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    This is meant to be an informal chat about my thoughts on hotep[s and Black patriarchy in general. I’m considering doing a much more detailed video about this topic because I feel that there is a lot more to cover (re: buck breaking, conspiracies and he Black community, Black capitalism etc.) so that will be…a video for another day.
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  • @KhadijaMbowe
    @KhadijaMbowe  3 года назад +260

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    • @nuflowerempire7640
      @nuflowerempire7640 3 года назад +3

      Your purpose should be building a productive family and setting a high standard for your future generations to come. But you yourself has been caught up in the politics of the same diseases you are fighting against.

    • @realniqqa101
      @realniqqa101 3 года назад +2

      So your a No-tep or nah? She just explained she wasn't built to just give a man a family. When you start having a period, can deliver a child from your body and have to deal with high amounts of oestrogen in your body then talk to her. 👿 tf

    • @twebster179
      @twebster179 3 года назад +1

      That sounds like a movie that would absolutely make me livid..

    • @kaeg.7800
      @kaeg.7800 3 года назад +1

      Your singing at the end was so beautiful 🥰

    • @lloydinfamous5032
      @lloydinfamous5032 3 года назад +1

      Please go back to Africa.

  • @djj2696
    @djj2696 3 года назад +1108

    As a black male therapist, this is one of the reasons that I came into this field. To help black men correctly process this generational trauma so that they don't externalize it and do harm to black woman and members of the LGBTQ+ community. Because honestly we do need to be holding each other accountable more than anyone else.

    • @wattakesselly6463
      @wattakesselly6463 3 года назад +45

      Thank you for all you do David.

    • @finalnightalive9498
      @finalnightalive9498 3 года назад +33

      Thanks man you doing God's work 🙌

    • @coagulatedsalts4711
      @coagulatedsalts4711 3 года назад +45

      same with my sister, she got a pHD in clinical counseling so she could help educate counselors on incorporating cultural differences into their methodologies so more POC feel like they are heard. That and she wanted more South Asians in clinical counseling so that our communities begin to identify and fix the generational traumas we have.

    • @hello3251
      @hello3251 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/PS9ecTC_2AY/видео.html

    • @yesihavealastname1562
      @yesihavealastname1562 3 года назад +4

      what the black community needs more than anything else is a positive black patriarchy. all the other races have this, and that's why they're successful.

  • @jazzknh1105
    @jazzknh1105 3 года назад +2169

    Hoteps wanting the same power over black women as white men have over white women is the most concise explanation of those guys i've ever heard.

    • @tacrewgirl
      @tacrewgirl 3 года назад +96

      Agreed. As soon as she made that connection, I was like, ALRIGHT. It's so obvious it's blinding. It's like they think they are being coy, but nah son, everyone can what you really want. I like the Jeff Bezos analogy she gave.

    • @femdivinemind7777
      @femdivinemind7777 3 года назад +80

      They want the same power over black women that white men have over them. That's what it actually is.

    • @youramess8929
      @youramess8929 3 года назад +146

      They want the same power but don’t provide the same resources and protection. A whole joke.

    • @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
      @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 года назад +3

      Preach it!!!!

    • @mirikaye5606
      @mirikaye5606 3 года назад +45

      @@youramess8929 Now YOU hit the nail on the head!

  • @itscris1973
    @itscris1973 3 года назад +1422

    People be preaching black lives matter but will kick their sons out of their home for being gay. Make it make sense. And this is especially true here in the Caribbean. The homophobia is practically normalised.

    • @BeautifulEarthJa
      @BeautifulEarthJa 3 года назад +128

      not 'practically' but fully normalised....at least in jamaica

    • @lynx3845
      @lynx3845 3 года назад +39

      @@BeautifulEarthJa it’s normalized everywhere

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 3 года назад +63

      #BlackGayLivesMatter

    • @BeautifulEarthJa
      @BeautifulEarthJa 3 года назад +69

      #BlackTransLivesMatter

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 3 года назад +45

      @@BeautifulEarthJa #BlackNBLivesMatter

  • @ObeyLucifer
    @ObeyLucifer 3 года назад +445

    Oh my god... My dad is a hotep. I didn't know there was a word for it. He's genuinely awful. The way how he degrades black women and feminism is astounding, he claims to be oh so holy yet continued to abuse me and my sister while growing up. I'm glad I got rid of him for now.

    • @onlychild5213
      @onlychild5213 3 года назад +68

      Yet they will say “atleast I’m around!”

    • @slothful2039
      @slothful2039 3 года назад +124

      @@onlychild5213 An absent father is 100% better than an abusive one.

  • @theklr
    @theklr 3 года назад +1555

    As the son of a hotep, it took me until leaving home for college to recognize the issues and realize it’s just another trap. Forcing myself to be more uncomfortable and listening more to other marginalized people allowed me to start doing the work. The harder part I’m facing is being a mirror for my other hoteps to see the errors in their logic

    • @FDSignifire
      @FDSignifire 3 года назад +133

      Similar here. Thankfully I had other less toxic pan African influences in my upbringing but man... it's gotta be similE to what fundamentalist Christians go through

    • @imanigordon6803
      @imanigordon6803 3 года назад +108

      As a black man I think all of us have a little hotep in us because when we learn about the system that messed us up for a long time the first thing we do is aim to try to “fight back” and of course we run into the hotep rhetoric. I knew I had some issues when I started comparing the lgbt to supremacists that was my wake up call but I think since majority of us come from struggle we’re trying to get back at the ones the wronged us so bad the hotep concept is powerful for many of us brothers

    • @Lucifersfursona
      @Lucifersfursona 3 года назад +43

      It’s all about forcing yourself to be uncomfortable and listening and working.
      I love seeing more people come into that :) every one of you /gen

    • @BlackNella
      @BlackNella 3 года назад +5

      @@imanigordon6803 that's real

    • @imanigordon6803
      @imanigordon6803 3 года назад +68

      @@BlackNella Yeah when you actually think about the hotep concept it’s basis is surrounded by the need to fight back and win. So of course to win you need an army. So hotep creates this patriarchal mindset that deems anything that derails creating an army of black men to fight against white supremacy then you’re the enemy. So if your a pro-choice black women who chooses to in there words “erase the black race” then you’re the enemy. If your a black feminist who believes women should be treated as individuals is an enemy because they believe it removes the men and family which removes the “army”. If your lgbt then you don’t produce kids so to them you’re an agent built to destroy the “army”. It’s a bunch of hurt men seeking retaliation, so they take it out on the community I had to deal with this fact.

