This game is going to lose a good chunk of its player base if they don't fix anything. Players are still out here making a choice to ruin the game. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I'm convinced people in online ranked are going on a power trip because they're losers in real life. I'll be playing Tekken until they patch this stuff
@@IeremiasMoore-ElI bet u probably one of those weird ass cheesy players that were born after 2008 that can’t have fun on the game and just wanna cheese and exploit the game all day lol… what he said it’s right the game is good but the players are ruining the game experience for everyone.. androids, dr wheelo, giants, ki spammers and so on
@@Ryuma103desiresboth are at fault, the players know what they’re doing, majority of these people run scummy shit on games for the sole purpose of making people mad
@@Notfakeultra I think those just wanna win because it's ranked tbh and cheese is the best way to go about I see the best players in this game so far just cheesing, it's may the best cheese win, you can't hate on the players for that it's the games fault
Hi Don! You probably won’t read this, but I’m with you. Honestly, I think the characters themselves should be broken (HP and damage wise), not the abilities / techniques. People keep saying “Dude, it’s supposed to be this way”, or “it sounds like a skill issue to me” and stuff like that, but there are points or moments where no amount of skill will beat a cheesy tactic. Look at Quada, in one of his videos he was doing 1v1s as a Bardock against LSSJ Broly (Z) (I wonder why he picked that character), and Quada was beating him up and was most likely going to win, but the Broly had the chance to go Sparking Mode instantly and spammed him with some kind of blasts and threw the UNBLOCKABLE ultimate and almost one shotted him. Because of the ki spam that locked him in place without being able to move, he was able to connect the ultimate and win. Honestly, I use this matches whenever I go against one of those players that do the most cheesy things to try to improve myself, but the state of ranked is still sad because it’s a cycle. New players go against cheesy teams, they give up on trying to improve and go the easy route, they pick a cheesy team and then it repeats with a new player and they become the cheesy team player. I shared my opinion on my newest video and I’m getting a lot of hate from people that like using cheesy tactics. 😂 I liked your video, man. Good stuff! I pray that this game in the future becomes better and that Bandai will finally do something about ragequitters…
Unc i really thought this was gonna be the game of my life. Being able to get on with the bros and just chill, smoke, and throw hands. I can't enjoy this game outside of playing with my friends. These weird ahh clowns gotta ruin everything for us OGs.
As a nigga that used to be the top 1 android 18 and top 1 Base Kefla in sparking zero (keyword "used to") the online experience made me uninstall the game to take a whole break because I keep seeing the SAAAAAAAAMMMEEE 4 characters, Super Vegito, Full power Jiren, SSJ4 gogeta, MUI goku. It's like people can't be original and play somebody else like there at least 182 characters in the game, and people wanna be meta, shit is annoying to deal with afterimage, sparking Ki spam, Sparking Ki spam into a unlockable ult, it makes the online experience NOT FUN, I'm a S5 using android 18, base Kefla, Z Trunks, Mid-Goku, SSJ4 goku, Goku black, Kale, and Super Broly in singles, it's like I have to play cheap to rank up and I hate playing that way and I won't gonna play that way cuz that's some pussy shit, hope these dev be seeing the mount of cheese these ppl be doing online because I ain't playing until something is fixed, and yeah game a solid 8 no doubt.
game came out less than a month "used to be top 1 android 18", "take a whole break" you and the people that take this soo seriously are obnoxious and make the game unpleasurable for people who are just having fun...hints...GAME.....ya'll want this to be tekken or guilty so bad...its not even storm connections .......its an ARENA FIGHTER........all arena fighter are spammy, quitty, and janky.....you're playing a bunch of kids on last gen who never watched filler episodes or even know what a Pan is ......and expect them not to quit when you're training so hard you're already talking about retiring? ya'll kill me .
@@IeremiasMoore-El never said anything on wanting this game to be a GGS, or tekken, and fully aware that it's a arena but ppl already out here doing tournament events for this so.. Idk, and who said that anybody retiring? I mean I get what you saying, trust I do, but I'm just pointing out my experience, nothing more nothing less.
I’m just reaching Z rank for singles not playing cheese and never touch ranked again this game is so fun but the way some people play makes the game so unbearable nothing worse then losing to someone you know you’re better then
What the part of the community that doesn't want balance doesn't seem to understand, is that the game is literally LESS fun when things are unbalanced. Like Z Broly is a 5 DP character, that can evolve into a 9 DP character, who then gains instant sparking, hyper-armor, infinite ki blasts, AND an un-blockable ultimate. You spent 5 DP, and got a damn near 10 DP character. This is why games NEED balance, because when characters are too powerful, the game becomes less fun when you fight against them. And since those characters are the most powerful, they get picked more often, so you're having less fun more often.
I hope this game gets fixed..it'd be a major disappointment if it turns out like OPM a hero nobody knows😂😂😂. Same rage quitters top tier users like having the busted monster style moves, melzagard and deep sea king on there team. Although I doubt that but you never know...
Yes it is. People can blame the devs all they want. Players are still making the choice to actively ruin the game. Even older fighting games were unbalanced, but nobody abused mechanics that much because there was shame and stigma behind it.
@@doubled6501 barely even got to play that game online. Sucks how I got into it after it was pretty much dead. Concept was cool and the combat I actually liked just needed better presentation.
What I don’t understand is people who play games like this just to get some cheap online dopamine by playing in a way that’s not even fun just trying to get wins by essentially exploiting the game or using the cheesiest mechanics ? Like how is it fun for you to play this game by getting cheese wins ?
I'll never understand why these weirdos play like their rent on the line. Like don't you wanna just have fun with your favourite characters bruh? I'll take an L with a fun match over a W using some BS any day.
Dont hate the player, hate the game! Bandai has 100% responsibility in this, they are the designers we are simply abiding to the laws they have placed.
Yeah but they probably weren’t expecting people to abuse weird metas. The player still has the choice. They’re not forcing you to play any way. I can easily do these annoying metas, but I don’t. I play with multiple characters I actually like and box. Not play with gimmicks.
I actually don’t blame the player base at all. People will naturally exploit things, there are bad people in every group that will use everything they can to their advantage. The fault lies squarely with the developers. It’s on them to balance the game, to add penalties for ranked etc. People like you and me might have honor and not want to ruin the experience, and I appreciate that. But every game has people like the ragequitting Gogeta, the difference is their behavior is punished by other games. The developers have to create boundaries for the player base, the players will never put boundaries on themselves. I wish they would and we could have a great community but I blame the developers for this. They are the ones that could have stopped it.
People say just have fun when they are playing rank. Since when do people enjoy playing rank genuinely question? No matter what games FPS, Moba RANK is a symbol of competition where people go there to earn the Title of No. 1 The game is good but this is their biggest mistake for adding rank in an unbalanced game
I mostly play offline cause after playing xenoverse since its conception I knew it was gonna go down like this. Any xenoverse player saw this coming a mile away. Cheapest exploits to win? Of course! Cause it’s not bout having fun it’s bout winning to some people. But they fundamentals aren’t even solid. Just play with your homies if you don’t want stress. Can’t even lie the cpu at times puts in work! Usually wax them easily but they catch me off guard a bit. A cpu hitting you with a random ultimate like a person blew my mind.
And mfs be like “The game is supposed to be super hard bro, Goku always struggled in the anime didn’t he??!” Yea but he also won after the struggle 💀 and u can’t compare the damn scripted anime to a video game
Good point about only being matched with strong characters if you’re using one. Another solution would be making people who use strong characters earn less ranked points for winning in relative to their DP cost
Imma just play the game in single player mode, and play in multiplayer only against friends yeah I’ll prob suck playing against friends but better than dealing with online toxicity
In single rank mode, there should be like picking characters base on their DP Example i can choose to make a rule for only being able to pick 10 DP characters like single DP equality 4 DP vs 4 DP, 6 Vs 6. So people will not cry when they pick mr Satan and match against ssj4 gogeta
Honestly, what ever happened to just HAVING FUN. These niggas are literally trying everything to win: Afterimage Strike Ki Spam Instant Spark Rage quit Giant rush spam Even spamming perception Now unfortunately I was one of the ppl that used afterimage strike (was using videl) until I stopped when I reached B5 and actually wanted to learn. My mains rn are (Adult) Gohan, Goku Black, Goku (Z-End) and (Base) Kefla. Slowly getting better trust 🙏🏾 also keep up the great vids
I understand your point of view, and tbh I agree with it. I still love the game, but that doesn’t make it exempt from criticism. And the biggest issue i have is with the people defending the scummy tactics because “it’s supposed to be unbalanced.” There’s a fine line between unbalanced and un-interactive gameplay. Sitting there being stuck in block stun while broly abuses you with ki blasts into an inevitable ultimate isn’t fun for either side tbh. Instant sparking is so free with so little counter play especially with an unblockable ultimate. I’d love a return on ki sickness, instant spark to maybe not last as long as regular sparking mode or even have ki blasts actually drain the sparking mode faster like high speed movements do. The sad part is the community knows these tactics are inherently unfair but prioritize virtual points over a general fun experience for both parties.
