Armor Review: Armstreet Brigandine - The Common Man's Plate
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2018
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This is an interesting type of armor, basically the footsoldier's cheaper alternative to a plate harness. It's not very heavy and provides excellent protection, and it doesn't need to be perfectly fitted to the wearer the way that a knight's suit of armor does.
This is also the closest historical equivalent to what is referred to as splint / splinted armor in roleplaying games.
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Развлечения
"It's alright, I'll survive."
-Famous last words of Skallagrim Nilsson, before being accidentally murdered by Cara using an axe.
Vampyses II “Accidentally”
This but a scratch!
Actually he’s got a fair sized bruise on his head I’m kind of curious where he got it from...
@@forrestdorman4870 Well that was a Monty Python reference.
I mean it's not that hard to miss a bit above and hit the head, and even worse, a bit below and hit ... Well ugh... You know...
Skall playing Blackjack in vegas:
"Hit me"
"16"
"Harder"
"22"
"I felt that"
----------------------
Skall drinking at pub afterwards.
"Vodka Martini? Are you sure?"
"It's all right, I survive."
*Drinks*
"That's too light"
*Drinks a stronger drink*
"Yep. I can feel that".
Dancing Phycisist Habibi this is the next meme.
Skall shooting the Reaver Cleaver:
"hit me"
*shoots it with a .22*
"harder"
*shoots it with a 7.62*
*it breaks*
"i felt that"
This got a chuckle out of me.
make "I felt that" the new Skall meme
@@GlitchDoctor does that mean "end him rightly" has been ended rightly?
This style of armor is most likely the cause of the "studded leather armor" myth
and on other hand is criminally underutilized and crapped on in RPGs just because it was cheaper to make and thus used by common soldiers ... except as Skall accurately put it, the brigandine was the next best thing to full plate armor while being MUCH less restrictive than full plate and weighting a hell of a lot less too
You have to bear in mind that brigandine wasn't used alone, so you can't compare it to full plate since it could also be used with a plate kit for the more wealthy soldiers and even nobles who had their own state-of-the-art brigandine. Also it really doesn't seem that lighter than a cuirasse, I mean instead of a steel plate it's a bunch of iron plate covering the same amount of surface but studded to leather/cloth, that doesn't sound like it would be much lighter.
Asghaad im pretty sure alot of rpg's out there are not focused on reality
The plates of the Brigandine overlap and cause the additional weight compared to a single breastplate & backplate. So full plate weights less if both made out of the same metal gauge.
Studded leather is 100% Gygax & friends looking at a brigandine and not realizing the "studs" are rivets holding in the platelets. They weren't exactly historical experts -- what's "banded mail" supposed to be, anyway?
When your mum dresses you before going out.
Nikko x XD
This cracked me up
Nikko x the accuracy is unreal
I knew it was downhill when my mum stopped dressing me at 3.
When your mom swings an axe into your gut.
Anyone else liking the sound of plate and mail armor pieces rattling around? That's like a white noise or something
you should get a recording and play it at night to lull you into sleep. I like the sound too ha ha.
Medieval Asskicking Roleplay (ASMR)
It's quite soothing
There is something very satisfying about it... It's like just hearing the metal rattling around makes me feel a little more impervious.
Plate armor, exactly my thing!
It is so cool to hear a metal sound when a sword hits what looks like fabric. Seriously, that's my jam.
You Know IKR XD
You know how cops are always saying bullet proof vests don't work against knives? Just have them wear a brigandine over the top.
TheAegisClaw stab proof vests are basically that
Jim Ticka the ones I've seen just have a single plate on the chest, nowhere near as much protection or any articulation.
What they should do is just put the layer of brigandine over the vest.
I think not so long ago in Germany, special anti-crowd forces or something like that were wearing chainmail to avoid getting stabbed, mainly by the Syrian immigrants (I think).
Hanthome plate armor+ bulletproof vest anti riot?
Skall watches a sad movie: "Yep, I felt that."