  • @FDSignifire
    @FDSignifire 3 года назад +354

    Idk if my comments showed up in the live chat but thank you so much Kadija for the shout out.
    Thank you for the perspective and display of empathy as well. It's a difficult topic to navigate and you showed more grace than most of these guys are owed from your stand point.
    Salute.

    • @WashingtonDC20032
      @WashingtonDC20032 2 года назад +5

      Yaaazzzzzzzz for the gathering and shout out of my favorite RUclipsrs!!!!!! Love you guys!

  • @Princess_Weekes
    @Princess_Weekes 3 года назад +715

    We shaking the table!!!!

  • @MiniM69
    @MiniM69 3 года назад +662

    Wouldn’t it be nice if masculinity meant minding your own business! Also, hoteps purposefully ignore the actual threats of white supremacy on their everyday in lieu of sexism and prejudice.

    • @gc.96
      @gc.96 3 года назад +60

      Hoteps are agents of white supremacy, why do you think FBI allows them to roam free ?

    • @imanigordon6803
      @imanigordon6803 3 года назад +3

      @@gc.96 how are they agents? Explain

    • @gc.96
      @gc.96 3 года назад +65

      @@imanigordon6803 they create division among black people allowing white supremacy to thrive, divide and conquer.

    • @hazelbasil6451
      @hazelbasil6451 3 года назад +70

      @@gc.96 Additionally, an interesting phenomenon among the extreme hoteps (including separatists) is that they are known to tolerate and mingle with actual white supremacists because there goals are the same. Its def weird but I've seen it before!!

    • @imanigordon6803
      @imanigordon6803 3 года назад +10

      @@gc.96 I think there are many folks that do that in the black community besides hoteps like the Candace Owens types, black women vs trans, religious folks, light skins vs dark) I think we’re just very divisive entirely and that’s the main issues.

  • @Jill-ih9dq
    @Jill-ih9dq 3 года назад +153

    “the math ain’t mathin’” really got me, Khadija 😂

  • @micah459
    @micah459 3 года назад +785

    Not going to lie but I sometimes do feel a type of way when I don't see black couples (gay or straight) in the media. Like now we've gotten all interracial couples and while there's nothing wrong with that, I find it a problem when you do it in REPLACE of black couples.

    • @TheAudraReins
      @TheAudraReins 3 года назад +142

      Yes!!! Where's the black love? And The way they constantly pair a dark skinned woman with a problematic, toxic af yt man? Over it

    • @theimplications635
      @theimplications635 3 года назад +194

      @Audra at Home where are you finding these dark-skinned women? It's always a white girl with a Black man and then their mixed (and always light skinned) daughter with some white boy lol.

    • @tonyt1680
      @tonyt1680 3 года назад +5

      It's kind of reflecting reality though lol

    • @carolin2220
      @carolin2220 3 года назад +87

      @@tonyt1680 I don’t think so. Don’t see many white men with black women. Plenty of white women with black men though.

    • @dionysus9876
      @dionysus9876 3 года назад +34

      @@tonyt1680 True, I live in CO, and BM w/ WW is HEAVILY prevalent here. A much smaller % of BW with WM, but it also somewhat common here. Most Black couples are older generations like Gen X or Boomers.

  • @nataliemoeketsi7263
    @nataliemoeketsi7263 3 года назад +300

    okay, I see that sponsorship! As a young African black woman in her 20 somethings... who sees her aunties, mothers, cousins, and friends who are both straight and queer in you, I would love for you to know that we love and are proud of you.YAAAS GALL!!!

  • @niasimms8401
    @niasimms8401 3 года назад +114

    My first unfortunate encountered hoteps would be in my early teens I was confused as to why he was degrading black women about our hair?? Ever since I've been looking at the black community with a whole different view, things that make you question who's benefit is this in. A lot of the politics learned growing up are in fact generational curses!!! I refuse to be unhappy and feel unsafe by the very ones I encourage and protect so muchhh. How can you turn around and denounce my existence? Sometimes it's hard but you have to let go, skin-folk ain't always kin-folk.

    • @jonathankoskey9394
      @jonathankoskey9394 3 года назад +2

      @Kennedy Thedford Hotels. 😂😂😂. In fact it's great to distort the name Hotep, it further adds to their humiliation.

  • @thebowandbullet
    @thebowandbullet 3 года назад +152

    I'm so glad you're speaking about this! I have noticed that within the Black community, all focus is on racism, but there's still so much sexism within the community. Patriarchy is strong within the Black community (I know, generalizing), and yet, this has always seemed to be a surface thing to me; Black women tend to rule the home and community. This is a very touchy subject, but I just hope for a future where everyone is released from having to abide by old standards and we can just be ourselves, valid and happy, without oppressing anyone.

    • @coreythomas3633
      @coreythomas3633 3 года назад

      YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT BEING GAY OR A FEMINIST HAS IMPROVE THE BLACK COMMUNITY LOL.