I disagree with a couple things. Afterimage and Wild sense ain't nowhere near as cheesy or as spammy Afterimage strike. To me a 15 sec time limit to NOT fight is crazy. Making it work only 3x should fix that if they gon have it. The other thing is a permanent ban for quitting is a bit much. What I think they should do for ranked is boost your rank double if your opponent quit or demote the quitter down 2 tiers. For example if they were A2, if they quit, they would be demoted to C2. If they quit at the lowest tier, they'd have to work 10x as hard to boost their rank by finishing x amount of games. I think they should change the character select like how NBA 2K do it with tiers and you HAVE to win in all tiers to advance in rank. As far as insta sparking goes, they should make getting that require 4-5 skill points and make you charge ki much slower the more you use it. The unblockables are fine but I think the cut scenes should not play on our screen so we have a chance to at least dodge the shit. Maybe a slight indication that someone is using an ultimate (like changing the sky a weird color or a flash or something like that) and then we can just get out the way assuming we not in recovery.
Ki sickness is still in Sparking Zero but it’s much less common, Spopovich has it on his melee buff skill indicated by the blue ki charge icon. It really should be applied to strong utility skills like afterimage strike or instant sparking tbh, those skills are really strong with little to no drawbacks for using them
The spamming wouldn't be as annoying if Mufukas would stop rage quitting when it don't work on people that know how to stop the BS but nah they so butt hurt they gotta pull the cord out
Already knew ranked was gonna be a cornfest off rip. After image strike, yaji cheese. Ult spam, folks are so desperate to play for sparking ult. So boring
Ur never going to make people stop spamming. I accept the fact that I'll just have to deal with it. We can't make people play the way we want. At least try & stop the rage quitting.
Honestly I’m so pissed at how this game came out. Literally all they had to do was make BT3 with new graphics and characters, that’s it. That’s all we wanted. They have these new mechanics that are not fun. •Vanish wars is a mechanic… but it’s not fun. •Super counters are annoying, and yes I know how to do them • the game speed is too fast to actually be able to counter your opponent… so most times the match just boils down to whoever vanishes and super counters the best. It’s not actually about outplaying your opponent but just about reaction times. • also the game punishes you very hard for making just one mistake. The unblockable ult spam and instant sparking is too much for the average player • this game is NOT even close to BT3 and I still play Bt3 on my ps2 til this day. It’s better.
100% fax. but patches are gonna be coming and in probably 1 year this game will be better. they should've released this version as like an alpha version or something cause it ain't a finished game...
@ fillipoos8445 no it’s not, 1.) in this game vanish wars and super counters are primary. In BT3 your guard was the primary defense. Game speed was slower and it made it easier to use high low guards to block or side steps because you actually had time to read your opponent. We also had a universal ki wave that you could use to get the opponent off your back so you didn’t have to solely rely on z counters when taking back shots. 2.)This game lets you use follow up dragon homings and vanishings for a lot more inputs then in BT3 which also encourages more vanish wars and z counters more often. It’s clear in this game they want vanish wars to be a core mechanic where you have to master them to be good (they encourage draining the other players ki and give you skill count). In BT3 you didn’t need to necessarily master them to be good and could avoid them if you were smart enough. 3.) because of the universal defensive ki wave in exchange for health, anopponent couldn’t just rush your back and get a spam ult as easily in BT3. In this game the ult combo is way easier and there are way more unblockable ults, no universal back defense except z counter, and the ult combo is easier. This lends to a more spam playstyle. So no you actually don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes both games had z counters and vanishes, but in this game your defense absolutely depends on z counters and reaction time. In BT3 you could reliably depend on other options and still be a good player
@@henriquem6722 hopefully but honestly z counters and vanish wars just aren’t it. The main problem is those 2 mechanics are the same no matter who you face. So now it feels like every match is the same loop over and over instead of actually having to read my opponent. It’s not fun even when you master it. Hopefully they make other defensive options more viable and give us a better option for dealing with back shots than just z counter alone.
To me, I feel like a good start to making the online experience better is to add drawbacks to powerful skills like afterimage strike and instant sparking. I say let the characters be as they are now and implement debuffs for certain skills like AS, Wild Sense, and Instant Spark like ki sickness or reduced Atk, ki blast power, or defense after using AS or WS and a drawback for using Instant Spark would be not being able to charge or regen ki for 10-15 seconds. Just from my experience online in ranked I say let the characters be broken as they are now but add drawbacks for certain skills so that way these skills feel like skills and not exploitable crutches or win conditions. Right now using these characters feels like taking out a loan for a million dollars and not having to pay it back. The game isn’t bad at all and is incredibly fun but it’s the types of players you come across that can ruin the experience. I think that making changes like that would be a good way for both sides of the player base to find middle ground and go from there to make a better experience
It’s so disgusting seeing people play my favorite character Z Broly as a cheese character. I get he’s strong. Armor is just a part of him in his strongest form. But the unblockable ki blast ult spam?! NO. NO NO NO.
If the game is supposed to be unbalanced and you know that then don’t complain about people spamming you know what the game was going in y’all just need to use items and cheese the people who wanna spam or whatever, as far as rage quitting Bandai does need to do something about that there are literally items in game that let u use less ki for supers. If y’all don’t like it play something else, like tekken that’s more Balanced
Feel like the only thing needing to change about this game is when your waiting for an online match make it like tekken 8 where we see who it is and there disconnection rate and let us deny the match before it even goes into an online match other than that everyone knows the game was gonna be unbalanced and I doubt complaining is gonna change anything
We don’t care about it being unbalanced what isn’t happening is people playing dragonball. I’m sorry but you and me both know that broly going in a circle spamming ki blast is not dragonball. That is not the intention of the developers. It’s to recreate the show man
I agree with playing with capsules, but have you ever ran into a 7bar ssj4 gogeta with god ki capsule? The ki blast spam needs to be felt with no one wants to deal with that bro
@@nerdstartm1895 I’ve ran into a few gogeta’s who wanna cheese but in all honesty I liv for the toxicity man cause I nearly got every capsule even brolys ring where I can deny people from transforming or doing fusion, I like the games direction and honestly if people using items is too much then turn it off and play ranked that way. People complain about this game like they don’t have options and it’s driving me crazy, if you want balance go play a different arena fighter or fighter z no tenkaichi game has been known for balance 😂
Everything you said was soo valid. The only thing I would disagree with is that spike or bandai do have a part to play when it comes to giving the community THIS amount of leverage of abuse of these broken mechanics. They can simply just nerf or give these options a drawback, that way, ppl can actually enjoy and play the game on a competitive AND casual level and still have it be unbalanced.
I played for a couple hours today. I got about 12 plugs, TWELVE, and 6 of those were Broly players 💀. I have enough plugging clips to make a whole-ass plugging montage from a day’s worth of playing, in fact i’m thinking about just throwing one together this weekend because its actually insane. Honestly, if you want to cheese, go for it, but players quitting rampantly mid match without any repercussions after they get countered for doing it, lack of playtesting leading to excessive and gamebreaking bugs, between both Sparking Zero and High ranks in Tekken, I think I might chill on Bamco games for a while cause they never address these specific playerbase issues, and it takes them forever to address stability issues and bugs. This company has made $5 billion from Tekken 8 and Sparking Zero sales alone, and they don’t put not a cent of that towards fixing these things before the damage is done, its always a bandaid fix before they start pushing dlc.
