Don Harold told me about an instance, in the 1960s, when there was a severe delay on the Astoria Line in the rush hour. At least one number 7 train was commanded to re-route to Astoria with the conductor given instructions to use the PA system to warn passengers of the gap between the train and the platforms. The R12s and 14s had no PA until after the 1980s Clark St Tunnel fire incident, so this must have happened after 1964.
It would have been difficult to return the train to the Flushing line since the only crossover is on the uptown side of the station. The crossover on the downtown side was removed after 1942.
One of those signs on the Astoria line was incorrect. It mentioned Queens Plaza as a transfer point. The transfer point was actually Queensboro Plaza. Queens Plaza is the IND station across the plaza and is completely underground. BMT trains also serve it through a connecting tunnel opened in 1955.
I'm sorry for the late response. You are correct that the BMT/IRT station was Queensboro Plaza. The rollsigns on the BMT Standards as well as the tin signs on the gate cars all read Queens Plaza, however. I guess this was because of space limitations. The IND Queens Plaza station didn't open until the 1930s so there really wasn't much confusion before then. Also people boarding a BMT train knew which QP they meant. Prior to 1940 the IND wasn't even mentioned or shown on BMT maps.
I remember the RR, rode it everyday as a kid.
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Don Harold told me about an instance, in the 1960s, when there was a severe delay on the Astoria Line in the rush hour. At least one number 7 train was commanded to re-route to Astoria with the conductor given instructions to use the PA system to warn passengers of the gap between the train and the platforms. The R12s and 14s had no PA until after the 1980s Clark St Tunnel fire incident, so this must have happened after 1964.
It would have been difficult to return the train to the Flushing line since the only crossover is on the uptown side of the station. The crossover on the downtown side was removed after 1942.
Nice video. Thanks for doing the research and sharing the schematics, photos, and newspaper clippings.
A great video! I grew up in NYC but missed the full Queensboro Plaza layout! Thanks for this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another nice show about my first favorite place which is the subway. Your history is very informative.
Awesome, thank you!
@@BMTLines You are welcome.
One of those signs on the Astoria line was incorrect. It mentioned Queens Plaza as a transfer point. The transfer point was actually Queensboro Plaza. Queens Plaza is the IND station across the plaza and is completely underground. BMT trains also serve it through a connecting tunnel opened in 1955.
I'm sorry for the late response. You are correct that the BMT/IRT station was Queensboro Plaza. The rollsigns on the BMT Standards as well as the tin signs on the gate cars all read Queens Plaza, however. I guess this was because of space limitations. The IND Queens Plaza station didn't open until the 1930s so there really wasn't much confusion before then. Also people boarding a BMT train knew which QP they meant. Prior to 1940 the IND wasn't even mentioned or shown on BMT maps.
Thank you for making great videos. Some of them have taught me NYC Subway stuff I never knew before even though I've been studying them for 50+ years!
I truly enjoyed watching this i am such a Second Avenue & Third Avenue EL fan Queens line as i ride it at Queensboro plaza Love the two divisions! 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
“You can get a free transfer if u ride a bmt train to ditmars Blvd and change for an IRT train to flushing.”