There is a positive difference with the new one; an audience won’t be able to compare them, so what they’ll be left with is just the beauty of the presentation with the new ones
Well, I am a classical vocalist train for 20 years and still very active in the arts. I heard a huge difference. I have had the S1 Pro. I bought two S1 Pro pluses and there’s quite a bit of difference. The highs are so much clearer And the features you cannot beat us one pro plus is superior
That's the difference-a vocalist for 20 years and I've played drums for 20+ years. Vocals top 85db/drums 120dB maybe that's why I hear no difference:) Glad you are happy with the upgrade.
Couldn’t Agree Any Better! When Bill Did that video using the S1 -Pro along with the Fishman sub woofer that! Was the best compact system ever ! I use two S1-Pros And! my Fishman sub woofer ! and wouldn’t change for anything else !
Either you have good ears or very good ear buds! After paying drums for 20+ years I don't need to upgrade for better sound since I don't hear the difference.
Maybe 300 watts? Go by max dB not watts. S1Pro max 103dB, good for 50 people indoors according to Bose. My 1,000 watt QSC CP8 max is 124dB which is at least 4x louder than a S1Pro.
this was exactly my question. A great review overall, and the author is absolutely correct - side-by-side A/B is the only way to really tell if there's a difference. Having said that, me too I can hear clearly audible difference between the two speakers in both higher-frequency track (more pronounced), and in lower-frequency track (much less pronounced and still to me more of a difference in upper midrange/highs than the bass output per se). However, it might be the case that the Behringer mixer used in the tests has different cirquitry for the main Out and the alt (3/4) out. I am not insisting it has - I just suppose it might.
Thanks for the review. I gig with an S1Pro daily. I have to use an impedance-matching transformer to get enough volume from my microphone. I've tried different mics, with the same results, way too low of volume output, and with no phantom power on either, I'm considering going to the JBL Compact. But, I really like the Bose. Any advice?
Low output for mics on the S1 Pro is a common complaint. Most people's solution is using a small mixer like the Yamaha 06X boosts the gain, but in my opinion defeats the purpose of an all in one solution. Plus the mixer needs A/C power. I don't recommend the Compact for a number of reasons, mainly early clip light. EV Everse 8 is the best battery PA in the compact size. JBL Eon MK2 best full size battery. ruclips.net/video/fRoGRZHV1js/видео.html
Thanks. Using the Yamaha MG06X, with a 12 volt pack. But right, defeats the purpose. Need three inputs, which the s1 plus has, and more mic pre-amp, which most are saying it tonight it has been corrected by the plus.@@WWeiss-nv5vz
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I have purchased the S1Pro Plus, and it corrects the low output mic issue. Also, I run a Yamaha MG06X, on 12-volt power pack. No AC. Perfect setup. The S1Pro Plus works great. I've tried the Everse 8, and like the sound/coverage of the Bose better. The app works nice too. I also run a Mackie PRO FX10V3, also on 12 volts. Bigger than the Yamaha, but 10 inputs. Use it for outdoor church services, with four vocalists, and guitar and drum. With both of the Bose S1 Pro's. Works amazing. Also, on the Bose S1 Pro, a plug-in 1/4" to XLR line matching transformer corrects the low mic input. No AC/DC required.
The bass sounded the same to me, but the highs were clearer in the plus model. This is something that can be easily changed with a tweak of the treble knob on the pro
Did you have a chance to test Bluetooth range? The original S1PRO had very short Bluetooth range. I heard mixed reports that the plus has much better range?
I have to use an impedance-matching transformer to get enough volume from my microphone with the S1 Pro.. I've tried different mics, with the same results, way too low output. I wonder too if the plus has solved the issue.
Still no phantom power though. BTW, I can tell the differnce in sound - highs and lows both are more pleasent and with nicer clarity in the older model.
Bill, I’m wondering why you didn’t just use the main left and right outputs of the mixer and then use the channel pan to the left for one speaker and pan to the right for the other speaker? That way you wouldn’t have to worry about any differences in op amps between the control room outs and the main outs…’ Anyway, love your videos. Appreciate you… thanks for doing what you do.
Now you tell me! Great idea! I was thinking I would lose content playing in stereo and it wouldn't be an exact comparison, but you made me realize the keyboard is playing in mono anyway. Thanks again :)
100%, with headphones, I easily hear the sound difference in the highs with the older S1 Pro sounding thin compared to the S1 Pro+. Not sure how much is affected by the iPhone microphone but through headphones it’s very apparent. And I’m not an audiophile and I do not have a golden ear at all. Thanks so very much for this a-b comparison video!
That's my point, if you need headphones to tell the difference, then in a live situation the audience will NEVER hear the difference! Thank's for your feedback.@@romanfirmin2459
If you can handle the 50 lbs weight, the QSC KW122 I have is even better than the K8.2. It has RCA outs that can go to a phone. To me its not a portable PA so stays put in my drum studio.
need advice I have the original s1 pro and recently I bought s1 pro plus- but I cant pair them, i have the music bose and bose + apps but with no positive results , help
1 mono speaker for solo acoustic. A second speaker will give you only 3dB more volume. If you need more volume then you have the wrong speaker for your application. Of course a second speaker will give more coverage in some venues. DJ's use two speakers to play tracks that are recorded in stereo. Instruments like keyboards and electronic drums also have samples recorded in stereo.
One positive/one negative of new Plus model. On the positive, they changed the line out to XLR. XLR to XLR is a more secure connection and a much more common cable to be found vs, the 1/4" TRS to XLR I was using before. On the negative side, in bright sunlight it is VERY hard to see the LCD screen, with physical knobs of S1 Pro this is never an issue. Sometimes Old School is better!
Bill, great content. Curious what each speakers volume was at to get the 85db. For instance, was there more headroom left in the new pro+ or the original?
Glad you enjoyed! I have returned the new Plus model at this point and I don't remember where the dials were set. Headroom should be the same since 103dB max volume Spec hasn't changed.
Such a careful and considered approach. Thank you. I just bought the + today. I value the extra gizmos so I'll stay and get another. Anybody out there care to share how jazzed they are to be able to sing happy birthday in a restaurant after a 20 second set up? I just made my rent using this tiny Bose. Just like location location location, it's application application application for us. Thanks for such an enlightening review!.
I know little about Karaoke. Best sound for S1Pros on stands/speakers at ear level 10-15 feet apart. Volume gain on each speaker set at same level/usually 12:00 with DJ controller gain staged properly. Slight reverb is usually added for best vocal sound. Some people use the Bose Sub1 for Karaoke but not sure how necessary it is?? Ask your question on the S1 Facebook Group to get specific settings: facebook.com/groups/Boses1fanclub/
Thanks, on good quality headphones I can hear a clear difference for both the high ends and low ends, even if recorded with a phone. The new model sounds more defined and wider in the first loop and a bit more neutral on the low ends in the second loop. I found the difference much more pronounced in the first loop, maybe due to the phone being used as a recorder with the built in compressor etc. affecting the low ends differently (or maybe there's less difference in the low end than the high ends between the two models). To me the new version sounds better in this test.