"Hey Cara, grab that pommel over there, and hit me with it" - Chest Explodes
Steve Richardson "Yep, I felt that" XD
Ser Eric I see what you did there XD
Steve Richardson end him rightly
What's the safe word?
I think you meant "chest implodes into a black hole"
3:41 famous last words.
"Its ok I'll survive"
"Harder"
Literally what EVERY RUclipsr that dies says before dying.
MJY that’s what that guy said before his girlfriend shot a dessert eagle point blank at his chest a while
Back
Henry’s come to see us!
God save you, Henry! 😂
Justin Jesus Christ be praised
Jesus Christ be praised.
I feel quite hungry.
I'm feeling quite hungry
Turnip.
It was actually pretty adorable how Cara didn't want to hit you even though she knew you'd probably be fine.
Damn, Skall, that gambeson looks like it was made by the North Face! I’d totally wear that for my winter coat.
It was stylish too. Maybe Skall will start a new fashion trend.
heheh, "new"
At one point I actually was going to order a gambeson and use it as a winter coat as well because it looked like a thick leather jacket. I mean, it looked pretty nice so why not? No one would suspect what a massive geek I'm being by wearing my medieval armor around town, and I could walk around feeling that much safer!
Funny enough, I actually wear a gambeson as a winter jacket. Looks really awesome and you definetly never feel cold. :D
chris maggiora IIRC that was done historically; I imagine most people didn't have big wardrobes then, so if you had a layered/padded garment, why not put it on. Also IIRC some were wool, which obviously helps with warmth. There were civilian and military coats, jackets, tunics, and caps made of wool well into the 20th century of course.
Please note: The Armstreet version you showed there is very expensive for its level of quality.
I have a similar quality one from Steel Mastery in Europe for less than HALF the price for example.
I’m getting mine from steel mastery to soon, How did you like yours? In terms of fit and quality
@@NordicEagleVids Unless you've already gone and bought it Andrey galevskyi makes significantly better and more historically accurate ones for better prices than either armstreet or steel mastery (both of who are over priced and essentially make costume armour)
@@halfdangrafeldt7239 Yeah this one is really shitty lmao
@@Ulfheodin Yes, this armstreet one isn't great. I'm getting mine from Ash at Armour Services Historical. He is probably the best brigandine maker there is and he is very sought after so his waiting times are pretty extreme. As far as authenticity and quality goes, his are arguably the best you can get. But they are very expensive though, worth it!
Honestly, everyone saying how bad the quality is on this one shows how effective they really are.
We need more Cara, they are the best medieval dude bro.
The solar plexus still being able to be hit hard enough to knock the wind out of you with this armor reminded me of the shape, positioning, and function of trauma plates in modern ballistic armor.
The clanging sound is weirdly satisfying.
Justin Y. fuck you are here too
Justin Y. Wtf are you doing here now?
Stfu
Nice to see you here.
where do you find the time to write so many comments
This might be heresy but I'd love to see a bow vs brigandine thing.
I figure a good, heavy-draw bow would probably be one of your best bets for getting through this thing; since high-velocity bolts or arrows and particularly well-thrown spears/ javelins might bend in the edges of an internal plate or two and continue on into the gambeson or even meat...
Tbh, my money would be more on the crossbow than any period bows; though modern bows would obviously have a better chance.
BoojumFed completely agree.
@BoojumFed Skallagrim actually had done the test in his another video (ruclips.net/video/XMT6hjwY8NQ/видео.html), using 1000 lbs windlass crossbow shoot the Lamellar and Solid plate. Both gears successfully defeated the heavy bolt while the cord used to connect small piece plates of Lamellar broke after received heavy strike.
That's the reason why riveted armor (Coat of plate, Brigandine and Russian Kuyak) gradually replaced old corded lamellar armor not only in Europe but also in many asian countries such as China and Korea. China still use these type of armor during First Opium War.
Tod's Workshop has episodes about arrows vs plate and brigandine armors, shields of different types etc
3:30-4:45 Is that how your foreplay looks like? ;P
damic lol
"thats okay" .... "harder" .... "i felt that"
Typical foreplay.
