A number of people have called out that the car may not have been in “octane learning mode” during the performance runs. It’s a strange thing given the knock sensor should take care of that almost immediately. But I’ll get the car back and run it through the learning mode and try performance runs again to see if it makes a difference.
I absolutely agree with this, ‘octane learning mode’ to me sounds like a whole bunch of nonsense, engines have had knock sensors for decades, which are used to advance or retard ignition timing. This whole thing about running premium fuel and the car then increasing boost pressure seems rather strange, perhaps the engineers who frequent YT comment sections can educate a scrote like me?
@@rsoul7282 it's a BS mode that us N owners complain about but it must be for some kind of engine protection that will only provide maximum boost when it senses the octane rating above 95 I'd assume
@@matt.ja90 I totally get that, but I don’t understand how the vehicle could possibly be ‘analysing the fuel’, are there a team of dwarves confined to the fuel tank with a chemistry set, or are Hyundai bigging up the knock sensor as if it is some modern marvel of engineering prowess exclusively featured on their cars?
Now that my kids are older and I no longer need an SUV, I'm back in a sedan and it's so much better. More comfortable and handles like a dream. This car is on my list to buy. Love the look of it and the performance.
@@mharro88 LOL.. Michael, I'm afraid you're in a very small camp of previous owners who are butt hurt and are struggling to accept that their car is ugly. So you spend all your time hunting down all the 24 model year RUclips videos and commenting on how bad it looks 😂 How many have you commented on, just today? Go on, please share it with the class...?
@@CrystalNinja07nearly every group I'm involved in plus actual TCR drivers prefer the PFL design LOL. It's more aggressive to some ugly sure but it looked more track ready, the new one looks like a N-line with Kia vibes. I think it's hilarious you waited 2 years just because you didn't like the design, when's the changes are quite minimal really. They've completely ruined a unique the design in my opinion , especially from the back. The only good thing about this are the flat badges and forged wheels. Apart from that it's heavier and looking slower to 100 by the looks of it
This is truly drop dead gorgeous, unique and beautiful, so great to see some head turning design on our roads instead of just big boxes on wheels, and don't get me started on that party time of an exhaust system, it's hilarious and fabulous 😊😊😊
I have to say my 22 Model has never disappointed, Cant imagine anything else on the new Car market giving such bang for buck and I'm one of those people who adores the way it looks.
@@joec.5009 I respect your opinion! The Golf may come across as grown up and a little dull, but there is 50 years worth of heritage to live up to and I believe timeless design compared to Hyundai's young upstart. I don't think the i30 Sedan will age well with such a polarizing design, however they seem to be selling which suggests there is a market for such a car. Though I would get an i30 N Hatch or Sportback instead.
@@givvia6782 In the US, we don't typically associate Volkswagen (VW) with 'heritage'. Hyundai and Kia had a bad reputation in the past, but they are working to improve their image drastically. I do agree these designs are not timeless. but so is most new cars. i can't stand to look at the latest bmws. I used to be brand loyal, always driving BMW 3 Series, and now I'm on my second X5. However, I'm now considering the Hyundai Ioniq 5N for my next car. I'm really excited about it. I've never really been interested in driving a GTI. Here, the GTI is just another car. Maybe the Golf R would catch my attention, but the GTI doesn't. Many people still believe VWs are unreliable; they have a bad reputation for reliability. i've driven these fun cars. Elantra (i30) N is by far the most fun car i've driven since my E46 M3.
I really love the facelift but the fact that adaptive cruise control, 360° camera, blind spot monitor view, and 2 additional rear airbags are omitted from Australian models is absolutely mind boggling, I would have paid extra if they were added as an option! Such a dumb ass move from Hyundai Australia! 👎 It's back to the drawing board for me! 🤦🏻♂️😤
Greetings from Germany. Those Hyundais don't compete with other Asian brands they compete with GOLFs GTI or even Rs. An at least here the kill them... If you are around 20 you dream about a Hyundai. Because it is fun and way more affordable. You won't find GTI tuning clubs anymore here but Hyundai... Auf Wiedersehen
@@mharro88 golf r is all wheel drive and type r has 40 more horsepower and is like 20k more expensive it could compare to gti clubsport but even that is way more expensive
@@Kuku_hihi yes all on paper but actual Lap times they're all close the Elantra N beat the golf R in many videos on here with professional drivers on track
Servaus from barvaria (franken). I see lots of seat, skoda, Citroën sporty hatchbacks. Really like the audi a3 and vw Sirocco which do not come to US market. I was thinking to buy one and ship it back to US and sell it for a higher price.
