Peter declares himself out and yet seems to feel the need to argue about Richard’s deal on behalf of the entrepreneur. So weird. It’s clear he didn’t like the competition coming from Richard.
So you’re greedy if you’re taking more from him but treating him badly for defending his company? Apparently the dragons can never do good in some peoples eyes
Really? He's tried intimidating people again and again. I remember him setting a time limit on an offer and doing a countdown while a poor guy stood there trying to talk to other dragons.
Hah, okay. He constantly tries to twist people's arms into accepting bad offers. He's even pressed people to accept his offer before they've even heard from all of the other dragons, on multiple occasions.
I thought it was annoying in this case though, because he was already out. It was rude of him to butt in and try to influence an offer he has nothing to do with.
That washing line product - I just don't get it. Sure, it can stop rain that falls totally vertically, but how can it keep clothes dry when the wind is blowing the rain horizontally at the clothes (like it is doing outside my window right now)?
The nervous woman clearly had a chip on her shoulder about feminism. Imagine working with her. You'd have to watch everything you said so that she didn't twist only and use it against you.
You're right. It's because during one of the bbc's parties, Peter's wife was flirting with Richard, and since then Peter doesn't like Richard :( Rumors are Richard actually busted Peter's wife cheeks, but nothing has been confirmed.
Are the Dragons 21 years old or Roger? I think Roger was more calm and composed than the dragons themselves, and outsmart the dragons before they pull down the offer on his 1st of many products. Peter was an unnecessary attraction...
I really do not see how the clothes hanger works in not getting the clothes wet. If it is a gentle rain that falls straight down with no wind maybe.. But if you get rain coming in and whipping going sideways from a good wind the clothes are going to get wet. If the protective sheet came down from the side and encased the clothes in then I can see the clothes not getting wet. But rain does not just fall down exactly straight. Just like an umbrella is not ideal for all types of rain events neither is this.
i dont get Jones in the first case. he has already declared himself out. then he should STFU when others wiggle around to make deals. its not his anymore. he is out
A 20 to 1 ratio of men to women in construction job applications would mean that even if it was a woman doing the hiring they would still be more likely to hire a man.
Offering more work opportunities for women in the physical labor and construction industry is fantastic. However, their attitude is horrible. There's a way to achieve their goal while being constructive, but this is not it. Women do get employed less than men in that industry, but to discriminate against all male employers is shocking. There is no change unless both parties work together and she's working against them.
Thats not true I've worked for many a so called mans domain and taken on over men its the level of skills you have not what gender you are plus flippant remarks like that doesn't sit well
Lol! Love it! 😄 Peter feels threatened by Richard. His ego can't take it. Richard hasn't got the insecurities Peter has + he has his ego firmly in check. He's one of my favourite dragons ❤
It's really a shame that Chrissy just stood by , silent, and let her coworker Jude crucify herself. I would have tried to shush Jude and taken over the pitch.
It's not her fault that her partner has a terrible attitude, and it's not her fault that she just says whatever comes into her head without thinking. She sounds like she hates men and there's no way she should be incharge of any company
@@marchumphreys3865 she is actually the sexist, and based up your response I would guess you are in the same category. Not that I care, you do you boo boo, it just has to make for a miserable existence to wake up every morning wondering how you are going to be a victim today.
Have you not noticed it's always the one on the left end that doesn't last long? Deborah and Peter seem to be really close pals wouldn't you say, I swear they have at least kissed
While I like Debrah, you can often see she is business partner and close friend with Peter. They often prop each other up and work together to undermine other dragons, so one of them wins the desired product.
One of the things that was characteristic of Dragons' Den during Theo's early years was that he would repeatedly row in behind whatever Peter said and the first clip here's a classic example. Theo wouldn't have kicked off about the percentages unless Peter had already done the same.
The deal with the first gentleman, Rotormate did not go through after the show and Rotomate is no longer in business. The young man who pitched it is probably doing well in life. He seemed smart and motivated.
He seemed a bit dim really. He thinks that because there are four main manufacturers, they must all have an equal share of the market. I'm not even sure how you could think that would be the case, even with the most basic knowledge.
