I’m 61 years old and just switched from a magnum to a howa 270 winchester a few years ago. What a rifle, wish I’d done it years ago. Kills everything I shoot as long as I do my part. Great job Howa👍
I agree with what you say about lots of hunters being "over-gunned", I shoot a .270 win and I always had to take some crap. But when the same guys giving me crap missed a bull the next year and I filled my tag, I simply told him,"Hitting them is a good start."
Randy Newberg Keep up the great work you guys are doing. I’m just getting back into the sport of shooting and hunting and I watch your videos every time I get a chance. I always learn something new. Thank you again and continue to be safe out there and God Bless you and your crew!!!
Excellent! I live and hunt interior Alaska for the past 28 years. I use the .270 Winchester for Sitka blacktail deer, Dall sheep, black bear, caribou. Handloads using the 130 gr Barnes TTSX with IMR4350. For bull moose and grizzly bear I use a .300 H & H with 180 gr Barnes TTSX loaded with IMR4381. These 2 rifles have the same trajectory, the same scope (1980s vintage Leupold 3X9), the same trigger pull (3 lbs) and both are 1970s Remington 700 bolt action. Most of my shots for the past 28 years have been less than 200 yards. I sight in +3 inches high at 100 yards, zero at 260, -2.5 inches at 300 yards, I practice at least twice a week shooting at balloons in the field from field positions, mostly with my .270.
Randy, I enjoy watching your show. Today, my dad, 85 years young gave me his Remington model 700 .243 topped with a 3x9 redfield and weaver mounts. With this gun he primarily hunted mulies in the kiabab area for many years. It's been in the family for as long as I remember, I'm 48 now an especially proud to have this fun. Keep up the good work your doing in voicing your opinion on public land transfer and conservation.
I agree. I started with a 7mm mag when I was young and it was a bad choice. I would have been better served with a 7mm-08. I was horribly inconsistent because I feared the recoil.
Randy, even though my wife is a better shot than I am, and though she has had way more experience hunting than I have, I fear my wife would agree with your wife! :-)
For all those reasons, i use the 30-06. Plus i also use the Walmart rule, of common hunting caliber, before settling on a caliber i went to multiple wallmarts in multiple states and looked at what they had. 99 of the time they always had 270 and 30-06
Randy Newberg, Hunter I just listened to your podcast with Steve Rinella yesterday, great conversation. I have been shooting a Howa .270 for about 6 years after selling a Remington 700 7mm mag. I could not agree with you guys enough about not being over gunned, also the quality of Howa is unmatched for the money. Keep up the good work.
I'm a weatherby guy here but I agree on your concept and had to get me a 270 in a tikka platform just as a wim rifle .Sometimes ya don't have time to reload and manufactured ammo for them bees are way over priced and or not even available. 270 308 3006 and 300win for days and 7mag seem to be America's standards. All great guns .
I did something similar. I went .223 rem with a Savage model 16 and a .308 win with Ruger American Rancher with a muzzle break. The .223 I knew I could buy bulk for target shooting and the .308 is pretty popular up in Central Ontario. Though part of my family lives in New Brunswick where 22-250 is king. Mostly do to the hunting laws.
I have own Savage , Tikka and Remington. Just got my Howa in 6.5 CM Multicam and loving it. Thanks Randy love your show. Addicted! Getting 1/2 ground @ 100 yards using Hornandy ELD Match 140gr.
I'm a huge fan of yours Randy . I think it's cool that you're in the thread. Reading this comments. I have a howa 1500 270. I've never hunted or shot an animal but totally wood and looking forward to my 1st deer hunt. I'm 50 years old I'm a gun fanatic. I have about 30 rifles and pistols and shotguns. I love guns. But i've actually never hunted yet i'm fascinated by calibre discussions and watching your videos.
Randy, I know this video is a little old but thanks for the good information! I’m a younger/newer shooter and am going elk hunting 1st time this fall. I originally thought I needed a .300 WMR and 170+ gr bullets with a break on barrel. But eventually settled on .308 Weatherby Vanguard (cheaper Howa) mated with Leupold VX-R w/CDS.
I shoot some big guns and absolutely love them. When I go into the woods for whitetail I have a 308. For large game I shoot a 300wsm or a 300 weatherby
I've killed three elk, 1 with a 270 Win. and 2 with a 257 Roberts. I shoot both very well. I have a 338 Win. Mag. that I love and also shoot very well. All of my handloads are around 2700 fps. With a well constructed bullet, they work every time and the recoil is very manageable. Speed helps, but if you can't hit what you aim at, it does you no good. My favorite round is the 6.5 swede. I gave mine to a buddy for his son's first hunting rifle.
I use a 300 win mag 180 grain outta a 1971 ruger m77 it kicks like a mule but it was my great great uncles and I respect the tradition and I love the classics
Great Googly Moggly! Why all the hate on 300 WM? I dig mine. Recoil isn't that bad. Ammo is cheep. I have a weatherby 300 and a howa 223 that I shoot way more then the 300. The safety, the bolt the every thing else is the same on both guns.
I stumbled up this little gem called Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55mm, it is a magnificent display of precision technology fulfilling its expectations with lethal precise.
I shoot a 358 Norma mag for anything bigger than deer. Do I need the power? Probably not but I like the rifle I shoot it very well. I like the fact it cuts a 35 cal hole going in and a nice size exit hole going out and leaves a nice short blood trails. But the best advice I tell people is shoot what you like, shot it often, and you will have success in the feild!
@@madwe2269 Then why do other manufactures, that make cheaper/worse rifles (Savage Axis, Ruger American), and more expensive/better rifles (Christensen Arms Mesa & Ridgeline, Bergara HMR, Ruger M77, etc) than the Howa make left-handed models? There's obviously a market for it.
What I'm for on is a rifle with distance and accuracy and good performance like you said some people have to much rifle pluse it good and the best way is to be fitted for a rifle
I use my 300win for hunting everything big game here in bc, mainly hunting mulies in thick close range country with large grizz populations. but once again im very comfortable with shooting it and the perks of it not getting deflected in the buck brush, and a 300win will stop a charging grizz or improve my chances. Especially if the bear spray doesnt work.
Justin Treon I have a Tikka T3 in 6.5x55 and it is a tack driver of a round. Used to have a Swedish Mauser (the rounds original rifle) before I got the Tikka. In a military set up that weighs between 8 and 10 pounds, you really don't feel the recoil at all.
Wow. I don't feel so bad for having just got a new bolt-action in .308. Some people are acting like I'm a wimp, but honestly, it's about the max I'm comfortable shooting. After a box of 20rds, I'm done and ready to shoot my AR in .223 for a while. :-)
I have a Remington 700bdl in 25-06 and a 700bdl in 300RUM. I wanted my basis covered. However I shoot my marlin 444 for most game. I enjoy a wide variety of calibers.
I recall reading that the 7.92x57 mm Mauser was the cartridge of choice in Europe for big game for quite some time. Still popular, I'm sure. Some have even used it in the past for dangerous game, like elephant.