    • @22centipede
      @22centipede 3 года назад +6

      ​@@coreythomas3633 Literally nothing was brought to the table, only being loud and wrong at the same time and that's not a good look for you or anyone like yourself. Also, commenting this bs repeatedly on every comment is ill. Black LGBT+ folks are the foundation for modern cultural movements but hey...
      PS. Grow up.

    • @kumquat9928
      @kumquat9928 2 года назад

      @@coreythomas3633 and you have no proof it degrades our community either 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @toledoboogz9817
    @toledoboogz9817 3 года назад +262

    Auntie, I gotta correct you on something. They are not their "women," they are either their "Queens" or "females."
    Woman doesn't seem to exist in their vocabulary.
    And nope, they don't want to change the Status Quo, only the complexion of it.

    • @niteskies
      @niteskies 3 года назад +50

      Don’t forget “womb-men”

    • @essiethebestie1
      @essiethebestie1 3 года назад +4

      I said the same thing lol

    • @WashingtonDC20032
      @WashingtonDC20032 2 года назад +10

      Calling women females has become a thing over the years but to me it sounds like you’re stripping women of their humanity with that. I never did like it. Even women mock the men and call themselves that sometimes. A dog could be a female for crying out loud

  • @ndcoach29
    @ndcoach29 3 года назад +22

    “Instead of fighting for a piece of this shitty little pie, why not throw that whole thing out and make a new one?” 🤯 💯

  • @pattycannon1804
    @pattycannon1804 3 года назад +124

    Whenever someone says hotep the first thing that comes to my mind is the character Sharif the film menace to society.

  • @Qdub34
    @Qdub34 3 года назад +59

    how many times will we repeat the disgusting acts of slave masters before we realize that this is vestigial trauma? STOP PERPETUATING SUPREMICIST IDEALS

  • @mpumelelokhumalo7107
    @mpumelelokhumalo7107 3 года назад +234

    Informative. Laid back. Entertaining.
    I love how they explain that there's Black men who are problematic without attacking them and actually validating their experiences (I didn't know that was possible and I think it's one of those situations where they [Hoteps] don't deserve sympathy but they definitely need help). Point is, you're a royal. Thank you❤

    • @s0Shi
      @s0Shi 3 года назад +23

      Agreed 👏
      (just to clarify, I believe the creator goes by they/them pronouns-based on their bio 😽)

    • @mpumelelokhumalo7107
      @mpumelelokhumalo7107 3 года назад +18

      @@s0Shi thank you for bringing that to my attention. I'll correct that in a few

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 3 года назад +5

      Mma Khumalo, Sawubona, as a Male , i have a number of very difficult Hoteps in my family , my worldview and my perception of the normalcy of my heritage is not a reaction to Belungu. I decided to not throw Hoteps away for the exact same reason why Black women have trouble calling the police because they are afraid their tormentor might be murdered. We are in a very grey and murky area where we have to protect the elements that poison our souls. i don't know that have enough patience to help a Hotep, i think I am not built for it but the best i can do is not write them off because they need a "home".

    • @mpumelelokhumalo7107
      @mpumelelokhumalo7107 3 года назад +2

      @@thando4523 saze salithwala idombolo😅😅

    • @mpumelelokhumalo7107
      @mpumelelokhumalo7107 3 года назад +1

      @@PHlophe I think that's the worst: knowing that someone is problematic and still having to love them. But we make it work as Black people👌

  • @nonhlanhlanhlapo5438
    @nonhlanhlanhlapo5438 3 года назад +36

    Yes, these are the conversations we should be having a black people. Much love from South Africa!

  • @VLM123
    @VLM123 3 года назад +211

    Their facial expression sums it up, for me!

    • @lola.odetola
      @lola.odetola 3 года назад +3

      😳

    • @JulianSteve
      @JulianSteve 3 года назад +2

      Me too😭💯

    • @snowpocalypse69
      @snowpocalypse69 3 года назад +4

      Khadija uses they/them pronouns 🙂

    • @VLM123
      @VLM123 3 года назад +2

      @@snowpocalypse69 Thank you for the reminder. I corrected my comment.

  • @stitchedwithcolor
    @stitchedwithcolor 3 года назад +32

    Thank you for this. Gawd, i hate that we (as a species, TBH) have such a long and storied history of fighting one kind of oppression by propping up another.

    • @maldon3659
      @maldon3659 3 года назад +2

      It's a vicious cycle

  • @leanna3625
    @leanna3625 3 года назад +61

    I've also seen hoteps post videos encouraging 'replacement theory' where they celebrate African women having 6+ kids and European women having fewer kids. It's agitating because fewer kids is directly connected to women getting more education and bodily autonomy.

  • @bubz4994
    @bubz4994 3 года назад +15

    as a cis gay white man, this taught me so much. thank you for making this and speaking about this topic.

  • @HKReadings
    @HKReadings 3 года назад +33

    As I say, people don’t want equality, they want privilege.. *edit* [some] people.
    Btw, hayyy, fellow Taurean ♉️ !!!

  • @nick-xr7nm
    @nick-xr7nm 3 года назад +19

    I really enjoyed this video and thank you for this!! As a Black man myself, it is so important that I continue having these discussions with people (especially straight Black men) and creating safe spaces for queer and trans women of color (especially Black queer and trans women); thank you again and love your videos/content🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @fran2815
    @fran2815 3 года назад +135

    how the hell do you talk about the Stonewall riots...and not talk about the black and brown trans activists? that's the whole thing.....

    • @demonetizationbutton2388
      @demonetizationbutton2388 3 года назад +5

      I mean, if you just mention the stonewall riots and don’t really go that deep into it I could see that, but I have a feeling based on their wording that’s not the case…

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 3 года назад

      Marsha.

    • @celanba
      @celanba 3 года назад +16

      They made a whole movie in like 2015 that didn't center black and brown trans activists. Made up some white gay guy to be the star.