You are lucky to have what they say in the Audiophile Community, "Golden Ears"! After decades of playing drums at 120+dB I would be the last to argue with you. For my home Hi-fi I bought a set of $500 speaker cables, I hear zero difference.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I am quite surprised, Bill! It's a pretty dramatic difference, and perhaps this track does not show it fully. Remember, specs are specs, which have nothing to do with tonality. Plenty of speakers have the same specs but sound totally different from one another. The new speaker sounds quite different from the previous model with all types of music. Perhaps, one track might not be noticed as much, but if you cycle through different types of music, it's very apparent and my wife who knows nothing about sound said she said it was a no-brainer on which one to keep. The sound is much more refined and articulate, especially on the low end. The highs and mids are less of a dramatic improvement, but there is still an upgrade there. One of the biggest complaints about the previous model was the low end's dramatic boost around 60-80 hertz. It could sound muddy and people even would notice bottoming out when pushed with dynamic music. The new speaker does not do this and is a huge improvement. I would not have considered using the S1 as a "home speaker" b/c of the tonality and low-end reproduction was not accurate enough, whereas the new speaker sounds much more like a Home theater or stereo speaker one would use for listening in their home. It's not that it goes lower, which it may, it's the way the bass sounds, so pleasing in comparison. It's more natural sounding without a boost in the upper bass. When I did all my A/B test, I found the old speaker to sound thin in comparison b/c I could hear the notes more defined, most noticeable below 110.
Hi,I am upgrading old to new version. Cos pro+ has tonematch library, additional 1/4 jack. I have L16 so i am wondering if pro+ can pair up with L16. If so, I might add sub2 for pro+ for stereo Bluetooth.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thanks, and Bose recommended that Bose sub line out to S1 pro can get optimal sound and now I learned that pro+ has sub eq function so we don't need to be worried about Bluetooth for optimal sound. Right? Have you kindly tried that function? Thanks for all bose-related information
@@WWeiss-nv5vz pity you returned. Actually I expect more good sound from pro+ cos L16 sounds so musical to me in comparison to pro. That is only one thing expected from Pro+. Now, I believe that i will get the same sound of the speaker with additional functions. Thanks for your good reviews.
Many people hear a difference and say the + is noticeably better. With my drummer ears I heard no difference and would only spend the extra money if I needed the great new features. In a live situation I doubt an audience could hear a difference.
I went yesterday to a store . with my S1Pro ,brought my guitar . Try S1Pro Plus !! . Not so happy with the new model . Same labels . The new one had distortion . I’ll stay for not with my S1 Pro .
Very nice and truthful test there is little difference which could be little more dynamic on highs and bass, I believe, I do have S1Pro over year, only one concern I am apl Gospel singer who prefers playing along with my keyboard, I felt for voacl signal on S1Pro is week 😮 I felt I am cheated on that part with BOSE, 😡 I have to raise to max level, how about on the new S1Pro + , can you please find out please Thank you
Ok say I now have both. If you were hoping the plus would be louder, deeper etc then I think you’d be disappointed. However, that doesn’t mean the plus is inferior. What makes the + a decent upgrade is the new features. The App is obviously a huge help. No continually going to the back of the speaker to adjust. The Bluetooth feature on channels 1 and 2 is a huge plus. Yes you have to buy the wireless vocal and instrumental extras to appreciate it but it’s huge. Also for the first time there is an EQ for the backing tracks through channel 3. The digital display is a also a big improvement. Bottom line, for me, is a great speaker got better not louder.
It sounds different in this test setup on my nearfield monitors. Maybe it's your room, does it amplifie the small difference? Did I miss, how you record it? First example, the Plus sounds "wider" to me. Second example, the plus sounds again "wider", the result to my ears is, that the the legacy mor sounds straight into the face (what I like more on base frequencies). Which then makes sense to me all in all for me. The Legay sounds general, more from the middle, less from the side. And the Plus has more "Side" 🙂
Viewer comment: In response to some folks posting that the Bose S1 Pro wasn't loud enough, especially in the vocals department. Since loud and soft are relative terms I decided to measure actual decibel levels. The app I used is called Decibel X. It's a must app for all musicians. In this video, my vocal (Shure SM 58) volume is set at 3/4 with 1/4 reverb, which I changed to 1/2 after viewing this video and my instrument volume is at 1/2. What I discovered was this battery operated, 15 lb. speaker is not as loud as my my 39 lb. JBL EON615 which puts out 127 db max. SPL or my 41 lb. JBL EON One line array which puts out 118 db max. SPL. NO, this unit puts out only 103 db peak (did I mention it only weighs 15 lbs.) What does it all mean you ask? SPL stands for Sound Pressure Level and it's the primary objective unit of measure for output (NOT Watts). Continued exposure to SPL above 90 dB can cause permanent hearing damage. Remember that dB levels drop the further away from the source... the goal is to have a level of 85 dB max where the listener is, thus the reason these units have a rating of over that, which gives you some head room. I also discovered that this unit is ideal for small rooms with 40-50 people or busking. It's size and weight make this unit very, very convenient especially for solo or duo musicians/singers.
Nice! How long have you been using it? Question can a feedback damage this speaker? I was connected to a laptop accidentally produced a strong loud feedback from mic, I wasn’t able to stop quickly maybe prolonged for about 3 seconds before the app limiter anti feedback got activated. I thought the speaker will explode 😂
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yeah tnx I learned my lesson.. after that I never plugged a mic without a volume controller nearby (mixer). Those little knobs behind speaker doesn’t work well for my needs except for set and forget instruments.
Reviewer with rental business: Been doing this for years with first S1pro, and those can switch from mic to line for more options and I find the physical knobs much easier and faster to adjust anything on the fly without having to scroll through menus (especially when I have clients that don’t want to learn those menus etc and just want it to “work” if that makes sense). If you don’t have a first generation, feel free to get it but there’s no need to “upgrade” to the new one because it’s the same amp etc so it’s not louder etc. And yes I have both and also snatched up a bunch more of the original ones from buddies that jumped on the train for new ones and mad I got so many pairs basically for the price they paid for one lol😂
Is there any way to adjust equalizer on the aux bluetooth output on the S1 Pro? To my surprise there aren't any knob controls and my backing tracks ar far too bassy. Otherwise the sound quality for clean guitar is excellent. On a busy street performance and at a gig I could hardly hear the backing track. Generally this unit thumps out a massive bass so I tend to turn it down.