I bought a howa alpine in .308 with a floor plate style. I don't like to have a magazine. I tell you what, it light, accurate, and legit as fuck! Got mine through Turners
Agree. I have more rounds though and am way more accurate with my 7mm-08 in 3 years then I was ever in 12 years with my 30-06. The elk in my freezer didn’t know the difference.
i have taken 4 gensbok . 1 eland bull . and 31 springbuck this hunting season . 55 gr vmax 22-250 ruger m77 mark2. and everyone told me thats its to small . but at the end everyones mouths there hanging op . and like they sed i feel comfortable with my rife because its my rifle and masted my rifle. A accurate shot with small cal rifle is more deadly then a unaccurate larger cal rifle. ( point of aim point of inpact )
Does howa make the alpine hunter in left hand? I cant find one and that's a deal breaker for me. I shoot left handed and most of my guns are right hand, but I feel it's important to have left hand with a bolt action, mostly for sight acquisition and speed of second or third shots if necessary. On a bipod the difference may not be as great, but when shooting without a rest having to use my support hand to reload vs my trigger hand would greatly increase the time between shots.
I don't know the answer for sure, but I suspect they are looking for a specific cartridge for a specific application and they've settled on those two rounds as the best for each specific application.
From Wikipedia.. "The 7.62x51mm offers the same ballistic performance as the original 1906 load for the .30-06 Springfield, the cartridge it replaced in U.S. service. Modern propellants allowed for similar performance from a smaller case with less capacity, a case that requires less brass and yields a shorter cartridge. This shorter cartridge allows a slight reduction in the size and weight of firearms that chamber it, and somewhat better cycling in automatic and semi-automatic rifles." 308 and 30-06 are very similar in terms of performance, while 300WM can almost be thought of as a 308 or 30-06 "Magnum". Same bullet, but a few hundred feet per second faster. In terms of raw performance, it just means that 300wm hits harder at closer distances, and travels further before gravity pulls it out of the sky. Albeit at the cost of much greater recoil...
The 30-06 is a long case designed for a 24 inch barrel. The 308 is a shorter case with less powder. Less powder to burn means you can use a shorter barrel. a 30-06 in a 20 or 22 inch barrel is just wasting powder and is not efficient. if you put a modern 30-06 in a 24 inch barrel, match it with the same 308, the 30-06 will have at least 150 fps faster than the 308. The 308 is the little brother to the 30-06. The 308 cannot do anything a 30-06 can do, and a 30-06 cannot do anything a 300 win mag can do. If you're shooting a 150 pound white tail deer at 100 yards...a 6.5 Grendel will kill it just as dead as the 300 win mag. It's about having the right tool for the job. You don't need a 16 pound sledge to drive a tack..
As hunters we try to be ethical and kill an animal with the least amount of pain. A quick kill is desired. In the military, we aren't looking for ethical kills. We want what works best to stop a human from trying to kill us. Causing pain is sometimes desirable. For a human sized target, a 3006 is actually over kill. Very little penetration is needed to hit vital organs. On human targets in war, a 6mm, like a 243 or 6mm creedmoor or 6mmAR, might be better suited. 6mmAR works great in AR15, and the 6mm creedmoor with a 105gr bullet would provide significant range over the 308 for DMR or snipers, be less effected by the wind, and have plenty energy on target. Sometimes the weapons and equipment the military gets has nothing to do with what the military wants or needs. In 1906 the 30-06 was a great cartridge for the military. Modern gun powder, bullets, and ballistics show us that anything that'll kill a whitetail deer is more than enough for human targets in war.
Hello there randy I’m a hunter here in Southern California I’m about 245 5’10 used to be about 308 I ise a Remington 700 BDL and a Winchester 70 featherweight both in 30-06 180 grain either hornady GMX or Barnes TTSx for mules and black bear am I over gun?? I can hit comfortable out to 450 maybe 500 yards with my Vortex viper hst
So much wisdom in 3 and 3/4 minutes, speaks volumes. To take down deer, mule deer, and even elk, you do not have to have 7 mm Rem Mag or .300 Win Mag or .300 WSM. You need a rifle you can handle and just about anything will work. The shot placement is key. I have read of big game hunters hitting a beast with .333 OKH or .32 Whelen for at least 3 shots and the beast got away. Maybe died, maybe not. And the would eschew what they considered to fast, something llike a .30-06 180 grain. I have also seen a guy bring down a moose with one shot of 6.5 Creedmoor. Personally, I hunt with the .308 Win. I think it is the most general round, perfect for whitetail, blacktail, large blacktail (mule deer,) and even elk. And if a 6.5 Creedmoor takes down a moose, certainly a .308 Win will do so. And I have modified things to make the rifle comfortable to me, no flinching. Rock steady and solid. Shooting 1 MOA and less with a hot barrel. I have read of an outfitter who sometimes gets a client who thinks cartridge size is magical and bigger is better. And spends 8 grand on a .338 Lapua Mag that he cannot shoot because the recoil stings and he gets a nasty flinch. And the guide takes that gun from him and hands him a .270 with 150 grain or less and he shoots it like a .22 and gets his harvest. You don't need a .338 Lapua Mag to hunt deer. Now, you can hunt with .450 Bush Master and .350 Legend and that is okay, but those are at slower velocities and are perfect for close range. Definitely pick the cartridge you can handle, and then find the rifle that can shoot that reliably and more than a few shots. Because you need to practice at the range. Even without all the extra hunting positions and burpees and what not. You need to practice getting calm and settled because that is one of the secrets to a pinpoint shot. The other is angle of the finger on the trigger. Everything else is secondary to that.
Give a Howa about 50-60 rounds to smooth out the bore and then they really start shooting well. I've always given the barrels a minimum of 15 minutes between shots to let these skinny barreled guns time to cool. Even my buĺl barrel 308 cerakote camouflage. This is the hardest part of my philosophy, but it sure gives me all the confidence in the world when it comes down to hunting the game animals that I thoroughly enjoy.
.300 WSM, Hands down for me. Not because it was cool, or somebody told me it's the best gun. I chose the .300 WSM after trying the .243/.270/30.06/.308 and I just didn't feel comfortable with them. I landed on the .300 WSM years and years ago and I've never looked back. .180gr Nosler Accu for Deer and .200gr Hornady Trophy for Elk, Hogs and Bear. I practiced over and over again and in all my years I have only had one nasty gut shot. Any caliber can be great, but you need to practice and make yourself comfortable with it. 🍻
Randy, is there a specific reason you never mention 30-06 as a cartridge of choice? I know you're partial to the .308. Do you feel the -06 doesn't give you enough advantage over the .308 to be worth it? Is the -06 just a little more recoil than you prefer? Are you just partial to short actions? Thanks
I am partial to short actions, for both the compactness and weight savings I can get. The .308 Win provides those without much sacrifice in performance when compared to the '06. I owned a .30-06 and shot a lot of critters with it. The .30-06 is a great round. Me using a .308 Win is just how my hunting has evolved and what I find useful for those purposes. Thanks for watching.
I always laugh when somebody says 30 30 used to be good for shooting deers but not anymore we got to use a 300 Win Mag not like Grandpa's 3030 got to have the best of the best and what I think of is yeah those deers with their Bulletproof Kevlar vests nowadays
Even a 308/30-06/270 is too much for most whitetail hunting situations. Whatever is the reason these people find a need to use a good black bear gun on a 120-200lb deer is beyond me. Not to mention that they're the same group that says my 243's are too small for deer and then use a bow
Randy love your experience. If weight is not a big issue for me. Was wondering how you feel about using an Ar 10 platform for hunting elk? Chambered in 308 with a 18" barrel to you believe they are viable? Do you know anyone that uses that set up? Is this frowned upon?
