If you're wondering why the death animation looks off, it's because I was using a retry fights mod. This mod adds the ability to retry boss fights, just as you can in more modern Kingdom Hearts games. It just removed the pointless time spent walking back to the door, otherwise it also allowed me to retry Data Final Xemnas without refighting Data Xemnas. As far as "cheese" is concerned, everyone will have their own definition of this. I feel that I played with the most reasonable rules, it's very arbitrary in the end though. I hope you enjoyed the video regardless
@@kennybui1157 donald is programmed to heal you and throw an item every single time you are at low health. the issue is they get deleted as soon as they revive never allowing them to get a chance to heal
Death count for each of the Org members. Larxene: 23 Luxord: 0 Axel: 13 (RC cheese banned) Zexion: 8 Vexen: 6 Xigbar: 16 Xaldin: 5 (he forgot to count the death at 26:55) Lexaeus: 27 Saix: 4 (retaliation cheese banned) Demyx: 3 Marluxia: 1 Roxas: 4 Xemnas 1: 1 Final Xemnas: 13 (fitting death count lmao) Luxord was deathless, while Marluxia and Xemnas 1 was only a single death. The only time you will ever see Lexaeus be the hardest org member, let alone have this kill count.
thanks for this post, that way i can get a bigger laugh from "lexaeus might not be too hard actually" before he gets the highest killcount of all of them.
Watching Ninten's vids like this with my Level 1/speedrun knowledge just fills me with absolute glee. Had a huge smile on my face with every trick and mistake made. Truly love KH2 it makes me so happy to see it pushed to it's limits. Thank you for being one of the pillars that keeps these games in our hearts.
Entering Final Form lowers the Anti Form count, and if you enter a data fight with the drive on it will give you back the full bar, I always spam it to have the probability as low as possible
I've been a kingdom hearts fan since it first started. And I try to speed run and you make it easier on my end, and I appreciate it, and the content. You are an amazing person keep it up ninten much love❤
The anti form actually came clutch against demyx. Don’t know if you had enough time to pull off another duck flare and still get them all. Crazy that each hit was able to destroy them and the aoe was good enough to get them all that fast. One actually useful instance of anti
I can't believe Ninten uploaded a video no damaging the entire org and even further RESTRICTING himself of using cheese strats and having no MP.... What a CHAD
Hey, I have a Rando question that suddenly popped up when watching one of your vods. What happens if you go through the portal in TWTNW that leads to Twilight Town 3 before ever going to TT? Does it let you explore the mansion? Or does it just yeet you into TT1?
It still is really good in KH2 since it’s basically a free magnet/projectile reflect. Only problem is that he push some bosses away when you’re going for a specific strat, but as is, it’s a very good move
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 it shouldn’t. Tornado in KH2 costs Goofy 10 MP to use. He should get 10 to 12 uses before going into recharge unless if he has other combat abilities equipped, but you really shouldn’t since they’re not good.
I love how hes getting mixed up by Axel. Like ive played this game since 2005 as a child and the game still surprises me as well. Idk if they just nailed the AI in this game but its so good
Shoulda used stitch and used his ability to deflect certain attacks and refill your mp. Plus he's just a feature so not technically a cheese strat. Tho he's the only reason I got the plat trophy for kh2
I appreciate that you try really difficult challenges but even with this crazy amount of restrictions there is still the one thing that happens what I think makes it way to easy. So I dare you to actually beat the Org without Loop/Cheese strategy, Summons, Limits and Drives because all of this breaks the bosses so much that it is pretty simple. You don't have to go 1 Mp there so spam reflec if you want it will be hard enough if you have no "Super Damage Invincibility Attack"
@@TimothyGodI literally beat them Level 1 this way. And it is possible to no hit them so just saying it is impossible without the power limit is just wrong.
@@TimothyGodYou said "it makes them possible" this means without it is not possible. Not possible is the same as impossible. Correct me if this assumption is wrong.
