Mirrorstone 300w infrared mirror panel install
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2023
- Short video discussing this Mirrorstone 300w infrared mirror panel installed in our spare room
If you haven't tried infrared yet you need to . perfect for space heating but even better if pointed at you directly in an office for example . It's a lovely sense of warmth like standing in sunlight .
No floor space lost, environmentally friendly using renewable electricity and cheap rate energy but it's a perfect mirror too.
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I've been using IR panels for 2 winters, whilst I waited for the heat pump picture to become clearer (Fujitsu air to air single split floor console due to be installed next week!).
1) metal panels heat up faster than glass ones. A 1kw metal panel heats my 3.5m x 3.5m bedroom quickly at bed time.
2) 2 x 450w glass panels do a good job in a 2.4m x 3.1m sitting room. They are at right angles to each other, one low under the window, one higher on an adjoining wall - placement is important.
3) An 800w bar-type IR heater does a good job in the small kitchen.
4) Controls are important. Smart sockets, smart thermostats, microwave (not PIR) motion sensors etc, so that when, where and how much heat is generated can be closely controlled. If uncontrolled, running costs can skyrocket.
We've been using these for whole house heating. I've done a few videos discussing our experience last winter - roughly half the energy usage when compared to our previous gas boiler (recent(ish) combi, supposedly 90% efficient).
Is that half the energy, or half the running cost? I have IR heaters in my conservatory and considering it thoughout the house. Just wondeing if it could be cost effective.
Without a doubt they work but will never beat heat pump based systems. Great addition though
@@EVPuzzle Yes, A2A would have definitely had lower energy/running costs. Our motivation ensuring no single point of failure and a silent system (my wife has ASD and finds herself tuning into white/repetitive noises).
@@DeEpThOrT Half the energy consumption. We averaged about 20p/unit of electricity last year for electricity (small home storage battery and off peak tariff) - so with the significantly lower energy usage we probably had parity with gas heating, though we also saved on standing charge. I suspect we'll manage much nearer to 10p this winter given we've increased the battery size and prices have dropped a bit.
Very cool! None of ours are mirrors, because at the time they were so much more expensive. They are a great solution for bedrooms!
Interesting idea combining a mirror and heater instead of taking up floor space. For a spare room which is only used occasionally, maybe a 300w mirror and an immersion heater in the radiator might be adequate rather than spending more on a 600w IR heater. For the long term, a custom picture IR heater does sound attractive if you intend to remove the oil burner and radiators. ☮️
In my flat in an old house with no insulation, high ceilings, loads of windows and no gas connection I changed from electric convection heaters to infrared panels. It’s a very difficult and expensive property to heat.
In my large open plan living room I have 2 x 800w panels on the ceiling wired to a smart room thermostat. They replaced 2 x 2kW convection heaters. In the bedroom there’s one 800 kW thermostatic smart panel on a wall replacing a 2kW convection heater. Bathroom has an 800w with a towel rail.
The flat is first floor with all but one wall being external. External walls face all directions N, S, E, and W. The one wall that’s internal to the building is 3m of bedroom wall with the communal hall the other side. The bedroom and bathroom get no sun in the winter. The living room has a large eastern facing bay and another large window facing south.
I agree the IR panel heat is much more pleasant. It’s sort of like you don’t notice the heating. With electric convector heaters the hot air all went up to the high ceilings. Sitting on the sofa could feel cold until I stood up and hit a blanket of heat higher up. In an old building IR cuts down condensation on cold walls so those corners where mould appears every winter no longer have mould.
The IR heating uses about 20% less electricity than the convection heaters. The comfort level is exceptionally better. Well worth installing.
I am considering an air to air heat pump but being a flat there’s going to be a long battle with the building freeholder to put a unit outside.
Interesting, as I'm considering a similar option for our guest rooms.
I've probably mentioned this before, but we've got a similar setup to you, with a 6kW a/c downstairs (open plan) a 2 kW a/c in the master bedroom and a 3.5 kW a/c in the loft/home office.
The (large) bathroom has 1 kW underfloor heating, but towels tend to stay a bit damp in the winter.
I installed a 600W infra-red panel / towel rack, and it works great, just switched on for a couple of hours every morning and again every evening.
It dries the towels nicely and boosts the bathroom temperature by about 0.5 C, helping the underfloor heating, which is on at the same time.
The panel cost 250 Euro and cosumes less than 1 kWh per day.
I'm pretty pleased with it, on the whole.
Towels were my issue too after testing electric heating. Immersions in the towel rail radiators in all bathrooms solved that instantly ...although watch for humidity with drying towels. We air outside on a line whenever there's sunshine and dehumidify too
We've got the driest bathroom I've ever known. The mirrors never really steam up, for instance.