I don't know anyone who uses it, but if it is accurate, which I suspect it would be, it will be just find for elk. If people frown on what you shoot, just smile and keep shooting it.
Im a old man with lots of hunters in my family. Old and young all have used 270 for all big game..never owned a belted magnum. Have ate alot of elk with a 270.
I shot a lot of calibers and agree with you guys 1000%, I'll just stick to my .308 plain and simple, you guys are right, those that need a giant magnum just want to show off there eggos then start to miss because they don't get comfortable shooting that big magnum, I'm most comfortable shooting my .308 win, or even get a .26 6.5mm caliber like the .260 rem, or the 6.5X55
I bought a Tikka t3 in a .270 WSM last year for my antelope/mule deer hunt. I shot the antelope at 400 yards and he didn't move an inch, dropped on the spot. The mule deer ran about 30 yards with a double lung and went down. I did a lot of research and found with the 270 WSM its a great mid caliber bullet with a lot of speed and probably most important to me was wind deflection is minimal compared to other bullets in its category. There were some days out there where the wind was blowing 25-30+ which can have a huge impact on your shot at 400 yards.
While shot placement is the most important factor, let's not forget that a quick kill is also a responsibility of an ethical hunter. I have seen bison, and elk shrug off a 308. Both needing follow up shots. I have seen whitetails run 200 + yards from lesser calibers. The kinetic energy from high velocity rounds like 300 Weatherby and Win-mag do have some merit. Let's not forget wind drift. Bullet construction is critical as well. Shoot AS MUCH gun as you can reliably and repeatedly operate.
why not 7 rem mag instead of 338 win mag? 7mm bullet will have less problems in the wind, and higher sectional density for deeper penetration. Besides, a lot of 300 win mag hunters have had to shoot an elk 3 times before it went down. Randy is getting it done with a little 308 or 7mm-08.
the first gun i ever shot was a .22 lr. when i got good with that i wanted to go for big game when i went to the gun shop i told the guy i wanted a gun that could theoretically hunt everything in new mexico. keep in mind here in new mexico we have Oryx, some of the biggest toughest game in north America. he sold me a 300 win mag. i couldnt even sight the damn thing in. it was a 5 lb gun and was too much bang for my buck. i eventually traded it in for a bergara 6.5 creedmoor. it is a wonderful rifle, i wouldnt hunt Oryx with it but it will do the business on elk and coyotes.
Ok so I'm returning to this video with a question for you good sir. Today while hiking for spring bear (Southern BC rockies) I came into a herd of Elk down a natural gas cut block. ranged them initially at just under 1200 yds and was able to get in to 600 on a stalk before the cows started looking hinky knowing something was up- I didn't dare try to make another 5 yds. Now I ring a 10x12" gong with boring consistency at 5-800 yds and would feel comfortable shooting that herd bull that had no yet shed (if I was in the right season). If this was September, where I live, a 6x7 or 6x6 herd bull is a once a year or two year opportunity. Would you say to a guy in this position that its better to have a lighter rifle lacking FTLBS down range or better to have the Ubermag we all love to hate? I was just thinking it would be awful to pass the opportunity for fear of your rifles on-game performance at the 5-600 yd mark, but hey I'm new at this yet. As always, your the BOMB, good luck in Alaska!
To me, that is up to each hunter and their personal preference AND how much they practice. It is very seldom that I see elk at 600 yards when I cannot get to 300 yards. I am sure there are instances, but I find elk to be the easiest western big game animal to stalk withing range during rifle season. Back to the personal preference, even though I shoot a lot at 500 yards and have very good results, my personal preference is to get closer; closer being under 400 yards. That preference is not a function of my rifle/caliber, as at times I am carrying a .300 Win Mag that is ballistically capable at those ranges, rather due to the worry that even the slightest stumble on my part is amplified to a great level at those ranges and I do not want the possible consequences that come with that. Thanks for watching.
I have to say, I love the 308. I like 125 grain bullets for coyotes, antelope, and Barbary sheep. I like the 165 grain for mule deer and elk. I see little reason to use anything else, unless I want a real heavy hitter, then I go to my 300 winchester mag with 200 grain bullets. I see many hunters come through the ranch every year with their crew served weapons, and their results are not impressive. They would be better off with something easier to shoot. Almost no one can reliably shoot past 300 yards under field conditions. All the emphasis on ballistic coefficients is basically pointless out to at least 500 yards with good bullets in standard calibers, and most people should not be trying to kill game farther than that anyway. I am always impressed with how many of the kids are so successful with their 243's. Thanks for the common sense in your videos on these subjects.
My first deer gun was a savage 116 weather warrior in 300 win mag with a 6.5x20 Leupold I got the gun in 4th grade and started hunting in 5th I weighed 67lbs my mom said but that gun never bothered me
Hey Randy. I have watched a lot of your content and continue to be a big fan of yours. I was watching your other rifle selection video and had a question. I know you are sponsored by Howa, and no one would argue they make a hell of a rifle. But I noticed in some of your early OYOA vids, you are carrying an old wooden stocked rifle. Is that an old Remington 700? I am always interested in peoples "grandpa guns" - what did you shoot (cal/rifle) before the howa handshake started? take care!
At times I've had most every brand of firearm made. When we started nine years ago you would have seen some old "Grandpa guns." Yes, a Remington 700 and a Kimber. Other than that, it's been all Howa Handshakes.
Thanks for this video. Too many people don't like to admit it, but .300 win mag, .338 lapua mag etc are extreme overkill for anything in North America. In the Nordic countries 6.5x55 swede and 7x57 Mauser are extremely common cartridges for moose hunting. It's all about shot placement. A solid hit with a 7mm-08 is always going to be more lethal than a marginal .338 lapua magnum hit.
Dead is dead no such thing as overkill, I have seen elk taken with 243 at 100 and I have seen elk taken with a 300 winmag at 600 and drop them like a newborn baby it's all about range and training. Most people get hand me down rifles from their grandfather's and fathers and that can be anything . I have seen people out in the field hunting deer and elk with 44mag lever 45-70 single shot all the way up to 375h&h. It all comes down with experience . I love all my rifles equally haha and try to be my best with any of them as much as I can . I do agree with ya mostly 7mm08 ,270 and 257 weatherby are universal for most distance but those mags get em down further out better .
I shot a cow elk in Montana this year at 200 yards with a 7mm-08 with 140gr Nosler E-tips and she went right down. I don’t know why people think elk/moose/caribou etc are these huge mystical creatures that require belted magnum cartridges to kill.
I agree, there is NO need for a magnum caliber rifle in North America. 35 whelen is big enough for anything on this continent. So, is 308, 30-06, 358, among others. Whitetail should be in the range of 7mm 08, 243, 6mm and 6.5mm. They are plenty for white tail at any reasonable distance. Oh, and love 6.5x55 for about anything.
moose drool did the same and went to 7mm-08 from 30-06. Don’t regret it for one second. Hated that gun. Probably have 3x the rounds through my 7/08 in 1/4 of the time. Pleasure to shoot.