I have 20% disability for Tinnitus and yet heard a distinct difference between both the high-end and the low-end samples. Since I do not own either speaker yet, the decision is easy, I'll get the S1 Pro+.
If there is a difference it is so slight you or your audience would never know the difference in a live situation. Only reason to go with the old model is price, $500. In my opinion the extra money is well spent for the new features of the Pro+.
Great comparison! I sold my two Bose S1 Pro speakers and bought two Bose S1 Pro+ speakers. You are right in that they sound very similar but the new models are feature rich and have great functions like channel mute and integrated wireless connectivity. I can even broadcast the Bluetooth stream plus both channel inputs from one speaker to the other wirelessly. I love the new setup because I can mix without touching the speaker and I don’t need electricity! Brilliant design!!!
Reviewer wrote: Just to second the accolades of the Everse. Once dialed in, nothing really compares. Has real bass as well that is as rich as you can get from an 8" speaker.
I use a tone match T4 4 channel mixer some time. They have a 8 channel version. I wish they had phantom power. I use condenser mics. I did buy a battery powered phantom power for single mic. Xvive is the brand. It's working great.
Any decent mixer takes the S1 Pro to the next level! But taking another piece of gear kind of defeats the whole idea of the incredible portability of a pick up and go 15 pound speaker plug and play speaker.
One is an analog control, the other digital so they might not look at exactly the same setting. Only using a dB meter proves they are at the exact same volume. Thanks for the idea though.
Thanks for the great comparison, I wonder if you recommend going from Boombox 3 wifi (~£330 for students) to Bose S1 pro (~£480) . I wanna use it mostly indoor some occasions outdoor. I was amazed by sound quality of yamaha Stage pass 200BTR. But that is so expensive. Which one do you suggest? thanks
I'm playing this through a pair of s1+ in L+R stereo mode. I can hear a big difference between the 2. Especially in the bass and midrange, there is not much difference in the treble. The s1 + is a much fuller sound overall
I would like to know if you can connect an external mixer left and right master output with bose s1 pro+ wirelessly through line level using the Bose wireless adapters.
Thank you. Super helpful. Bottom line, it seems to me only reason to upgrade would be if you need the extra features. And of course the new model is more expensive. Very glad I went with the original S1 Pro.
Viewer comment: For those who are considering the Bose S1 Plus, my only gripe, besides the 6” speaker limitation, is the control readouts are too small without my glasses on. You have to get all the way down to the floor to read the dang thing. The last version with the physical knobs was easier for me. 🙂
I can't hear any difference Anyway, if there were perceptible differences, surely Bose would be using it as a marketing tool I've just bought a 2nd original model!
Unless you want the wireless stuff the sound is so minimal I doubt anyone will notice. Also I'm sure most carry cables as backups. Why would Bose do away with the blue power light? I rely on it and would be more important on wireless gear as a reminder to turn it off. This is just my opinion of course. I only use the pro as a monitor with my F1's so it depends on what you are using it for. I can see where it would be handy for street musicians or short gigs.
Easy to hear difference between both high and low loops(with headphones), BUT We don't know what those loops sound like to begin with.. so it's a challenge to really judge which speaker sounds better. I appreciate the Db level matching, thank U for going to the trouble, but if U could do the same thing with some actual songs.. it would be MUCH easier to figure out what is going on. Perhaps a recording of someone playing a Beethovan Sonata (The Appasionata or Waldstein) on an Acoustic piano.. (piano's have big spectrum) AND no copyright issues with classical music..
Based from this video, the pro plus had slight difference in terms of digital processing…I heard it differently from my end. But maybe this was also the reason why I heard different bass and high frequency simultaneuosly and it is probabaly due to signal processing…I think…
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I currently have a S1 Pro+ demoing it. As an instrumental musician, it yields a very accurate amplified sound and I’ll likely keep it. After viewing your reviews and others, it’s my thought the EV is basically a battery powered and feature enhanced form of a traditional PA with its narrower dispersion and more power. It’s suited for someone needing it for a variety of situations from solo musician to light DJ work. The S1 with its wider dispersion is more like a small array simpler caters more to the live performance acoustic musician.
Nice but the bass woofers in either one are not gonna blow anything away. They both are very good but the only things that make the new one supposedly “drastically different” isn’t worth me getting rid of my legacies. I did A/B them and ended up even getting another 2 sets of legacies for dirt cheap from a couple of new fan boys that automatically jump on something new and sold me their sets just to buy 1 new one 😂
I have both also I'm pretty sure the gain on the mic pre amps on the Pro have been significantly upped My e965 ( wireless dongle with phantom power and the +10db mic attenuator) is unusable with Pro with the - 10db off Its only usable with the Pro with the - 10db on Whereas with the mk1 it would only give enough gain with the - 10db attenuator off
From all the speakers you own and have heard what do you in your opinion think is the best sounding pa speaker excluding arrays for playing music from a phone without a mixer ?
I think I'm going to go with k8.2 I have couple of Mackie goes or go,s ? Lol and couple low end JBL 12 inch Irx but I'm getting urge to own more of a pro grade speaker I have Roland electronic drum set and a Yamaha acoustic set speakers are just for music in backyard or banging around in my drum room
The only huge difference is the price! but don't worry there will be a more improved model next year and this one will be last years news.lol. I for one don't need all the extra gizmo's especially having to use your phone. Lets see while making adjustment a text,phone call or app alert pops up...hmm shucks now where was I before that interruption?? I guess you could turn all those notifications off but who would go through the trouble of doing that every time you want to use those features. That's what mixers are for... I guess I'm just old school!
Thanks for great effort. the mids and highs are different... maybe a cheap capacitor in the EQ circuit changed what you hear in the Plus. Same drivers and enclosure, just tweaked amp board to price Plus it. Original pro is more than good enough.
I really cannot understand how some say they hear no difference in these tests. To my ears there was a massive difference, not sounding the same at all. Which one is best? Well that is a matter of taste i guess.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yeah no one in their right mind would do this because BOSE S1 PRO is a one of a kind speaker, you won't find second hand under $500. I have had old one for 5 years works as day 1 still lasts 10 hours of charge, excellent for acoustics, instruments and music. I use mine as a car speaker it still pumps!
One important factor, you would think both speakers would pair but they don't. That was a poor marketing stunt. I will never buy another Bose product unless this changes. I mean i understand not being able to pair with a different brand but it's literally the same speaker! Why would Bose do that? I'm mad as I had an event and went with the Pro Plus not even second guessing whether or not they would pair. I bought it as it was the only one that was overnight delivery and then I get hit with a wall. Thanks Bose.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz It's a simple technology. 10 years ago, we have Bluetooth headphones. No problem there. This is a marketing stunt and only a marketing stunt. Has nothing to do with the lack of technology.