Just deleted it I work all day n just wanted to have fun like the old days some of my friends even being weird playing me like they’re life depends on it lmao like damn my guy
I get its supposed 2 be "Lore Accurate", but I'd rather see teams balanced by same DP matchups. So a team of Raditz + Zarbon (3 DP each) could fight a final form freiza (6 dp). I think that way the players really dictate who they fight, while still giving room for the more powerful characters as well.
I think dp should affect how many skill items you can use, since skill items seem like they were initially intended to help the checks and balances of weaker vs. broken characters. Have skill items be affected by the dp of your character, and balance that. As it stands there are zero penalties for cheese, even rage quitting and that’s just not a strong playing field for a healthy game community. Bandai needs to at least make a psa addressing of what’s happening and start saying the stuff they plan on changing/fixing. So many good games die out early due to poor developer response. No game worth any play time that’s released in todays gaming market does not have a community of players it immediately builds by default, and each games community needs communication from the developer, unless you are literally dropping indie single player games. Period. I still have hope that somethings gonna improve, they at least did the Yajirobe nerf 2-3 weeks in, but Bandai needs to talk to us. It’s called building trust. And it sucks that people are always gonna cheese and not play with honor cuz they don’t want to invest the time to actually get good, but if there’s zero penalty for a cheese, you’re only hurting the game itself. Why spend all this money making it and have the opportunity for it to live for a decade only to flop cuz you didn’t wanna fix cheese? Madness. In any case, Coolio your videos are dope, despite all this mess I hope you keep making stuff because I’ve been really enjoying your content. Let’s spar sometime too, I’m tryna have a real match on here. PSN: Rawxstar
Not gone lie. Rank isn’t fun. I know rank is about winning but running into ppl who only want to win is boring af. Infuriating af. I played gogetas, vegetas, ui goku, giants, yajirobe teams with all low level characters that afterimage all day.
You’re by far my favorite RUclipsr on this game. But I feel like this is part of the problem. You got a hold the developers accountable for broken mechanics. They clearly didn’t test this before they release the game. I agree to give everyone the same health bar But besides that This game isn’t finished and has broken mechanics and overpowered characters you’re going to get players that exploit that in any game that you play. There are way too many get out of jail free cards in this game like super counters. if I punish someone for whiffing a move I should be able to get my full combo off unless you use a revenge counter which cost you skill points. the super counters are the worst thing about this game in my opinion because you get to break out of a combo for free
Z Broly and full power jiren need to be stop! ki blast spam take no skills. I be whooping there ass the whole game they go into sparking and start spamming ki blast into ultimate. And the funny thing is affer your hit u get lock off the character and they go into sparking again and hit u with another ultimate thats insane and need to be fix
The reason they are banning people for the mods are because it causes the game to crash for people who don't have the mod in public custom battles. You can still use the mods just not in a public custom.
Nah not gon lie, if they had their balancing in mind (Which they said they wouldn't be thinking about) they would have prepared for this or been ready to balance it. It is quite literally the devs/ game makers fault that the game is like this because they wanted it to be like this from jump. I don't know what people thought would happen when they quite literally said there would be no balancing real balancing in this game. Rage quitting is different though.
it might be good for singles to have equal health bars like you said but equal attack, defense, etc.. stats nd the keeping the skills of the characters will keep the uniqueness of each character
I thought about something like that too. But I think the bigger issue is the skills characters have and hire people abuse them easily. Their whole gameplay and gamestyle revolves around gimmicks and not really fighting. They have a huge issue gameplay wise
: it’ll be perfect once they adjust some things lol for example people with unblockable ults should not have an instant sparking and they need to limit the amount times u can vanish that n crossplay
I dont understand why people cry about people who spam. "THERES NO RULES TO FIGHTING" when all the older DBZ games even back then there were always people trying to cheese. There's nothing you can do about it no point about crying about just find a way to beat it. Once you learn how to beat something like that then you get even better. As for the rage quitters they need to ban them or stop them from leaving the game. But at the end of the day you can't make these people fight how you want them to fight. Every game I've played when it's a VS theres been someone trying to spam. There's no way you think that people not going to do it theres always a way to cheese. Genz's just not real gamers 😂
Because it's not enjoyable to fight It's literally the same than campers in COD. Why people cry about campers if there isn't any rule that tell people where they can be or not? Because it's not fun when you are in the other side, you don't enter a COD so someone that is hide in a corner shoot you in the back, you enter a COD so you run around the map like a monkey killing others while other people also run around like a monkey killing you And here is literally the same, it's not hard to understand, people want to enter into their dragon ball fighting game to have dragon ball fights, not to have some dude abusing X cheesy thing they saw in RUclips
unc, no one sane enjoys fighting 3 giants (with instant spark and hyper armor) broly hyper armor, instant spark, infinite ki blast stun, and a guaranteed ult to land while you’re in deflecting animation. And then when you beat the cheesers, they leave so you gain nothing. Obviously people are going to cheese in every fighting game, but when it’s almost every match, it’s not fun for either player. The cheeser is gonna get bored at some point of winning with cheese easily, and the player playing normal is gonna get bored of going against it. If you think this is healthy for the game you’re beyond delusional. It doesn’t matter if the older games were like this, bt3 is 17 years old☠️
I'm sorry but there is curently a tech in game that allow Zero counter, AT ALL. I won't disclose how for now but there is no counter around it, it has something to do with Ki Blast. This game is just straight up a broken mess game and you should feedback to the developer TO MAKE THEM DO THEIR DAMN JOB. I don't know why yall love to suck Bandai's dick by saying there's nothing wrong with the game and calling the complainers "Ungrateful", Ungrateful my ass, i pay money so i must received back a complete product, not a broken mess of a game.
@@jstnfr About the argument if "But Budokai Tenkaichi 3 was like this" That's it a complete lie and whoever say that it full of bullshit. First of all Budokai Tenkaichi 3 WAS NOT LIKE THIS, a lot of the debuff, limitations and things that prevented this from happening has been removed or changed in favour of the cheese things: Ki fatigue, the way the skill points now recover with everything (before wasn't like this), the speed of some things like Senzu beans, etc. Budokai Tenkaichi 3, was not like this, it was harder, with less hand holding and more debuff and penalties for spamming, what we have in Sparking Zero is a symptom of modern games that try to make everything easy and affordable to everyone, creating situations like this. And that said, even if Sparking Zero was a 1:1 of Budokai Tenkaichi 3, the context has changed, it's not the same how we played with our friends and family 17 years ago, as how online people play nowadays, those are 2 completely different environments, and what 17 years ago wouldn't be a problem because people didn't played to ruin the experience to their friends, no with online addition it's a real problem, so that things of Sparking Zero is like Budokai Tenkaichi 3 it's a complete lie
I hate the people who were saying this needs to be unbalanced and never patched "We the community want it this way" I was who is we ? This aint 2006 its 2024 i want it balanced towards being Fun! Competitive or not This game isnt fun no more
After image strike is easy to deal with dodge with they as i do it all the time but my problem is broly and the people blocking the whole time and steady holding the b circle or wtv it is on pc
Just came across your channel by courtesy of RUclips algorithm. Bro, people don’t want to hear what you’re saying because they need their crutches. They don’t want to “best” you in a fight they want to put you in a “block the unblockable, haha” situation. You ain’t even hit on people who play with terrible connection and the fact that the game doesn’t have rollback net code. Imagine tryna time your vanishes perfectly against someone who is using super Vagito or Z Broly. The way I see it moving forward is, play it for the story and all the nostalgia it has to offer then after it runs its course, Marvel Rivals will be out.
This is what a budokai tenkaichi game is bro… it’s always been like this. It’s just online multiplayer gaming is huge now so all of the exploits are seen by everyone and not just your homies at home. No need to complain. True fans knew this kind of thing would happen. It’s a combat game, and a good one at that. Just enjoy the grind or pick a different game I suggest
What was the point in mentioning that it was a “combat game” I don’t see how that added to your point. Also a “true fan”🙄would know that vanishing was not this easy and perception changes A LOT. Dude even mentioned in the video that Ki sickness was in bt3 and not this which would have helped a ton.