Illustrating why the 7mm-08 is an almost ideal cartridge. More than enough horsepower to get the job done with a recoil that is easily managed by even smallest shooter.
I've been contemplating this for a while now. will be buying a new hunting rifle here soon and I'm looking for one that not only I can handle, but my 15yo son, and my wife can handle as well. I gotta say, I keep on going back to wanting a 7mm-08...... Everything you said, is exactly what I have been researching. I'm from Maine, and it's primary use would be for deer, but do you believe it to be powerful enough for moose? I'm believing it would be but want others opinions.
The 7mm-08 is a ballistic clone of the old 7x57 Mauser which has been used on moose (to great effect) for many years. Use an appropriate bullet and take shots that are within the rifles "point blank range" (325 yards or so) and you'll be just fine.
+BigRedPower59 oh Lord! lol anything beyond 200, I personally don't even shoot. I'll be able to now though but most places I hunt, are within 100yds. .. Thank you again.
To each his own. My coilection of hi-powered rifles span the gamut of .22-250 to .30-378 Wea; with assorted 6, 7mm and .308 calibers thrown in for good measure. Shoot what you want, for whatever reason you want to shoot it. Never because someone else tells you it's what you need to shoot, because they like it, or it's all you "need".😕
Everybody knows the Marine Corps makes the best snipers. Shot placement beats caliber every single time. Practice your fundamentals of marksmanship as much as you can, it's a perishable skill so keep at it.
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Wise words Randy. Big game here in Norway dies as well after a good hit by 308 Shot placement is the key word. Discussing different calibers usability on big game and women have some few things common. Some of us like the mother......other likes the daughter (better) Merry Christmas to you Randy.
270 win with premium ammo good enough for elk ? This is my first year going and a lot of people are telling me to get a .30 cal rifle for the heavier ammo
I even disliked my 25-06 because it was so damned loud, and had this huge heavy barrel out front, big wide forend, and tiny skinny grip. I'd been shooting a .30-30 lever action before that. Looking back, the 30-30 is the gun I shouldn't ever have sold, and ending up with my father-in-law's Remington 700 in .308 is the best thing that could have happened to me.
Don’t cotton to any .308 calibers. 7mm Rem Mag is my favorite. Had to sell it and now using a 12 gauge. But if I ever get another rifle it’ll be a Tikka T3x hunter in 7mm Rem Mag. The one I had I used to ward off a testy black bear. Love the caliber. You can’t get more bang for the buck than the 7mm Rem Mag. You can definitely get more bang, but a nice price will not happen. Some folks are just recoil sensitive and the magnums just don’t do well for them.
If the public could buy rockets, we could get the umph we need with a recoil-less platform. Might not be much of anything left of anything you shoot at though.
I’m 61 years old and just switched from a magnum to a howa 270 winchester a few years ago. What a rifle, wish I’d done it years ago. Kills everything I shoot as long as I do my part. Great job Howa👍
I agree with what you say about lots of hunters being "over-gunned", I shoot a .270 win and I always had to take some crap. But when the same guys giving me crap missed a bull the next year and I filled my tag, I simply told him,"Hitting them is a good start."
Good response. I killed my first four bulls with a .270 shooting 150 grain Nosler Partitions.
@@Fresh_Tracks But I bet you're happy you took a .300 win mag with you to take that big BC bull moose. They are tough!
We shoot deer, elk, moose, and lots of other animals with a 243, it works just fine for all of them.
A hit with a bb is more effective than a miss with a canon.
.270 is perfect for women and children...but it's nice to know that you can go hunting too.
Randy Newberg Keep up the great work you guys are doing. I’m just getting back into the sport of shooting and hunting and I watch your videos every time I get a chance. I always learn something new. Thank you again and continue to be safe out there and God Bless you and your crew!!!
Excellent! I live and hunt interior Alaska for the past 28 years. I use the .270 Winchester for Sitka blacktail deer, Dall sheep, black bear, caribou. Handloads using the 130 gr Barnes TTSX with IMR4350. For bull moose and grizzly bear I use a .300 H & H with 180 gr Barnes TTSX loaded with IMR4381. These 2 rifles have the same trajectory, the same scope (1980s vintage Leupold 3X9), the same trigger pull (3 lbs) and both are 1970s Remington 700 bolt action. Most of my shots for the past 28 years have been less than 200 yards. I sight in +3 inches high at 100 yards, zero at 260, -2.5 inches at 300 yards, I practice at least twice a week shooting at balloons in the field from field positions, mostly with my .270.
Randy, I enjoy watching your show. Today, my dad, 85 years young gave me his Remington model 700 .243 topped with a 3x9 redfield and weaver mounts. With this gun he primarily hunted mulies in the kiabab area for many years. It's been in the family for as long as I remember, I'm 48 now an especially proud to have this fun. Keep up the good work your doing in voicing your opinion on public land transfer and conservation.
Enjoy these videos. Just applied for our first cow elk tag for Colorado. Bringing my .308.
I agree. I started with a 7mm mag when I was young and it was a bad choice. I would have been better served with a 7mm-08. I was horribly inconsistent because I feared the recoil.
Trying out the Howa in 6.5 Creedmoor this year...so far so good...cool vid!
A fresh breeze of common sense and sanity!! Thanks!
My wife would argue with that comment, but thanks for saying so. ;) Thanks for watching.
Randy, even though my wife is a better shot than I am, and though she has had way more experience hunting than I have, I fear my wife would agree with your wife! :-)
I have had my first 308 howa about fourteen it Finnish realtree l love. Now I have howa 3006, the first is nail drive hope this is too 😊
For all those reasons, i use the 30-06. Plus i also use the Walmart rule, of common hunting caliber, before settling on a caliber i went to multiple wallmarts in multiple states and looked at what they had. 99 of the time they always had 270 and 30-06
That's good strategy. I killed my first four bulls with a .270 Win shooting 150 grain Nosler Partitions.
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I just listened to your podcast with Steve Rinella yesterday, great conversation. I have been shooting a Howa .270 for about 6 years after selling a Remington 700 7mm mag. I could not agree with you guys enough about not being over gunned, also the quality of Howa is unmatched for the money. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for listening. Glad your Howa experience is similar to mine.
I'm a weatherby guy here but I agree on your concept and had to get me a 270 in a tikka platform just as a wim rifle .Sometimes ya don't have time to reload and manufactured ammo for them bees are way over priced and or not even available. 270 308 3006 and 300win for days and 7mag seem to be America's standards. All great guns .
I did something similar. I went .223 rem with a Savage model 16 and a .308 win with Ruger American Rancher with a muzzle break. The .223 I knew I could buy bulk for target shooting and the .308 is pretty popular up in Central Ontario. Though part of my family lives in New Brunswick where 22-250 is king. Mostly do to the hunting laws.
I have own Savage , Tikka and Remington. Just got my Howa in 6.5 CM Multicam and loving it. Thanks Randy love your show. Addicted! Getting 1/2 ground @ 100 yards using Hornandy ELD Match 140gr.
hey I love your video s can you up load some every day . thanks
Fyi m2010 (army 300wm) does have a brake from AAC. Brake suppressor combo 👍
Precisely why I advocate for the 7mm-08. Mild recoil but still has ample horsepower for game as big as elk.