Hi I’m from Bose. Sorry about your inconvenience. We would be glad to send you a free Pro so you can pair with your new speaker. Just kidding. Cute story though.
Negatives from real world testing: The LCD screen on the Plus model is almost impossible to see in bright sunlight! In a live gig outdoors, the old school dials of the S1Pro are far superior! Also on the Plus model it will not stay back in the tilt back position on carpet - only on hard floors. S1 Pro doesn't have this issue.
I thought the + had slightly more presence to it.
Many agree with you. The question is, could an audience in a live situation hear the difference?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Good question and point.
There is a positive difference with the new one; an audience won’t be able to compare them, so what they’ll be left with is just the beauty of the presentation with the new ones
Well, I am a classical vocalist train for 20 years and still very active in the arts. I heard a huge difference. I have had the S1 Pro. I bought two S1 Pro pluses and there’s quite a bit of difference. The highs are so much clearer And the features you cannot beat us one pro plus is superior
That's the difference-a vocalist for 20 years and I've played drums for 20+ years. Vocals top 85db/drums 120dB maybe that's why I hear no difference:) Glad you are happy with the upgrade.
Agreed, there’s a positive difference
I am happy to know that my 2 s1pro will be with me much longer.excellent comparison thanks
Thanks for your feedback. I agree, I'm happy with my S1Pros!
Couldn’t Agree Any Better! When Bill Did that video using the S1 -Pro along with the Fishman sub woofer that! Was the best compact system ever ! I use two S1-Pros And! my Fishman sub woofer ! and wouldn’t change for anything else !
Listening with Bose earbuds there is a big difference in the highs, the + is crisper, also the lows sound fuller with the +
Either you have good ears or very good ear buds! After paying drums for 20+ years I don't need to upgrade for better sound since I don't hear the difference.
Is this speaker that has a battery and you can plug directly into it because it has 2 channels?
Yes, this speaker is battery powered and has a 2 channel mixer.
I have heard that the new speaker is bad with microphones and that the volume has to be at the very highest?
Same issue with original 😢
I have asked this question. And been told only that yes, the mic pre-amp on the plus is considerably better? That isn't correct?
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Do you know the watt for this S1pro? I couldn't find it on the spec sheet. Do you think this is close to 500W or even 1000W?
Maybe 300 watts? Go by max dB not watts. S1Pro max 103dB, good for 50 people indoors according to Bose. My 1,000 watt QSC CP8 max is 124dB which is at least 4x louder than a S1Pro.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I see, appreciate your response. This video was super helpful!
Thank you! Very enlightening.
Would the Behringer mixer have different audio qualities for the two types of output used?
this was exactly my question.
A great review overall, and the author is absolutely correct - side-by-side A/B is the only way to really tell if there's a difference.
Having said that, me too I can hear clearly audible difference between the two speakers in both higher-frequency track (more pronounced), and in lower-frequency track (much less pronounced and still to me more of a difference in upper midrange/highs than the bass output per se).
However, it might be the case that the Behringer mixer used in the tests has different cirquitry for the main Out and the alt (3/4) out. I am not insisting it has - I just suppose it might.
Good point, maybe!
What stand are you using?
Just something I got at Guitar Center. I don't think they make them anymore. Plenty of choices on Amazon.
Can you connect these 2 together?
No, the old speaker doesn't have the App.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz You are not the only one said the old S1 doesn’t have an App here. Why? Isn’t the “Bose connect” app made for the old S1?
Having one old S1 pro, I wanna add one speaker. Would you recommend to buy the same old S1 or the new S1+? Thank you
Yep the same one if you want ok pair them
Sound wise very similar. I would only buy the Plus if you need the new features. keep in mind they will not pair through the App.
Does the Bose T4s/T8s give you control of 4/8 channels on app? If not, that’s a shame. It still bothers me their “all in one pa” only has 3 channels 😞
Not sure, as soon as I saw the $700 price tag on their cheapest mixer I stopped reading the specs. Agree, 3 channels on my $3,300 Pro32 sucks!
Thanks for the review. I gig with an S1Pro daily. I have to use an impedance-matching transformer to get enough volume from my microphone. I've tried different mics, with the same results, way too low of volume output, and with no phantom power on either, I'm considering going to the JBL Compact. But, I really like the Bose. Any advice?
Low output for mics on the S1 Pro is a common complaint. Most people's solution is using a small mixer like the Yamaha 06X boosts the gain, but in my opinion defeats the purpose of an all in one solution. Plus the mixer needs A/C power.
I don't recommend the Compact for a number of reasons, mainly early clip light. EV Everse 8 is the best battery PA in the compact size. JBL Eon MK2 best full size battery. ruclips.net/video/fRoGRZHV1js/видео.html
Thanks. Using the Yamaha MG06X, with a 12 volt pack. But right, defeats the purpose. Need three inputs, which the s1 plus has, and more mic pre-amp, which most are saying it tonight it has been corrected by the plus.@@WWeiss-nv5vz
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I have purchased the S1Pro Plus, and it corrects the low output mic issue. Also, I run a Yamaha MG06X, on 12-volt power pack. No AC. Perfect setup. The S1Pro Plus works great. I've tried the Everse 8, and like the sound/coverage of the Bose better. The app works nice too. I also run a Mackie PRO FX10V3, also on 12 volts. Bigger than the Yamaha, but 10 inputs. Use it for outdoor church services, with four vocalists, and guitar and drum. With both of the Bose S1 Pro's. Works amazing.
Also, on the Bose S1 Pro, a plug-in 1/4" to XLR line matching transformer corrects the low mic input. No AC/DC required.
The bass sounded the same to me, but the highs were clearer in the plus model. This is something that can be easily changed with a tweak of the treble knob on the pro
I agree! Unless you are A/B ing side by side the difference is very slight. Definitely nothing an audience in a live gig could hear!
Keep up the great vids Bill
Thanks!
The new one ( Bose S1 Pro+ ) sounds better to me. It seems to have more clarity and more presence.
Slight difference that would be impossible to tell in a live situation unless A/B ed side by side.
Does the battery is the same? Thanks
Battery is different. Some people have reported longer run time with new unit??
The bass difference was subtle compared to the treble difference. I heard a drastic difference between the two in your treble test.
You are the first person that has heard a drastic difference! You are lucky to have such good hearing!
