click
yes, me too :)
Hornet stuff is much cheaper, and more on sale, than Fabfilter. The dynamic filter in Total EQ is borrowed the automatic attack and release and the automatic threshold from the HoRNet DynEQ,
Yes, but no threshold control. Waves F6 has really good dynamic EQ but is not resizable and the UI is a pain having to go to the bottom. I think I'll spring for this - currently 11Euro!
@@RobinHowlatest versions of F6 are resizable (in fixed steps).
Please explain why allpass filters are good
You can use them to correct phase.
@@davidasher22 In specific frequency range! That's what makes it so special!☝
12:09 - you're really getting into your humorous stride. Not afraid to make fun of yourself. Great stuff 😊
Really a great bargain at around $7 USD right now. Thanks for your usual honest and practical take on it.
Its 11,20€!! In terms of bang for your buck and competing with FF it's bloody amazing! The UI needs some work, a bit more pop and some more love. But I'll take an underbaked UI to save $179 USD any day.
haven’t tried this one yet but their tape plugin is fantastic.
Yeaaah... i love the Total EQ, HoRNeT Tape, Analog Stage and a VU meter MK4, my next purchese will be Multicomp Plus MK2.
I always buy when there are discounts of 30%, 50% or 80%
Hornet plugins are brilliant and are great prices, I sent the guy an email the other day to say thanks for making such good products and the sale prices are even crazier.....
Here we have Skrillex himself reviewing HoRNet Total EQ.
Please review DSEQ by TB pro audio if you get some time! Thank you
Please release the all pass filter video. I`m curious about that.
It's hard to beat Hornet for the money. They also keep a sale going up to 50% off!
I know you are busy, but this video made me remember MdynamicEQ, which I quite like. Melda has a lot of plugins, some of them claim to have "analog" curves on them. It would be interesting to see a Snake Oil video of Melda Productions
You definitely should give a shot to Uvi shade :) I'm sure you'd be si priests, it's almost like a secret weapon
I like this. Curious to hear an A/B vs Fabfilter of the same settings as well. Maybe I will download the Demo and try it.
Now I also want to run a sine through my Pultec and find out what it does to the harmonics...
Ths EQ Loud is pretty much the same as FabFilter's "auto gain" which allows you you too make changes and not be fooled by loudness
I cannot believe you actually read the directions for once... NICE!!!
Just watched your video & bought the eq through your link because it was 50% off, I hope it’s an affiliate link so I get compensated a little bit, it was 13.99 euro idk what that is in US currency but I know it’s not much more than that, anyway I’m a big fan of fab filter products so I’m excited to see how this holds up against pro q3!
You're on fire with the vids lately.
Honestly, Hornet plugins are top shelf products, and most importantly, they are affordable. Go and look at their plugins, and you'll find something helpful that you will want to try.
Klevgrand got some amazing plugins imo. Hope to see your reviews on them someday!
I reckon the "Eq loud" function would be a great way to do Tilt EQ when you do low level monitoring.....
I have been watching since 3k subscribers and I just realised you look like Skrillex brother and it all makes sense now
The price and specs are very appealing, indeed!
Good video. I would love to see you review more Analog Obsession and Hornet plugins.
I went to their homepage and they had a few good reviews and some really bad ones so be careful ✌👍
ive been making videos for analog obsession plugins
I like VU meters myself, my ears are what I use to check for balance etc.
I wonder sometimes what direction modern software developers would take if Fab Filter plugins never existed. They are just so instantly recognisable. Not saying however that when people use their ideas to create something new its a bad thing, because in this instance this certainly looks interesting.
I was going to be the neckbeard Oversampling Police until I saw how mild the saturation is - and I suppose when it's that slight, oversampling is really going to make no difference at all except increasing CPU usage.
There is no "they" with Hornet. It's one guy and his vision. A lot of his plugins have gain compensation or leveling built in. The only problem is, because it's a small operation, there's a bit of a lag when there are updates in operating systems or DAWs. There are compatibility issues.
I can't confirm that (at least not for macOS). There are some "big" players that do not manage compatibility even 8 months after the final release of Big Sur and/or M1 processors.
He is reasonay fast actually
M1 support sorted faster than an oily fireman's pole.