The pre face lift (22-23) is a better design.. it looks like they tried to force the sonata front end on it, the hood doesnt meet the lights properly. Get the pre facelift 22-23 model and fit powerflex bushings.. its better
We had the 2024 sonata unfortunately nothing but issues, Hyundai was unable to find the reason I would steer clear until they’ve resolved this issue cause a number of them have been brought back with the same issues I had. Pity though it was an awesome car when it wasn’t playing up
This car looks so much better than the last version at the front. It also represents excellent value for money and can be driven in normal mode which takes away its boy racer attitude and is great for the day to day drive. I would buy it in a more discreet colour as I did with my i30n hatch. If I had to turn off annoying beeps every time I got in the car, its a deal breaker for me.
"Boy racer attitude"😂 Um this new design still has that "boy racer attitude", like every thing about it is "boy racer" although they should be their own models seprate from the hatch version that everyone knows an i30 as
I was originally wanting the hatch/fastback of the i30N since I preferred hatches, found out the sedan had ventilated seats which was kinda a selling point for me and was just overall a better car imo from reviews I watched. Picked up my 2022 Sedan N about 6 months ago and made the compromise for the sedan even though I prefer the more practicality of hatchbacks. Absolute it love it though and no regrets! Such a good looking car
It sucks they continue to include "Octane learning" on these vehicles. They are SIGNIFICANTLY faster when octane learned, it will pick up 4-5psi of boost.
so, pick mine up tomorrow, cant wait. went from Cerato GT to this. disappointing that it still doesn't have electric passenger seat though. everything else, i am impressed with.
I don’t think NGS affects the launch control numbers too much, it’s mainly used when you’re already rolling in optimum gear then press the button then gun it, that’s where the main difference lies.
It actually could have been a lot faster. It unfortunately wasn't octane learned. I wish they got rid of that. But your peak boost was only 16psi. When it should hit 20psi peak boost when octane learned. Sad to see that they still have this feature.
10:23 what they need to do with ALL cars is link those safety settings with diver profiles I might want some kept on and others turned off but if my kids use the car then I'd want them all left on. That way I wouldn't need to spend 10minutes mucking around everytime I hop in the car
Looks like it's not octane learnt...shame. And no, the knock sensor won't just "take care of that". Octane learning is a whole other beast and you need to go through a whole 'learning process' which ridiculously resets itself with every tank fill and also at random times throughout a tank of fuel. Hyundai unfortunately chose to nerf this sedan with that horrendous learning BS. I know because I have one. A '22 model. But thankfully a Stage 1 tune fixes that right up and gives you 20PSI all day, every day, the way the car should be from the factory! 👀 P.S. When learnt you'd get 17-19 PSI on the boost gauge. May not sound like much more but you definitely feel it and you'll get a better 0-100 time.
Do u know why it needs it when hatch doesn't? And is this more powerful than hatch learned or less powerful unlearned? Ive read both but considering comparison times I thought the former since its faster or the same in track tests but not slower but I dont know.
Currently own a 2021 Sonata N Line, I thought of trading it in for the facelifted i30 Sedan N, however it is a bit hard now as the car puts a smile on my face and it’s an absolute blast to drive, I think I’ll hold out for the next generation i30 Sedan N which will come with the 2.5L turbo currently sitting in the Sonata and the Genesis G70/80 and GV80. The 0-100 and 80-120 times are very similar to the Sonata N Line, notably the pre-facelift, the 2024 facelift is slightly heavier so it’s a bit slower by a few tenths than the pre-facelift, I don’t think you’ve ever reviewed the Sonata on your channel.
@@lukemothug3744 that’s what I’m afraid of, we could be seeing the last of the fun ICE cars out there, if all things turn into electric power with fake engine sounds coming through the speakers it’ll be the end of car enthusiasts, sure they’ll be super fast like the Ioniq 5 N, but the cars will lose their soul. It’s like dating a supermodel that ends up being an AI rather than a real human.