    • @fran2815
      @fran2815 3 года назад +12

      @@celanba OH GOD i remember that. what a goddamn joke.

    • @victoriap1649
      @victoriap1649 3 года назад +4

      @@celanba yup and people still wear Milk shirts in Wilton manors and believe he’s the hero. I’ve had to teach old white gay men (community leaders unfortunately) that are literally three times my age about Sylvia Riviera and Marsha P Johnson. The misinformation and white washing is so insidious
      Edit for spelling

  • @kropotkinnie
    @kropotkinnie 3 года назад +21

    Really happy to see this as a member of the LGBT community. Being a minority never gives you an excuse to be shitty to other minorities, and that weird division and hatred only makes us all weaker.

  • @Jakarralarue
    @Jakarralarue 3 года назад +33

    Girlll!!! I recently ended a talk stage with a hotep. I have family members who are Lgbtqia in my life and that was not going to fly for me. He also would post content about how women cheat more than men and more. Sigh. He had to go LOL.

  • @heheh6727
    @heheh6727 3 года назад +82

    The way I been waiting on someone to finally talk about this

  • @nyanteea226
    @nyanteea226 3 года назад +9

    As a dark skin black woman I felt all of this so much. And even though I’m cis and straight I never have identified with feminist Bc to me it was never created for me. It’s so interested how many people are stuck trying to attain standards that they don’t have to meet. Hyper masculinity and hyper femininity are sooo real and they are suffocating

  • @Alicee1andOnly
    @Alicee1andOnly 3 года назад +7

    I am so glad you decided to speak on this topic, I dont feel its touched on enough. You Go Girl!! (Yes, I am older a older Black Woman & I love your channel!)

  • @346ego
    @346ego 3 года назад +6

    The black community has so much to unpack but so few are willing to… I listen to my uncle (he’s an hotep through and through) and it’s so infuriating the way he always tries to convince people of my family that he’s right and almost no one calls him out? because he’s a man and supposedly knows what he’s talking about? Mix it with religion (he’s extremely religious) and it’s just… SO toxic and disheartening.

  • @ATINA271
    @ATINA271 3 года назад +59

    Within our black communities, women showing up have become the norm and the expectation. If the women will stand back and allow them to handle their own issues and challenges then they have no choice, its either stand up or perish. Most black men have been carried for decades by their mothers, sisters, wifes, cousins, and everybody else. Most black men have not been shown how and what to do in their homes let alone in their communities. I am a black women! We need to hold them accountable, praise effort, but encourage them to strive for better. Its black women that are in the way!

    • @tmarie69
      @tmarie69 3 года назад +14

      “Women showing up have become the norm and the expectation”
      Say it again!! 🗣🗣
      And everybody looks at you crazy when you don’t bend over backwards for the men in the community.

    • @essiethebestie1
      @essiethebestie1 3 года назад

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @jakeali8717
    @jakeali8717 3 года назад +11

    If Hoteps had the opportunity to control a city or town in any way shape or form their system would quickly begin to look like fascism.

  • @MartyMcFly__25
    @MartyMcFly__25 3 года назад +20

    Don't always comment but love the content! I'm straight Cis black man who was raised by a father whose on Hotep level 1million. Love all the social commentary and perceptive you provide.

  • @katthekitkatbar
    @katthekitkatbar 3 года назад +19

    You singing at the end really helped combat the stress of thinking about the hoteps🤚

  • @Lennymoss
    @Lennymoss 3 года назад +10

    the singing at the end is such a treat, we are spoiled!

    • @denisse6940
      @denisse6940 3 года назад +1

      Facts! Velvety smooth vocals. Would buy the e.p.

  • @chantellew1782
    @chantellew1782 3 года назад +12

    Misty was my Grama’s song. Thank you for bringing her to me this Sunday. May you have a calm week.

  • @Kiana688
    @Kiana688 3 года назад +175

    I really want to get a video explaining why you feel like she/her pronouns are an “ideal of white womanhood” like you can call yourself they/them no problem! But to say that she/her pronouns are an “ideal of white womanhood” imma need a video on that cuz it sounds very CLOSE to saying black women can’t be considered she/her even though we live in a westernized racist society.
    Also eastern societies are capable and have done the same violence you are blaming the west for.
    Either way would love to see a video with you breaking down your thought process about that.

    • @02TheAnne
      @02TheAnne 3 года назад +77

      Your comment made me think about lots of things!When Khadija said that I really felt it, even though I, a black woman, use she/her pronouns - but it was very interesting to see your comment and another perspective.
      Personally, what I understood from Khadija's affirmation was that the female gender in the west is very much built for white women. And since gender is a social construct, a lot of ideas, expectations, behaviors etc. are rooted in each gender. As a black woman, I feel like this female gender - the social construct - does not speak to me at all. Not only that, I feel like people around me don't see me as a woman neither. So I understood that Khadija was telling us that here in the West is very hard to label yourself a woman while being black, because you might find that you do not meet the expectations. However, I don't think they necessarily mean black women can't use she/her pronouns; just that for them it made more sense to use they/them. Khadija even says they labels herself as a "black woman", from what I interpreted that it's precisely the west "white female" construct that doesn't fit them.
      Also, I feel that as black we can and should use she/her pronouns if we want, but I think the "femininity" (couldn't find other word) we claim is not exactly the same as the one in the female gender socially created for and by white people. From this perspective, I think what Khadija said is true, so we can either opt to renounce she/her pronouns or reclaim it while giving it new meanings.
      Nway, I don't know if what I said makes sense and hope you won't mind me replying your comment (since it was direct to Khadija, not me). Sorry for my broken English, this is not my first language.