I wonder if their neighbors got used to hearing that.
harder
Skall "Was it good?"
Cara "a little bit disturbing actually..."
Thank you Skallagrim for the shoutout. I loved the outtakes.
3:14 "And then we get wenches" can we have that on a T-shirt?
First immortality, then the wenches
Skall gets hit with a sword
"Harder"
Pommel is unscrewed, thrown, and a nuclear explosion happens
"I felt that"
The waist taper is absolutely critical, even flexible armors like mail and brigandine become far more nimble when belted at the waist to put weight on the hips. Otherwise it becomes more of a flak jacket haha
this must be the first post-apocalyptic setting I ever heard from, that actually takes place after the apocalypse.
In the apocalypse, God Wins. Apocalypse is an Epiphany of a glorious future.
The villagers are being raised by demons. I mark that settlements location on your map. Edit:RAIDED autocorrect can suck my cucumber.
"Raided", perhaps "razed" though usually that applies to buildings and such, not people.
Villagers "raised" by demons is hilarious though:
Child - "Daddy, when can we have dinner?"
Demon - "Only 20 more minutes of torturing this man and then we'll take a break. If you're a good little girl we'll cook his liver and eat it with some fava beans and a nice Chianti!"
Child - "Yaaay!" *starts torturing harder*
Shut up, Preston! You know what? Be my companion, that way the demons will leave as soon as we arrive out of fear of your incessant nagging!
How kind of them to help bring up the children they orphaned
Skall who hit you on the head??
You got a yellow spot on your left side of the forehead D:
1337CaptainHadock Apparently he was assaulted by exercise equipment.
1337CaptainHadock ohhh you see it too, maybe Kara swing and miss... LoL
Does he live in the US? He has the right to shoot everybody in the vicinity if so.
TuAFFalcon Nope, he lives in Canada.
he was ended rightly
Oooh! It was really cool getting to see the innards of it and how it holds up to getting smacked!
In the whole 2 games that ever utilize Brigandines, they are always represented as light, cloth-like armor.
You never really get to see or hear the plates and how hefty it really is underneath the cloth padding, ye know?
(Speaking of which, I agree with the other comments; The sound of steel plates moving is immensely satisfying!)
That is... kind of weird BDSM... still very interesting video! :D
canadians are strange people
Now i know what to wear in case of another crusade
Mr. Radeni DEUS VULT!
The armour of God, you heretic!
Jon De Oliveira - He must wear both, if he is to survive such an onslaught!
I would have to one up it. I dont wanna get killed by no religious people.
A modern crusade would be just guns, that aint gonna save u
3:53
"That's too light"
(After recording)
*BABE, CALL THE HOSPITAL!*
I always loved the look of the brigandine.
Very good video. I like the brigandine, and may have to acquire one. I already have a lorica segmentata, which seems to provide equivalent protection, and practically identical weight. The shoulder/collarbone protection seems a little better for the lorica, and bending at the waist pushes the lower segments up, but then gravity brings it back down immediately. Throwing a pilum or javelin requires you to throw almost sidearm, due to the overlapping plates on the shoulder. I don't know if you've done a video with the lorica segmentata, but I think it would be an interesting one. Thanks for making educational and very entertaining videos!
'It's pretty easy to put on, just slip it over your head' and then has a battle putting it on xD hahaha
He may had said that comparing to other armor that is :P
I don't know if it would be the same, but for a mail shirt, I put it on the ground, slip my arms in and raise it over my head. Gravity does the rest.
Maybe don't compare armor to sweatshirts? :)
How can you not compare them when they say "Under Armour" on them? ;^)
BoojumFed boooo
Anyone else find themselves waiting for the "Ow" right after he mentions that the armor likes to eat hair and proceeds to put it on over his tail.
I was expecting it but it never came.
Yah, schadenfreude foiled..... :)
His tail is one thing, it might break off strands before actually pulling hard enough to hurt. His beard on the other hand, those hairs are as strong as copper, they hurt like hell when yanked out.