The forced air heating system helps with that.
The thermostat is turned down to 16C, so the gas is effectively off, but we still have the ventilation on, circulating fresh air through the house.
The air comes in via a heat exchanger, by the way.
@@FoxInClogs that's a good system , I'd love similar here tbh as I hate condensation and the routines needed to avoid it
Interesting I didn’t know this existed. I did stay at a hotel room with heated floors in the bathroom and it was wonderful sounds it might be a similar effect.
I have a heated floor in my bathroom and it’s an electric mat/mesh of coated wires under the laminate with a controller / clock / thermostat on the wall outside the bathroom. It’s lovely to stand on on cold mornings and as well as heating the floor the heat radiates to heat the rest of the bathroom - one small problem ………….. the bathroom fitters electrician left a hole/ patch with no mesh just where my right foot goes at the wash hand basin! Highly recommend adding a heated floor if you are revamping your bathroom!
I have one of those fake fireplace heaters on the wall in my bathroom. It has a forced air heater. I've often thought it would be much better if it had an IR heater.
Interesting.. waiting for heat graphs. 😊
Blooming sonoff thermostat went offline last night otherwise it wouldve shown a nice increase from 16 to 17.5c on a night just 6c outside
HI NIgel, only thing with infra red heating they heat objects rather than the air, so it still feels cold when moving. we had them in the office and it was always felt cold. so we put back in the new quantum storage heaters by dimplex, the office now feels warm and more comfortable.
I'm not noticing that at all, the air warms by touching the objects . Placement and room size perhaps
@@EVPuzzle probably, but we had 8kw of them around the office in the ceiling grid, and was still cold.
If you had another round mirror heater the same (300w) directly oppersite, would it reflect sunlight heat and warm people better and reflect more heat that the total 600w?
nice, but when they don't have prices listed on site and easy to find it makes me think :)
I've added another link to where prices are more easily found . Surya heating
Thanks@@EVPuzzle personally they still seam expensive compared to the oil filled rads... but perhaps its worth it ? I do like that you can have more low powered rads so can turn them on gradually... but I think they could be cheaper ? Are they just on/off some seem like they have a remote, is that worth it. I'm guessing you just use smart plugs with w monitor to control/monitor them :)
@@ndudman8 mines just on off but others have remote controls and temp sensors .
These do seem more expensive than the one I put in my cloakroom but I'd use one over my portable oil filled every day , portable oil filled aren't intended for regular use even though they work
I'm rather using mine when there is 2 much solar and its cold :) otherwise its wood here.@@EVPuzzle
I thought these heated the objects in the room not the air , presumably there are different types then .
I have seen a bathroom radiator with an immersion heater instead of a central heating connection. When you mention the option of an immersion heater in the radiator, do you mean disconnecting it from the central heating or is it possible to add an immersion heater while still leaving the radiator connected to the central heating? 🤔
I've disconnected from the boiler but you can add alongside but the heat will dissipate beyond the radiator
There seems to be a lot of companies making these... Anywhere good to compare them? I need one for a 25m2 detached garage, any ideas?
I'm only aware of the two brands I've tried. Chris Hill on twitter has installed many more than myself , might be worth asking on there too. John Tisbury installed a heater in his garage recently too. Think he did a video🤔
Hi dad! Not looked too far into it but have you heard of thermaskirt for the radiator replacement? Basically same as radiator from what I gather but runs along skirting board so it's invisible and clears up the wall space of a radiator
Hi Mad, nope that's a new one for me . If I replace any more radiators it'll be with something innovative and multi purpose . Radiators are ugly space taking things I'm happy to leave behind .
Hope this gives you some good ideas for your next place x
@EVPuzzle absolutely! Looking forward to doing something like this in my future owned home! Thermaskirt would be if you wanted the same style of heating (radiated heat) but without eyesore radiator but I suppose you'd possibly prefer abandoning that altogether
@@madplaysgames5430 water in pipes = leak potential and central boiler of some kind. I prefer non centralised systems . The option of a really thick pipe as a radiator appeals, Industrial old style but I'm happy with our air con heating , never been so warm for so little cost
Astechtherm for me all the way. Whole house covered. No radiators no gas boiler all electric house. Solar & batteries. Ultra cheap to run
Hi nigel , is it on a smart plug ? Why don’t you add a thermostat to control it’s and to let it do it’s own thing, because after it heats the furnishing in the room it then secondary heats the air , this is the way I use my infra red heating system in my home and it becomes very efficient Nox the air reaches temp ( first initial heat up can take a while ) and I bet when you reach that air temp with the 300 watt heater you won’t need a second heater , maybe a experiment Chris
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$999. ?? ~ I’ll be Dammed.... how the Hell can they charge Sooo much for a Dam Mirror ?