    • @chioma916
      @chioma916 3 года назад +29

      @@02TheAnne your english is far from “broken”-you raised many nuanced points that i agree with 1000% as a fellow Black femme they/them

    • @Kiana688
      @Kiana688 3 года назад +63

      @@02TheAnne yeah I think this is very dangerous rhetoric and I hate to say it. My womanhood is not defined with how white supremacy or people who subscribe to that ideals look at me and if if you changing your pronouns because of how other people look at you then that is just playing into white surpramacy. My womanhood has been questioned but that makes me no less of a she/her or a woman cuz it’s what I personally and spiritually identify with. If you don’t spiritually identify with womanhood than ok but to wrap womanhood around an oppressive system like that and center WHITE woman and “western” society like we were people (women) before all these harmful societal constructs like…you really not working through the trauma you are playing into it.
      Very problematic and I think it’s another form of misogynoir. But then again I could be wrong. Khadijah calling themselves they/them not hurting me the reasoning is just not making sense and sounds like remixed white supremacy to me.
      But I am always open to respectful discourse to understand.
      Also I know there has been a rise in femininity discourse and some can be problematic (similar to how anything in a group can have problematic groups even feminism) but at the end of the day If personally a black woman wants to be feminine.
      She can.
      Because black women were feminine beings way before these constructs where even though of. So now you saying someone spiritual expression is not attainable or real because of the bigotry of other people.
      We need more nuance in these convos. Cuz it’s really about choice. If a BW wants to be feminine she can and if she wants to be in her masculine…she can.
      But the person who should make that decision is the black women based off of her own spiritual aura not what other people or society project on her.
      People/society project onto trans women “not being women” all the time but it does not and should not stop them from expressing their identity or femininity. Sooo the math is not adding up for me.

    • @Kiana688
      @Kiana688 3 года назад +34

      @@chioma916 so are you calling yourself they/them because you are non binary or because you feel like a system does not “allow” you to be a she/her?
      Because if it’s the latter than I am confused…because that is not how they/them or non binary people were introduced to me at all.
      Nonetheless I respect your decision.

    • @Kiana688
      @Kiana688 3 года назад +41

      I want to add that in no way am I trying to not respect the identities of non binary people or am I debating these people rights to express themselves in whatever way they want. I am asking Khadija to explain to learn and try to understand.
      However they do not owe me that and whether I agree with their reasoning or not. I will respect their pronouns.

  • @schindermania
    @schindermania 3 года назад +6

    i'm really glad you made that point about "girl boss," it helped explain some of my discomfort when men say "i'm a girl dad!" i get that they're being proud of their daughters, but it feels like trying to prove their not disappointed they didn't get a son. I liked what you said about it needing to be egalitarian, it's the same. Why aren't they just excited to be dads?

  • @malindarayallen
    @malindarayallen 3 года назад +36

    I appreciate everything you said. I would argue that patriarchy isn't just a Western European construct. It's a cross-cultural construct. It exists in nearly every cultur the world over. It came over with us, and many men don't want to give up that privilege in the march toward equality.

    • @mochilover7053
      @mochilover7053 2 года назад

      Do you have any citations to prove this?

    • @malindarayallen
      @malindarayallen 2 года назад

      @@mochilover7053 nope

    • @mochilover7053
      @mochilover7053 2 года назад +2

      @@malindarayallen Yeah, that's a problem. There is no evidence of patriarchy being ubiquitous throughout humanity.

    • @malindarayallen
      @malindarayallen 2 года назад

      @@mochilover7053 do you have citations to prove this lack of proof? 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @mochilover7053
      @mochilover7053 2 года назад +5

      @@malindarayallen Oh you're back. Yeah, many west and central west African cultures were and still don't perceive the sexes in the way that the west does. Keep in mind, these gender norms were tailored by and for Europeans during feudalism -or even further, classical Greece.
      You can also compare how European and African languages refer to people. If you speak English, French, German, etc. you address people on whether they're masculine or feminine when that isn't the case for many African languages.
      I'll see if I can some documents verifying this.

  • @plutototoh
    @plutototoh 3 года назад +7

    You are so sweet and such a comfortable person to watch even when you’re talking through heavy topics! I really appreciate your analysis and delivery and honesty. You’re really cool, Khadija

  • @LucasLima-ou3sz
    @LucasLima-ou3sz 3 года назад +32

    You talked about hoteps and there's a black Facebook group here in Brazil who claim that white Europeans who brought "homosexuality" to black people and also say that homosexuality is an white European invention (I'm not lying this group exists and caused a lot of controversy within the black community)

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 3 года назад +3

      @African Sun Have you seen the documentary 'God Loves Uganda'? It's pretty upsetting. Religious fundamentalism is definitely feeding into this.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 3 года назад +4

      It's those same kinds of idiots over in Africa (don't remember exactly where; sorry) who accused gay people of corrupting lions.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 3 года назад

      @African Sun That, or they know and don't care, and they see it as a convenient lie to manipulate the masses. Considering how pretty much EVERY authoritarian movement EVER has used the existence of people that aren't zedd/cis/heteronormative as a scare tactic with the more conservative people in their population, it doesn't really matter which; it's still cruel.

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 3 года назад +2

      @@christopherb501 First the frogs 🐸, now the lions? 🦁 😱

    • @Mayaotsu
      @Mayaotsu 3 года назад

      eu pensei que essa merda n tinha chego aqui ainda assustador

  • @CamazonPrime
    @CamazonPrime 3 года назад +14

    I need a “Say No To Hoteps“ shirt

    • @WashingtonDC20032
      @WashingtonDC20032 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the idea!!!!! Gonna head right on over to the shirt design store and have one made!
      “Don’t Hotep on me!”

    • @CamazonPrime
      @CamazonPrime 2 года назад

      @@WashingtonDC20032 drop the link when you do!!!