How come people never negotiate properly? Isn't that like the first rule of trading or is it different when you go to investors? They say 10%, Dragons say they want 15% and 75% of idiots coming on then say "Yea dats kinda my company, can you go down pls?". This is more a general question after binging alot of stuff on here
Also after watching a lot of Den I think some of the enterpreneurs from the very beggining purposely overprice their companies just to have better starting point in negotiations or not to have to negotiate any further when the dragons' bid is way over initial percentage offer. It's the enterpreneurs who overprice their businesses extremely, starting with giving up not more than 1-3% of the equity, that are ridiculed by the dragons, Peter especially.
I like how the dragons called out Deborah and Richard for demanding 40% of that young guy's business. It shows they do have morals and don't like to see people taken advantage of. It's a shame that he sold 40% of his business but on the plus side maybe it helped him get started. It's also interesting to see how the two highly defensive entrepreneurs had zero self awareness, and instead 100% blamed the dragons, unable to see their own bad attitudes. There's people like that in a lot of workplaces and they're so difficult to work with.
18:25 she confused why 19/20 is a higher probability then 1/20 lol cant believe these types of people are the norm now, their business is "discriminate against men" lol
I saw that too, they are louder than you might think (I have 3 of them) but while the operator should probably wear one, there is no way the dragons across the room needed any.
Haha, it was great watching that woman get crushed. She also destroyed her own argument. "if 20 men show up and one woman, a man is going to be hired." Yeah, exactly, that is why there are more men in trade work, because more men are interested. Her attempt at fighting discrimination (that doesn't exist) is very descriminatory.
She was misguided, had a terrible attitude and was awful. But, gender-based work discrimination is a very real thing. It's happened for a long time and continues to happen. There is an abundance of empirical evidence to support that.
What a legend that Roger is. Builds a credible business and man enough to admit his mother does his washing for him.
“Because the market is so big, we can’t ascertain where it is”.
- the dumbest thing ever spoken.
Time to find out which dragon has been unusually quiet today
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Lol. You caught on the script.
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Peter was COMPLETELY out of order with the first pitch....he was out....
Peter declares himself out and yet seems to feel the need to argue about Richard’s deal on behalf of the entrepreneur. So weird. It’s clear he didn’t like the competition coming from Richard.
Because Richard’s combination of greed and stupidity was unfair to the 21 year old
Peter felt protective of the boy
So you’re greedy if you’re taking more from him but treating him badly for defending his company? Apparently the dragons can never do good in some peoples eyes
Wasn't it debra who upped the percepage first ? Why would Richard take less than debra ?
Roger is a cool guy under pressure. He wasn't phased at all.
Imagine working with Jude - what a nightmare 😳
Imagine dating her!
Aussies have thick skin I love Richard.
Me too. And no inflated ego 👍
Classic trolling from Richard from the outset. Love it 😂
Peter was quite clearly jealous of Richard. Wonder why...
Hair.
Richard wasn't scared of Peter at all.
No… he just felt protective of the boy
Richard is more a genuine person and Peter is egotistical
Good for you Theo for standing up to the lady who made the sweeping statement about your integrity.
28:41. Piers laughing at the man's clash with Peter is wholesome. Some what reminiscent of my primary school days
40% is outrageous …unless I want it.
Theo really acted like Peter's lackey in the first pitch. Absolute pair of clowns.
13:43 not nerves just stairs.
OMG, I'm dead! 😂
That's probably why in next seasons there has been lift installed. 🤣🤣🤣
I’m sorry this is why I love Peter Jones, because he won’t let someone be in weak position because they feel intimidated by the dragons.
Really? He's tried intimidating people again and again. I remember him setting a time limit on an offer and doing a countdown while a poor guy stood there trying to talk to other dragons.
Hah, okay. He constantly tries to twist people's arms into accepting bad offers. He's even pressed people to accept his offer before they've even heard from all of the other dragons, on multiple occasions.
He obviously pounced in an opportunistic manner on the guy with all the fancy hair. Well done Peter Jones.
I thought it was annoying in this case though, because he was already out. It was rude of him to butt in and try to influence an offer he has nothing to do with.
That washing line product - I just don't get it. Sure, it can stop rain that falls totally vertically, but how can it keep clothes dry when the wind is blowing the rain horizontally at the clothes (like it is doing outside my window right now)?