Also why Jiren transformation look unfinished as fuck? Why we get SS2 Cabba in a game finally but not even just SS caulifla??? Or SS2 Future Trunks? Why can’t Kale transform from Berserk to controlled state like in the anime? Not even a separate SS Rage transformation for Trunks? EVERY other Tenkaichi/sparking game Perfect Cell could transform to Super Perfect Cell. Not in this one!! It takes me out of it a bit when I feel the predecessor games have features that I should have on a damn ps5!! Raging blast I could customize my supers and ultimates, aura, and cosmetics on any character. They love what ifs in this game but don’t wanna bring back SS3 Vegeta or Broly? You can do whatever you want! Little things like this I noticed just make me feel like somethings were rushed but for what?
Man to all the people ignoring the obvious flaws. I don’t want to hear when y’all gotta wait 15 minutes to find a 800 ping match cause y’all wanted an unfun spammy mess of a game, that didn’t get patched. 😂
@alphadookie5968 Super Counter/Perception are way too free, they need to either cost something or be removed, unblockable ults, broken, frozen controls at times (I'm not talking about the bug with the supers that got patched, I mean my character literally freezes up at times when I go in for my square combos), instant Sparking moves, the fuckass trash lock-on system, giants, Afterimage Strike, (yes, I mean it. Deadass..I know how to get around it but I still hate it), but yeah that's why...how free Super Counter and Perception are creases me the most, I could put up with the rest of the bullshit if these two mechanics were not in the game. Revenge Counter is good enough, just buff it so it can be used when you're taking backshots and it'll be perfect. We don't need two extra ugly ass broken ass defense mechanics. Done
My take is, if you wanna play a competitive fighting game, play Tekken or Street Fighter. Don’t play this or get upset that this game is doing what arena fighters do best, make an unbalanced party game.
06:53 ive been saying this for timeee bro! How I might using base future gohan and only matching against ui gokus and ssj4 gogeta. Just on singles at least
I've been running into nothing but ui goku, ssj4 Gogeta, whis and great ape baby players. I was like yeah I'll just stick to playing online with friends in this game😂
@@nocapp_ stop at A for your own sanity, it gets worse. Like after A4, shit is maddening. Its Z Broly, Super Vegito, Full Power Jiren, MUI, and SSJ4 Gogeta almost exclusively. And honestly? SSJ4 imo is probably the most tolerable one. Learning how to counter wildsense will drastically improve your matchups. Everyone else though? Good luck. 💀
It’s annoying but it’s funny when you get ahead of the cheesy bastard😂 they know one thing and cant adapt. Plus game has bad sounds and super animation so its been an 8
CRYING IS CRAZY FOR AN ADULT MAN.... this game is not a 10/10 without ranked......Elden Ring is a 10/10 game ....ya'll just overhyped for nostalgia and crying about everything in the game.......this game is a 6/10 at best.....Every other match someone is lag switchin or quitting.....and then there is the toxic community *caugh *caugh ...
Nah, people get good, it's just natural with any game, you can NOT complain about people using a mechanic in the game, it's in there to use, After image recharges so fast that why wouldn't you use it? Also I find the SZ community to be very hypocritical, they where praising the game for being "unbalanced" yet they cry because every match it's the same character "oh but it's more faithful to the series" WELL MY GUY YOU ASKED FOR THAT. And it's more funny since you can just play casuals yet they refuse to do that Also, the sparking combo into ultimate, is literally spamming square, pressing triangle and then the Ult. Since the moment the game launched I thought it was just peak stupidy to make ultimates not only unblockable, BUT ALSO TRACK, the tracking for normal supers is amazing, but for unblockable and now un-dodgeable (with plain movement) moves.... nah, in BT3 the vanish to the side of the ultimate was pretty consistent, stil failed it from time to time but it felt like my fault, in SZ I honestly could never do it, I know it's a skill issue, but wasn't this game supposed to be fun in casual like BT3? why do I have to master a high level timing for dodging a literal nuclear bomb that takes 2 bars from me. A long rant but honestly, I am starting to hate the game and the community, also Bandai too.
"Yo, everyone using broken stuff like after image strike, then you do." Well, what if I don't? What if I want a normal fight, but all I see is everyone abusing op characters and spam them? Just because of that, I don't wanna even touch them. And you tell me "well then just use what they use". They use it because it wins the game for then. I DON'T USE IT because I wanna play the game for myself, while these monkeys do the same stuff every match. Literally today, I was fought 5 Gogeta in a row. AND IT WAS ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!!!. I never rematch these monkeys ether I win or lose BUT STILL I GOT 5 GOGETA IN A ROW!!! AND YOU SAY THIS IS OK? DO YOU EVEN SAW HOW THEY FIGHT? SPAM SQUARE, SPARKING, ULT. THAT'S ALL. If they try to do this stuff on another character they will be washed cuz Gogeta has top stats and only because of this, they can nobrain win matches. Most fun part is when you defeat some of them. You know what you get for your sweaty win? Nothing. They just quit losing nothing and giving you nothing.
This game is going to lose a good chunk of its player base if they don't fix anything. Players are still out here making a choice to ruin the game. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I'm convinced people in online ranked are going on a power trip because they're losers in real life. I'll be playing Tekken until they patch this stuff
please just quit now so we don't have an army of minions repeating the same played out rhetoric "i'm not good and its not fair".
@@IeremiasMoore-ElI bet u probably one of those weird ass cheesy players that were born after 2008 that can’t have fun on the game and just wanna cheese and exploit the game all day lol… what he said it’s right the game is good but the players are ruining the game experience for everyone.. androids, dr wheelo, giants, ki spammers and so on
@@IeremiasMoore-El yea you're definitely right its not the players fault that the game allows you to play a certain way
@@Ryuma103desiresboth are at fault, the players know what they’re doing, majority of these people run scummy shit on games for the sole purpose of making people mad
@@Notfakeultra I think those just wanna win because it's ranked tbh and cheese is the best way to go about I see the best players in this game so far just cheesing, it's may the best cheese win, you can't hate on the players for that it's the games fault
I spam hands not powers and they quit
Hi Don! You probably won’t read this, but I’m with you. Honestly, I think the characters themselves should be broken (HP and damage wise), not the abilities / techniques. People keep saying “Dude, it’s supposed to be this way”, or “it sounds like a skill issue to me” and stuff like that, but there are points or moments where no amount of skill will beat a cheesy tactic. Look at Quada, in one of his videos he was doing 1v1s as a Bardock against LSSJ Broly (Z) (I wonder why he picked that character), and Quada was beating him up and was most likely going to win, but the Broly had the chance to go Sparking Mode instantly and spammed him with some kind of blasts and threw the UNBLOCKABLE ultimate and almost one shotted him. Because of the ki spam that locked him in place without being able to move, he was able to connect the ultimate and win.
Honestly, I use this matches whenever I go against one of those players that do the most cheesy things to try to improve myself, but the state of ranked is still sad because it’s a cycle. New players go against cheesy teams, they give up on trying to improve and go the easy route, they pick a cheesy team and then it repeats with a new player and they become the cheesy team player.
I shared my opinion on my newest video and I’m getting a lot of hate from people that like using cheesy tactics. 😂
I liked your video, man. Good stuff! I pray that this game in the future becomes better and that Bandai will finally do something about ragequitters…
yeah its sad really :/
Unc i really thought this was gonna be the game of my life. Being able to get on with the bros and just chill, smoke, and throw hands. I can't enjoy this game outside of playing with my friends. These weird ahh clowns gotta ruin everything for us OGs.
The way some of these dudes play man; back in the BT3 days I would've never invited most of their asses back.
Stg.
As a nigga that used to be the top 1 android 18 and top 1 Base Kefla in sparking zero (keyword "used to") the online experience made me uninstall the game to take a whole break because I keep seeing the SAAAAAAAAMMMEEE 4 characters, Super Vegito, Full power Jiren, SSJ4 gogeta, MUI goku. It's like people can't be original and play somebody else like there at least 182 characters in the game, and people wanna be meta, shit is annoying to deal with afterimage, sparking Ki spam, Sparking Ki spam into a unlockable ult, it makes the online experience NOT FUN, I'm a S5 using android 18, base Kefla, Z Trunks, Mid-Goku, SSJ4 goku, Goku black, Kale, and Super Broly in singles, it's like I have to play cheap to rank up and I hate playing that way and I won't gonna play that way cuz that's some pussy shit, hope these dev be seeing the mount of cheese these ppl be doing online because I ain't playing until something is fixed, and yeah game a solid 8 no doubt.
game came out less than a month "used to be top 1 android 18", "take a whole break" you and the people that take this soo seriously are obnoxious and make the game unpleasurable for people who are just having fun...hints...GAME.....ya'll want this to be tekken or guilty so bad...its not even storm connections .......its an ARENA FIGHTER........all arena fighter are spammy, quitty, and janky.....you're playing a bunch of kids on last gen who never watched filler episodes or even know what a Pan is ......and expect them not to quit when you're training so hard you're already talking about retiring? ya'll kill me .