  • @EJS92
    @EJS92 3 года назад +64

    Part of why I want to study gender and sexuality is because there’s simply not enough varied discourse on the experience of being a gay black man. It could be I’m not looking in the right places, but so much of what I see is centered on sex instead of how sex plays a part in the formation of gay black men’s existence and how they navigate it.
    Anyway, I’ma be sitting here at 1:15 waiting for the drop like I’m clocking in a for a shift at work.

  • @jonathankoskey9394
    @jonathankoskey9394 3 года назад +6

    Returned here after Dababy's performance where he shamed Megan and talked about gays sucking bananas in parking lot. And of course TI and Lil Boosie, the most notorious misogynists and homophobes defended him, and said their own dumb stuff. There is always solidarity among the hoteps.

  • @sneedmando186
    @sneedmando186 3 года назад +6

    I’m a mixed dude, this is important to talk about and deal with in our community, thanks for the awesome video ♥️

  • @antoniopilgrim6446
    @antoniopilgrim6446 3 года назад +2

    This was amazing! You addressed something that’s rarely discussed in our community and how toxic this thought pattern of the patriarchal norms is damaging to, not only those who don’t fit in that system but to the black community as a whole. My family subscribes to patriarchal behavior and it’s disheartening; I feel that more poc need to examine this topic. Thank you for breaking this down in a very digestible way.

  • @srishti555
    @srishti555 3 года назад +12

    your voice is so calming i love it omg

  • @sparklingdaisy3169
    @sparklingdaisy3169 3 года назад +5

    For a long time my father would call gay men the f word. And I would have to tell him not to use that word because it's offensive and he says society has changed to where you can't say what you want. But, he'll get pissed if someone calls another black man the n word. The double standard of it all.

  • @juliamhass
    @juliamhass 3 года назад +504

    Okay, embarrassing white lady confession time: I'd heard this aspect of Black masculinity discussed academically, but I had no idea "hotep" was the slang term for it because I'd only heard "hotep" used to describe pop culture figures/musicians so I thought "The Hoteps" was like... a band. (I'm sorry!!!! We're learning and growing.)
    I think it was incredibly astute for you to point out how similarly this reads to white feminism. In my experience, this kind of ideology exists in some form in pretty much every marginalized community I've either been part of (hi Jewish community, talking about you) or observed. It's basically the idea that there's some sort of vast conspiracy keeping [insert marginalized community here] oppressed, and if we just overthrew the conspiracy and placed [marginalized community] in their rightful place at the top, then all problems would be fixed. When you're oppressed by a group of people, it's a lot less work to imagine that the solution to your marginalization is simply to place yourself atop the hierarchy because you're somehow more worthy of it than the people who are there, rather than understand that power is inherently a corrupting force and equality only comes from dismantling the concept of hierarchies altogether. And, as a bonus, believing in your own exceptionalism feels good! Especially if you have a fragile ego or sense of self because you're not good at existing in the very narrow role society has attempted to squeeze you into, the idea of believing that your inability to fill that role is because of your own inherent exceptionalism is a very comforting narrative. Like, so comforting it's the basis of 99% of YA fiction.

    • @juliamhass
      @juliamhass 3 года назад +104

      ​@Motown Gayes It's a lot of the basis behind the ideology of Israel's current ultra right-wing that's had a stranglehold on their government for the past few decades: everyone's out to get us, we have to strike pre-emptively against any potential enemies to protect ourselves, yadda yadda yadda. Israeli Jews tend to feel that they're the real Jews while we non-Israelis are too assimilated and not really Jewish enough. I don't know the exact logic of why they think this or what they think we don't do "right", I only know that they feel this way and that any time I sense this subject coming up I find an excuse to leave the room. I hesitate to call this philosophy "Zionism", though, because Zionism is a blanket term that can mean anything from hardcore Israeli nationalists to the majority of non-Israeli Jews who (like me) feel it's necessary and important for Israel to exist while also strongly disagreeing with the way it's choosing to exist right now.

    • @UdoADHD
      @UdoADHD 3 года назад +71

      I’m cacklin that she thought hotep was a band 😂😂

    • @juliamhass
      @juliamhass 3 года назад +56

      ​@@UdoADHD This was in part because there's real band called "Sam Sham and the Pharaohs" who I grew up hearing on oldies/Motown radio, and suggest googling them if you want to see the dictionary definition of Things We Allowed In The Sixties That In Retrospect We Definitely Shouldn't Have.

    • @Pr3ttyPariah
      @Pr3ttyPariah 3 года назад +14

      @@UdoADHD 😂 same

    • @luizaribeiro2141
      @luizaribeiro2141 3 года назад +4

      you summed it up so well

  • @ilikeditbetterbefore
    @ilikeditbetterbefore 3 года назад +4

    It is very real. As a Salvadoran, I have had the uncomfortable conversation with another Salvadoran who doesn't believe in systemic racism, even though he had just talked about how his British mother was able to go through the airport with great acid.

  • @DieezahArts
    @DieezahArts 3 года назад +4

    When you have to live with this problem on a tiny territory like the island I'm from it's even more tiring. I was discussing this very thing with my mom regarding a brother whose activism recently resulted in him being locked-up for almost a month. I supported him and his actions and I know my mom through her org activities supports him too. I was about to translate his thank you video (which he posted on youtube just after his release) where he was explaining how he got arrested and where he was thanking folks for supporting him. My goal was to share the info with our caribbean anti colonialist brothers. I just stopped dead when I heard him go out of nowhere into a rant which is really an illustration of the issues you just addressed here. I couldn't watch the video to the end. I was disgusted. How many of us kept showing up for him each time a protest was not ending well for him and in a thank you video he's saying "faya burn"? For real? Most people here feel they can't really be themselves in public spaces for fear of violence, that's how bad the homophobia is on this island but for a while there, it almost felt like things were slowly improving... I'm sorry to say my younger brother has turned into one of these authoritarian Hoteps.