I get it alot from my viking beard in metal or plastic armor (stupid mandalorian armor)
I really really appreciate every armor reviews you cover up now that I can see the inside that usually can't be seen. I knew I can just searched up on google if I wanted to see the inside but they are all images! With this format being 3d and moving while you explained it I can better understand them. So ya, thanks again.
What skall wanted to say
“You help me get in my armor, I’ll help you out of yours.”
Skall, and everyone who reads, i have to say. For what it delivers, this armor is EXTREMELY overpriced.
Yes, this is quite decent stainless steel, it is decently made, and the fabric base is made quite well.
There are quite a few flaws with it.
First, it had limited protection from the side, and the collar bone is EXTREMELY exposed.
Secondly, the fitting is lackluster to say the least. It has literally no taper at the waist, which is necessary for ease of movement.
Third, it is very short. It protects very poorly against strikes that are lower than the belly button.
Fourth, there is no fitting for the back. The armor can be worn from both sides, whereas historically accurate(and proper sporting stylizations) are supposed to be worn one way only with reinforced plates on the back.
Lastly, as I mentioned before, COST.
Right now it costs 1500$. HOLY WATERMELONS IS THAT A LOT FOR A SUIT OF ARMOR THAT ONLY PROTECTS THE TORSO AND IS NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE. You will not feel it while standing or walking, but as soon as you spar, come problems. You feel like you are in a barely mobile iron box. The restrictions are deadly, proper brigandine armor should not restrict movement at all or barely.
If you want to buy something really good in terms of sporting quality-Steel Shop is a VERY good option. A Wimbledon-style brigandine costs 150-240$, has precise fit, excellent taper, FUCKAWESOME steel and does not restrict movement at all. It is located in Russia, so you may have to pay a lot extra to have it delivered to Europe, but is is worth your money. If you want historical accuracy, it is up to you, as all shops have different good and bad sides. Steel Shop's is that they use synthetic fabric as inner base for their armor. Upper layer is wool however, so it is not noticeable.
I may give you a link to their shop if you want to
I wonder if they ever made any hybrid Brigandine and plate styles, where the sternum area and chest have a thicker larger plate with the small plates all around it.
yes we do
gimme a moment and ill find the examples
there are! The expensive brigandines even had lance rests at the right big plate!
Look up the Bamberg Cathedral carving.
I believe they did. I've seen examples, here and there, of what I think are early sets of plate armor and their cuirasses are made from multiple steel plates. By that I mean, instead of a single piece of steel for either the main part of the breast and back plate, each half is made of at least 3 or 4 pieces of steel overlapping vertically.
Thank you all for the replies! I did some more searching and have found a few images that look to be historical pieces or in the very least reproductions of a historical design with larger plates in the chest and sternum area both multiple and singular plate variants.
Great review; the sound of the plates rolling is way satisfying.
I have the same gambeson that you're wearing in this video. Very pleased with the quality of work and currently working on a welded stainless steel shirt to go over it.
I've always wanted you to review a brigandine
"This takes place in a post-adpocaliptic world"
I'm very excited that you eventually get & test the most common but also misunderstanded armor in Middle Age. I comprehend that it is a quite expensive gear, however, I do really hope u can test it with windlass crossbow similar as your previous test on lamellar & Solid plate armor.
I really enjoyed this armor review. Hopefully more come!
"And after we get wenches"
"I can live with that"
And now we know how Skal and Cara keep it interesting.
Also, ouch, Skal's got a nasty bump on his head, did Cara miss?
Shes so afraid if hurt skall owww
Brigandine can be used in combination with spaulders to protect the shoulders, vambraces to protect the forearms, gauntlets, gorget to protect the neck and a helm for the head. Include greaves and you have armor for a foot soldier or man-at-arms.
Thanks for You videos. It's very useful for knowledge.
Jesus mate, even I was worried by watching this. Talk about commitment to the nerd cause. Great vid!
Nah, I have read a reporter doing the same with a bullet proof business suit.
Hopefully Armstreet will take into consideration your review and issues with the forward motion of your shoulder pivot being unable to effectively use your arms at a 90 degree angle directly in front of you. I also agree with the use of straps. I have a feeling they went with lacing to cut down their own costs.