I was thinking the same thing. It was clear he wasn't experienced at laundry. I also feel like the cover might cause damp and mildew.
That Jude woman is making her business partner pray that they should just wrap it up and get out of there ASAP.
Her business partner should have just told her shut it and took over the pitch!
She's probably Jude's brother's wife and secretly enjoys watching sister-in-law crashing and burning.
She hasn't got a chip on her shoulder, she got a boulder on each shoulder!
I was initially rooting for the nervous big girl. Then it became quickly apparent that she wasn't worth it. Really terrible attitude.
Me too. Anyone can be nervous and deserves support and encouragement. But then her attitude emerged and it was pretty shocking.
Sure, but would you put a slate on their roof for *two* tenners?
“If you have 20 men and one women going for a job”.
Why aren’t there 20 men and 20 women going for the job?
Probably because it's a sexist work environment not many women would like to be a part of.
Ask women
She'd obviously rehearsed that burn but got it the wrong way round lol.
The nervous woman clearly had a chip on her shoulder about feminism. Imagine working with her. You'd have to watch everything you said so that she didn't twist only and use it against you.
Robbed at 21 year old of his product and then laughed about it wow 😳
That first guy's mum calls him Tiger.
How does Chrissy even work with Jude. Horrible attitude
I bet you she’s bin too afraid to tell her her problem so today was justice day.
Chrissy is Jude's Rory. 😆
@@WedrownyGrajek Underated comment. I wonder how the cold lonely beaches of Scotland are
🚽10:42 poor boy! pooped 💩from Dragons performance 😊
1st one just looks like an inside out umbrella.
Is it just me or do Richard and Peter really not like each other. They seem to argue in a lot of episodes.
You're right. It's because during one of the bbc's parties, Peter's wife was flirting with Richard, and since then Peter doesn't like Richard :( Rumors are Richard actually busted Peter's wife cheeks, but nothing has been confirmed.
Can confirm I heard the cheeks rumour on the bus last week
@@mateuszg6042 Busted her cheeks? You mean he assaulted her?
@@BenjaminGoose Yep, his gentleman sausage assaulted her lady clam. Allegedly.
@@mateuszg6042 I hope to God he actually did since Peter is a complete dick towards him
1:07 my boy duncan's face 🤣
Chrisi needs to get rid of the dog
Those two women did the worst pitch in history.
Bless roger!! He seems such a good boy
Are the Dragons 21 years old or Roger? I think Roger was more calm and composed than the dragons themselves, and outsmart the dragons before they pull down the offer on his 1st of many products. Peter was an unnecessary attraction...
Theo what a worm!
Charming young man
'..I wouldn't put a slate on their roof for a tenner' 😂
Literally the most low socioeconomic class statement he could say 🤣
There really are too many ads on RUclips
Fine if rain falls vertically straight...
2 seconds in and this woman is already crying. Like they haven't said anything yet!
Duncan is so arrogant!!!
I really do not see how the clothes hanger works in not getting the clothes wet. If it is a gentle rain that falls straight down with no wind maybe.. But if you get rain coming in and whipping going sideways from a good wind the clothes are going to get wet. If the protective sheet came down from the side and encased the clothes in then I can see the clothes not getting wet. But rain does not just fall down exactly straight. Just like an umbrella is not ideal for all types of rain events neither is this.
I tell you what. I wouldn't put a slate on his roof for a tenner.
Early days Peter Jones was so insufferable
i dont get Jones in the first case. he has already declared himself out. then he should STFU when others wiggle around to make deals. its not his anymore. he is out
We dont appreciate Duncan enough
He's terrifying!
We're ALL... ...WRONG!
'Are you offering us 20% of both of the companies?'
'Yes. 5% of one, and 15% of the other. That's 20%.'
*why women shouldn't have the vote*
A 20 to 1 ratio of men to women in construction job applications would mean that even if it was a woman doing the hiring they would still be more likely to hire a man.
Since when they let buzzfeed in dragons den. I'm a wamen and don't even want construction to be my career wether they want me to or not
The second ones were awful
2) What's wrong with blackdecker workmate?