Paul FYI - you're not getting the full performance here as the N has an octane learning procedure which unlocks the 19-20psi instead of a max of 15psi boost
@@RichLionAllegedly this one resets after certain actions like turning the car off and on or refuelling. You need drive the car in a certain procedure for it to "re-learn" and allow max boost again. The system seems intrusive from what I've read of it.
@@lox429my understanding is it does the nock sensor like a normal car. The octane learning on the n lets it function like a light s1 tune when learned. Also it will learn from normal driving but procedure will do it faster. No expert, just read lots. Just got mine out of 1k break in peeriod
Great review Paul. Android Auto is now full screen, so that weird AA logo that took up a third of the screen is gone, thank god. That colour still doesn't do it for me. Glad i went fluid Metal on my PFL, particularly now it's no longer an option on the my24, and strangely, think i prefer the pfl face. This looks to much like a Passat. Looking forward to your review of the ionic 5 N! When's that coming out?
Tell me why do manufacturers think front passengers don't want as good a seat as the driver gets? You're on a long road trip and taking turns driving, why should the passenger get a crap seat? Does my head in. At the very least it should be an option to have the same seat for both.
Honestly I was still a little on the fence about these with the old front fascia, but now I MIGHT consider talking to my dealership about getting one next year… I wanted the Acura Integra Type S but that’s *so* expensive that it’s just not doable for awhile.
At I think the octane learning was not completed before the acceleration test. With good petrol and after the learning the turbo pressure can reach 18 psi, and you got 15 psi max. That's why your time was so weak.
slower in track time but not by much. in terms of fun to drive, i think this has it. Savagegeese also pitted FL5, this, and GR Corolla against each other. watch their video for a professional comparison review.
FL5 is much nicer inside and feels special to drive. If you can afford the extra $14k, buy the FL5. If you like pops and crackles and a track warranty, get the i30n. Most i30n owners don't even track the car so seems like a waste buying a track car that has such a low budget interior to just cruise up and down the streets.
I would get the Honda if your knee can handle the clutch, I was ready to buy one but after a test drive my knee gave out I was super bummed and still bummed as that is a very special car and I soooooo wanted one. Spun the huge wheels in the wet in third going straight so much fun.
@@big98181 lol the fl5 doesn't even give you adjustable or cooled seats. The interior looks old and dated , quality is slightly better but nothing leaps and bounds better. I know shit loads who track this car. Maybe your mates don't... The N is more comfortable as a daily. Way more compliant suspension. The type R isn't worth near 18k more. Laughable
I really really wanted one of these, but this review is reminding me I am 6'2" and this car is made by Koreans for Koreans I might not even fit in it properly. wasn't an issue for their older cars but they really seem to be getting smaller inside the Santa Fe from the 2003 model to the 2013 model went from enough head room to survive a crash to, my seat is lowered all the way and my hair nearly touching the roof. Have to sit in one myself to really see but the back seat is making me wonder.
Not a fan of the rear very angular & that spoiler needs to be more like a WRX. Those 2 screens in oversized bezel looks cheap & poorly thought out something like a high school project. Screens should go to the edge of the bezel these days
It does somewhat compete with the WRX, however the WRX has become more softer and has “grown up” to attract more buyers and Subaru markets the car more of a family sedan rather than a hardcore rally car that it use to be in the 90s and mid 2000s, Subaru have lost their way and have tamed the WRX, it loses almost to every car within its price range in performance testing, it has actually becoming an embarassment, it’s the only car that has become slower and tamer overtime, I mean the fact that they offer the car with a CVT option rather than a performance DCT in the automatic variant tells you all you need to know. The Cerato GT doesn’t compete with the i30 N (Hatch and Sedan) it is a class below, it is basically the equivalent of the i30 N Line, which both share the same 1.6L turbo, it is however a very zippy little thing for what it is, it does have some grunt.
Competes with the audi s3 and the audi would destroy it. There isn't really another car to compare it against since companies don't make sedan versions of hatchbacks
@mharro88 ahahaha bruh I hope you're joking s3 / golf r destroy this on a track . Nurburgring times don't lie 🤣. I30 is the worst in the category. megane rs claps it , civic claps it , golf/s3 claps it . Maybe a mini would lose against it .
Can anyone comment on ride comfort compared to other vehicles. Golf GTI, Golf R, my Mustang with magnaride ? Also on carsales, it says it has cruise control with all the bells & whistles, is this not the case ?