  • @luishp3
    @luishp3 3 года назад +6

    This is so illuminating, and necessary.

  • @Kenji07
    @Kenji07 3 года назад +3

    You make me want to create content so badly. Thank you! Inspiring!

  • @Ultimime
    @Ultimime 3 года назад +5

    I'm an African man so hoteps are basically almost my whole male social circle. I have hotep tendencies too my god.

  • @Justherejustthere
    @Justherejustthere 3 года назад +3

    You would love @Intelexual Media, her videos are so informative, detailed, and *chefs kiss*. Iirc she did a video that touches on this as well.

  • @femchad3317
    @femchad3317 3 года назад +6

    Who thinks you're straight?! You're way to fun!❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @bigsolo6952
    @bigsolo6952 3 года назад +3

    I was once involved with a hotep sista... and then she came out the closet. I feel like she was projecting onto others the fact that she didn’t accept herself. We lost contact but I hope she’s found healing. Great video and insight 🙏🏽🔥

  • @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
    @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting video and I enjoyed the discussion. That is something I do love about you, Khadija, and why I subscribed. I don't agree with everything yet I absolutely LOVE your openness, the wisdom you share, and the fact that you show and inspire differing perspectives on a variety of subjects. That is the path that leads to a more cohesive humankind. And I celebrate you for that!!!!
    YES, I am TIRED and need the Brothahs to step up and stop treating us like horses. They ride us to death to get where they need to go while also beating on us.

    • @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
      @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 года назад

      I love the song at the end!!! *Misty* is one of my favorite old songs and *your voice is spectacular. Thank you for being so beautifully random.* 🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰

  • @rehemamalaika7012
    @rehemamalaika7012 3 года назад +4

    i love the land acknowlegement, Aunty Khadija

  • @monitoler5721
    @monitoler5721 3 года назад +5

    I love this hair style on you so much! I know you’re gonna change it at some point but if you never do, it would still look amazing ❤️❤️

  • @AveryCreates
    @AveryCreates 3 года назад +3

    I've got nothing. I'm a white person who has only met 1 of the men you describe irl. But I'm commenting for channel engagement. Love you!

  • @Marie-ed9vj
    @Marie-ed9vj 3 года назад +2

    I hate to distract by not commenting on the content of the video but WOW Khadija is soooooo beautiful

  • @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
    @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 3 года назад +8

    As The Grand Archpriest of The Church of the Algorithm, I bless this video with a comment.

  • @patrickmullowney4220
    @patrickmullowney4220 2 года назад +1

    the "right" is often unified because they want to conserve some idea of status quo. the "left" is often arguing about what the future should be, so they often split into the factions. otherwise, i agree with your point. marginalized groups often lean into the prevailing narrative (be it patriarchal, imperialist, capitalist, etc.) instead of liberating themselves.

  • @caralynbell496
    @caralynbell496 3 года назад +1

    You have the most beautiful complexion I have ever seen, you are just glowing and I'm here for it.

  • @ashikjaman1940
    @ashikjaman1940 3 года назад +32

    I have no idea what this is and am both excited and dreading to find out

  • @BobToons25
    @BobToons25 3 года назад +1

    There is a quote and I can't find where it originated from as its become a term now - but it said 'The answer to capitalism is not Black Capitalism' and so you could extrapolate that to 'the answer to the patriarchy is not Black Patriarchy'.

  • @pedropaulo5600
    @pedropaulo5600 3 года назад +2

    This dircourse and the form it happens in almost all marginalized groups always remember me of a quote from a sociologist here from Brazil, his name is Paulo Freire and he was a genius in the field of education and sociology, the quote goes as follow: "When the education isn't for liberation, the dream of the oppressed is to be the oppressor"

  • @TrueImmortality
    @TrueImmortality 3 года назад +3

    I remember reading some internet comments once upon a time about how homosexuality is a European thing ie a White thing and only white women are lesbians. I was....so confused...

  • @sharkofjoy
    @sharkofjoy 3 года назад +1

    A crime against one of us is a crime against all of us.

  • @LittleMissLounge
    @LittleMissLounge 3 года назад +31

    When Khadija speaks about building something new instead of fighting for a piece of a shitty little pie, it reminds me so much of some of my fellow white feminists (not necessarily the capitalized type 😂😥) who are like "Girlboss this and that" and "Yea! Female drone pilots!" I blame a lot of that on the kindergarten definition of feminism that tends to be trotted out to seem non-threatening. That is: "Feminism means equality" instead of something like "Feminism means liberation from the patriarchy." Obviously, there are different nuances with what Khadija is discussing, but I can definitely see some parallels. It's like, we can imagine a better world than /that/, right? Edit: Her rendition of "Misty" is beautiful.

  • @cleverlilvixen
    @cleverlilvixen 3 года назад +2

    The video just started and I have to stop for a moment to address how fabulous you look in it

  • @mstaylor1073
    @mstaylor1073 3 года назад +2

    You summed it up beautifully these ppl need to do the spiritual work of finding out who they really are and what they want.