Sorry for spoiling your next video 😀
For the readers: an Allpass filter alters the phase in a particular frequency range - which depends on your settings. Now ignite your fantasy what that could be great for ;-)
a lowpass filter (and all the other filters) also alter the phase in a specific range. the difference is that the allpass filter does so while trying to maintain the same spectral information
All-pass filter video would be SWEET
Your presentations are much improved….. well done
For those of you using Reaper you could also look up REEQ which is very fabfilterish and has the loudness compensation, mid-side, etc... it's free. ;)
It is a cool eq, but it does not do Dynamic EQ.
@@electricwhiterabbit Brain lapse your right it doesn't do dynamic, My bad, I was thinking about a different one for some reason. Agreed tho it is cool and I actually like it most for the mid-side, the loudness compensation and it's free. I'll do a quick edit thanks for pointing it out. :)
I love that his official logo has an unnecessary analog knob graphic. Poetic.
Maybe his logo is not an emulation plugin...Lol..just maybe
hornet tape is subtle and great, also it would be nice if u do a review of TDR plugins like kotelnikov.
Yeah, i also put a sinewave through plugins when i'm testing them.
Considering pultecs, i actually think it's mostly the phase response rather than saturation that's creating that sound, pultecs are really phasey. Too phasey for my taste actually.
All Melda and Hornet plugins have automatic gain stage functionality.
90% off for a limited time. I get it for 2€80, it's a steal
Seem like a good alternative for the wave F6 which I use a lot. I never could push myself to buy pro q.
Q 3 for me is confusing and it it’s hard to move the bands around
The movement is wonky to me
It looks like this EQ does cramp in the high end though. Check Dan Worralls "Whats Wrong With Stock Plugins? ReaEQ vs Pro Q3" if you haven't seen it.
What do you used for high end ? And on your high end bus
@@brianwynn10 you have a "high end buss" ?
The question is just if it does oversampling
@@gorf101 yes it help cut the vocal threw the mix, save it as a template
Hornet VU Mk3 and their Hornet Tape are worth every penny. I use the VU Mk3 on every track, every song, every time.
As others have commented, this dev makes some remarkably original and inexpensive tools. Please do review some more by them. 3 of my favs which I just bought are Analog Stage (based on your review), Syncpressor, and Thirty One mk2. Thirty One mk 2 is quite surprising, given that there are similar efforts by other more famous devs but without the spatial enhancement of this particular one. As a 31-band Auto EQ its meant to be used as a master bus fx. In Auto mode it smooths out the differences between neighboring bands and reduces masking. But in reality it also makes a track "pop" in 3D for some reason, maybe because the frequency regions it unmasks logically happen to be places that are not just dense in frequency but also in "side band" activity, so unmasking sound in that area adds stereo life as well? I don't know why Gulfoss or Teote or one of these other competitors doesn't quite have this effect, but to my ears they're different. And for less than $15-20 (with a demo) its just a no-brainer for me. One other plugin they make that I would recommend is Wah Wah, but I set the plugin wrapper (radio button) to turn on "fixed size buffers" - I think a few Hornet plugs may require this in FL Studio for some reason.
I'm with Scott Hazard's comment. Hornet is a great company with reasonably priced plugins, and their products, in comparing them to other Co's, is below those price lines, but ABOVE The Median Line in their Pricing.....also an honest company as someone else said. Been buying Hornet plugins for the last yr, now about 20 of them, none are disappointing. ONE "can't do without" vst from them is their VU Meter MK4, an AUTO Gain Staging device and goes well with their LU Meter MK2, a loudness meter. So between buying Hornet's, I am also buying Plugin Alliance and Izotope products, and will eventually WEAN myself away from the TON of Waves vst's I have, because of their Update Extortion Plan.
Thank you! That was me. Or probably someone else did it too, because many of their plugins are surprisingly good. Especially for the money!Curious as to if they are any good....pertaining to phase distortions, aliasing, and all that technical stuff. Because what I hate is when, say with Plugin Alliances new BXLimiter True Peak you set it to -.01 db, lufs or whatever....and you look at your primo meter, like Flux meters or Nugen Audio, and it says it's -.6 that's going over so your gonna get distortion. But on PA's TPL it shows no going over. So your fucked when you print your shit. On this plugin I do wish that with the saturation and analog options, it had a better oversampling option. I firmly believe that the higher sampling rates do prevent aliasing and all that jazz, because I've experienced it with Waves plugins on my old mixes at 44.1. They sound worse with all those plugins on them, than without any plugins on it! Back to the point though, I'd like to see more options like you said with the dynamic options for this plugin, as well as for the GUI as it's very limited! I'd pay an extra $20 for it to be more updated like ProQ3's GUI and Oversampling and phase options. For me they are essential on Mastering, and buss work when mixing! And any time you use saturation IMO you should always oversample because if you don't that could cause intersample distortion, aliasing and all that bullshit. But that's me. You won't hear these things on just 2 or 3 tracks. But they definitely add up when you have 90 channels of eq and all of them have aliasing, and whatnot to them(or more than 40% of them do). With those mixes it really does make a difference! Of course mixing at a higher sample rate, if your plugins can do this in the first place, can make the difference for you and keep this aliasing happening in the first place, but most people think it's bs! I always could tell the difference but could never explain it! Of course if it's just a few tracks you can't tell. It's the cumulative effect of a bunch of tracks all together like on a rock/alternative/metal/etc mix!
