Insights From an L7 Meta Manager: Interviews, Onboarding, and Building Trust
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Camera mogged on my own channel. Unreal. Fortunately I'm better at systems design than these guys or else Stefan's old team at facebook might flag me down. For legal reasons that's a joke.
Thanks to Stefan for coming on the channel! Check out his:
LinkedIn: / stefanmai
Hello Interview: www.hellointerview.com/ - Наука
Two interviewing🐐's. Wouldn't have gotten a Meta offer without either of y'all!
Congrats, let's go!!! Me more obviously but nice job Stefan or whatever
Awesome vid. Stefan is legit. Love the system design stuff but this content is super valuable too! More please Jordan!
It's been one of the most meaningful talks I have watched this year sofar! thank you
Hello Interview was easily the best $200 I've ever spent.
This guy hasn't been to Amsterdam
Thanks for the interview! Excellent material as usual!
you guys look like you’d introduce yourselves as “fire and ice” and compete for zendayas heart
Lol well done you got a chuckle out of me
All of this is accurate except I'm more of a sydney sweeney guy
Thanks SO much, Jordan!
Great one with great info. I feel the lines at higher levels get so subjective, that a particular mindset can do wonders in some team while being disastrous in others. Totally depends on the team culture. For eg : A senior person doing these social stunts will never be accepted in some teams where you can’t wow everyone with your tech skills so much so that people wish they learn a lot and step up to your level. While doing the social skills thing can give you an image as someone who knows nothing but just keeps doing show off.
I do think having social skills just about always helps, but sure if you can't code at all I'd anticipate that going poorly for you.
Good interview! Would be nice if you face the camera when asking questions
Huge fan of hellointerview! I clicked on this video because I thought I recognized Stefan's face! Hi Stefan!!
Finally this guy draws in viewers, it's taken long enough Stefan!
Hi Trisha!
For more senior level interviews it should just be talking through your resume and getting more details on your experience. You as a company are trying to hire this person because they have conveyed in their resume they have the skillset to take on the challenge you are facing in your company. Asking the potential candidate to come up with some novel approach to a problem they weren't even prepared to be asked on the fly is an awful interview approach.
To be fair, they do. But anyone can lie, and I suppose that's why you still get leetcode and systems design thrown in there at senior levels.
This was perfect timing!
stefan the goat. jordy get ur commits up
DDDCN
2 legends ❤ 🎉
Brutal Mog
Absolutely mogged me, I need to work on my canthal tilt
Time and again I hear "put yourself in the shoes of your manager". This is poor advice with even worse consequences. You can't do that in a psychologically safe manner. If you do put yourself in your manager's shoes, you eventually create a persona and expectation of how to approach the activity/responsibility from "your experience" and not your manager's. This is critical because if the manager approach deviates from your expectations that were created by your act of thinking on behalf of your manager, those expectations are going down the drain majority of the time. And you eventually lead to disconnecting with your manager, for no fault of theirs. So, lesson learned: don't put yourself in your manager's shoes. Ask them instead. Frame better questions to get good answers.
My two cents:
Completely agree with you in the first year or two, but beyond that I'd think that if you're not starting to see things the way your manager does you may not be growing the way that you hope. Of course, having a good flow of communication is always useful. I think Stefan touches upon this too, so I'm gonna choose to agree with him here
@@jordanhasnolife5163 When the avg employment duration is 2-3 years at FAANG, it's unlikely that by the time you get to "know" or believe you know your manager's thought and execution process, you'd be changing teams or companies.
I agree, communication is key at all levels. But I advocate against acting on behalf of the manager and even experienced ICs make the mistake of assumption. Tech is plagued with people who think they know better at all levels (touche).😂
By all means, ask questions. You don’t need to read their mind. But staff+ engineers definitely have a solid mental model of people around them which allows them to navigate in an organization.
You don’t need to *become* your manager, you just need to be able to understand their perspective so you can be effective - no different than you need to understand the perspective of the product manager or designer.
@@stefanmai9879 Thank you. I appreciate you taking time to respond. I feel there is a stark difference in eastern vs western management style. Western focuses on more subjective performance measuring thereby allowing expectations to be always vague and the goal post flying with the wind. Whereas eastern management style over the years has been methodically and measurable. Both have their benefits and flaws. But in times of distress, western style always falls back to eastern even branding it as "efficiency".
How to become an IC, when does one become an IC. Seriously speaking, is it like, You don't happen to become an IC, IC has to find you? Does it depend on like if you take lead from design to implementation, to collaborating with devops and QAs vs you are always working in team
It's all personal preference. If you feel that you have a propensity towards either role you can express this, even if your own manager feels otherwise
@@jordanhasnolife5163 ow.
Recently screwed up behavioural interviews with Amazon . To be fair I don't consider myself a leader , I just wonder if all SDEs at Amazon are at that level of leadership they're assessing new hires ..
Did you study their leadership principles? Just answer according to the principles they want 🤷♂️ most companies will have more or less the same principals as well
Agree here, I think figuring out easy answers in advance to the star questions is pretty useful, I feel like a lot of people I talk to about interviewing really discount how important the behavioral is
Maybe start there, the cultural fit. Like someone mentioned studying those leadership principles helps a ton, but more than that if you do get in be prepared to be a leader at any point. With that most likely referring to being a leader in what you own and control, not necessarily being a manager or such.
Okay jordan has no life, subscribed! Lol
I disagree with modt of this and I've been in engineering for 30 years. These types of interviews that emphasize soft skills put the wrong type of people in leadership.
Take that Stefan!
But actually, you say you disagree with "most" of this, but only retort Stefan's last question about social skills in interviews. I don't think Stefan was saying this to mean that high up people at companies only have social skills and technical skills, I think it's moreso that having immense technical skills alone will get you nowhere. Being able to succeed at a high level is the ability to scale onesself and you can't do this without communication.
Is Meta cutthroat
Considering they have fast promotion cycles and there's a lot of money on the line, I'd bet on it
yes. Do not expect a whole lot of civil collaboration. People will do anything to get ahead of the curve due to stack ranking.
This is above my iq, but solid video 😂
I believe in you, it's just English
Bro what is your IQ ?
@@ronmiller3741 teehee
It shall not be discussed 😂
Waste of time
I'll let him know
This guy look and speak super weird
Insult 10/10, grammar 10/10