Do these new cars you keep showing the keys for still have a physical key hidden to get into the car if the battery dies?????? Cause most of these cars I can't see a key slot on the outside anywhere
A number of people have called out that the car may not have been in “octane learning mode” during the performance runs. It’s a strange thing given the knock sensor should take care of that almost immediately. But I’ll get the car back and run it through the learning mode and try performance runs again to see if it makes a difference.
Should notice a huge difference, I do in my N Sedan anyway
I absolutely agree with this, ‘octane learning mode’ to me sounds like a whole bunch of nonsense, engines have had knock sensors for decades, which are used to advance or retard ignition timing. This whole thing about running premium fuel and the car then increasing boost pressure seems rather strange, perhaps the engineers who frequent YT comment sections can educate a scrote like me?
@@rsoul7282 it's a BS mode that us N owners complain about but it must be for some kind of engine protection that will only provide maximum boost when it senses the octane rating above 95 I'd assume
@@matt.ja90 I totally get that, but I don’t understand how the vehicle could possibly be ‘analysing the fuel’, are there a team of dwarves confined to the fuel tank with a chemistry set, or are Hyundai bigging up the knock sensor as if it is some modern marvel of engineering prowess exclusively featured on their cars?
@@rsoul7282 it will have an octane sensor probably in a very similar way to which a flex fuel sensor operates I'd suggest
Now that my kids are older and I no longer need an SUV, I'm back in a sedan and it's so much better. More comfortable and handles like a dream. This car is on my list to buy. Love the look of it and the performance.
Waited 2 long years for this 24 design refresh! Been driving mine for a month now and having a blast every day!!
Might be a blast but so is the fuel consumption 😅
@@georgearvanitis6030 my friend, no one who buys this car is worried about fuel consumption.
You waited 2 years for that boring face LOL
@@mharro88 LOL.. Michael, I'm afraid you're in a very small camp of previous owners who are butt hurt and are struggling to accept that their car is ugly. So you spend all your time hunting down all the 24 model year RUclips videos and commenting on how bad it looks 😂 How many have you commented on, just today? Go on, please share it with the class...?
@@CrystalNinja07nearly every group I'm involved in plus actual TCR drivers prefer the PFL design LOL. It's more aggressive to some ugly sure but it looked more track ready, the new one looks like a N-line with Kia vibes. I think it's hilarious you waited 2 years just because you didn't like the design, when's the changes are quite minimal really. They've completely ruined a unique the design in my opinion , especially from the back. The only good thing about this are the flat badges and forged wheels. Apart from that it's heavier and looking slower to 100 by the looks of it
I have a 2024 hyundai i30 sedan n premium and I love it, it's lots of fun.❤
This is truly drop dead gorgeous, unique and beautiful, so great to see some head turning design on our roads instead of just big boxes on wheels, and don't get me started on that party time of an exhaust system, it's hilarious and fabulous 😊😊😊
Ha ha, I hate it 😮
I agree great looking car. See you at the dealer.😅
@@perpetualgrin5804I'll be there 😎
Nice looking rear plastic bumper 🤭
I have to say my 22 Model has never disappointed, Cant imagine anything else on the new Car market giving such bang for buck and I'm one of those people who adores the way it looks.
Value for money motoring. Saving heaps over a VW R brand for 0.7 secs slower. Well worth it
The VW looks a lot nicer though!
The new golf R is actually a lot quicker than what VW state. The 0-100 time is 4.1 seconds. Check out Matt Watson review.
@@givvia6782 vw is boring as hell. this looks lively. it's so different. i'm so tired of VW
@@joec.5009 I respect your opinion! The Golf may come across as grown up and a little dull, but there is 50 years worth of heritage to live up to and I believe timeless design compared to Hyundai's young upstart. I don't think the i30 Sedan will age well with such a polarizing design, however they seem to be selling which suggests there is a market for such a car. Though I would get an i30 N Hatch or Sportback instead.
@@givvia6782 In the US, we don't typically associate Volkswagen (VW) with 'heritage'. Hyundai and Kia had a bad reputation in the past, but they are working to improve their image drastically. I do agree these designs are not timeless. but so is most new cars. i can't stand to look at the latest bmws.
I used to be brand loyal, always driving BMW 3 Series, and now I'm on my second X5. However, I'm now considering the Hyundai Ioniq 5N for my next car. I'm really excited about it.