@@IeremiasMoore-El never said anything on wanting this game to be a GGS, or tekken, and fully aware that it's a arena but ppl already out here doing tournament events for this so.. Idk, and who said that anybody retiring? I mean I get what you saying, trust I do, but I'm just pointing out my experience, nothing more nothing less.
@@IeremiasMoore-ElBro you white knighting and crying in every comment,you a whole weirdo. Get off meat…
It’s the xenoverse players that are cheesiest
I’m just reaching Z rank for singles not playing cheese and never touch ranked again this game is so fun but the way some people play makes the game so unbearable nothing worse then losing to someone you know you’re better then
What the part of the community that doesn't want balance doesn't seem to understand, is that the game is literally LESS fun when things are unbalanced.
Like Z Broly is a 5 DP character, that can evolve into a 9 DP character, who then gains instant sparking, hyper-armor, infinite ki blasts, AND an un-blockable ultimate. You spent 5 DP, and got a damn near 10 DP character.
This is why games NEED balance, because when characters are too powerful, the game becomes less fun when you fight against them. And since those characters are the most powerful, they get picked more often, so you're having less fun more often.
I agree.
I've been having lots of fun....but then again i don't transform into a teenage woman things don't go my way.
I’m literally making a video as we speak, addressing this same shit. I’m about to go in on this community. Shit is getting outta hand
I hope this game gets fixed..it'd be a major disappointment if it turns out like OPM a hero nobody knows😂😂😂. Same rage quitters top tier users like having the busted monster style moves, melzagard and deep sea king on there team. Although I doubt that but you never know...
Yes it is. People can blame the devs all they want. Players are still making the choice to actively ruin the game. Even older fighting games were unbalanced, but nobody abused mechanics that much because there was shame and stigma behind it.
@@doubled6501 barely even got to play that game online. Sucks how I got into it after it was pretty much dead. Concept was cool and the combat I actually liked just needed better presentation.
@@277Shadow Same I played it when it was dead lol
What I don’t understand is people who play games like this just to get some cheap online dopamine by playing in a way that’s not even fun just trying to get wins by essentially exploiting the game or using the cheesiest mechanics ? Like how is it fun for you to play this game by getting cheese wins ?
I'll never understand why these weirdos play like their rent on the line. Like don't you wanna just have fun with your favourite characters bruh? I'll take an L with a fun match over a W using some BS any day.
this channel is one of those weirdos crying and playing like their rent is on the line ...ironically
@@IeremiasMoore-El nah that's dumb AF. This channel is a dragon ball fan who wants to have some fun matches that require skill.
@@greenonionsalad i heard "that's dumb" right after you ad hominem ranted.
@@IeremiasMoore-El lol I don't think you know what ad hominem means
@ explain it
Dont listen to those bums. We in our training arc
Dont hate the player, hate the game! Bandai has 100% responsibility in this, they are the designers we are simply abiding to the laws they have placed.
Yeah but they probably weren’t expecting people to abuse weird metas. The player still has the choice. They’re not forcing you to play any way. I can easily do these annoying metas, but I don’t. I play with multiple characters I actually like and box. Not play with gimmicks.
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I actually don’t blame the player base at all. People will naturally exploit things, there are bad people in every group that will use everything they can to their advantage. The fault lies squarely with the developers. It’s on them to balance the game, to add penalties for ranked etc.
People like you and me might have honor and not want to ruin the experience, and I appreciate that. But every game has people like the ragequitting Gogeta, the difference is their behavior is punished by other games. The developers have to create boundaries for the player base, the players will never put boundaries on themselves. I wish they would and we could have a great community but I blame the developers for this. They are the ones that could have stopped it.
People say just have fun when they are playing rank.
Since when do people enjoy playing rank genuinely question? No matter what games FPS, Moba RANK is a symbol of competition where people go there to earn the Title of No. 1
The game is good but this is their biggest mistake for adding rank in an unbalanced game
your....gew understanding of good and bad are relative to your limited perspective.
Any proffesional NBA team vs the cheesiness of the globetrotters...
Damn bro I agree with you 💯 I practice for hours and lose to cheesy ass people but I'm going to keep trying
Dp battle is pretty much where all the good/fun players went to, I think im done with singles
The problem is the timing for the matches is too short. I never really have a match that finishes properly without running out of time or Rage quit
Bro imagine a super vegito yajirobe and dr wheelo all at the same time? Your buggin dp battles are ass
Just got to Z rank on dp HELL NAH DP IS NOT WHERE THE GOOD FUN PLAYERS WENT once you get too high ranks expect the most cheesiest fucks to exist
I mostly play offline cause after playing xenoverse since its conception I knew it was gonna go down like this. Any xenoverse player saw this coming a mile away. Cheapest exploits to win? Of course! Cause it’s not bout having fun it’s bout winning to some people. But they fundamentals aren’t even solid. Just play with your homies if you don’t want stress. Can’t even lie the cpu at times puts in work! Usually wax them easily but they catch me off guard a bit. A cpu hitting you with a random ultimate like a person blew my mind.
And mfs be like “The game is supposed to be super hard bro, Goku always struggled in the anime didn’t he??!” Yea but he also won after the struggle 💀 and u can’t compare the damn scripted anime to a video game
Lool yo this editing is hard, how u switch from game to the show is crazy
Preciate u.
Speaking 100% facts bro. Never been the type to cheese my way in video games , it’s always better to actually be good at the game & not exploiting
Exactly. Even single player games back in the day I never used cheats shit ruins the fun
Good point about only being matched with strong characters if you’re using one. Another solution would be making people who use strong characters earn less ranked points for winning in relative to their DP cost
Facts. That too.
Imma just play the game in single player mode, and play in multiplayer only against friends yeah I’ll prob suck playing against friends but better than dealing with online toxicity
In single rank mode, there should be like picking characters base on their DP
Example i can choose to make a rule for only being able to pick 10 DP characters like single DP equality 4 DP vs 4 DP, 6 Vs 6. So people will not cry when they pick mr Satan and match against ssj4 gogeta
Honestly, what ever happened to just HAVING FUN. These niggas are literally trying everything to win:
Afterimage Strike
Ki Spam
Instant Spark
Rage quit
Giant rush spam
Even spamming perception
Now unfortunately I was one of the ppl that used afterimage strike (was using videl) until I stopped when I reached B5 and actually wanted to learn. My mains rn are (Adult) Gohan, Goku Black, Goku (Z-End) and (Base) Kefla. Slowly getting better trust 🙏🏾 also keep up the great vids
My Mains atm r Hit, Super Saiyan Rage Trunks, Goku Black Both Versions, Beerus, and Mui/Ui Omen Goku
Though most versions of Goku r Great imo
I understand your point of view, and tbh I agree with it. I still love the game, but that doesn’t make it exempt from criticism. And the biggest issue i have is with the people defending the scummy tactics because “it’s supposed to be unbalanced.” There’s a fine line between unbalanced and un-interactive gameplay. Sitting there being stuck in block stun while broly abuses you with ki blasts into an inevitable ultimate isn’t fun for either side tbh. Instant sparking is so free with so little counter play especially with an unblockable ultimate. I’d love a return on ki sickness, instant spark to maybe not last as long as regular sparking mode or even have ki blasts actually drain the sparking mode faster like high speed movements do. The sad part is the community knows these tactics are inherently unfair but prioritize virtual points over a general fun experience for both parties.
I disagree with a couple things.
Afterimage and Wild sense ain't nowhere near as cheesy or as spammy Afterimage strike. To me a 15 sec time limit to NOT fight is crazy. Making it work only 3x should fix that if they gon have it.
The other thing is a permanent ban for quitting is a bit much.
What I think they should do for ranked is boost your rank double if your opponent quit or demote the quitter down 2 tiers. For example if they were A2, if they quit, they would be demoted to C2. If they quit at the lowest tier, they'd have to work 10x as hard to boost their rank by finishing x amount of games.
