Install solar panels at home - Roof work - Battery storage - GivEnergy all in one and gateway
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2024
- We take a deep dive on a full solar panel installation complete with whole home backup battery storage.
Including how to set an array on a roof, hook installation, tile grind out, leveling rails and much more!
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24 x Jinko all black panels
1 x solax inverter
1 x GivEnergy AIO and gateway
1 x Proteus consumer unit
3 x M2 rotary isolaters
2 x MCG DC isolators
Full test process with the TIS PV Check
Commissioning and handover included!
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Brilliant video of a top shelf install.
Great video. Some awesome info.
Quality video as always Mark 👌
I just love on grid micro inverters for
Grid connect stuff in a myenergi ecosphere! makes everything so safe and all Panels are stand alone.
Not so sure about that with AC on roof, equally the myenergi equipment is pretty pricey based on spec. We only offer the eddi in the range currently due to that.
Really good looking install. I appreciate the attention to detail on the mounting rails, some might have glossed over that aspect as it's "not electrical work" but it all needs to get done, if you don't know how to do it properly you end up fishing a panel out of the pond three doors down.
The filing rack with he install docs is a really nice touch and is going to help out a future spark or home-owner. I laminate anything going in a garage or outhouse as they tend to get damp, but I'm stealing the filing rack idea to replace my cup-hook and hollow rivets in the corner of the sheets method. 😀
Partly agree on the DC isolators, installers should both be capable of fitting an isolator safely, and anyone maintaining an inverter or panel array should know how to do so safely, with or without the external isolators.
Yeah lamination is great! Lots of pages in these handover packs lol.
I don’t disagree in terms of knowledge to work safely. Sadly that’s not as common place as it should be. I saw an inverter with a melted on MC4 last week. Dealing with that is tough without isolation in the fixed wiring. Well unless we wait for dark which is pretty easy this time of year lol.
@@electrician247 That's what apprentices and dieletric gloves are for 😉
Maybe we need 4 drones and a big sheet in the van for these occasions. 🤔
@@andyca15 haha very true!
Nice video Mark and Team PowerSonic. I like the idea of using the oval tube to pass the cables out and then sealing the end with FireMate or similar.
I totally agree with you on the DC isolators. They should be present next to the inverter. I think it is foolish and possibly dangerous for them to be omitted from the install because what an insurance company thinks. I raised my concern on last weeks eFixx news about this subject. I have also touched on this subject in the IET discussion forum.
Thanks Sergio, their are industry moves afoot to counter said guidance on DC isolators so watch this space on that one lol. About time as well!
I am not an Electrician but one of the stated reasons for DC Isolators is to allow for the replacement and maintenance of the Inverter. If the Integrated Inverter Isolator is being used instead I do not see how this can isolate the Inverter from the DC Supply. I also understand that some of the reasons for fires are due to the DC Isolator being under-rated which is an Installation issue and not a fault with the DC Isolator themselves. I know that any break in a circuit is a weak point but DC Isolators seem to be a necessary break in the circuit.
@@daveoram7249 DC isolators are essential part of the fixed wiring system
@@electrician247 I agree but there is advice that DC Isolators may not be needed where the Inverter has an integrated DC Isolator that meet the appropriate BS. This is due to most Incidents with Solar PV being caused by DC Isolators catching fire, although I have also heard this is largely down to under-rated Isolators being fitted.
Get lads a couple of bricklayer trowels to move the tiles, slip in and lift will be easier on the fingers.😊
They have them lol
Could a solax adapter box be used rather than the myenergy?
No. Solic or iboost could work but with the eddi the best myenergi product why use anything else mate.
Could we see a quick vid on a dc isolator install 😅
It’s on my twitter and instagram.
I think you can argue the DC isolator thing either way, if you've got them on the side of the house, exposed to elements, it's easy to imagine water getting into them and them turning into a hazard. I agree there's a fundamental problem with competence, but I've paid a fortune for appalling work in the past, so price is no sure fire way of getting anywhere - surely a consumer should be able look up an electricians official record, and trade bodies should do more inspection.
I don’t disagree regarding trade bodies but that’s not how it is. DC isolators outdoors require expert installation. I’ve got one at home and it’s dry as a bone. The equipment is not and never has been the problem. As discussed in the video. The fundamental issue is clear. The rest is nonsense to distract and divert away from fixing that.
As a competent DIY'r how much of the install could they realistically do themselves? Im asking necause i would assume for a SEG tariff and meter etc. MCS certification of the installation would be needed. Is this something contractors would ne happy to test / issue on an installation not directly installed by themselves.
That would not be allowed under the MCS system.
that's what I thought. thanks for the clarity. keep up the great content! @@electrician247
@@electrician247 MCS is a rubbish Certification system. It is all about paperwork and profit. Very little actually installation training. Probably why there are a lot of very poor Installations done by MCS certified companies. But obviously it needs to be installed or certified by a qualified Electrician who ideally has experience of PV Installations
In theory a DIYer could do it all themselves. Most of it is pretty simple stuff. Panels come with pre-installed connectors so it is a simple matter of connecting them together. The ends to the Inverter are a different matter and they need to be connected properly with good quality PV Connector Pliers and with correct wire lengths to prevent arcing. The AC side is simple enough if you are a competent DIYer. But you need to do your research, especially when buying the right Inverter for the Panels checking Open Circuit Voltages and the like. Connecting it to the Main Consumer Unit is simple enough too. However, you would probably not get a warranty on the Inverter and you would not be allowed to export anything to the Grid. So, realistically you need an Electrician with PV knowledge to install although MCS isn't needed if you use Octopus as your Supplier (although I have chased them up on this because the Octopus Outgoing Tariff states MCS Certification is required)
@@daveoram7249 the abuse of the MCS system is why we see poor installs from MCS registered companies. Those using correctly are generally spot on
Got told about a commercial weed and moss killer… apparently it works in a few minutes not hours or so… I’ll find out and tell you, might help clear moss easier in the future but might be too powerful!
Assassin grade moss killer, hit me up
Aidan! Sounds wicked
@@electrician247 😂 yeah basically!
Ok leave it with me I’ll find out
Superb vid Mark this one...💥💥 Many thx for the behind the scenes on the install
I don't understand why you need EPS to provide a local circuit in the garage, why can't you just stick another breaker in the small consumer unit? Even if you were pulling 20A, the load at the source consumer unit is never going to be more than -20A, as the inverter only generates, i.e. decreases that load.
Someone needs to look at bi directional and think again. The small consumer unit is powered from the EPS. Easier monitoring of PV generation, extra protection, perfect solution tbh. We did consider as you have suggested but decided that was a very amateur/poor option.
@@electrician247 I really appreciate your content here, but was also confused on this point - you acheived nice low volt drop on the connection back to the house so don't see how connecting PV into the garage CU as originally arranged would be a problem? Or is it because your PV feed now goes to the AIO gateway and not main CU?