I also heard that the + was fuller with the highs. Almost 3D like❤
If there is a difference which my ears don't hear, its hardly radical like one is 3D like. No way!@@jlepre752
@@WWeiss-nv5vz it was noticeable. Almost sounded like a chorus effect
Maybe reverb was engaged??? Every acoustic listening space is different.@@jlepre752
White Noise or sweep Test for frequenzy respomse .
Did you have a chance to test Bluetooth range? The original S1PRO had very short Bluetooth range. I heard mixed reports that the plus has much better range?
I think the original used Bluetooth 4.2 while the Plus used Bluetooth 5.0
No, I didn't check Bluetooth range, and it has been returned at this point.
It would be good a test of the mic gain between the two units
I have to use an impedance-matching transformer to get enough volume from my microphone with the S1 Pro.. I've tried different mics, with the same results, way too low output. I wonder too if the plus has solved the issue.
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It has
Great. Thank you!
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Still no phantom power though.
BTW, I can tell the differnce in sound - highs and lows both are more pleasent and with nicer clarity in the older model.
You have good ears! You're lucky. EV Everse 8 has phantom power.
I can hear there is a different in mid bass, around 250-350hz, My guess is the plus has flatter response, while the old model has a dip there.
I wish I had ears that could distinguish small differences in frequencies! Many years of drumming at high dB's have taken their toll.
interesting.. your ears are much appreciated. I have only heard the old S1 and I love it but.. not for mids..
@@greendrinkguy1882 The Bose House Sound- you either love it or hate it. Bose is know for their mids, highs are recessed.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz What I notice is lows and highs are accentuated and mids are recessed.
How many watts is the s1 pro plus would you know?
Same as previous, 150 watts.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I think I see a previous video that you said the Mackie thump go was the better back is that accurate?
Thump Go is louder.
Bill, I’m wondering why you didn’t just use the main left and right outputs of the mixer and then use the channel pan to the left for one speaker and pan to the right for the other speaker? That way you wouldn’t have to worry about any differences in op amps between the control room outs and the main outs…’
Anyway, love your videos. Appreciate you… thanks for doing what you do.
Now you tell me! Great idea! I was thinking I would lose content playing in stereo and it wouldn't be an exact comparison, but you made me realize the keyboard is playing in mono anyway. Thanks again :)
just set the ipad or whatever to play on mono @@WWeiss-nv5vz
The newer speaker sounds richer on the highs, but the old speaker is better on the low, a bit clearer, IMHO.
You are lucky you have such sharp hearing!
Maybe the older one's speaker is broken in more, letting the lows shine more.
Good point! Never thought of that.@@timbrundage3745
100%, with headphones, I easily hear the sound difference in the highs with the older S1 Pro sounding thin compared to the S1 Pro+. Not sure how much is affected by the iPhone microphone but through headphones it’s very apparent. And I’m not an audiophile and I do not have a golden ear at all. Thanks so very much for this a-b comparison video!
That's my point, if you need headphones to tell the difference, then in a live situation the audience will NEVER hear the difference! Thank's for your feedback.@@romanfirmin2459
To my previous question I should have added Bluetooth or 8th inch connection obviously because of no mixer
If you can handle the 50 lbs weight, the QSC KW122 I have is even better than the K8.2. It has RCA outs that can go to a phone. To me its not a portable PA so stays put in my drum studio.
Hi, there is a little bit of difference on the high end, but not not on the lows! Only my opinion! Thanks!
Shows how everybody hears differently. No right answer when it comes to sound.
need advice I have the original s1 pro and recently I bought s1 pro plus- but I cant pair them, i have the music bose and bose + apps but with no positive results , help
They will not pair. The original doesn't have the ability to work on the same App. Sorry;(
Do you think it’s better to buy the old one instead of the plus if wanna add another speaker to the old one I already have?
The new one is better no doubt but por pairing buy 2 of the same
@@eugenioanillos6622 bought the same one today...
Do I need 1 or 2 of the plus model? I am a solo acoustic performer.
1 mono speaker for solo acoustic. A second speaker will give you only 3dB more volume. If you need more volume then you have the wrong speaker for your application. Of course a second speaker will give more coverage in some venues. DJ's use two speakers to play tracks that are recorded in stereo. Instruments like keyboards and electronic drums also have samples recorded in stereo.
Nice comparison Bill. I'm thinking to have either one of the 2 for my busking back up. I have Bose cube street 2 and i need more punch..
Thanks
Go for it!
One positive/one negative of new Plus model. On the positive, they changed the line out to XLR. XLR to XLR is a more secure connection and a much more common cable to be found vs, the 1/4" TRS to XLR I was using before. On the negative side, in bright sunlight it is VERY hard to see the LCD screen, with physical knobs of S1 Pro this is never an issue. Sometimes Old School is better!
Video coming soon: S1 Pro Plus paired with Bose Sub1 - Amazing Full range live sound! Highest performing Micro System I can recommend.
Bill, great content. Curious what each speakers volume was at to get the 85db. For instance, was there more headroom left in the new pro+ or the original?
Glad you enjoyed! I have returned the new Plus model at this point and I don't remember where the dials were set. Headroom should be the same since 103dB max volume Spec hasn't changed.
Such a careful and considered approach. Thank you. I just bought the + today. I value the extra gizmos so I'll stay and get another. Anybody out there care to share how jazzed they are to be able to sing happy birthday in a restaurant after a 20 second set up? I just made my rent using this tiny Bose. Just like location location location, it's application application application for us. Thanks for such an enlightening review!.
Thanks for your positive feedback. You made a great investment!
Hi i bought 2 Bose s1 pro to run a karaoke , I'm a learner and how can i set the sound good for my new Job please ?
I know little about Karaoke. Best sound for S1Pros on stands/speakers at ear level 10-15 feet apart. Volume gain on each speaker set at same level/usually 12:00 with DJ controller gain staged properly. Slight reverb is usually added for best vocal sound. Some people use the Bose Sub1 for Karaoke but not sure how necessary it is?? Ask your question on the S1 Facebook Group to get specific settings: facebook.com/groups/Boses1fanclub/
Thanks, on good quality headphones I can hear a clear difference for both the high ends and low ends, even if recorded with a phone. The new model sounds more defined and wider in the first loop and a bit more neutral on the low ends in the second loop. I found the difference much more pronounced in the first loop, maybe due to the phone being used as a recorder with the built in compressor etc. affecting the low ends differently (or maybe there's less difference in the low end than the high ends between the two models). To me the new version sounds better in this test.