Show of perseverence and skill aside, does anyone else feel like forcing the full MP meter as it would be normally to recharge when you run out is badly designed for the sake of artificial difficulty? In what world does it make sense to have 1 of a resource only to magically gain more of it ONLY when it's at a disadvantage for you? Yes obviously Ethers and Elixirs exist so it's a non-issue technically, but the way it is here just doesn't make logical sense to me
If you're wondering why the death animation looks off, it's because I was using a retry fights mod. This mod adds the ability to retry boss fights, just as you can in more modern Kingdom Hearts games. It just removed the pointless time spent walking back to the door, otherwise it also allowed me to retry Data Final Xemnas without refighting Data Xemnas. As far as "cheese" is concerned, everyone will have their own definition of this. I feel that I played with the most reasonable rules, it's very arbitrary in the end though. I hope you enjoyed the video regardless
Shoutout to future Kingdom Hearts games for adding the retry option!
I mean it's a "for fun" stuff you don't have to respond to any rules and feel doubtful about anything regarding that
If anything I am more jealous you get to retry Final Xemnas without having to fight the same old boring Xemnas fight over and over again. >0
@Ninten with that challenge, you are almost a Shedinja (but Shedinja can use his powers more than once without reloading)
15 seconds into the video and I’m already laughing so hard at “what are they(Donald and Goofy) gonna do? Help me?”
I’d say Donald’s duck flare did help… no?
@@EmoJoshSavesTheWorldyeah but they just die and stay dead for 99% of the fight.
Sora: Donald! Heal me!
Donald: THUNDAGA!!!
@@kennybui1157 donald is programmed to heal you and throw an item every single time you are at low health. the issue is they get deleted as soon as they revive never allowing them to get a chance to heal
@@alexandremontesinos7876 I'm disappointed...you don't get it
Death count for each of the Org members.
Larxene: 23
Luxord: 0
Axel: 13 (RC cheese banned)
Zexion: 8
Vexen: 6
Xigbar: 16
Xaldin: 5 (he forgot to count the death at 26:55)
Lexaeus: 27
Saix: 4 (retaliation cheese banned)
Demyx: 3
Marluxia: 1
Roxas: 4
Xemnas 1: 1
Final Xemnas: 13 (fitting death count lmao)
Luxord was deathless, while Marluxia and Xemnas 1 was only a single death.
The only time you will ever see Lexaeus be the hardest org member, let alone have this kill count.
Turns out that the chip damage Lexaeus does at the start is dangerous when you got 1 HP
thanks for this post, that way i can get a bigger laugh from "lexaeus might not be too hard actually" before he gets the highest killcount of all of them.
The 1 HP mod is essentially a buff against Axel, since it removes that awful low hp alert.
Watching Ninten's vids like this with my Level 1/speedrun knowledge just fills me with absolute glee. Had a huge smile on my face with every trick and mistake made. Truly love KH2 it makes me so happy to see it pushed to it's limits. Thank you for being one of the pillars that keeps these games in our hearts.
Axel fight with 1 hp is actually a quality of life change, that beeping is so annoying
This may be the first video showing Axel’s complete moveset, so many things he does you never see kuz he so loopable
That vexen end is WILDDDDDDDDDDD! Seeing how far you can push the combat in KH2 never gets old
1 MP is the true hell
Only one reflect 😭
I once heard someone say that Axel is the closest thing to a turn based fight you'll find, especially in the data fights
Demyx fight was INSANE
Especially for Xaldin, but each time Ninten says hes dead, i just picturing the boss;
"That can be arranged, NOW HOLD STILL!!!"
Thanks Ninten!
Enjoyed every minute of it.
KH2FM is just special… it really is…
No cheese, proceeds to use duck flare invincibility for every fight
Entering Final Form lowers the Anti Form count, and if you enter a data fight with the drive on it will give you back the full bar, I always spam it to have the probability as low as possible
I've been a kingdom hearts fan since it first started. And I try to speed run and you make it easier on my end, and I appreciate it, and the content. You are an amazing person keep it up ninten much love❤
The anti form actually came clutch against demyx. Don’t know if you had enough time to pull off another duck flare and still get them all. Crazy that each hit was able to destroy them and the aoe was good enough to get them all that fast. One actually useful instance of anti
Very good edits, really enjoyable video. You are a genius at the game
Sora canon magical power and body resistance of an around 16 yo boy
I can't believe Ninten uploaded a video no damaging the entire org and even further RESTRICTING himself of using cheese strats and having no MP.... What a CHAD
3:40 so much aura
Hey, I have a Rando question that suddenly popped up when watching one of your vods.