I'm a huge fan of yours Randy .
I think it's cool that you're in the thread. Reading this comments.
I have a howa 1500 270. I've never hunted or shot an animal but totally wood and looking forward to my 1st deer hunt. I'm 50 years old I'm a gun fanatic. I have about 30 rifles and pistols and shotguns. I love guns. But i've actually never hunted yet i'm fascinated by calibre discussions and watching your videos.
My hunting rifle is a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmoor. And my 600yd gong shooter is a 24” bull barrel Howa 1500 in 308 win.
Personally, I like cartridges that are based one either the 7x57 Mauser or 30-06. Those parentings have made some of the greatest rounds ever.
Those are very popular, for good reason; they work great.
Randy, I know this video is a little old but thanks for the good information! I’m a younger/newer shooter and am going elk hunting 1st time this fall. I originally thought I needed a .300 WMR and 170+ gr bullets with a break on barrel. But eventually settled on .308 Weatherby Vanguard (cheaper Howa) mated with Leupold VX-R w/CDS.
That's a good rifle.
cheaper Howa? Same thing with a better stock, isnt it?
I shoot some big guns and absolutely love them. When I go into the woods for whitetail I have a 308. For large game I shoot a 300wsm or a 300 weatherby
I've killed three elk, 1 with a 270 Win. and 2 with a 257 Roberts. I shoot both very well. I have a 338 Win. Mag. that I love and also shoot very well. All of my handloads are around 2700 fps. With a well constructed bullet, they work every time and the recoil is very manageable. Speed helps, but if you can't hit what you aim at, it does you no good. My favorite round is the 6.5 swede. I gave mine to a buddy for his son's first hunting rifle.
When I was way young my first was a sks I never had a problem or got scared shooting a bigger rifle at a younger age .
I use a 300 win mag 180 grain outta a 1971 ruger m77 it kicks like a mule but it was my great great uncles and I respect the tradition and I love the classics
I love the punch my 300 winmag tikka t3 lite has. I will probably change when I get older
Great Googly Moggly! Why all the hate on 300 WM? I dig mine. Recoil isn't that bad. Ammo is cheep. I have a weatherby 300 and a howa 223 that I shoot way more then the 300. The safety, the bolt the every thing else is the same on both guns.
I have three 300 WM. I love them. Great cartridge.
I have 2 .308s one in AR10 that's used for pigs and a ruger American .308 for deer.
BIG lead makes Em' Dead! But so does Shot Placement, and that's why I like my 338-06, easy on the shoulder + good bullet weight for Elk and Bear.
I stumbled up this little gem called Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55mm, it is a magnificent display of precision technology fulfilling its expectations with lethal precise.
Yup. The 6.5s are amazing cartridges.
I shoot a 358 Norma mag for anything bigger than deer. Do I need the power? Probably not but I like the rifle I shoot it very well. I like the fact it cuts a 35 cal hole going in and a nice size exit hole going out and leaves a nice short blood trails. But the best advice I tell people is shoot what you like, shot it often, and you will have success in the feild!
That is the best advice I can think of.
Howa should make these in left handed models!
We're a minority and sales wouldn't be high enough to warrant it
@@madwe2269 Then why do other manufactures, that make cheaper/worse rifles (Savage Axis, Ruger American), and more expensive/better rifles (Christensen Arms Mesa & Ridgeline, Bergara HMR, Ruger M77, etc) than the Howa make left-handed models? There's obviously a market for it.
Try the 6.5 creedmoor with a nosler accubond long range 142 gr
What I'm for on is a rifle with distance and accuracy and good performance like you said some people have to much rifle pluse it good and the best way is to be fitted for a rifle
I use my 300win for hunting everything big game here in bc, mainly hunting mulies in thick close range country with large grizz populations. but once again im very comfortable with shooting it and the perks of it not getting deflected in the buck brush, and a 300win will stop a charging grizz or improve my chances. Especially if the bear spray doesnt work.
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.300 Win Mag is definitely my first choice. I used it to get my first elk
The brush caliber is a myth
Forget the spray because it doesn't work.
My wife and I love our Howas chambered in 6.5x55 Swede.
Justin Treon I have a Tikka T3 in 6.5x55 and it is a tack driver of a round. Used to have a Swedish Mauser (the rounds original rifle) before I got the Tikka. In a military set up that weighs between 8 and 10 pounds, you really don't feel the recoil at all.
Justin Treon me too man!
6.5x55 has been taking big game as long as the 30-06...just not here in the US. Great cartridge.
Wow. I don't feel so bad for having just got a new bolt-action in .308. Some people are acting like I'm a wimp, but honestly, it's about the max I'm comfortable shooting. After a box of 20rds, I'm done and ready to shoot my AR in .223 for a while. :-)
I have a Remington 700bdl in 25-06 and a 700bdl in 300RUM. I wanted my basis covered. However I shoot my marlin 444 for most game. I enjoy a wide variety of calibers.
I think I'm gonna stick with 7mm08, 270, 30-06 for deer on up to moose and 22-250 for song dogs and other predators
Very close to my choices, also. Thanks for watching.
Randy Newberg, Hunter I have a 06. what gr is best for it
Those are all great. I have another one that fits in that category that I absolutely love also. I have a 280 Rem
Jake Fryberger I just killed my first mile deer buck about 2 weeks ago with a 22-250
Whats a song dog?
I use a 30-06 weatherby and a 270wsm browning bar for deer and moose never had an issue yet
Those will work, for sure.
Cat Jack Off-Road what kind of accuracy are you getting out of your BAR?
I recall reading that the 7.92x57 mm Mauser was the cartridge of choice in Europe for big game for quite some time. Still popular, I'm sure. Some have even used it in the past for dangerous game, like elephant.
I'm not familiar with that cartridge.
Really? That might be because I used its official military designation. You might be more familiar with the "8 mm mauser."
I bought a howa alpine in .308 with a floor plate style. I don't like to have a magazine. I tell you what, it light, accurate, and legit as fuck! Got mine through Turners
Agree. I have more rounds though and am way more accurate with my 7mm-08 in 3 years then I was ever in 12 years with my 30-06. The elk in my freezer didn’t know the difference.
i have taken 4 gensbok . 1 eland bull . and 31 springbuck this hunting season . 55 gr vmax 22-250 ruger m77 mark2. and everyone told me thats its to small . but at the end everyones mouths there hanging op . and like they sed i feel comfortable with my rife because its my rifle and masted my rifle. A accurate shot with small cal rifle is more deadly then a unaccurate larger cal rifle. ( point of aim point of inpact )
Great Advice
How much rearward pressure would you say you should have on the rifle when you have it shouldered?
Does howa make the alpine hunter in left hand? I cant find one and that's a deal breaker for me. I shoot left handed and most of my guns are right hand, but I feel it's important to have left hand with a bolt action, mostly for sight acquisition and speed of second or third shots if necessary. On a bipod the difference may not be as great, but when shooting without a rest having to use my support hand to reload vs my trigger hand would greatly increase the time between shots.