If they fix the arm rotation issue with later versions it would definitely improve the use of that model.
Azumazi cut the fabric underneath the armpits should work fine or make a weave rather than a piece of full gambason.
Based on the plates location near the armpit from the website, you would have to trim those plates as well. Depending if it's 1050 Spring Steel or 1010-1018 Mild Steel can make that difficult. It's most likely 18 gauge sheet though from how it dented from that mace impact.
Azumazi They just need to make it smaller overall: Narrower chest to allow arm movement, narrower waist to make body motion easier, shorter or narrower front skirt to not get folded awkwardly when moving legs or riding. It's basically one size too big (or it gets right size once washed!).
Yeah, you're pretty much right, They really just need to take point on either a standard Cuirass frontal, or do like what the Milanese did with some of their Brigandine's and have a section of over lapping plates at that go around the outer edge that bend outward so you can move your arms forward but they offer a bit more protection around the frontal shoulder.
Love the content man.
You two are great together...so funny! Love the shows man.
Do you think you could review the Elmslie Typology? Edit: Autocorrect is absolutely evil.
Dude, for that price what the brigandine alone costs you get almost a full plate suit (brigandine chest, not plate chest) from Buhurt Tech. That's grossly overpriced and historically way off for that money.
Not to mention the shoulder lacing is a horrible, horrible idea.
Yup, also for that price I very much expect a piece of armour to be spotless, which means strong leather straps, no loss of agility (like this one) and historical accuracy. Skal kinda dropped the ball on this one as it would be a joke of an armour for half that price, let alone for this amount.
Nice presentation.Thank you.
Gets hot under my Kevlar daily. Sweating buckets this summer!
I don't think I trust anyone as much as Skall trusts that brigandine.
Omg it costs 1000$
cheaper than maille/mail
@@xirensixseo i got a riveted shirt from kult of athena for 220... maybe that brand's mail is more expensive but...
well i mean thats just a mail shirt, mail armor is more than that
@@xirensixseo yeah? and this brigandine covers less area than a mail shirt at 5x the cost so... (a mail shirt is mail armor, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant full body coverage)
if you are gonna go with the logic of full body coverage you will still need all the mail that this shirt doesn't cover (either custom sleeves or an actual shirt to cover the arms, legs and a coif for the head)
just checked Kult of athena, the price has gone up to 350+, i did double check my receipts though and i did get it for the mid 200s.
glad i wasted my money then and not now....
one of your better videos good job :)
I'm glad I found this, I'm about to embark on a bespoke copy of the leeds brigandine.
Studded armor. Finally :D
This is not studded armor, rather lamellar stuff ;)
Lamellar is scales without backing. This is brigandine, with metal scales riveted to a coat. (and to round it out, scale armor is usually considered to be scales over a backing)
Studded armor is gygax & co. misinterpreting the rivets on brigandine as somehow actually improving the leather's ability to deflect an attack, not as attachment points. So calling a brigandine "studded armor" is a joke. Now that I've officially killed the joke, I hope it was actually informative to do so.
I'm willing to bet he's kidding
Something tells me your witty sarcasm is going to trigger a lot of autism. Prepare your butthole Mister Stiller.
r/wooosh
Shad showed us that in paintings a lot of Nobility were shown wearing combinations of brigandine and plate armors.
Thank you for this O Bearded One, following the link to this armor has allowed me to finally find someone that carries costume pants in my size.
It's a good-looking piece of kit, and it's in my favorite color! I'm definitely going to have to take a look at this!
Dont...it sucks
From the thumbnail I thought this was another video with lindybeige
The shaping is terrible. There's no trifoil pattern on the rivets (depending on the date it might not be a problem). You mentionned the laces instead of straps, the plates don't overlap on the sides and shoulders because of that. The only good thing is that the plates seem to overlap under the fabric. This brigandine is low quality for almost the price of a custom made, hand forged breastplate. It's almost a scam at this point.