I think they should change the character select like how NBA 2K do it with tiers and you HAVE to win in all tiers to advance in rank.
As far as insta sparking goes, they should make getting that require 4-5 skill points and make you charge ki much slower the more you use it.
The unblockables are fine but I think the cut scenes should not play on our screen so we have a chance to at least dodge the shit. Maybe a slight indication that someone is using an ultimate (like changing the sky a weird color or a flash or something like that) and then we can just get out the way assuming we not in recovery.
That happy birthday dude is a pure weirdo I still remember that name probably will never forget
Ki sickness is still in Sparking Zero but it’s much less common, Spopovich has it on his melee buff skill indicated by the blue ki charge icon. It really should be applied to strong utility skills like afterimage strike or instant sparking tbh, those skills are really strong with little to no drawbacks for using them
The best counter to gogeta or ui goku is using captain ginyu
The spamming wouldn't be as annoying if Mufukas would stop rage quitting when it don't work on people that know how to stop the BS but nah they so butt hurt they gotta pull the cord out
Wdym rage quitting when cheesing doesn't work isn't cool? I thought thats how real Gs did it! /s
Fuck them dudes, I hate em worse than the AFK mains
Bruh I swear I love ur vid on how bullshit this game is when u actually playing it! Cuz we ALL going thru the same bullshit bruh
Already knew ranked was gonna be a cornfest off rip.
After image strike, yaji cheese. Ult spam, folks are so desperate to play for sparking ult. So boring
Ur never going to make people stop spamming. I accept the fact that I'll just have to deal with it. We can't make people play the way we want. At least try & stop the rage quitting.
Honestly I’m so pissed at how this game came out. Literally all they had to do was make BT3 with new graphics and characters, that’s it. That’s all we wanted.
They have these new mechanics that are not fun.
•Vanish wars is a mechanic… but it’s not fun.
•Super counters are annoying, and yes I know how to do them
• the game speed is too fast to actually be able to counter your opponent… so most times the match just boils down to whoever vanishes and super counters the best. It’s not actually about outplaying your opponent but just about reaction times.
• also the game punishes you very hard for making just one mistake. The unblockable ult spam and instant sparking is too much for the average player
• this game is NOT even close to BT3 and I still play Bt3 on my ps2 til this day. It’s better.
100% fax. but patches are gonna be coming and in probably 1 year this game will be better. they should've released this version as like an alpha version or something cause it ain't a finished game...
bro, everything you listed is straight up copied from BT3, you people are complaining over everything when youre just bad at the game.
@ fillipoos8445
no it’s not,
1.) in this game vanish wars and super counters are primary.
In BT3 your guard was the primary defense. Game speed was slower and it made it easier to use high low guards to block or side steps because you actually had time to read your opponent. We also had a universal ki wave that you could use to get the opponent off your back so you didn’t have to solely rely on z counters when taking back shots.
2.)This game lets you use follow up dragon homings and vanishings for a lot more inputs then in BT3 which also encourages more vanish wars and z counters more often. It’s clear in this game they want vanish wars to be a core mechanic where you have to master them to be good (they encourage draining the other players ki and give you skill count). In BT3 you didn’t need to necessarily master them to be good and could avoid them if you were smart enough.
3.) because of the universal defensive ki wave in exchange for health, anopponent couldn’t just rush your back and get a spam ult as easily in BT3. In this game the ult combo is way easier and there are way more unblockable ults, no universal back defense except z counter, and the ult combo is easier. This lends to a more spam playstyle.
So no you actually don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes both games had z counters and vanishes, but in this game your defense absolutely depends on z counters and reaction time. In BT3 you could reliably depend on other options and still be a good player
@@henriquem6722 hopefully but honestly z counters and vanish wars just aren’t it. The main problem is those 2 mechanics are the same no matter who you face. So now it feels like every match is the same loop over and over instead of actually having to read my opponent. It’s not fun even when you master it. Hopefully they make other defensive options more viable and give us a better option for dealing with back shots than just z counter alone.
@@RGM5396 just improve your reaction time😂
Keep running Vegeta bruh hes my favorite too and End Of Z Vegeta is slick
I gotchu
@@doncooli0 my dude👌🏼
same mfs that spam the same dribble move on 2k lmao
Yall heard of “dont hate the player hate the game”? Idk if that applies to dbsz😂
To me, I feel like a good start to making the online experience better is to add drawbacks to powerful skills like afterimage strike and instant sparking. I say let the characters be as they are now and implement debuffs for certain skills like AS, Wild Sense, and Instant Spark like ki sickness or reduced Atk, ki blast power, or defense after using AS or WS and a drawback for using Instant Spark would be not being able to charge or regen ki for 10-15 seconds. Just from my experience online in ranked I say let the characters be broken as they are now but add drawbacks for certain skills so that way these skills feel like skills and not exploitable crutches or win conditions. Right now using these characters feels like taking out a loan for a million dollars and not having to pay it back. The game isn’t bad at all and is incredibly fun but it’s the types of players you come across that can ruin the experience. I think that making changes like that would be a good way for both sides of the player base to find middle ground and go from there to make a better experience
It’s so disgusting seeing people play my favorite character Z Broly as a cheese character. I get he’s strong. Armor is just a part of him in his strongest form. But the unblockable ki blast ult spam?! NO. NO NO NO.
Game feels so unfinished but sparking zero is still young I hope they can fix stuff
The cutscene transitions into the real anime was tuff asl 🔥
The Broly/Kale berserk transformation + insta unblockable super/ult and that type of BS is also a cheese of its own.
If the game is supposed to be unbalanced and you know that then don’t complain about people spamming you know what the game was going in y’all just need to use items and cheese the people who wanna spam or whatever, as far as rage quitting Bandai does need to do something about that there are literally items in game that let u use less ki for supers. If y’all don’t like it play something else, like tekken that’s more Balanced
Feel like the only thing needing to change about this game is when your waiting for an online match make it like tekken 8 where we see who it is and there disconnection rate and let us deny the match before it even goes into an online match other than that everyone knows the game was gonna be unbalanced and I doubt complaining is gonna change anything
We don’t care about it being unbalanced what isn’t happening is people playing dragonball. I’m sorry but you and me both know that broly going in a circle spamming ki blast is not dragonball. That is not the intention of the developers. It’s to recreate the show man
I agree with playing with capsules, but have you ever ran into a 7bar ssj4 gogeta with god ki capsule? The ki blast spam needs to be felt with no one wants to deal with that bro
@@anishawmackey4826 you crying about ki blast is how i know your lower that C rank lil bro
@@nerdstartm1895 I’ve ran into a few gogeta’s who wanna cheese but in all honesty I liv for the toxicity man cause I nearly got every capsule even brolys ring where I can deny people from transforming or doing fusion, I like the games direction and honestly if people using items is too much then turn it off and play ranked that way. People complain about this game like they don’t have options and it’s driving me crazy, if you want balance go play a different arena fighter or fighter z no tenkaichi game has been known for balance 😂
Not a lie told in this video. Bro spitting facts💯
Everything you said was soo valid. The only thing I would disagree with is that spike or bandai do have a part to play when it comes to giving the community THIS amount of leverage of abuse of these broken mechanics. They can simply just nerf or give these options a drawback, that way, ppl can actually enjoy and play the game on a competitive AND casual level and still have it be unbalanced.
I was inna hyperbolic time chamber for 8 hours now my super counter game crazy
I played for a couple hours today. I got about 12 plugs, TWELVE, and 6 of those were Broly players 💀. I have enough plugging clips to make a whole-ass plugging montage from a day’s worth of playing, in fact i’m thinking about just throwing one together this weekend because its actually insane.
Honestly, if you want to cheese, go for it, but players quitting rampantly mid match without any repercussions after they get countered for doing it, lack of playtesting leading to excessive and gamebreaking bugs, between both Sparking Zero and High ranks in Tekken, I think I might chill on Bamco games for a while cause they never address these specific playerbase issues, and it takes them forever to address stability issues and bugs. This company has made $5 billion from Tekken 8 and Sparking Zero sales alone, and they don’t put not a cent of that towards fixing these things before the damage is done, its always a bandaid fix before they start pushing dlc.
Just deleted it I work all day n just wanted to have fun like the old days some of my friends even being weird playing me like they’re life depends on it lmao like damn my guy
you really punished us by quitting and being low skill, please come back, what will we do without you.