Imagine Jordan Peterson being one of the Dragons during that brick laying 'pitch'.
Judy, ffs
qhuite a marathon
ahh yorkshire :) joking, most are not like this. :)
Offering more work opportunities for women in the physical labor and construction industry is fantastic.
However, their attitude is horrible. There's a way to achieve their goal while being constructive, but this is not it.
Women do get employed less than men in that industry, but to discriminate against all male employers is shocking.
There is no change unless both parties work together and she's working against them.
I hope Chrissy split with Jude after this pitch, so that Jude cannot drag her down with her.
Peter called Richard a C^&T whilst drinking his water. 8:10
The early days of the toxic feminism we face nowadays
Thats not true I've worked for many a so called mans domain and taken on over men its the level of skills you have not what gender you are plus flippant remarks like that doesn't sit well
Karen’s
This is how modern feminism started
m oot by duncan banatyne
Not everyone owns a chainsaw in the long run
9:43 the subtle middle-finger from Richard 💀
Lol! Love it! 😄
Peter feels threatened by Richard. His ego can't take it.
Richard hasn't got the insecurities Peter has + he has his ego firmly in check. He's one of my favourite dragons ❤
It's the ring finger. Richard is too classy to do that
This video should be labled, "Watch this to increase your anxiety and depression."
It's really a shame that Chrissy just stood by , silent, and let her coworker Jude crucify herself. I would have tried to shush Jude and taken over the pitch.
Crazy isn’t it? Seemed like she enjoyed it somewhat
@@SeanKiernan420 yes so true. She had a little grin on her face when she started talking.
It's not her fault that her partner has a terrible attitude, and it's not her fault that she just says whatever comes into her head without thinking. She sounds like she hates men and there's no way she should be incharge of any company
@@MyFantapants I think Chrissy is just VERY agreeable and finally got to see Jude get what she deserves. She’s the worst kind of woman tbh
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That woman gave a good demonstration of why not to hire people based on gender but on their merits.
Agreed.
She's more interested in the act of socially engineering outcomes based on gender.
@@BruceWat She is also sexist
Your doing it again you stuck up sexism blight on society
@@marchumphreys3865 she is actually the sexist, and based up your response I would guess you are in the same category. Not that I care, you do you boo boo, it just has to make for a miserable existence to wake up every morning wondering how you are going to be a victim today.
I still feel Peter had Richard removed from the show, was chuffed to see Richard take no nonsense from Peter here. Shame he's still not a dragon.
Have you not noticed it's always the one on the left end that doesn't last long? Deborah and Peter seem to be really close pals wouldn't you say, I swear they have at least kissed
@@shaunohagan1491 it is ironically
That’s not the reason why Richard Farleigh left.
@@zacharyjacobson7506 naaw you don't say. did you really think I thought he left the show due to his seating arrangement?
@@shaunohagan1491 yes
You cant beat a nice bit of den when you need entertainment right now without fuss.
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Dude spoke like he was expecting to go in talking to an audience of wood cutters.
While I like Debrah, you can often see she is business partner and close friend with Peter. They often prop each other up and work together to undermine other dragons, so one of them wins the desired product.
One of the things that was characteristic of Dragons' Den during Theo's early years was that he would repeatedly row in behind whatever Peter said and the first clip here's a classic example. Theo wouldn't have kicked off about the percentages unless Peter had already done the same.
He was Peter's lackey in that pitch.
The deal with the first gentleman, Rotormate did not go through after the show and Rotomate is no longer in business. The young man who pitched it is probably doing well in life. He seemed smart and motivated.
Rotorvated
Appreciate
He seemed a bit dim really. He thinks that because there are four main manufacturers, they must all have an equal share of the market. I'm not even sure how you could think that would be the case, even with the most basic knowledge.
@@arnold8746 True about him being naive about the market share of the manufacturers.
I hope he's doing well too. Personally, I would have tried to barter the offer down to 15% each but there we go.
Look's like Theo the Fetus won't be giving anyone his children's inheritance...
Theo the fetus 😂
And it looks like Theo the fetus… read that in the narrators voice and it’s hilarious
Eyyy, a new and original comment that's legitimately funny, take my like!