You are lucky to have what they say in the Audiophile Community, "Golden Ears"! After decades of playing drums at 120+dB I would be the last to argue with you. For my home Hi-fi I bought a set of $500 speaker cables, I hear zero difference.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I am quite surprised, Bill! It's a pretty dramatic difference, and perhaps this track does not show it fully. Remember, specs are specs, which have nothing to do with tonality. Plenty of speakers have the same specs but sound totally different from one another. The new speaker sounds quite different from the previous model with all types of music. Perhaps, one track might not be noticed as much, but if you cycle through different types of music, it's very apparent and my wife who knows nothing about sound said she said it was a no-brainer on which one to keep. The sound is much more refined and articulate, especially on the low end. The highs and mids are less of a dramatic improvement, but there is still an upgrade there. One of the biggest complaints about the previous model was the low end's dramatic boost around 60-80 hertz. It could sound muddy and people even would notice bottoming out when pushed with dynamic music. The new speaker does not do this and is a huge improvement. I would not have considered using the S1 as a "home speaker" b/c of the tonality and low-end reproduction was not accurate enough, whereas the new speaker sounds much more like a Home theater or stereo speaker one would use for listening in their home. It's not that it goes lower, which it may, it's the way the bass sounds, so pleasing in comparison. It's more natural sounding without a boost in the upper bass. When I did all my A/B test, I found the old speaker to sound thin in comparison b/c I could hear the notes more defined, most noticeable below 110.
Definitely there is a difference at the high end. The pro plus sounds cleaner and the original sounds heavier and more bass end produced.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I also don't believe in this type of $500 cable which gives a better signal except perhaps if it is extremely long..
@@jezamania You are lucky to have such good hearing! I heard zero difference in the high end.
It’s disappointing that they didn’t improve the output on the mic pre amps. I will not be upgrading
People say it depends on what mic you use??
Please pair s1pro & s1pro plus
We have 1 pc s1pro, next add s1pro plus please sagest me
Old & new
S1 pro pairing
Sorry, already returned Plus model.
Hi,I am upgrading old to new version. Cos pro+ has tonematch library, additional 1/4 jack. I have L16 so i am wondering if pro+ can pair up with L16. If so, I might add sub2 for pro+ for stereo Bluetooth.
I believe you can pair the two through the new App.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thanks, and Bose recommended that Bose sub line out to S1 pro can get optimal sound and now I learned that pro+ has sub eq function so we don't need to be worried about Bluetooth for optimal sound. Right? Have you kindly tried that function? Thanks for all bose-related information
@@KyawKyawLinn-r5e No, I didn't try that. That will be an important upgrade! Unfortunately I won't be able to test that, I returned the S1 Pro Plus.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz pity you returned. Actually I expect more good sound from pro+ cos L16 sounds so musical to me in comparison to pro. That is only one thing expected from Pro+. Now, I believe that i will get the same sound of the speaker with additional functions. Thanks for your good reviews.
@@KyawKyawLinn-r5e Appreciate your feedback!
What do you think is better in sound??
Many people hear a difference and say the + is noticeably better. With my drummer ears I heard no difference and would only spend the extra money if I needed the great new features. In a live situation I doubt an audience could hear a difference.
Difference was very clear.
Thank you!!
Good point to consider.
new one any better than old one?
Yes, if you need the new features, no if you are expecting improved sound.
I went yesterday to a store . with my S1Pro ,brought my guitar . Try S1Pro Plus !! . Not so happy with the new model . Same labels . The new one had distortion . I’ll stay for not with my S1 Pro .
No reason to upgrade unless you need the extra features. Sound is almost identical.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz absolutely. Thx
Very nice and truthful test there is little difference which could be little more dynamic on highs and bass, I believe, I do have S1Pro over year, only one concern I am apl Gospel singer who prefers playing along with my keyboard, I felt for voacl signal on S1Pro is week 😮 I felt I am cheated on that part with BOSE, 😡 I have to raise to max level, how about on the new S1Pro + , can you please find out please Thank you
Ok say I now have both. If you were hoping the plus would be louder, deeper etc then I think you’d be disappointed. However, that doesn’t mean the plus is inferior. What makes the + a decent upgrade is the new features. The App is obviously a huge help. No continually going to the back of the speaker to adjust. The Bluetooth feature on channels 1 and 2 is a huge plus. Yes you have to buy the wireless vocal and instrumental extras to appreciate it but it’s huge. Also for the first time there is an EQ for the backing tracks through channel 3. The digital display is a also a big improvement. Bottom line, for me, is a great speaker got better not louder.
Agree! Bose has made significant upgrades. If I were a new buyer I would feel very lucky getting all those new features for the same price!
the older unit is muddy
Bose had 5 years since the original unit. Improved clarity/volume/features, at the same price of the original is a great deal!
Unfortunately again no phantom power with this new + model….
Even new $350 Alto Busker has Phantom Power!
It sounds different in this test setup on my nearfield monitors. Maybe it's your room, does it amplifie the small difference? Did I miss, how you record it? First example, the Plus sounds "wider" to me. Second example, the plus sounds again "wider", the result to my ears is, that the the legacy mor sounds straight into the face (what I like more on base frequencies). Which then makes sense to me all in all for me. The Legay sounds general, more from the middle, less from the side. And the Plus has more "Side" 🙂
You are correct, the room makes a huge difference!
might upgrade if they make an 8" s1 pro😊
I'm with you! Waiting for the S2 Pro 8"/more powerful amp/mid control/more than one reverb choice. Actually that sounds like the Everse8 :)
Viewer comment: In response to some folks posting that the Bose S1 Pro wasn't loud enough, especially in the vocals department. Since loud and soft are relative terms I decided to measure actual decibel levels. The app I used is called Decibel X. It's a must app for all musicians. In this video, my vocal (Shure SM 58) volume is set at 3/4 with 1/4 reverb, which I changed to 1/2 after viewing this video and my instrument volume is at 1/2. What I discovered was this battery operated, 15 lb. speaker is not as loud as my my 39 lb. JBL EON615 which puts out 127 db max. SPL or my 41 lb. JBL EON One line array which puts out 118 db max. SPL. NO, this unit puts out only 103 db peak (did I mention it only weighs 15 lbs.) What does it all mean you ask? SPL stands for Sound Pressure Level and it's the primary objective unit of measure for output (NOT Watts). Continued exposure to SPL above 90 dB can cause permanent hearing damage. Remember that dB levels drop the further away from the source... the goal is to have a level of 85 dB max where the listener is, thus the reason these units have a rating of over that, which gives you some head room. I also discovered that this unit is ideal for small rooms with 40-50 people or busking. It's size and weight make this unit very, very convenient especially for solo or duo musicians/singers.
can you daisy chain S1 Pro with a S1 Pro plus using 1/4 TRS Line out to the Pro Plus Line Input?
Yes, no problem. Use a TRS to TRS 1/4" cable. Using a TS cable will reduce gain by 3dB.
Can you pair the old to s1 pro plus in the app.