Custom-made breastplates actually cost less than this shite.
@Krok Krok "Almost a scam", and yes it is horribly overpriced for what it is.
Would definitely call it a scam, plenty of great polish, Russian and Ukrainian smiths who'd give you a damn masterpiece for that crazy price
@@halfdangrafeldt7239 I am Polish.
@@mrmoth26 Congrats?
Awesome video my dude just awesome
Great combo 😎 plus the chain mail and you are practically a tank in the battlefield 👍👍
1300... I could buy a cuirass for that much.
Yes, the Cuirass from age of craft is the same price.
For that price i expect that to be battle ready.
I just love the clicking sound. The armor looks really good. If only I had the money for it.
Lol I liked the bloopers at the end haha
The lacing on the side is much more adjustable for different body sizes and shapes, so historical garments for women often laced that way to allow it to still fit during pregnancy. If mass producing armor, side lacing could make the same piece fit more customers.
I'd actually rather wear this than full plate
David Hanselvunth why?
I also want to know why.
What about the rest of your body?
it is more flexible and comfortable but
its not nearly as good eagainst stuff like
lances
pollaxes
crossbows
firearms
breastplates generally have more protection for a given level of quality because of their rigid shape, it also makes you less abl;e to be hurt by high impact weapons, less trauma under the armour
elgostine plate armor can be deceitfully flexible and mobile.
You two have an extraordinarily trusting relationship.
3:34 That childishly gleeful face xD
"Tis but a scratch!"
Don't know about the quality of the manifacturing but it's not historically accurate for both shape and lacing. It depends on what century you are looking at, but in the XV century (as the survivals you show) brigandines had roughly the same shame of plate harness. For that price Age of Craft ones look more historical accurate. And btw it was used by common soldiers but olso men at arms
I've seen a few historical barrel chested ones. but it had a better overall shape that Skall already pointed out wrong with this one. The top of the shoulders looks so uncomfortable.
Adrenaline, I don't think is enough to keep a muscle from getting stunned. Or a person fighting without being able to breathe.
Ninja Hombrepalito you could power through a stun or being knocked out of breath for at least a follow through on an attack or a back step/dodge
Adrenaline can let you ignore pretty much anything in large enough quantities.
It really depends on what kind of hit you take and how precise it is. I've had matches where I got kicked squarely in the balls, *knew* it was going to hurt, but went on for another two minutes without issue only to crumple as I was walking off the mat after shaking the opponent's hand. On the other hand, I've had sparring sessions where I took a good liver shot and no matter how amped up I was, I couldn't keep from doubling over. Adrenaline _definitely_ increases your ability to shrug off blows that would have been debilitating if you were just standing next to your friend at a party and he decided to jab you in the ribs.
bro you have no idea people run 3 blocks after being shot several times because of adrenaline ...in shock sometimes you dont feel anything
there are soldiers that went back after battle and didnt know that they missed a big chunk of head
Cin that’s more shock than adrenaline. Victims of car crashes also walk around sometimes,even if they are badly hurt
great vid.. it would be cool to see how these are made
Nice and early! Wonderful!
ey im early + how dja manage that bruise on ya head skall??
Astro Polski Same
He hit his head on an exercise machine in the gym, he said that on his latest live stream
Jesteś z Polski?
Skall, with all these armours, that seem to be so effective against swords, why did people bother wearing them in battle? Can a swordsman pose any threat? Is there a consistent way of defeating armour with a sword?
Le Chevalier Errant that’s why most people didn’t bring swords into battle. Most carried axes, maces, or even just bludgeons and flails
Yeah, thats what I thought, but in works of art, knights are often depicted with their swords. I guess it could be artistic exaggeration, since swords are more befitting of a noble than a other weapons...
You can in theory stab through these... But that would still not be easy
Swords are just side arms main arms are pole arms, bows, mace etc.
Just as Modern military don't use their pistol as a main weapon.
I imagine you should look for gaps in the armour, and mainly thrust. That`s what I hear everyone say, but the reason why I asked the question in the first place is because it seems to be so difficult to do that in the heat of battle.