They do not make a left-hand model.
Army snipers use 308s and 300 win mags. My question is, why not just split the difference and use 30-06? Worked well for Carlos Hathcock...
I don't know the answer for sure, but I suspect they are looking for a specific cartridge for a specific application and they've settled on those two rounds as the best for each specific application.
From Wikipedia.. "The 7.62x51mm offers the same ballistic performance as the original 1906 load for the .30-06 Springfield, the cartridge it replaced in U.S. service. Modern propellants allowed for similar performance from a smaller case with less capacity, a case that requires less brass and yields a shorter cartridge. This shorter cartridge allows a slight reduction in the size and weight of firearms that chamber it, and somewhat better cycling in automatic and semi-automatic rifles." 308 and 30-06 are very similar in terms of performance, while 300WM can almost be thought of as a 308 or 30-06 "Magnum". Same bullet, but a few hundred feet per second faster. In terms of raw performance, it just means that 300wm hits harder at closer distances, and travels further before gravity pulls it out of the sky. Albeit at the cost of much greater recoil...
The 30-06 is a long case designed for a 24 inch barrel. The 308 is a shorter case with less powder. Less powder to burn means you can use a shorter barrel. a 30-06 in a 20 or 22 inch barrel is just wasting powder and is not efficient. if you put a modern 30-06 in a 24 inch barrel, match it with the same 308, the 30-06 will have at least 150 fps faster than the 308. The 308 is the little brother to the 30-06. The 308 cannot do anything a 30-06 can do, and a 30-06 cannot do anything a 300 win mag can do. If you're shooting a 150 pound white tail deer at 100 yards...a 6.5 Grendel will kill it just as dead as the 300 win mag. It's about having the right tool for the job. You don't need a 16 pound sledge to drive a tack..
As hunters we try to be ethical and kill an animal with the least amount of pain. A quick kill is desired. In the military, we aren't looking for ethical kills. We want what works best to stop a human from trying to kill us. Causing pain is sometimes desirable. For a human sized target, a 3006 is actually over kill. Very little penetration is needed to hit vital organs. On human targets in war, a 6mm, like a 243 or 6mm creedmoor or 6mmAR, might be better suited. 6mmAR works great in AR15, and the 6mm creedmoor with a 105gr bullet would provide significant range over the 308 for DMR or snipers, be less effected by the wind, and have plenty energy on target. Sometimes the weapons and equipment the military gets has nothing to do with what the military wants or needs. In 1906 the 30-06 was a great cartridge for the military. Modern gun powder, bullets, and ballistics show us that anything that'll kill a whitetail deer is more than enough for human targets in war.
Hello there randy I’m a hunter here in Southern California I’m about 245 5’10 used to be about 308 I ise a Remington 700 BDL and a Winchester 70 featherweight both in 30-06 180 grain either hornady GMX or Barnes TTSx for mules and black bear am I over gun?? I can hit comfortable out to 450 maybe 500 yards with my Vortex viper hst
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I used the gmx bullet for bear in 270. Great bullet!
So much wisdom in 3 and 3/4 minutes, speaks volumes. To take down deer, mule deer, and even elk, you do not have to have 7 mm Rem Mag or .300 Win Mag or .300 WSM. You need a rifle you can handle and just about anything will work. The shot placement is key. I have read of big game hunters hitting a beast with .333 OKH or .32 Whelen for at least 3 shots and the beast got away. Maybe died, maybe not. And the would eschew what they considered to fast, something llike a .30-06 180 grain.
I have also seen a guy bring down a moose with one shot of 6.5 Creedmoor. Personally, I hunt with the .308 Win. I think it is the most general round, perfect for whitetail, blacktail, large blacktail (mule deer,) and even elk. And if a 6.5 Creedmoor takes down a moose, certainly a .308 Win will do so.
And I have modified things to make the rifle comfortable to me, no flinching. Rock steady and solid. Shooting 1 MOA and less with a hot barrel.
I have read of an outfitter who sometimes gets a client who thinks cartridge size is magical and bigger is better. And spends 8 grand on a .338 Lapua Mag that he cannot shoot because the recoil stings and he gets a nasty flinch. And the guide takes that gun from him and hands him a .270 with 150 grain or less and he shoots it like a .22 and gets his harvest.
You don't need a .338 Lapua Mag to hunt deer. Now, you can hunt with .450 Bush Master and .350 Legend and that is okay, but those are at slower velocities and are perfect for close range.
Definitely pick the cartridge you can handle, and then find the rifle that can shoot that reliably and more than a few shots. Because you need to practice at the range. Even without all the extra hunting positions and burpees and what not. You need to practice getting calm and settled because that is one of the secrets to a pinpoint shot. The other is angle of the finger on the trigger. Everything else is secondary to that.
Give a Howa about 50-60 rounds to smooth out the bore and then they really start shooting well. I've always given the barrels a minimum of 15 minutes between shots to let these skinny barreled guns time to cool.
Even my buĺl barrel 308 cerakote camouflage. This is the hardest part of my philosophy, but it sure gives me all the confidence in the world when it comes down to hunting the game animals that I thoroughly enjoy.
.300 WSM, Hands down for me. Not because it was cool, or somebody told me it's the best gun. I chose the .300 WSM after trying the .243/.270/30.06/.308 and I just didn't feel comfortable with them. I landed on the .300 WSM years and years ago and I've never looked back. .180gr Nosler Accu for Deer and .200gr Hornady Trophy for Elk, Hogs and Bear. I practiced over and over again and in all my years I have only had one nasty gut shot. Any caliber can be great, but you need to practice and make yourself comfortable with it. 🍻
Randy, is there a specific reason you never mention 30-06 as a cartridge of choice? I know you're partial to the .308. Do you feel the -06 doesn't give you enough advantage over the .308 to be worth it? Is the -06 just a little more recoil than you prefer? Are you just partial to short actions? Thanks
I am partial to short actions, for both the compactness and weight savings I can get. The .308 Win provides those without much sacrifice in performance when compared to the '06. I owned a .30-06 and shot a lot of critters with it. The .30-06 is a great round. Me using a .308 Win is just how my hunting has evolved and what I find useful for those purposes. Thanks for watching.
Randy Newberg, Hunter I have one question. if you did use 06. what grain would you use
Just picked up a Kuiu / Cerecoated 308. Bringing a Leupold 4-14 cds from another rig. Which mounts and rings do you use/like for these rifles? TIA
I use the Leupold Double Dovetails in medium height, depending upon what size objective lens on the scope.
I always laugh when somebody says 30 30 used to be good for shooting deers but not anymore we got to use a 300 Win Mag not like Grandpa's 3030 got to have the best of the best and what I think of is yeah those deers with their Bulletproof Kevlar vests nowadays
Even a 308/30-06/270 is too much for most whitetail hunting situations. Whatever is the reason these people find a need to use a good black bear gun on a 120-200lb deer is beyond me. Not to mention that they're the same group that says my 243's are too small for deer and then use a bow
Randy love your experience. If weight is not a big issue for me. Was wondering how you feel about using an Ar 10 platform for hunting elk? Chambered in 308 with a 18" barrel to you believe they are viable? Do you know anyone that uses that set up? Is this frowned upon?