What happens if you go through the portal in TWTNW that leads to Twilight Town 3 before ever going to TT? Does it let you explore the mansion? Or does it just yeet you into TT1?
Is it just me or is the audio occasionally going really quiet for no reason?
Thank you Ninten, Very cool #40
NAH THE ANTI CLUTCH WAS CRAZY
This. Is the true challenge. I may be late, but this is still gold after all this time
Goofy tornado needs to go back to kh1 version. That move was so good
It still is really good in KH2 since it’s basically a free magnet/projectile reflect. Only problem is that he push some bosses away when you’re going for a specific strat, but as is, it’s a very good move
@@catsorafgcthat and it burns nearly all his mp pool.
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 it shouldn’t. Tornado in KH2 costs Goofy 10 MP to use. He should get 10 to 12 uses before going into recharge unless if he has other combat abilities equipped, but you really shouldn’t since they’re not good.
Zexion's DM loop makes me so mad
I love how hes getting mixed up by Axel. Like ive played this game since 2005 as a child and the game still surprises me as well. Idk if they just nailed the AI in this game but its so good
that PFP bro wtf
I have a serious question, how do the controlls on Luxords games even worK? I just never understood it lol
that demyx tho holy shit LOL
Anti Form definitely a canon event Lmaoooo
The reason the bosses might be fighting weird is most likely the mod
I don't know what I'd do without relying on reflect all the time, crazy good stuff here
I can understand 1 hp but one mp.... bro even I can't do shit without mah magic lol wp
Ninten became the merg of kingdom hearts
...ok real question what the hell do about the "can you spare a heart"
You can dodge it with reflect definitely. Maybe with a well timed quick run too. The first one would only work once like this though.
You make me happy when I feel sad
KH2 Data org if you were forced to win w/o taking any damage basically.
No, you have 1 mp, level 1, and are much more limited. Not taking damage is easy if you have more mp and can cheese
Bro marluxia and axel were the worst for me when I played this 😩
This Was Nice! :)
Shoulda used stitch and used his ability to deflect certain attacks and refill your mp. Plus he's just a feature so not technically a cheese strat. Tho he's the only reason I got the plat trophy for kh2
You are so insane at this
I think a real challenge would be no duck flare lmao
So basically impossible
Goofy carried the end on vexen bc he kept anti sora locked with tornado
What a goof
Anytime Ninten uploads makes the day 10x better! You’re really entertaining 😂
You’re a legend.
It’s Gojover in Zexion Fight lmaooo
Get baaaack
Ninten: “I’m not allowed to cheese the fights”
Also Ninten after about 20 deaths to Larxene: “I think I can loop this” (proceeds to cheese the fight)
im sorry i missed the stream😭😭
I wish I was this good
This is just a No hit w/ no magic challenge honestly, I don't see what's so difficult about this? :)
Gofy solling anti sora on vexen final faze
I appreciate that you try really difficult challenges but even with this crazy amount of restrictions there is still the one thing that happens what I think makes it way to easy. So I dare you to actually beat the Org without Loop/Cheese strategy, Summons, Limits and Drives because all of this breaks the bosses so much that it is pretty simple. You don't have to go 1 Mp there so spam reflec if you want it will be hard enough if you have no "Super Damage Invincibility Attack"
No, its what makes them possible for the level and challenge
@@TimothyGodI literally beat them Level 1 this way. And it is possible to no hit them so just saying it is impossible without the power limit is just wrong.
@@OzomaLp show me where i said "impossible"?
@@TimothyGodYou said "it makes them possible" this means without it is not possible. Not possible is the same as impossible. Correct me if this assumption is wrong.
Not possible is not possible. There probable, not probable, possible, impossible, not possible, etc@@OzomaLp
Vexen 🧀🧀
Show of perseverence and skill aside, does anyone else feel like forcing the full MP meter as it would be normally to recharge when you run out is badly designed for the sake of artificial difficulty? In what world does it make sense to have 1 of a resource only to magically gain more of it ONLY when it's at a disadvantage for you?
Yes obviously Ethers and Elixirs exist so it's a non-issue technically, but the way it is here just doesn't make logical sense to me
*Lenny voice* Now do Lingering Will!
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