New to your channel. Like your style.
Beautiful armor!
My understanding of brigandines is that a lot of them were front closed so a common man could put it on with little help.
Katabolic that’s how mine is at least.
Wonder when Skall will be able to get a full suit of plate...
VSKKG he scrapped the idea a while ago
Just meaning in the far future, since I know how expensive they are.
He used to have the arms and legs parts. Not sure if he still does.
I know, I remember when he got the grieves. It is definitely not something any time soon, either way. He would want to get a full set instead of just multiple parts from various manufacturers.
We should make a fundraiser
"It's dented, but I don't care."
*Dies Inside*
"It's really easy to put it on"
*Struggles for a good while, rattling away like mad, finally having the brigandine face the right way*
The fact that it doesn't tapers on the natural waist makes it look cheat and crappy. And aye, most of it's issues come from the lack of it.
And, I'm thicker than Skall and I can still fir a waisted armour piece, almost anyone can, we don't tend to accumulate fat in that line unless one's really obese.
What is its AC and DEX penalty?
Probably equivalent to any other breastplate or even "banded mail" when worn with arm and leg protection.
Or you could go the other route and say, studded leather exists because Gygax & co saw a brigandine and didn't know what it was, so it's studded leather.
But unlike studded leather, a brigandine also has a bunch of plates. So it should be higher AC than studded leather in my opinion.
Studded leather doesn't exist. Gygax saw a brigandine, didn't realize there were plates inside, and came up with studded armor as an explanation for what he saw. It's entirely fictional.
I. Know.
Then why comment, when my first sentence already covered how effective a real brigandine would be in D&D and shows that I know the difference too?
That moment when you put on your brigandine and see its tag.
"Backwards again, dammit."
i love to see you two together
Good stuff
ffuts dooG
I could tell at first glance from your video, that it's mediocre at best. I got really an eye to spot cheap work and poor fitting. The cutout at the arms and the waist do not fit at all. Moreover, armour plates on historical examples tended to differ significantly in size and thickness.Where you needed mobility, the plates would be smaller and where you were most likely to get hit and had most to lose if hit armour plates were the strongest. At times, it was two big plates covering most of your lungs.
I really like brigandines. They were more flexible and easier to store and repair (compared to both mail and plate). Cuts can be stitched, lost plates can be replaced on the field either by stitching, or by using brass rivets (for mail, you would need iron rivets and thus a forge!). Regarding work obtaining a custom fitted brigandine was definitely cheaper than a mail coat or breastplate. Don't underestimate the work that has to go into making these! A brigandine could be basically made by any tailor who had access to premade plates and rivets.
i doubt it's properly fitted to skal, and more likely an off the shelf fit
matthew hurley He did say that he sent them his measurements, though
I doubt that Skall would know how to send the measurements correctly. I'm not talking him down, I'm just telling you that it's far more difficult than it sounds. Even pro's often make paper cutouts, which they then tape together to see if it actually fits the person wearing it!
That way you can avoid problems like the limited mobility of the arms.
Iron isn't hard to mushroom. You'd need a good rock if anything.
It looks stainless to me, which is more expensive, but that brig is more expensive than most of the titanium ones which average out at about $700-900 for a much better fitted brig with proper straps.
5:37 in some pieces of art, I remember seeing soldiers with Bevor and helmet as the only full plate component of their armor, and the rest of the body probably protected by a Brigandine and a gambeson. that would overcome this issue.
Kingdom come deliverance has taught me a lot about armor! Especially brigandine!
Im just a foot soldier i cant afford this kind of armor
Even a XVth century footman could afford this.
Armstreet is too fucking overpriced
I know i have a gambeson Mail coif and helmet my weapon is spear
The imperial Inquisition i know
Dank Bullet i have one
Woah skall, you let your SO beat you? Damn that’s kinky...
ReDaCtEd UnHiNgEd SO?
another ranger, "significant other", I guess.
I have a personal love for Brigandine, they generally just look amazing, and as you say, cheaper to make and not as precise in size, but still offers good protection.
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