Stuffing the last ad in the last second of the video. Sneaky sneaky
It also reminds me of DMGs EQuick and it's bigger brother EQuilibrium! You should check those out if you haven't yet. I ditched PRO EQ because of them. I can't explain why exactly, but I better better results and faster!! The horizontal zoom navigation without needing to enlarge the plugin itself is a godsend.
Oh, and also less CPU-hungry than Fab's, which is quite an achievement. The name says it all: EQuick is FAST AF!
Several months back I left a snarky comment about sandstorm. At the time I was not wrong in my opinion as it was my opinion. since then it has grown on me and I have to say although I still agree with my original comment I also have to disagree with myself. I think the music has a lot to offer and it has shown it's versatility as a demonstration tool if nothing else. :)
If TOTAL EQ had controls for DynEQ and some linear phase stuff, ProQ could be dead in a future. is A LOT CHEAPER and it functionalities works as well as ProQ's
We really wanna see the Dutch and Dutch review
👀 this is worth a look! We need a Snake oil mention counter? 🤣
Mmmm Dynamic AllPass ...
Interesting 👍
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Assuming of course that it can do both simultaneously. 😉
Everything can be better than anything.
I bought the VUMeter to stream line my workflow for gain staging. For the price it was a steal.
Me too; €3.00 in the 50% sale: crazy!
You should check out the apQualizr2, a very flexible EQ and much more
Looks realy realy good, but do I realy need it? I have so many EQs, just like most of us. Its just another EQ and it does exactly the same thing all EQs do.. Equalize.
They are probably fighting more to be your first EQ than your most game changing. The game changing thing this has imo is how much of a steal it is, it really makes professional EQ accessible.
Don’t buy it then! 😀
Just bought this for $9. Labor Day sale + a random coupon Honey found.
Better than FabFilter for all I care.
I considered it, downloaded the demo, loaded it up in Plugin-Doctor, boosted highs - sadly it is cramping.
I’d like to see that All Pass filter video
Hej man, luv your videos 🔥 Very awesome content! Snake Oil especially my favorites. Keep up the great content & stay safe ✌️
Please review Toneboosters plugins, especially their EQ
is that a dutch & dutch 8c standing there waiting to be plugged in? or I'm imagining?
Seems pretty nice, but I already have proq3. Thanks for the review.
A bit sad that it has the same cramping issues as ReaEQ. Otherwise a very good EQ for the pricepoint!
Btw, just wanted to say that he has a VU-meter plug-in whit bar graphs :) It's called HoRNet VU-meter MK4. It also has auto gain where you can set the reference and maximum levels so it's absolutely perfect for automatic gainstaging. I've got it set as default chain for new tracks in Reaper with maximum set -14dB and auto engaged, so when I import tracks into a new project I just play it for about 30-40 seconds and when I hit pause/stop, auto is disengaged and all the tracks are gain staged pretty well.
The bell cramps, the shelf doesn't. So for super high end just use a shelf.
A/B cpu usage? Hornet Tape is really good!
next one Toneboosters EQ4
great eq for my ))
All pass filter vs bypass button? 😆 This looks like Garageband eq, i like how simple drags and lite interface. Absent the saturation feature- is this same as Dynamic Eq’s?
Hornet Tape is a nice plugin as well!
I asked earlier what song/track this is, incase it exists somewhere so I can listen to it. After watching your other videos, I finally get what you man by calling your tracks Darude by Sandstorm, lol. Didn't make sense at first until I saw you mentioning it in all your videos. Needless to say I even looked up the real song by Sandstorm as was like wtf, lol. Despite this, if this track is available somewhere, I'd like a link if possible. If not and its private, no problem. I like those kind of jams.