I've never really been interested in driving a GTI. Here, the GTI is just another car. Maybe the Golf R would catch my attention, but the GTI doesn't. Many people still believe VWs are unreliable; they have a bad reputation for reliability.
i've driven these fun cars. Elantra (i30) N is by far the most fun car i've driven since my E46 M3.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
I really love the facelift but the fact that adaptive cruise control, 360° camera, blind spot monitor view, and 2 additional rear airbags are omitted from Australian models is absolutely mind boggling, I would have paid extra if they were added as an option! Such a dumb ass move from Hyundai Australia! 👎 It's back to the drawing board for me! 🤦🏻♂️😤
I thought that's what made a drivers car less fluff no?
I'm getting old now, I want the added luxury and gadgets or fluff as you put it! 😉
@@MarcoSultana fair enough. For me, I just see all these extra electronics as something that can fail in the future.
@@maxcardenas8257 A 5 year warranty puts my mind at ease in that respect
@@MarcoSultanabut after those 5 years guarantee they’ll start shutting themselves…
Greetings from Germany.
Those Hyundais don't compete with other Asian brands they compete with GOLFs GTI or even Rs. An at least here the kill them... If you are around 20 you dream about a Hyundai. Because it is fun and way more affordable. You won't find GTI tuning clubs anymore here but Hyundai...
Auf Wiedersehen
It's more fun to drive than a Golf R and closer to a honda type R. It competes. The GTI is not even in this segment.
@@mharro88 golf r is all wheel drive and type r has 40 more horsepower and is like 20k more expensive it could compare to gti clubsport but even that is way more expensive
@@Kuku_hihi yes all on paper but actual Lap times they're all close the Elantra N beat the golf R in many videos on here with professional drivers on track
Servaus from barvaria (franken). I see lots of seat, skoda, Citroën sporty hatchbacks. Really like the audi a3 and vw Sirocco which do not come to US market. I was thinking to buy one and ship it back to US and sell it for a higher price.
It competes with the megane rs and the rs destroys this
Wait, you're tellling me the Elantra is just the i30 Sedan in most of the world? :o
In the US they call it the Elantra, even the hatch. Here it’s just the I30
Korea they are called Avante. I dont know why Hyundai Aus chose to use i30... since we also had Elantra pre cn7
only in australia its called that, in korea its called avente n and everywhere else its elantra n
It was called the Elantra here but they changed to i30 sedan to try and improve sales and it worked
In India it's Elantra but we don't have any N variants
Good review Paul. I’ve been at Essendon Hyundai twice over the last 2 days to convince myself I need one.
no, class action law suits for engines failing after 20K, bad paint law suite, the company has lost it, the quality is totally out the window...
@@N7DRONES is this still happening because im looking to buy it tomorrow
@@nolabets3130 good luck with the gamble
Love the Front.
Hate the Back.
Interesting I really like the back
Agreed.
You can't see the rear when you drive anyway.
Better if it was hatchback
The pre face lift (22-23) is a better design.. it looks like they tried to force the sonata front end on it, the hood doesnt meet the lights properly. Get the pre facelift 22-23 model and fit powerflex bushings.. its better
Matter of taste really, In prefer the original myself but I know Im biased.
This was an excellent review. Well done mate.
putting down a deposit on a 2023 model sedan, went for test drive and was instantly sold what a fun little car
I am a Sedan person... for me Sedan will always be better than SUV's if you can make it work..
I've just ordered a Cyber Grey one with the DCT. Can't wait to get it. Thanks Paul.
Thanks Paul. I would still like to see a review of the new Sonata if you can fit it into your busy schedule.
We had the 2024 sonata unfortunately nothing but issues, Hyundai was unable to find the reason I would steer clear until they’ve resolved this issue cause a number of them have been brought back with the same issues I had. Pity though it was an awesome car when it wasn’t playing up
@@Jen-cj4hn Thanks for that. Are you referring to the Aussie version?
I love it Performance Blue exhaust sound absolutely gorgeous I’d have ten of them if I had the money
Hyundai are on another level at the minute
This car looks so much better than the last version at the front. It also represents excellent value for money and can be driven in normal mode which takes away its boy racer attitude and is great for the day to day drive. I would buy it in a more discreet colour as I did with my i30n hatch. If I had to turn off annoying beeps every time I got in the car, its a deal breaker for me.