I don't know anyone who uses it, but if it is accurate, which I suspect it would be, it will be just find for elk. If people frown on what you shoot, just smile and keep shooting it.
Im a old man with lots of hunters in my family. Old and young all have used 270 for all big game..never owned a belted magnum. Have ate alot of elk with a 270.
I shot a lot of calibers and agree with you guys 1000%, I'll just stick to my .308 plain and simple, you guys are right, those that need a giant magnum just want to show off there eggos then start to miss because they don't get comfortable shooting that big magnum, I'm most comfortable shooting my .308 win, or even get a .26 6.5mm caliber like the .260 rem, or the 6.5X55
Hey love your vids look forward for more
Thanks for watching.
I've got a howa 338 win mag. Its a fun gun to shoot
Glad you like it. I don't have a .338. Might need to add to my collection.
Randy Newberg, Hunter I love mine its surprising how little recoil it has.I've got a marlin 3030 that kicks harder than the howa 338
What caliber do you suggest for a deer/antelope gun?
Rob Styron 243, 7mm08, 308, 6.5 creedmoor more, 270, 30-06, 257 roberts all great deer and antelope rounds
I use anything from a 6.5 Creedmoor to a .308 Win. Whatever is most accessible to you.
I bought a Tikka t3 in a .270 WSM last year for my antelope/mule deer hunt. I shot the antelope at 400 yards and he didn't move an inch, dropped on the spot. The mule deer ran about 30 yards with a double lung and went down. I did a lot of research and found with the 270 WSM its a great mid caliber bullet with a lot of speed and probably most important to me was wind deflection is minimal compared to other bullets in its category. There were some days out there where the wind was blowing 25-30+ which can have a huge impact on your shot at 400 yards.
While shot placement is the most important factor, let's not forget that a quick kill is also a responsibility of an ethical hunter.
I have seen bison, and elk shrug off a 308. Both needing follow up shots. I have seen whitetails run 200 + yards from lesser calibers.
The kinetic energy from high velocity rounds like 300 Weatherby and Win-mag do have some merit. Let's not forget wind drift.
Bullet construction is critical as well.
Shoot AS MUCH gun as you can reliably and repeatedly operate.
why not 7 rem mag instead of 338 win mag? 7mm bullet will have less problems in the wind, and higher sectional density for deeper penetration. Besides, a lot of 300 win mag hunters have had to shoot an elk 3 times before it went down. Randy is getting it done with a little 308 or 7mm-08.
the first gun i ever shot was a .22 lr. when i got good with that i wanted to go for big game when i went to the gun shop i told the guy i wanted a gun that could theoretically hunt everything in new mexico. keep in mind here in new mexico we have Oryx, some of the biggest toughest game in north America. he sold me a 300 win mag. i couldnt even sight the damn thing in. it was a 5 lb gun and was too much bang for my buck. i eventually traded it in for a bergara 6.5 creedmoor. it is a wonderful rifle, i wouldnt hunt Oryx with it but it will do the business on elk and coyotes.
Wow, a 5# .300 Win Mag would shake your teeth loose. My .300 Win Mags weight double that with their scopes on them. Good luck.
Ok so I'm returning to this video with a question for you good sir. Today while hiking for spring bear (Southern BC rockies) I came into a herd of Elk down a natural gas cut block. ranged them initially at just under 1200 yds and was able to get in to 600 on a stalk before the cows started looking hinky knowing something was up- I didn't dare try to make another 5 yds. Now I ring a 10x12" gong with boring consistency at 5-800 yds and would feel comfortable shooting that herd bull that had no yet shed (if I was in the right season). If this was September, where I live, a 6x7 or 6x6 herd bull is a once a year or two year opportunity. Would you say to a guy in this position that its better to have a lighter rifle lacking FTLBS down range or better to have the Ubermag we all love to hate? I was just thinking it would be awful to pass the opportunity for fear of your rifles on-game performance at the 5-600 yd mark, but hey I'm new at this yet. As always, your the BOMB, good luck in Alaska!
To me, that is up to each hunter and their personal preference AND how much they practice. It is very seldom that I see elk at 600 yards when I cannot get to 300 yards. I am sure there are instances, but I find elk to be the easiest western big game animal to stalk withing range during rifle season.
Back to the personal preference, even though I shoot a lot at 500 yards and have very good results, my personal preference is to get closer; closer being under 400 yards. That preference is not a function of my rifle/caliber, as at times I am carrying a .300 Win Mag that is ballistically capable at those ranges, rather due to the worry that even the slightest stumble on my part is amplified to a great level at those ranges and I do not want the possible consequences that come with that.
Thanks for watching.
When is Howa going to make a Randy Newberg left hand rifle 300 or 6.5 Creedmoor
Unfortunately, Howa doesn't make left handed rifles. Sorry about that.
I have to say, I love the 308. I like 125 grain bullets for coyotes, antelope, and Barbary sheep. I like the 165 grain for mule deer and elk. I see little reason to use anything else, unless I want a real heavy hitter, then I go to my 300 winchester mag with 200 grain bullets. I see many hunters come through the ranch every year with their crew served weapons, and their results are not impressive. They would be better off with something easier to shoot. Almost no one can reliably shoot past 300 yards under field conditions. All the emphasis on ballistic coefficients is basically pointless out to at least 500 yards with good bullets in standard calibers, and most people should not be trying to kill game farther than that anyway. I am always impressed with how many of the kids are so successful with their 243's. Thanks for the common sense in your videos on these subjects.
Thanks for watching. My hope is that people will be successful and accuracy is the first step toward that.
My first deer gun was a savage 116 weather warrior in 300 win mag with a 6.5x20 Leupold I got the gun in 4th grade and started hunting in 5th I weighed 67lbs my mom said but that gun never bothered me
Hey Randy. I have watched a lot of your content and continue to be a big fan of yours. I was watching your other rifle selection video and had a question. I know you are sponsored by Howa, and no one would argue they make a hell of a rifle. But I noticed in some of your early OYOA vids, you are carrying an old wooden stocked rifle. Is that an old Remington 700? I am always interested in peoples "grandpa guns" - what did you shoot (cal/rifle) before the howa handshake started? take care!
At times I've had most every brand of firearm made. When we started nine years ago you would have seen some old "Grandpa guns." Yes, a Remington 700 and a Kimber. Other than that, it's been all Howa Handshakes.
Thanks for this video. Too many people don't like to admit it, but .300 win mag, .338 lapua mag etc are extreme overkill for anything in North America. In the Nordic countries 6.5x55 swede and 7x57 Mauser are extremely common cartridges for moose hunting. It's all about shot placement. A solid hit with a 7mm-08 is always going to be more lethal than a marginal .338 lapua magnum hit.
Paul Helms however, a solid hit with a lapua is more lethal than a solid hit with a 7mm 08.
Dead is dead no such thing as overkill, I have seen elk taken with 243 at 100 and I have seen elk taken with a 300 winmag at 600 and drop them like a newborn baby it's all about range and training. Most people get hand me down rifles from their grandfather's and fathers and that can be anything . I have seen people out in the field hunting deer and elk with 44mag lever 45-70 single shot all the way up to 375h&h. It all comes down with experience . I love all my rifles equally haha and try to be my best with any of them as much as I can . I do agree with ya mostly 7mm08 ,270 and 257 weatherby are universal for most distance but those mags get em down further out better .