@leremiasMoore-El I’m not “low skill” I got to S rank playing mid characters I’ll fk you up have a good day sir
I get its supposed 2 be "Lore Accurate", but I'd rather see teams balanced by same DP matchups. So a team of Raditz + Zarbon (3 DP each) could fight a final form freiza (6 dp). I think that way the players really dictate who they fight, while still giving room for the more powerful characters as well.
I think dp should affect how many skill items you can use, since skill items seem like they were initially intended to help the checks and balances of weaker vs. broken characters. Have skill items be affected by the dp of your character, and balance that. As it stands there are zero penalties for cheese, even rage quitting and that’s just not a strong playing field for a healthy game community.
Bandai needs to at least make a psa addressing of what’s happening and start saying the stuff they plan on changing/fixing. So many good games die out early due to poor developer response. No game worth any play time that’s released in todays gaming market does not have a community of players it immediately builds by default, and each games community needs communication from the developer, unless you are literally dropping indie single player games. Period.
I still have hope that somethings gonna improve, they at least did the Yajirobe nerf 2-3 weeks in, but Bandai needs to talk to us. It’s called building trust.
And it sucks that people are always gonna cheese and not play with honor cuz they don’t want to invest the time to actually get good, but if there’s zero penalty for a cheese, you’re only hurting the game itself. Why spend all this money making it and have the opportunity for it to live for a decade only to flop cuz you didn’t wanna fix cheese? Madness.
In any case, Coolio your videos are dope, despite all this mess I hope you keep making stuff because I’ve been really enjoying your content. Let’s spar sometime too, I’m tryna have a real match on here. PSN: Rawxstar
agreed they need to match players by dp in ranked and punish these rage quitters.
Not gone lie. Rank isn’t fun. I know rank is about winning but running into ppl who only want to win is boring af. Infuriating af. I played gogetas, vegetas, ui goku, giants, yajirobe teams with all low level characters that afterimage all day.
"even though i know ranked is about winning, playing ppl who want to win makes my brain ded" -dude who quits every match.
You’re by far my favorite RUclipsr on this game. But I feel like this is part of the problem. You got a hold the developers accountable for broken mechanics. They clearly didn’t test this before they release the game. I agree to give everyone the same health bar But besides that This game isn’t finished and has broken mechanics and overpowered characters you’re going to get players that exploit that in any game that you play. There are way too many get out of jail free cards in this game like super counters. if I punish someone for whiffing a move I should be able to get my full combo off unless you use a revenge counter which cost you skill points. the super counters are the worst thing about this game in my opinion because you get to break out of a combo for free
I agree. I got to A rank, with vegete super, and all I see is super vegeto. Ui goku, ss4 gogeta and LSS broly with his unblockable attack. SMH
Need real life friends to play this game with. Everyone is playing this game wrong it's not meant for online lol
Z Broly and full power jiren need to be stop! ki blast spam take no skills. I be whooping there ass the whole game they go into sparking and start spamming ki blast into ultimate. And the funny thing is affer your hit u get lock off the character and they go into sparking again and hit u with another ultimate thats insane and need to be fix
Them niggas become god when they go into sparking.
i be beating Z brolly with dlc kid goku......just be quiet small crying child.
The reason they are banning people for the mods are because it causes the game to crash for people who don't have the mod in public custom battles. You can still use the mods just not in a public custom.
They also tweeted that they are going to ban the rage quitters. So they claim
Nah not gon lie, if they had their balancing in mind (Which they said they wouldn't be thinking about) they would have prepared for this or been ready to balance it. It is quite literally the devs/ game makers fault that the game is like this because they wanted it to be like this from jump. I don't know what people thought would happen when they quite literally said there would be no balancing real balancing in this game. Rage quitting is different though.
it might be good for singles to have equal health bars like you said but equal attack, defense, etc.. stats nd the keeping the skills of the characters will keep the uniqueness of each character
Word to bro.
Give it a couple weeks when these cheese users dip out to play something else
Dont worry man, they already patched yagirobe, broly is next. They will fix it trust
There should be 3 type of single ranked matches Dp 1 to 4, Dp 5 to 8 and 9 to 11 no holds bard
Yeah but your dp's are a lil off. Should be more like 1 to 3, then 4 to 7 and 8 to 10. Would be more balanced
I thought about something like that too. But I think the bigger issue is the skills characters have and hire people abuse them easily. Their whole gameplay and gamestyle revolves around gimmicks and not really fighting. They have a huge issue gameplay wise
W Video i agree w err thing u said gang ppl juss love being cheesey
I swear I faced someone kept spamming counters 🤦🏻and they told me to get better like bruh they kept countering
No you’re actually trash dude, “spamming counters” isn’t a thing, press triangle… side step… mix up your combos
Bro you are growing hella fast ima start making videos lol. I just got the last thing I need to start streaming with face cam and shit 💯
only change should be penalty for leaving match
I agree with this 💯
: it’ll be perfect once they adjust some things lol for example people with unblockable ults should not have an instant sparking and they need to limit the amount times u can vanish that n crossplay
Sent you an email, great vid as always
I dont understand why people cry about people who spam. "THERES NO RULES TO FIGHTING" when all the older DBZ games even back then there were always people trying to cheese. There's nothing you can do about it no point about crying about just find a way to beat it. Once you learn how to beat something like that then you get even better. As for the rage quitters they need to ban them or stop them from leaving the game. But at the end of the day you can't make these people fight how you want them to fight. Every game I've played when it's a VS theres been someone trying to spam. There's no way you think that people not going to do it theres always a way to cheese. Genz's just not real gamers 😂
Because it's not enjoyable to fight
It's literally the same than campers in COD. Why people cry about campers if there isn't any rule that tell people where they can be or not? Because it's not fun when you are in the other side, you don't enter a COD so someone that is hide in a corner shoot you in the back, you enter a COD so you run around the map like a monkey killing others while other people also run around like a monkey killing you
And here is literally the same, it's not hard to understand, people want to enter into their dragon ball fighting game to have dragon ball fights, not to have some dude abusing X cheesy thing they saw in RUclips
unc, no one sane enjoys fighting 3 giants (with instant spark and hyper armor) broly hyper armor, instant spark, infinite ki blast stun, and a guaranteed ult to land while you’re in deflecting animation. And then when you beat the cheesers, they leave so you gain nothing. Obviously people are going to cheese in every fighting game, but when it’s almost every match, it’s not fun for either player. The cheeser is gonna get bored at some point of winning with cheese easily, and the player playing normal is gonna get bored of going against it. If you think this is healthy for the game you’re beyond delusional. It doesn’t matter if the older games were like this, bt3 is 17 years old☠️
I'm sorry but there is curently a tech in game that allow Zero counter, AT ALL. I won't disclose how for now but there is no counter around it, it has something to do with Ki Blast. This game is just straight up a broken mess game and you should feedback to the developer TO MAKE THEM DO THEIR DAMN JOB. I don't know why yall love to suck Bandai's dick by saying there's nothing wrong with the game and calling the complainers "Ungrateful", Ungrateful my ass, i pay money so i must received back a complete product, not a broken mess of a game.
@@jstnfr About the argument if "But Budokai Tenkaichi 3 was like this"
That's it a complete lie and whoever say that it full of bullshit.
First of all Budokai Tenkaichi 3 WAS NOT LIKE THIS, a lot of the debuff, limitations and things that prevented this from happening has been removed or changed in favour of the cheese things: Ki fatigue, the way the skill points now recover with everything (before wasn't like this), the speed of some things like Senzu beans, etc. Budokai Tenkaichi 3, was not like this, it was harder, with less hand holding and more debuff and penalties for spamming, what we have in Sparking Zero is a symptom of modern games that try to make everything easy and affordable to everyone, creating situations like this.