  • @dionnebatts3652
    @dionnebatts3652 3 года назад +3

    I’m so grateful for your channel and your platform. Your patient convey your thoughts well and have so much research in your videos. It’s really great to see. Channels like yours For Harriet Tee and As Told By Kenya are just so refreshing! Black women really just informing the masses on our experiences and giving it a voice. This generation and the generations to come are so lucky to have this form of media to reference in the future. Keep up the amazing work!
    Edited: I think this topic has a tie with domestic violence too for black men to assert dominance. It not only feeds there ego but it’s like all that they can’t be in the world due to the limitations of societal oppression they try to exert on their partners. It’s kind of to have some sort of dominance and authority in their lives. I’m not saying all instances of DV are like that but I’m sure this is rooted in that. Also, your point about violence to trans and queer people is also fitting for this topic. It’s all a dominance thing

  • @achronos178
    @achronos178 3 года назад +2

    You're very funny. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

  • @carltonbanks2351
    @carltonbanks2351 3 года назад +7

    "because we're at war right now" LMAOOO

  • @jigen1504
    @jigen1504 Год назад

    I’m so happy I watched this video to the end.
    It seems to me as u talked yourself self out of the argument. In which is the 1st step of becoming a Hotep 😂. So even tho the premise seemed rocky, I loved your line of thinking.
    And I do appreciate your understanding of the pathology of Blk male hood.

  • @ThanhMaiOFFICIAL
    @ThanhMaiOFFICIAL 3 года назад +7

    I knew you were going to talk about Skillshare lol 😎😄

  • @alinaj3301
    @alinaj3301 3 года назад +1

    your singing at the end was absolutely lovely. thank you. really settled and filled me on an unsettled day

  • @misslg4you
    @misslg4you 3 года назад +2

    I really appreciated this video and I like how you talked about the subjects. I'm a queer and trans black person and I can relate to a lot of what you were talking about. Also I like all your videos lol so I like the ones with a lot of research and also the ones with out too. Thank you for making this video💛

  • @nogo8304
    @nogo8304 3 года назад +6

    Hoteps movement is a step from being Gilead imo

  •  3 года назад +1

    Haven't even watched yet, but I'm so ready for this conversation!!!!

  • @theman9048
    @theman9048 3 года назад +1

    The community is never going to agree on everything. It's important for us to continue to have healthy debate over these issues. Since the community is being attacked we have to come together over issues were we find common ground. Real change requires different groups of people coming together to work for a common goal. While I keep hearing about these alternatives to the system. I don't see the vision that is being pushed outside of buzzwords. I feel like the best way to move is to continue to speak on issues that you feel like are not being addressed but come together to get real policy and change were you agree.
    Ps. I think the bigger issue is a lot of those people are just faking it for profit.

  • @BR4INR0T_
    @BR4INR0T_ 3 года назад +17

    begging nonblacks to not overstep their boundaries in these comments...

    • @whoknows9085
      @whoknows9085 3 года назад +3

      They are pushing it

    • @thepsychicperspective
      @thepsychicperspective 3 года назад

      Your victimhood card doesn't give you a pass to act like a tyrannical dictator.

    • @whoknows9085
      @whoknows9085 3 года назад +8

      @@thepsychicperspective
      ?

    • @blueisblue599
      @blueisblue599 3 года назад +3

      @@thepsychicperspective Setting boundaries is tyrannical?

  • @mrsharp2982
    @mrsharp2982 3 года назад +2

    I'm gay as hell. But I am in LOVE. I love how you talk and EVERYTHING you said. Lol I'm subscribing!

  • @lleajames4145
    @lleajames4145 3 года назад +24

    Guuuuuuuurl THIS is what I’m definitely waiting for. I don’t even know where to begin with this subject (I.e. my family…)😩 Can’t wait! 😊

  • @ingridtobar4469
    @ingridtobar4469 3 года назад +1

    I remember reading a book about the history of black women in America and it included how both the first wave of feminism and abolitionism both did not fully include them. Especially with intersectionalism of social issues becoming a more prevalent topic, it really feels like this should be more widely taught and discussed. Being a feminist doesn’t mean you aren’t racist or transphobic; being part of a racial minority does not mean you don’t perpetuate sexism or homophobia. I’ve been hard pressed to find people who genuinely think intersectionalism in all these modern day movements is a thing to pay attention to, and that in itself is just another issue added on top.

  • @edotheemost
    @edotheemost 3 года назад +4

    In my experience, WHEN heterosexual men step out for social justice, they become pretentious af.

  • @sams1982
    @sams1982 3 года назад +2

    AHH I LOVE THE SINGING! Jazz album when?

  • @JJBlitz626
    @JJBlitz626 3 года назад +1

    🎶Thanks for the great end theme song! 🎶

  • @sweetchocolatesecret
    @sweetchocolatesecret 3 года назад +22

    I feel really uncomfortable with how Black men claim to own Black women and lean towards degrading Black women who date outside of the Black community. Many RUclipsrs I used to watch often talked about how it's impossible to be pro-Black and love whom ever you please. As if sleeping or being romantic with someone who is not Black erases your own experience. When I tell people I have no racial preference romantically at times I feel like Black men online translate that to me not wanting them or me hating them. Should I care what they think? Because I don't like that they think I hate them but I should be free to do as I please! I'm conflicted.

    • @medealkemy
      @medealkemy 3 года назад +2

      Nah. Do what you wanna do. We are *not* property, that's the whole point of the Abolition.
      Never trust someone telling you that you're not Black enough for not doing this or that. That's bullshit. Especially when a fair (hehe) share of them prefer White women anyway 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @Extreamkarioke
    @Extreamkarioke 3 года назад +2

    Loved every minute of this video.

  • @LogicGated
    @LogicGated 3 года назад +2

    Lol language really is fluid and ever expanding.

  • @AquariusNation777
    @AquariusNation777 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for speaking on this Goddess. It was much needed

  • @thegoat7082
    @thegoat7082 3 года назад +3

    Who’s here after the DaBaby drama? I came back to this video because it seemed fitting for the situation. It’s sad to see these homophobic attitudes play out in real time.

  • @honestexistence
    @honestexistence 2 года назад

    Yknow... I don't know which parts of your videos I like more. The discourse, intelligent interesting thought provoking and revealing. Or your beautiful singing.

  • @austincde
    @austincde 3 года назад +2

    Every time a cousin reposts louis farrakan I gotta block 💀 huge red flag