Doesn’t look better at all!
"Boy racer attitude"😂 Um this new design still has that "boy racer attitude", like every thing about it is "boy racer" although they should be their own models seprate from the hatch version that everyone knows an i30 as
I was originally wanting the hatch/fastback of the i30N since I preferred hatches, found out the sedan had ventilated seats which was kinda a selling point for me and was just overall a better car imo from reviews I watched. Picked up my 2022 Sedan N about 6 months ago and made the compromise for the sedan even though I prefer the more practicality of hatchbacks. Absolute it love it though and no regrets! Such a good looking car
Wow Love this car with red line! Great video!
Can't wait for these to FINALLY hit the USA
It sucks they continue to include "Octane learning" on these vehicles. They are SIGNIFICANTLY faster when octane learned, it will pick up 4-5psi of boost.
My favourite designed car on the road looks the best in white ! If i didn't have my golf r wagon i would have one of these
Add purple power flex torque bushes to help remove wheel hop and increase power transfer. Cheap upgrade for max satisfaction.
I actually can't believe India gets more features in the verna which sits way lower than the i30 N then Australia
Beautiful car.
May as well just get the pre-facelift as the radar cruise isn’t included anyway? I don’t mind the look of the original anyway.
Thanks Paul you are doing a great job, by the way i love it when you say it is what it is 😀
Well done on sky news last night Paul 👍
I’m a Honda fan. But I love the N. For sure my next car!!!
Britain Europe & South should receive this model .
Finally...a carmaker with some sense. Piano black plastics on the bumpers and interior.....no more. Great job Hyundai. Thanx Paul for this nice review
so, pick mine up tomorrow, cant wait. went from Cerato GT to this. disappointing that it still doesn't have electric passenger seat though. everything else, i am impressed with.
In the United States the Hyundai Elantra use to be Avante & Kia Cerato Forte the models down under should come to South Africa .
I don’t think NGS affects the launch control numbers too much, it’s mainly used when you’re already rolling in optimum gear then press the button then gun it, that’s where the main difference lies.
What is the best rpm's for launch control higher or lower?
Depends on road surface, temperature, tyres.
Usually the higher RPM the better because it provides a more aggressive launch.
The Android Auto takes up the full screen now unlike the image you showed. It's been full screen for over a year now on this model.
It actually could have been a lot faster. It unfortunately wasn't octane learned. I wish they got rid of that. But your peak boost was only 16psi. When it should hit 20psi peak boost when octane learned. Sad to see that they still have this feature.
Would buy a sedan, but the boots aren't big enough with 3 kids. Love these
10:23 what they need to do with ALL cars is link those safety settings with diver profiles I might want some kept on and others turned off but if my kids use the car then I'd want them all left on. That way I wouldn't need to spend 10minutes mucking around everytime I hop in the car
Love your videos
Looks like it's not octane learnt...shame. And no, the knock sensor won't just "take care of that". Octane learning is a whole other beast and you need to go through a whole 'learning process' which ridiculously resets itself with every tank fill and also at random times throughout a tank of fuel. Hyundai unfortunately chose to nerf this sedan with that horrendous learning BS. I know because I have one. A '22 model. But thankfully a Stage 1 tune fixes that right up and gives you 20PSI all day, every day, the way the car should be from the factory! 👀
P.S. When learnt you'd get 17-19 PSI on the boost gauge. May not sound like much more but you definitely feel it and you'll get a better 0-100 time.
Do u know why it needs it when hatch doesn't? And is this more powerful than hatch learned or less powerful unlearned? Ive read both but considering comparison times I thought the former since its faster or the same in track tests but not slower but I dont know.
Hope this come to NZ.
Currently own a 2021 Sonata N Line, I thought of trading it in for the facelifted i30 Sedan N, however it is a bit hard now as the car puts a smile on my face and it’s an absolute blast to drive, I think I’ll hold out for the next generation i30 Sedan N which will come with the 2.5L turbo currently sitting in the Sonata and the Genesis G70/80 and GV80.
The 0-100 and 80-120 times are very similar to the Sonata N Line, notably the pre-facelift, the 2024 facelift is slightly heavier so it’s a bit slower by a few tenths than the pre-facelift, I don’t think you’ve ever reviewed the Sonata on your channel.