And that said, even if Sparking Zero was a 1:1 of Budokai Tenkaichi 3, the context has changed, it's not the same how we played with our friends and family 17 years ago, as how online people play nowadays, those are 2 completely different environments, and what 17 years ago wouldn't be a problem because people didn't played to ruin the experience to their friends, no with online addition it's a real problem, so that things of Sparking Zero is like Budokai Tenkaichi 3 it's a complete lie
@@muglokdecrepitus1301 nah, youre straight up lying
I hate the people who were saying this needs to be unbalanced and never patched "We the community want it this way" I was who is we ? This aint 2006 its 2024 i want it balanced towards being Fun! Competitive or not This game isnt fun no more
It's the same mfs that was playing shinobi striker i promise
After image strike is easy to deal with dodge with they as i do it all the time but my problem is broly and the people blocking the whole time and steady holding the b circle or wtv it is on pc
Ong cant even go online and enjoy a game no more. If you not prepared to do whatever is necessary to win then you are not gonna enjoy any pvp game
We lost cerostv bro 😢
Who cares man?
That dude is an embarrassment
Just came across your channel by courtesy of RUclips algorithm.
Bro, people don’t want to hear what you’re saying because they need their crutches. They don’t want to “best” you in a fight they want to put you in a “block the unblockable, haha” situation.
You ain’t even hit on people who play with terrible connection and the fact that the game doesn’t have rollback net code. Imagine tryna time your vanishes perfectly against someone who is using super Vagito or Z Broly.
The way I see it moving forward is, play it for the story and all the nostalgia it has to offer then after it runs its course, Marvel Rivals will be out.
I see no lies.
you wilding unc
Bro I took a break from rank and did player match, it’s the same shit too. And I’m not too bad at the game top 5k on Xbox B3 in singles.
This is what a budokai tenkaichi game is bro… it’s always been like this. It’s just online multiplayer gaming is huge now so all of the exploits are seen by everyone and not just your homies at home. No need to complain. True fans knew this kind of thing would happen. It’s a combat game, and a good one at that. Just enjoy the grind or pick a different game I suggest
What was the point in mentioning that it was a “combat game” I don’t see how that added to your point. Also a “true fan”🙄would know that vanishing was not this easy and perception changes A LOT. Dude even mentioned in the video that Ki sickness was in bt3 and not this which would have helped a ton.
I have a question would you consider hit a balanced character or cheesy character in this game?
He’s pretty balanced imo.
@doncooli0 I said the same thing lol. Thanks for responding 😊
I am a huge fan of bt3 but here we have way too much cheeze. Not as enjoyable as bt3.
I see where you coming from honestly, but rank is a joke. I just play the game to have fun for real.
Lets play space marine 2 guys hop on
3:44 this was cold iwl gang
Also why Jiren transformation look unfinished as fuck? Why we get SS2 Cabba in a game finally but not even just SS caulifla??? Or SS2 Future Trunks? Why can’t Kale transform from Berserk to controlled state like in the anime? Not even a separate SS Rage transformation for Trunks? EVERY other Tenkaichi/sparking game Perfect Cell could transform to Super Perfect Cell. Not in this one!! It takes me out of it a bit when I feel the predecessor games have features that I should have on a damn ps5!! Raging blast I could customize my supers and ultimates, aura, and cosmetics on any character. They love what ifs in this game but don’t wanna bring back SS3 Vegeta or Broly? You can do whatever you want! Little things like this I noticed just make me feel like somethings were rushed but for what?
Ngl I feel that SS3 Vegeta and Broly part fr. And the colored auras too
Man to all the people ignoring the obvious flaws. I don’t want to hear when y’all gotta wait 15 minutes to find a 800 ping match cause y’all wanted an unfun spammy mess of a game, that didn’t get patched. 😂
I'm praying on this game's downfall ngl. I'm a hater, fuck it. Might as well admit it
🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😂
it already fell off
@@IeremiasMoore-El Let's hope the numbers keep dropping then
Lol why you a hater tho
@alphadookie5968 Super Counter/Perception are way too free, they need to either cost something or be removed, unblockable ults, broken, frozen controls at times (I'm not talking about the bug with the supers that got patched, I mean my character literally freezes up at times when I go in for my square combos), instant Sparking moves, the fuckass trash lock-on system, giants, Afterimage Strike, (yes, I mean it. Deadass..I know how to get around it but I still hate it), but yeah that's why...how free Super Counter and Perception are creases me the most, I could put up with the rest of the bullshit if these two mechanics were not in the game. Revenge Counter is good enough, just buff it so it can be used when you're taking backshots and it'll be perfect. We don't need two extra ugly ass broken ass defense mechanics.
Done
Pls don’t call me that💔
My take is, if you wanna play a competitive fighting game, play Tekken or Street Fighter. Don’t play this or get upset that this game is doing what arena fighters do best, make an unbalanced party game.
06:53 ive been saying this for timeee bro! How I might using base future gohan and only matching against ui gokus and ssj4 gogeta. Just on singles at least
yea and using op broken ability items
Nah fr, I’m just tryna get to A rank and I’ll never play ranked again 😂 shit just ssj4/mui/or jiren instant sparking or super vegito after image
I've been running into nothing but ui goku, ssj4 Gogeta, whis and great ape baby players. I was like yeah I'll just stick to playing online with friends in this game😂
@@IM-T0XIC mannn I just got into a match with a Great Ape baby player 😂😂 why would they even let you play giant characters in ranked is beyond me
@@nocapp_ stop at A for your own sanity, it gets worse. Like after A4, shit is maddening. Its Z Broly, Super Vegito, Full Power Jiren, MUI, and SSJ4 Gogeta almost exclusively. And honestly? SSJ4 imo is probably the most tolerable one. Learning how to counter wildsense will drastically improve your matchups. Everyone else though? Good luck. 💀
It’s annoying but it’s funny when you get ahead of the cheesy bastard😂 they know one thing and cant adapt. Plus game has bad sounds and super animation so its been an 8
Xenoverse haters deserved this
nah you cant blame the players bro, the game is made this way, it needs to be fleshed out more
No chunksoft broke it goofy
Bro Im here playing 3 giants, roshi and satan haha loving it here in Z rank!
youre the problem bruh 💀💀💀
CRYING IS CRAZY FOR AN ADULT MAN.... this game is not a 10/10 without ranked......Elden Ring is a 10/10 game ....ya'll just overhyped for nostalgia and crying about everything in the game.......this game is a 6/10 at best.....Every other match someone is lag switchin or quitting.....and then there is the toxic community *caugh *caugh ...
DiddyCoolio😂😂
Nah, people get good, it's just natural with any game, you can NOT complain about people using a mechanic in the game, it's in there to use, After image recharges so fast that why wouldn't you use it? Also I find the SZ community to be very hypocritical, they where praising the game for being "unbalanced" yet they cry because every match it's the same character "oh but it's more faithful to the series" WELL MY GUY YOU ASKED FOR THAT. And it's more funny since you can just play casuals yet they refuse to do that
Also, the sparking combo into ultimate, is literally spamming square, pressing triangle and then the Ult. Since the moment the game launched I thought it was just peak stupidy to make ultimates not only unblockable, BUT ALSO TRACK, the tracking for normal supers is amazing, but for unblockable and now un-dodgeable (with plain movement) moves.... nah, in BT3 the vanish to the side of the ultimate was pretty consistent, stil failed it from time to time but it felt like my fault, in SZ I honestly could never do it, I know it's a skill issue, but wasn't this game supposed to be fun in casual like BT3? why do I have to master a high level timing for dodging a literal nuclear bomb that takes 2 bars from me.
A long rant but honestly, I am starting to hate the game and the community, also Bandai too.
Shut the hell up
"Yo, everyone using broken stuff like after image strike, then you do."
Well, what if I don't? What if I want a normal fight, but all I see is everyone abusing op characters and spam them? Just because of that, I don't wanna even touch them. And you tell me "well then just use what they use". They use it because it wins the game for then. I DON'T USE IT because I wanna play the game for myself, while these monkeys do the same stuff every match. Literally today, I was fought 5 Gogeta in a row. AND IT WAS ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!!!. I never rematch these monkeys ether I win or lose BUT STILL I GOT 5 GOGETA IN A ROW!!! AND YOU SAY THIS IS OK? DO YOU EVEN SAW HOW THEY FIGHT? SPAM SQUARE, SPARKING, ULT. THAT'S ALL.
If they try to do this stuff on another character they will be washed cuz Gogeta has top stats and only because of this, they can nobrain win matches.
Most fun part is when you defeat some of them. You know what you get for your sweaty win? Nothing. They just quit losing nothing and giving you nothing.
I can’t blame u brudda.
@@ExecuteMe0go play with friends and stop playing online
Bro your the problem, it’s the same shit in casuals