Paul Helms I have a 7mm-08, 30-06, 270 and a 243. The 7mm-08 is by far my favorite of the lot.
I load 139 SST or 150ELD for 7-08. Deadly on med game. I've never tried one on large game. If Randy says it's good then I believe it though.
i use 7mm-08 .. great cal. up to elk..
Agree.
Just bought a weatherby vanguard in 308. How does the weatherby compare to the Howa you shoot Randy?Just wondering
The Vanguard barrel and action is made by Howa, so it should shoot well.
.308 All day long. Plenty.
That is the case for me and how I hunt.
@@Fresh_Tracks I have got into hunting cause of you Mr Newberg . thank you
Accuracy and shot placement outweighs mega-caliber every time.
Agreed, the tendency is to be ‘Overgunned’
Those big calibre cause a lot of ‘flinches’
Great video! Especially since I plan on getting a new elk rifle this year!
Good luck with your choice.
I shot a cow elk in Montana this year at 200 yards with a 7mm-08 with 140gr Nosler E-tips and she went right down. I don’t know why people think elk/moose/caribou etc are these huge mystical creatures that require belted magnum cartridges to kill.
Paul Helms how did the internals look from that e-tip?
Hooraaa for the mighty. 22
I agree, there is NO need for a magnum caliber rifle in North America. 35 whelen is big enough for anything on this continent. So, is 308, 30-06, 358, among others. Whitetail should be in the range of 7mm 08, 243, 6mm and 6.5mm. They are plenty for white tail at any reasonable distance. Oh, and love 6.5x55 for about anything.
exactly why i moved from 30-06 to 6.5, went from 5 inch groups to inch groups
5 inch groups ?? That's NOT the caliber, that's the gun !!
its me being a bitch about recoil
moose drool a 30-06 has recoil?
moose drool did the same and went to 7mm-08 from 30-06. Don’t regret it for one second. Hated that gun. Probably have 3x the rounds through my 7/08 in 1/4 of the time. Pleasure to shoot.
Illustrating why the 7mm-08 is an almost ideal cartridge. More than enough horsepower to get the job done with a recoil that is easily managed by even smallest shooter.
I have three 7mm-.08. Love them all. They shoot great. I'd not hesitate to use them for anything I hunt. Thanks for watching.
I just bought one as my first centerfire rifle
I've been contemplating this for a while now. will be buying a new hunting rifle here soon and I'm looking for one that not only I can handle, but my 15yo son, and my wife can handle as well. I gotta say, I keep on going back to wanting a 7mm-08...... Everything you said, is exactly what I have been researching. I'm from Maine, and it's primary use would be for deer, but do you believe it to be powerful enough for moose? I'm believing it would be but want others opinions.
The 7mm-08 is a ballistic clone of the old 7x57 Mauser which has been used on moose (to great effect) for many years. Use an appropriate bullet and take shots that are within the rifles "point blank range" (325 yards or so) and you'll be just fine.
+BigRedPower59 oh Lord! lol anything beyond 200, I personally don't even shoot. I'll be able to now though but most places I hunt, are within 100yds. .. Thank you again.
30-06 good for everything
It sure is. Probably responsible for filling more freezers than any cartridge in the world.
To each his own. My coilection of
hi-powered rifles span the gamut of
.22-250 to .30-378 Wea; with assorted 6, 7mm and .308 calibers thrown in for good measure. Shoot what you want, for whatever reason you want to shoot it. Never because someone else tells you it's what you need to shoot, because they like it, or it's all you "need".😕
Everybody knows the Marine Corps makes the best snipers. Shot placement beats caliber every single time. Practice your fundamentals of marksmanship as much as you can, it's a perishable skill so keep at it.
@@goatsawar02 - For sure , both very disciplined bunch of guys..
Okay. But why does Army win almost every sniper competition?
Will Spence little late but just some info about the international sniper competition winners.
2020- 3rd SFG
2019- USASOC
2018-75th ranger reg
2017-75th ranger reg
2016- Michigan national guard
2015- Ireland
2014- 1st SFG
2013- Army marksmanship unit
2012- 1st Special Warfare Training Group/Army marksmanship unit
2011- 3rd SFG
2010- Special forces sniper instructors
Why do jtf2, the seals and SAS hold as the longest shot titles and hold the kill count records?
Wise words Randy.
Big game here in Norway dies as well after a good hit by 308 Shot placement is the key word.
Discussing different calibers usability on big game and women have some few things common.
Some of us like the mother......other likes the daughter (better)
Merry Christmas to you Randy.
Kjell Hvamb too bad all you got is moose ad reindeer merry Christmas
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I had a .444 I didn't like never liked to shoot it. Sold it. Happy day.
Ammo prices also who wants to shoot $100 box of ammo , $23 is enough for my 308, I enjoy shooting at the range. Good points good video.
Thanks for watching.
270,308,30-06 your now covered for everything in north America
270 win with premium ammo good enough for elk ? This is my first year going and a lot of people are telling me to get a .30 cal rifle for the heavier ammo
Yes. I shot my first five elk with a .270 Win and 150 grain Nosler Partition bullets.
My 7mm-08 has taken 4 with no issues. Elk don’t go far with a blown up heart and no lungs.
I even disliked my 25-06 because it was so damned loud, and had this huge heavy barrel out front, big wide forend, and tiny skinny grip. I'd been shooting a .30-30 lever action before that.
Looking back, the 30-30 is the gun I shouldn't ever have sold, and ending up with my father-in-law's Remington 700 in .308 is the best thing that could have happened to me.
30-06 nuff said
wound up goin 7mm 08, Tikka T3x
practice , practice ,practice
Yup.
I am 12 and shoot a 270 win and hunt
No but seriously, I live in new Zealand and if not come across much that will walk away from a
.223
Can’t get this rifle anymore.
300 win mag for everything. 24 cartridge options from Federal alone. Go light, go heavy, go ballsitic.
Their is being under gunned jst like being over gunned.
Depends on the game u are hunting.
I only use 1 caliber and it is the 30-06. I will hunt ANY big game animal in the world with my 1903a3 30-06. "If it isn't broke don't fix it."
Yup. I feel the same way about my .308.
An 03 A3 was my 1st rifle . my favorite
Don’t cotton to any .308 calibers. 7mm Rem Mag is my favorite. Had to sell it and now using a 12 gauge. But if I ever get another rifle it’ll be a Tikka T3x hunter in 7mm Rem Mag. The one I had I used to ward off a testy black bear. Love the caliber. You can’t get more bang for the buck than the 7mm Rem Mag. You can definitely get more bang, but a nice price will not happen. Some folks are just recoil sensitive and the magnums just don’t do well for them.
Sooooo, does that mean if I’m comfortable with a 22 I can take down a moose?.... just asking
And people say there is no such thing as a stupid question......
Hunt widh 300 win the animal haw no Pain .
If the public could buy rockets, we could get the umph we need with a recoil-less platform. Might not be much of anything left of anything you shoot at though.
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They were shooting Remington's and they are choosing cartridges not calibers.