It may end up being EV instead.
@@lukemothug3744 that’s what I’m afraid of, we could be seeing the last of the fun ICE cars out there, if all things turn into electric power with fake engine sounds coming through the speakers it’ll be the end of car enthusiasts, sure they’ll be super fast like the Ioniq 5 N, but the cars will lose their soul.
It’s like dating a supermodel that ends up being an AI rather than a real human.
Paul FYI - you're not getting the full performance here as the N has an octane learning procedure which unlocks the 19-20psi instead of a max of 15psi boost
All modern cars do this? It's called a knock sensor? How does this differ on this car, curious to know.
@@RichLionAllegedly this one resets after certain actions like turning the car off and on or refuelling. You need drive the car in a certain procedure for it to "re-learn" and allow max boost again. The system seems intrusive from what I've read of it.
@@lox429my understanding is it does the nock sensor like a normal car. The octane learning on the n lets it function like a light s1 tune when learned. Also it will learn from normal driving but procedure will do it faster. No expert, just read lots. Just got mine out of 1k break in peeriod
52k for 6.22secs?i would get a focus st instead,no?
This new Hyundai I20 N Kia Cerato GT Sedans should come to South Africa .
Still waiting on a Sonata N Line review
Great video, we agree on most motoring issues. What colour is your ' 380 ' ?😅
What else would I buy other than this? Nothing, my AU2 falcon is the beast of sedans 👌🤣
Silver would be nice looks fast just standing still I've got an i20n in Silver love it
The sedans Australia have should come to South Africa .
Considering the performance and the price, i can't blame that cheap feeling interior😅
if the EN in the states had these seats I'd still have mine.
What happened? You didn't like the bucket seats?
Caused constant upper shoulder and neck pain
I loved the 3 door version they did with one door on tbe driver side and two on the passenger side
Veloster, I think that was
Love the car the rear is biggest zonk, but I'd still pay money for it
Australia : i30 sedan
America : elantra
Korea : avante
Wtf Unify name into one!
Same with other cars bro not just Hyundai
I30 means elentra N line one is totally amazing and also with fun car
Great review Paul. Android Auto is now full screen, so that weird AA logo that took up a third of the screen is gone, thank god.
That colour still doesn't do it for me. Glad i went fluid Metal on my PFL, particularly now it's no longer an option on the my24, and strangely, think i prefer the pfl face. This looks to much like a Passat.
Looking forward to your review of the ionic 5 N! When's that coming out?
Octavia RS sedan
Not including radar cruise control is a big mistake! Why. Most average vehicles have it and wouldn’t buy a vehicle if it didn’t.
DIto , its a major fail !
Tell me why do manufacturers think front passengers don't want as good a seat as the driver gets? You're on a long road trip and taking turns driving, why should the passenger get a crap seat? Does my head in. At the very least it should be an option to have the same seat for both.
So the Elantra N?
Yep, i30n in Australia
that is defiantly not an upgrade in looks, it looks like any Chinese ev now , the previous one was unique and designed by Lamborghini
Honestly I was still a little on the fence about these with the old front fascia, but now I MIGHT consider talking to my dealership about getting one next year… I wanted the Acura Integra Type S but that’s *so* expensive that it’s just not doable for awhile.
If I have money m5 cs is just an awesome thing.
Hey Paul, any plans to review the new Sonata?
Would be good to see the performance of the 2.5 litre engine
🇦🇺 Exterior design ruined by that rear spoiler. No HUD.....?
When oh when will it be available in the US? Counting the days.
60k's in reverse. That's what I like to see 😂
Super car
Keen on the Hatch, did that get a facelift as well?
im looking for PHEV small - medium do you have reviews on any please?
Never knew that Seth MacFarlane did car reviews! Very well done though! Great insight into the exact stuff I wanted to know. Thanks!
So the seats are different from those released in the US , are they sitting 10 mm lower than the standard model?
Sonata review when?
I’ve been holding out for a Sonata review aswell, I don’t think he’s ever had it on his channel.
Is there another hatchback variant coming soon as well?
At I think the octane learning was not completed before the acceleration test. With good petrol and after the learning the turbo pressure can reach 18 psi, and you got 15 psi max. That's why your time was so weak.
Aww sorry, it was mentioned already, I just repeated like a monkey. Sry.
We did another video testing octane learning mode. It’s live on the channel.