Not even his children
Hilarious to see Mr Greedy sniping at Richard about increasing his %.
Peter’s ego is so unappealing. Makes Richard look like a saint
The 2nd pitch went awful. Her whole thing is gender fairness and then instantly makes a joke about women being dumb? Which side is she on
Theo Vs that Karen was hilarous
The Truncator. The gift that keeps on giving.
Typically a feminist offends a man and can't see the irony.
The first pitch if only the young chap had a second business so Peter can be in and take both for a outrageous offer
Great dragons
Richard is a top bloke
Am I missing something or did Deborah offer all the money for
20% and Richard thought it was for half the money ?
You are right
I thought so but watching it back she doesnt say how much money. You can assume she was saying for all the money but she was cut off.
@@shield_maiden_
But Debbs did not correct Richard Farley; so she must have wanted to split the 20% offer with him.
Richard was by far the worst dragon
@@redblade8160 because she was getting a better deal , have you ever seen someone offer half the money it not say for half the money ?
It’s the sad reality of bitter feminists these days that is actually in fashion to encourage
Happy see duncan back up richard
Judy doesn’t have a chip on her shoulder…and if she did, she would eat it.
That's a funnier comment than it first looked.
eaten*
@@BenjaminGoose Good luck correcting that in the future. Half of Britain speaks that way.
I feel really bad for laughing at that
Instead of the devil and angel on her shoulder it's a bag of funyuns and a bag or doritos 😂💀
How come people never negotiate properly? Isn't that like the first rule of trading or is it different when you go to investors? They say 10%, Dragons say they want 15% and 75% of idiots coming on then say "Yea dats kinda my company, can you go down pls?". This is more a general question after binging alot of stuff on here
Also after watching a lot of Den I think some of the enterpreneurs from the very beggining purposely overprice their companies just to have better starting point in negotiations or not to have to negotiate any further when the dragons' bid is way over initial percentage offer. It's the enterpreneurs who overprice their businesses extremely, starting with giving up not more than 1-3% of the equity, that are ridiculed by the dragons, Peter especially.
Jude, I am *cringing* to death.
I like how the dragons called out Deborah and Richard for demanding 40% of that young guy's business. It shows they do have morals and don't like to see people taken advantage of. It's a shame that he sold 40% of his business but on the plus side maybe it helped him get started.
It's also interesting to see how the two highly defensive entrepreneurs had zero self awareness, and instead 100% blamed the dragons, unable to see their own bad attitudes. There's people like that in a lot of workplaces and they're so difficult to work with.
It looked like Peter was just trying to look for ANY possible flaw not to invest in that great young man.
The quiet woman needs to dump the mouthy one quick time in a hurry...
15:29 - You should never hire someone based solely on their gender, race, beliefs, etc. That’s just pathetic
Peter was ANNOYIN on the 1st pitch he should've kept his mouth shut especially cause he didn't make an offer
18:25 she confused why 19/20 is a higher probability then 1/20 lol
cant believe these types of people are the norm now, their business is "discriminate against men" lol
She was just ahead of her time lol
You need ear defenders here....Pulls out an ELECTRIC chain saw!
I saw that too, they are louder than you might think (I have 3 of them) but while the operator should probably wear one, there is no way the dragons across the room needed any.
That man walked in and got screwed lmao
Like when your mom walks in on a Friday night
Who?
Haha, it was great watching that woman get crushed. She also destroyed her own argument. "if 20 men show up and one woman, a man is going to be hired." Yeah, exactly, that is why there are more men in trade work, because more men are interested. Her attempt at fighting discrimination (that doesn't exist) is very descriminatory.
She was so annoying
Men: "we're not sexist!"
Also men: "ahh yes it brings me great pleasure to see you crush these women ahhhh"
Get a gf buddy ❤
@@uhuju1 Get a functioning brain
She was misguided, had a terrible attitude and was awful.
But, gender-based work discrimination is a very real thing. It's happened for a long time and continues to happen.
There is an abundance of empirical evidence to support that.
@@hithisthers7214 yeah she was a really annoying individual
0:37 in I'm already thinking wind drives rain to the side you lazy muppet! 🤣🤷♂
Evolution Solutions is back once more!
Always a fun one.