Awesome tier list! As a Demon Slayer main, you pretty much nailed it. -A huge thing too is that with the current support meta and how timeleap is being used for pally res, timeleap will also reset Dark Meta CD which is huge for the 10-s -idk if im playing wrong but I only time our v4, Demon Bane, with DS4. I see V1-V3 as spammable. Something that isn't really mentioned in this podcast that I like to add is how a lot of these classes can move up or down depending on how you play the game. Multiplayer bossing was covered here, but say some1 wants to tackle solo bossing, classes with multiple s, passive healing, active healing, and just overall good skill kits are definitely SSS imo.(solo play ofc) As with any tier list tho, take as a grain of salt because this is like the highest theoretical, and most likely not applicable to most real bossing situations unless we somehow get longer binds/stuns to really let it all out on the boss.
Yeahhhh TL with dark meta so helpful and yeah v4 with ds4 is main priority (also an which is huge) But yeah tiers list really depends on what you’re looking for. Solo content list could be much different
Your point about NL is absolutely right. We had to get close with the boss. But if 1 thing could be better is, Four Season get an even for short is enough. Because the NL survivality is too sucks hahaha.
Hi Echo, great video content. I still think that Sia is Awesome after the nerf, looking at Warns my idol with the damage output in Hard Damien is just insane. No doubt Sia is top 10 class.
SSS+ tier content as usual, nice work!! Love the detailed explanation! Would you be able to make a aggro dps rank list for Hdamien based on the records shared amongst the full A60 aggro? Curious which class will come top.
Why is fpm lower than ilm when fpm has all of the benefits that you mentioned for ilm? all of fpm's vskills are short cd skills (25s) that line up well with burst windows, and they have more lines than ilm
cant disagree that fpm is very good. ilm just a tier better according to the data we have (and theres a fpm in eu that has full 60s). ilm has the highest culvert score in the game with their below average line count and if i were to guess i think it has to do with dot dmg vs on-demand burst?
@@EchoMSM thanks for sharing your insight! fpm has a lot of dot too (the class mechanics are designed around stacking dots), but sadly a lot of our lines come from ignite which is hard maintain uptime in practical situations
In your opinion, will Phantom get hit with heavy nerf someday? It's crazy to see how op Phantom class is in MSM when PC ver. Phantom has been one of the weakest classes for years.
I played this game back on day 1 on pc maple when it came out and you had to buy 10$ cards haha and FM was poppin. Tried mobile and played for a bit but quit but I’m comin back! What would u recommend for someone new. I have exp with old school maple. I want something where if I learn to master is OP. Something that takes skill to play
Awesome tier list! As a Demon Slayer main, you pretty much nailed it.
-A huge thing too is that with the current support meta and how timeleap is being used for pally res, timeleap will also reset Dark Meta CD which is huge for the 10-s
-idk if im playing wrong but I only time our v4, Demon Bane, with DS4. I see V1-V3 as spammable.
Something that isn't really mentioned in this podcast that I like to add is how a lot of these classes can move up or down depending on how you play the game. Multiplayer bossing was covered here, but say some1 wants to tackle solo bossing, classes with multiple s, passive healing, active healing, and just overall good skill kits are definitely SSS imo.(solo play ofc)
As with any tier list tho, take as a grain of salt because this is like the highest theoretical, and most likely not applicable to most real bossing situations unless we somehow get longer binds/stuns to really let it all out on the boss.
Yeahhhh TL with dark meta so helpful and yeah v4 with ds4 is main priority (also an which is huge)
But yeah tiers list really depends on what you’re looking for. Solo content list could be much different
Your point about NL is absolutely right. We had to get close with the boss. But if 1 thing could be better is, Four Season get an even for short is enough. Because the NL survivality is too sucks hahaha.
That be so good actually.
This video stroking all them phantom mains ego through the roof!
LMFAOOOO THEY ALREADY ARE THROUGH THE ROOF
Finally! 🎉🎉
I've been waiting for post v4 class tier list
Yessirrrrr
Hi Echo, great video content. I still think that Sia is Awesome after the nerf, looking at Warns my idol with the damage output in Hard Damien is just insane. No doubt Sia is top 10 class.
He’s the one who told me it was where it’s ranked lol. He’s OP tho.
SSS+ tier content as usual, nice work!! Love the detailed explanation! Would you be able to make a aggro dps rank list for Hdamien based on the records shared amongst the full A60 aggro? Curious which class will come top.
Currently it’s sephyr wa I think haha but hopefully we get enough data soon. Not enough aggros for all classes haha
@@EchoMSM sephy the goat
Why is fpm lower than ilm when fpm has all of the benefits that you mentioned for ilm?
all of fpm's vskills are short cd skills (25s) that line up well with burst windows, and they have more lines than ilm
cant disagree that fpm is very good. ilm just a tier better according to the data we have (and theres a fpm in eu that has full 60s). ilm has the highest culvert score in the game with their below average line count and if i were to guess i think it has to do with dot dmg vs on-demand burst?
@@EchoMSM thanks for sharing your insight! fpm has a lot of dot too (the class mechanics are designed around stacking dots), but sadly a lot of our lines come from ignite which is hard maintain uptime in practical situations
In your opinion, will Phantom get hit with heavy nerf someday? It's crazy to see how op Phantom class is in MSM when PC ver. Phantom has been one of the weakest classes for years.
Yeee LLAMADADDY making the vid 🎉 best cannonner NA
lol he was super helpful. And he needs to post more content thaha
just what i needed
Yessirrrr
Aran is quite difficult for farming and boss ? Do you recommend for play?
really depends on your playstyle tbh.
Night lord are insane ❤
Soo insane actually
Would you RR to phantom if you are a thief class?
i personally like db shad and nl over phantom. but phantom very good. all thief classes good tbh.just whichever one fits your playstyle
thank you
Thanks bob
I played this game back on day 1 on pc maple when it came out and you had to buy 10$ cards haha and FM was poppin. Tried mobile and played for a bit but quit but I’m comin back! What would u recommend for someone new. I have exp with old school maple. I want something where if I learn to master is OP. Something that takes skill to play
lol mmmm all classes are good and have decent skill to them.
Will you be making content on solo bossing?
What you looking for specifically?
wait sorry if i missed it, but where does dawn warrior sit in the tier list now 😅
Check the list lol
One of the skills i might of miss it. You mentioned something wisdom that phantom can steal. Can you tell me the name again im looking for it.
Freud of wisdom is the v2 skill.
What ur think about DK ??
Top dps in a Will clear
Phantom is way too op
Only phantom weakness is honor guild battle but actually not that weak
Sooooo good
funny thing is phantom is one of the weakest class in Maplestory PC
I heard. Different games