I have a 23nline premium abyss black. Having paint problems and air conditioner seems to be making sounds
Should look to launch without NGS then hit the NGS as you hit second
Please do the new Hyundai Sonata N Line 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Cla , a35 sedan
Oh so now the i30 and elantra is the same car? I am aware the i30n was renamed the elantra sport but the elantra sport did not look like an elantra.
Yep weird naming in Australia.
This or the cupra Leon vzx?
I prefer my 23😊
Is the spoiler mandatory
How does it compare to the fl5? Shopping borh
slower in track time but not by much. in terms of fun to drive, i think this has it.
Savagegeese also pitted FL5, this, and GR Corolla against each other. watch their video for a professional comparison review.
FL5 is much nicer inside and feels special to drive. If you can afford the extra $14k, buy the FL5. If you like pops and crackles and a track warranty, get the i30n. Most i30n owners don't even track the car so seems like a waste buying a track car that has such a low budget interior to just cruise up and down the streets.
I would get the Honda if your knee can handle the clutch, I was ready to buy one but after a test drive my knee gave out I was super bummed and still bummed as that is a very special car and I soooooo wanted one. Spun the huge wheels in the wet in third going straight so much fun.
take the 15 k you save and that will get you to stage 3 with upgraded turbo in the en
@@big98181 lol the fl5 doesn't even give you adjustable or cooled seats. The interior looks old and dated , quality is slightly better but nothing leaps and bounds better. I know shit loads who track this car. Maybe your mates don't...
The N is more comfortable as a daily. Way more compliant suspension. The type R isn't worth near 18k more. Laughable
I really really wanted one of these, but this review is reminding me I am 6'2" and this car is made by Koreans for Koreans I might not even fit in it properly. wasn't an issue for their older cars but they really seem to be getting smaller inside the Santa Fe from the 2003 model to the 2013 model went from enough head room to survive a crash to, my seat is lowered all the way and my hair nearly touching the roof. Have to sit in one myself to really see but the back seat is making me wonder.
Dude. I'm 6"1 and have plenty of space, even with the sunroof option.
Not a fan of the rear very angular & that spoiler needs to be more like a WRX. Those 2 screens in oversized bezel looks cheap & poorly thought out something like a high school project. Screens should go to the edge of the bezel these days
Wouldnt say it competes with either the WRX or especially the Cerato GT. This smokes both.
It does somewhat compete with the WRX, however the WRX has become more softer and has “grown up” to attract more buyers and Subaru markets the car more of a family sedan rather than a hardcore rally car that it use to be in the 90s and mid 2000s, Subaru have lost their way and have tamed the WRX, it loses almost to every car within its price range in performance testing, it has actually becoming an embarassment, it’s the only car that has become slower and tamer overtime, I mean the fact that they offer the car with a CVT option rather than a performance DCT in the automatic variant tells you all you need to know.
The Cerato GT doesn’t compete with the i30 N (Hatch and Sedan) it is a class below, it is basically the equivalent of the i30 N Line, which both share the same 1.6L turbo, it is however a very zippy little thing for what it is, it does have some grunt.
Competes with the audi s3 and the audi would destroy it. There isn't really another car to compare it against since companies don't make sedan versions of hatchbacks
@@banana-ui2qd lol the s3 is fucking shit on track compared to this.
@@banana-ui2qd the s3 would destroy is on track? Hilarious.
@mharro88 ahahaha bruh I hope you're joking s3 / golf r destroy this on a track . Nurburgring times don't lie 🤣. I30 is the worst in the category. megane rs claps it , civic claps it , golf/s3 claps it . Maybe a mini would lose against it .
is there solution to stop axle tramp? the wheel hop..
Epic car! Not a fan of the spoiler just doesn’t flow with the rest of the car
Can anyone comment on ride comfort compared to other vehicles. Golf GTI, Golf R, my Mustang with magnaride ? Also on carsales, it says it has cruise control with all the bells & whistles, is this not the case ?
Similar price to BRZts...... which one would you choose?
Definetely this, in terms of performance this would leave the BRZ for dead.
How's the seating position?
Do these new cars you keep showing the keys for still have a physical key hidden to get into the car if the battery dies?????? Cause most of these cars I can't see a key slot on the outside anywhere
It does have a small key slot under handle
Can u review the new skoda superb