I don't believe so.
Its.posible to pair both models?
@@victorastovilca9087 I don't think so. The new model is all digital on a different App.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz do You think it's better than Bose s1 pro?
yes the new one s1 pro plus is defenitly better @@victorastovilca9087
Heard the difference,gonna get the pro plus
Good purchase decision!
Nice! How long have you been using it? Question can a feedback damage this speaker? I was connected to a laptop accidentally produced a strong loud feedback from mic, I wasn’t able to stop quickly maybe prolonged for about 3 seconds before the app limiter anti feedback got activated. I thought the speaker will explode 😂
Happened to me - scary! Tech support will tell you, if you don't hear any audible distortion, no damage was done-just don't do it again!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yeah tnx I learned my lesson.. after that I never plugged a mic without a volume controller nearby (mixer). Those little knobs behind speaker doesn’t work well for my needs except for set and forget instruments.
Hi there, could you answer me a question about the pro + please?
What's your question?
Reviewer with rental business: Been doing this for years with first S1pro, and those can switch from mic to line for more options and I find the physical knobs much easier and faster to adjust anything on the fly without having to scroll through menus (especially when I have clients that don’t want to learn those menus etc and just want it to “work” if that makes sense). If you don’t have a first generation, feel free to get it but there’s no need to “upgrade” to the new one because it’s the same amp etc so it’s not louder etc. And yes I have both and also snatched up a bunch more of the original ones from buddies that jumped on the train for new ones and mad I got so many pairs basically for the price they paid for one lol😂
Can the old and new one be paired in Bose connect party mode?
Thanks, hope you review Montarbo L206 and compare to Bose S1 pro
I don't have the L206 and no plan to get it. Looks like a louder speaker 114dB than Bose 106dB. Better high end up to 20 Hz, but no internal battery.
There was a notable difference btwn the two, especially with the treble.
You have sharp ears or maybe very good headphones?
Is there any way to adjust equalizer on the aux bluetooth output on the S1 Pro? To my surprise there aren't any knob controls and my backing tracks ar far too bassy. Otherwise the sound quality for clean guitar is excellent. On a busy street performance and at a gig I could hardly hear the backing track. Generally this unit thumps out a massive bass so I tend to turn it down.
No, on the Aux channel there is no EQ on the S1Pro. On the S1Pro Plus there is now EQ on the Aux channel!
How many speakers do each Bose have and how many watts do each Bose have in between?
I don't pay attention to watts, 103db is its max volume. Not sure how many speakers, check the Bose website.
I have 20% disability for Tinnitus and yet heard a distinct difference between both the high-end and the low-end samples. Since I do not own either speaker yet, the decision is easy, I'll get the S1 Pro+.
If there is a difference it is so slight you or your audience would never know the difference in a live situation. Only reason to go with the old model is price, $500. In my opinion the extra money is well spent for the new features of the Pro+.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I hope so. The Pro+ is supposed to arrive in two days.
Great comparison! I sold my two Bose S1 Pro speakers and bought two Bose S1 Pro+ speakers. You are right in that they sound very similar but the new models are feature rich and have great functions like channel mute and integrated wireless connectivity.
I can even broadcast the Bluetooth stream plus both channel inputs from one speaker to the other wirelessly.
I love the new setup because I can mix without touching the speaker and I don’t need electricity! Brilliant design!!!
Bose has definitely stepped up their game! Personally I'm waiting for a Pro8 Plus with internal battery!
Melhorou o grave ?
No, same amp/woofer😢
Reviewer wrote: Just to second the accolades of the Everse. Once dialed in, nothing really compares. Has real bass as well that is as rich as you can get from an 8" speaker.
Key word is dialed in. Many people don't want to spend the time or have the ability. Plug and Play = Bose
I like the s1 pro plus because of the wireless mic setup. Making any mic wireless is awesome.
Agree, great tech!
I am so grateful for this.
Glad I could help!
I use a tone match T4 4 channel mixer some time. They have a 8 channel version. I wish they had phantom power. I use condenser mics. I did buy a battery powered phantom power for single mic. Xvive is the brand. It's working great.
Any decent mixer takes the S1 Pro to the next level! But taking another piece of gear kind of defeats the whole idea of the incredible portability of a pick up and go 15 pound speaker plug and play speaker.
True!
show the back of the speakers so that your viewers can see that the gain and volume were the same in both speakers.
One is an analog control, the other digital so they might not look at exactly the same setting. Only using a dB meter proves they are at the exact same volume. Thanks for the idea though.
Thanks for the great comparison, I wonder if you recommend going from Boombox 3 wifi (~£330 for students) to Bose S1 pro (~£480) . I wanna use it mostly indoor some occasions outdoor. I was amazed by sound quality of yamaha Stage pass 200BTR. But that is so expensive. Which one do you suggest? thanks
S1Pro hands down and in the future get a small subwoofer for full range sound. You will be amazed!
I'm playing this through a pair of s1+ in L+R stereo mode. I can hear a big difference between the 2. Especially in the bass and midrange, there is not much difference in the treble. The s1 + is a much fuller sound overall
After further testing, I now agree with you!
The new sounds a little muffled, also th old has a little more harmonies presence.
Very hard to tell from a RUclips video when the sound is so close. Thanks for your feedback!
I would like to know if you can connect an external mixer left and right master output with bose s1 pro+ wirelessly through line level using the Bose wireless adapters.
Not sure? I returned the S1Pro Plus.
Thank you. Super helpful.
Bottom line, it seems to me only reason to upgrade would be if you need the extra features.
And of course the new model is more expensive. Very glad I went with the original S1 Pro.
You took the words out of my mouth!
Viewer comment: For those who are considering the Bose S1 Plus, my only gripe, besides the 6” speaker limitation, is the control readouts are too small without my glasses on. You have to get all the way down to the floor to read the dang thing. The last version with the physical knobs was easier for me. 🙂
Pro÷ is more clearer with highends
Thanks for your feedback.
I can't hear any difference
Anyway, if there were perceptible differences, surely Bose would be using it as a marketing tool
I've just bought a 2nd original model!
Good point on marketing!
Unless you want the wireless stuff the sound is so minimal I doubt anyone will notice. Also I'm sure most carry cables as backups. Why would Bose do away with the blue power light? I rely on it and would be more important on wireless gear as a reminder to turn it off. This is just my opinion of course. I only use the pro as a monitor with my F1's so it depends on what you are using it for. I can see where it would be handy for street musicians or short gigs.
Agree! I like a front power indicator.
Thanks!! 👍♥️🇺🇸
Thank you too!
great content as always Bill, one thing to note is that they dont sync up together, new S1+ is on different app than the original S1..
Thanks for pointing that out and thanks for your positive feedback!
Most important question: is it louder?
Share the the decibel max of each. Original S1 Pro sits at 103dB…
No, same amp/same woofer/same cabinet volume - volume remains the same 103dB.
Easy to hear difference between both high and low loops(with headphones), BUT We don't know what those loops sound like to begin with.. so it's a challenge to really judge which speaker sounds better. I appreciate the Db level matching, thank U for going to the trouble, but if U could do the same thing with some actual songs.. it would be MUCH easier to figure out what is going on. Perhaps a recording of someone playing a Beethovan Sonata (The Appasionata or Waldstein) on an Acoustic piano.. (piano's have big spectrum) AND no copyright issues with classical music..
Thanks, I realize now I should have compared with actual songs, too late now S1Pro returned :(
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Hindsight is always 20/20 :)
@@greendrinkguy1882 True
Based from this video, the pro plus had slight difference in terms of digital processing…I heard it differently from my end. But maybe this was also the reason why I heard different bass and high frequency simultaneuosly and it is probabaly due to signal processing…I think…
Your lucky you have such good ears! I hear little difference. Only by A/B ing side by side would anyone hear a difference.
As a new consumer, not owning these or the EV, The Pro+ is very appealing at it’s price point..
Between Everse 8 or Bose Pro+ can't go wrong with either!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I currently have a S1 Pro+ demoing it. As an instrumental musician, it yields a very accurate amplified sound and I’ll likely keep it. After viewing your reviews and others, it’s my thought the EV is basically a battery powered and feature enhanced form of a traditional PA with its narrower dispersion and more power. It’s suited for someone needing it for a variety of situations from solo musician to light DJ work. The S1 with its wider dispersion is more like a small array simpler caters more to the live performance acoustic musician.
Agree with all you said! Both great choices depending on needs.@@darrylturpin37
Nice but the bass woofers in either one are not gonna blow anything away. They both are very good but the only things that make the new one supposedly “drastically different” isn’t worth me getting rid of my legacies. I did A/B them and ended up even getting another 2 sets of legacies for dirt cheap from a couple of new fan boys that automatically jump on something new and sold me their sets just to buy 1 new one 😂
Smart move! New is not always better. I don't think many are trading in their 1957 Les Paul for the 2023 model?
smart move..
I have both also
I'm pretty sure the gain on the mic pre amps on the Pro have been significantly upped
My e965 ( wireless dongle with phantom power and the +10db mic attenuator) is unusable with Pro with the - 10db off
Its only usable with the Pro with the - 10db on
Whereas with the mk1 it would only give enough gain with the - 10db attenuator off
Thanks, good to know! That was a big weakness of the original .
@@WWeiss-nv5vz
Yes I saw a few complaints about the lack of mic gain on the MK1
Just so I understand, are you saying the S1 Pro Plus has better mic gain than the S1Pro? @@SteveSingerFowkes
From all the speakers you own and have heard what do you in your opinion think is the best sounding pa speaker excluding arrays for playing music from a phone without a mixer ?
QSC K8.2, but still NEEDS a subwoofer! K8.2 doesn't have Bluetooth but has 1/8" jack to hardwire to phone. ruclips.net/video/nymc8nQLL5w/видео.html
I think I'm going to go with k8.2 I have couple of Mackie goes or go,s ? Lol and couple low end JBL 12 inch Irx but I'm getting urge to own more of a pro grade speaker I have Roland electronic drum set and a Yamaha acoustic set speakers are just for music in backyard or banging around in my drum room
Do a pair of S1 pro plus is sufficient for a gathering of 150-200. For addressing and little bit of music.
NO! rated for 50 people, maybe 75 people max.
@@WWeiss-nv5vzThanks.
The only huge difference is the price! but don't worry there will be a more improved model next year and this one will be last years news.lol. I for one don't need all the extra gizmo's especially having to use your phone. Lets see while making adjustment a text,phone call or app alert pops up...hmm shucks now where was I before that interruption?? I guess you could turn all those notifications off but who would go through the trouble of doing that every time you want to use those features. That's what mixers are for... I guess I'm just old school!
Nothing beats a hands on faders mixer for serious performance! For casual Bluetooth music listening I do prefer wireless App control at a distance.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yep I see your point!
The light might drain the battery 🪫 🤷🏾♂️
I believe specs for battery life is same for old and new model. Good try though, :)
The legacy sounds slightly better but not much difference at all.
Agree!
Thanks for great effort. the mids and highs are different... maybe a cheap capacitor in the EQ circuit changed what you hear in the Plus. Same drivers and enclosure, just tweaked amp board to price Plus it. Original pro is more than good enough.
I agree!
Vokalist here! There is a Hugh differece!
After further testing I agree!
This is more of a patient insanity test if you ask me 😫
Trying to sell it to the military for prisoner interrogation!
I really cannot understand how some say they hear no difference in these tests. To my ears there was a massive difference, not sounding the same at all. Which one is best? Well that is a matter of taste i guess.
You have excellent hearing, lucky!
I wouldn’t upgrade for the new model!👍🏻
I agree, wouldn't upgrade for sound, but the new features are a selling point for many.
2 bad you cant connect the old one with the new one cause they're all about money these days like most companies, sell outs.
Agree, throw out the old/ upgrade to the new! $$$$
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yeah no one in their right mind would do this because BOSE S1 PRO is a one of a kind speaker, you won't find second hand under $500. I have had old one for 5 years works as day 1 still lasts 10 hours of charge, excellent for acoustics, instruments and music. I use mine as a car speaker it still pumps!
GOOD
One important factor, you would think both speakers would pair but they don't. That was a poor marketing stunt. I will never buy another Bose product unless this changes. I mean i understand not being able to pair with a different brand but it's literally the same speaker! Why would Bose do that? I'm mad as I had an event and went with the Pro Plus not even second guessing whether or not they would pair. I bought it as it was the only one that was overnight delivery and then I get hit with a wall. Thanks Bose.
Bad news! But remember the original S1Pro is over 5 years old. At that time there was no App. Progress marches on.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz It's a simple technology. 10 years ago, we have Bluetooth headphones. No problem there. This is a marketing stunt and only a marketing stunt. Has nothing to do with the lack of technology.
Hi I’m from Bose. Sorry about your inconvenience. We would be glad to send you a free Pro so you can pair with your new speaker. Just kidding. Cute story though.
You are completely right if only I knew I use one and the other is backup
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Negatives from real world testing: The LCD screen on the Plus model is almost impossible to see in bright sunlight! In a live gig outdoors, the old school dials of the S1Pro are far superior! Also on the Plus model it will not stay back in the tilt back position on carpet - only on hard floors. S1 Pro doesn't have this issue.